CNET Live: November 15, 2007Cranky geek John C. Dvorak is the guest with hosts Molly Wood and Donald Bell.
^M00:00:04 [ Music ] ^M00:00:09 >> Coming up on CNET Live, the secret pain of John C. Dvorak. He's really here. >> Plus I'm in love with the new Zooms, stay tuned to find out why. >> And a high-tech cure for stinky shoes. All that and more coming up on CNET Live. ^M00:00:23 [ Music ] ^M00:00:27 >> Welcome to CNET Live, I'm Molly Wood and you are not Tom Merit. >> I am not Tom Merit. >> You are also not Brian Cooley. >> Not Cooley. >> We are continuing the rotating cast of CNET Live hosts today. Tom Merit is unfortunately out, super-sick, and Brian Cooley is either in the back room having lunch or on vacation or actually covering the LA auto show. So Donald Bell, our senior editor for digital music and MP3s was kind enough to fill in today. >> It's a pleasure to be here. >> Thanks for coming. Absolutely. We will be taking your calls, as per usual -- and of course when you call -- >> You'll be talking to Cheryl. >> Where is Cheryl? Is she back there? >> There's Cheryl. >> Hello. You really will be talking to Cheryl. There she is. But before we get to your calls it's time for things we crave. >> Things we crave. >> The things we crave come to us thanks to fellow editors at cnet.com, of which Donald Bell is in fact one. He did not, however, post about the very important electric foot stink busters. >> Ah. >> Otherwise known as the eco-shoes dryer. This is what I am craving today because -- >> Why? >> Well, for my husband, ah ha, yes. The eco-shoes dryer is apparently little portable dryers. They go inside your shoes. They cost 27 each -- $27 each -- which I think is a little much. >> Someone buy just one? >> I don't -- well, maybe you have just one stinky foot. [ Laughter ] >> Yeah, this is surprising. I was expecting this to be like a little tiny, like a dryer, like, machine, that you shoved them into. Not so much. >> Well, of course it comes to us from Japan, worth noting, because they do not mess around when it comes to cleanliness. >> I bet this is like, radiation, in the foot here. Actually using nuclear power to radiate your stink. >> See, come on, I think it's just a dryer. Because you know the root of all stink is moisture. >> That's good to know. I'm going drop that at my next party. >> The eco-shoes dryer. We think it's been $55 a pair. Try it out if you've got some foot problems. >> All right, well I've got my crave item, if we can switch over, is the 3 D x-ray version of a jet fighter helmet. This is a new fighter helmet that is scary as heck. >> Look at the green eyes. >> I know, it's -- if you -- [Inaudible] in a dark alley with this helmet I would seriously just run away crying. But it's pretty cool. It basically enables jet fighters to be able to look past the cockpit floor and be able to see 360 degrees around them so that they basically -- the cockpit itself is no barrier for them to be able to see where they're flying. >> So it's like a virtual head's up display? Like it short of shows -- gathers information from around the jet and then projects it on to there? >> Projects it on so they can see it. Yeah. And I'm hoping this is going trickle down into car technology. I want to be able to see underneath my car while I'm driving. >> See, now that sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Actually, multiple accidents, because everyone driving by would be looking at you -- as you are driving right off the road because you're busy looking at thumbtacks that are under there. Or something. >> It would be cool. >> I don't know. I don't know if I'm buying this. All right. Let's get to your calls here on CNET Live, because the lines are full. Let's start with Andrew, who I think has a call about the OL PC. Andrew, are you there? >> I am here. >> Hello, what's your question? >> I wanted to know if you either have a recommendation -- I was going ask Tom if you had a recommendation for a killer app for like the LINUX on the [Inaudible] PC. Because he's not here I was wondering if you knew how to possibly put Windows on, like, a 4 gig SD card and then maybe put that into the OL PC. >> Oh, I see. So you're wanting to run -- so you're saying just because our resident LINUX hippy isn't here today -- can't ask [Inaudible] -- >> Yeah, more or less. >> I appreciate that, actually. I'm very grateful for that. >> You're totally right. >> So you're not necessarily wanting to replace the LINUX operating system with XP, you're just wanting to run it remotely? >> Maybe like dual boot. >> Oh, maybe dual boot. Dual boot is going to be tough. I know that -- I mean, just primarily because of power. It seems like if you compare the minimum specs, the minimum requirements of XP to the specs of the OL PC you're cutting it pretty close. >> Yeah. It's not going to be too fast, though, to run XP. >> Yeah. It's going to be pretty slow to run it. I mean, you certainly I think could dual boot, right? Because you can find partitioning software for a LINUX [Inaudible] and then you could go that way. But you might be interested to know that Microsoft is actually not wanting to be shut out of that important developing market of children -- underprivileged children -- is working on porting Windows XP over to the OL PC. So they're actually working on creating a Windows version specifically for the OL PC. >> Get those underprivileged children frustrated with Windows XP, just like the rest of us. >> That's right. You want to make sure that a generation does not grow up only knowing LINUX. >> Without shaking their fists into the air cursing Bill Gates. >> I think the dual -- I think definitely the dual boot is an option. Let us know if you get it working. Thanks Andrew. All right. You can call us just like Andrew did at 800 -- 888-900-C-N-E-T. >> You got it. >> [Inaudible] with a phone number, and it's not the same one. 888-900-C-N-E-T -- that's 2638. Coming up, though, we'll have me and John C. Dvorak. >> But first I just spent the last week playing around with the new Microsoft Zooms. And I'm pretty impressed. Here's a first look at the new high capacity 80-gigabyte Zoom. [ Music ] >> Hey, I'm Donald Bell, senior editor for digital audio and MP3. And today we're taking a first look at the new Microsoft Zoom. This is an 80-gigabyte high-capacity Zoom that they've just come out with 6789 comes only in black -- at least for the movement -- and sells for around $249. Now the big improvements over the new Zoom over last year's Zoom is that the new one is thinner, has a wider screen, it's got a 3.2 inch screen now, and has a different control method, navigation panel on this, instead of just clicking up and down left and right, you can actually scroll by touching the touch pad. Other little things, the back is now aluminum. The operating system has been completely overhauled. There are still some things from last year's operating system, like the twist interface, things we liked about last year's operating system. But it looks a lot different. The main menu screen is really big, beautiful, you can customize the background photo. And on the main menu screen you now have a button for podcasts, and that's a big deal. Up until now there have never been any really good competitors to the iPod as far as tight integration for audio and video podcasts. The new Zoom does it very well. You can digest podcasts in small doses and resume playback where you last left off. You can even unsubscribe from podcasts directly from your player, and when you sync up your player again it will know that you wanted to unsubscribe from that podcast. That's a pretty cool feature. So video looks really great on this. The built-in Wi-Fi antenna on the Zoom still doesn't support, like, online Web browsing, things that the iPod Touch or the iPhone would do. But it is pretty cool. The Wi-Fi antenna on the latest version of the Zoom will let you do wireless syncing with your home library. You can setup your Zoom so that when you get home you can dock it, and it will know to look for your wireless home network and sync any podcast content, new downloads, sync it to your Zoom over the Wi-Fi network, and you don't have to connect this directly to your computer. So overall, we really liked the new 80-gigabyte Zoom. We know the Zoom name has been kicked around a lot, but this one really refines the ideas that were pretty good about the first one and makes them excellent. I am Donald Bell, and that was the first look at the 80-gigabyte Microsoft Zoom. ^M00:07:52 [ Music ] ^M00:07:54 >> All right, he's been cranky, cantankerous, even irascible. We're here with John C. Dvorak today, and what I want to know is aren't you really just hurting them before they hurt you? >> Yeah, that's the way -- good offense beats a good defense. Or good defense -- I don't know, one of the two. It depends on the super bowl game what defense you need. >> Okay. He also knows football, it turns. And actually, interesting factoid about John C. Dvorak, you are on CNET TV for a while. I think we even have a clip. >> Oh God. >> A look back. >> There I am. Had a bit of a haircut, that's for sure. >> You look good, though. Look at the suit. Good times. See now, I'm going say you look almost exactly the same. >> Well, except for this hair -- this hair is -- I've got to get a new haircut. So the funny -- I was watching one of those old clips. Some of the stuff I would do on that show I would -- one time I was watching myself after the show I would watch and say, I don't even remember doing this. But I think gene says to me how do you tell a good wine when the wine waiter brings it over? He says you grab the cork, you bite it off, you chew it up, and if the wine's no good you spit it in the wine waiter's face. And I'm watching myself say this, and it was quite funny by the way because I just ripped it off. >> So you thought, was I drunk when I said that, or what happened there. >> I was as sober as a judge. I don't know how I do these things. But anyway -- >> So John, you are host of the cranky geeks podcast and weekly live show. >> Right. >> Right? You also have dvorak.org/blog where your opinions can be found. And then your columns appear in multiple -- >> Well, I've also got another -- I've got the tech 5 podshow.com show, which is a daily 5-minute news review where I ranted about this thing yesterday too. >> Right. >> So that's a pod show. And I do some work -- I work with them and then I'm at marketwatch.com. I have a weekly column. And then bcmagazine.com. You can find my columns [Inaudible] on the magazine. And then I'm scattered around some other things. >> So you're, like, not that busy. >> I could find -- I need to clean my office. Let's face it. >> Well, all right, it would be a waste of time to have you here and not get you on a rant. So I understand you want to talk a little bit about some poor unfortunate Microsoft exec who made the mistake of speaking in public? >> Yeah, it's a blunder. There's a story that's in CNET news -- cnetnews.com, and it was probably run yesterday or the day before -- Tuesday, okay, November 13. You can look it up. Tom Esperner is the writer. Anyway, there's a -- the story is written apparently -- I guess this came out of the England. But there was a meeting in Britain and these two -- just read you a little bit of it. Demonstration took place Monday at an event called Get Safe Online a joint initiative of the UK government and industry. Anyway, they brought these two guys on from this series organized crime agency, which if it actually does exist -- they showed how you can break into an unsecured wireless network as though no one has ever done this. >> Heavens. >> There was no anti virus, no fire wall, no anti spy wear. These two guys who wouldn't say who they are -- these two guys Mick and Andy. >> Is that even a break in, or is that just like opening the door and walking in. >> All you have to do is -- they claimed that they used these secret tools that they couldn't say what the tools were, but you can do it with just the basic Vista by clicking on View Available Wireless Networks, find one that's unsecure and click on it, you're on. >> Right. >> But anyway, they made it like, oh it was a big deal. And then they go on about how amazing it was using some other tools, and then typing in a bunch of IP addresses they could figure out the IP address of the computer that they had cracked. >> Right. >> And I'm thinking all you do is go to Google and type in what's my IP address, because you're going to be on that network, and it tells you. >> See, that's actually a good tip, because I always just use the command line thing. But I didn't know you could just use Google. >> Oh, just use Google. There's about 40 sites that [Inaudible] tell you what your IP address. Click on any one, that's your IP address. So these guys are making -- and they won't say the software is, this mysterious software. Now wasn't bad enough that these two bone heads are trying to bamboozle these idiots, that there's a Microsoft executive there who claims that he was shocked and dismayed by this whole thing. He had no idea you can do this. >> So the worst part is that the idiots were in fact bamboozling. >> Ah -- >> So it was the Microsoft executive said I'm horrified by this obvious security breech? >> See if I can find -- yeah, something like that if I could find it. >> That's not good. >> You hear -- well, I'm not even going say his name. But he's the head of platform strategy for Microsoft UK was surprised by the incident. The demonstration we saw was both enlightening and frightening to witness the seeming ease of the attack on the Windows computer, said -- his name -- but the computer was new, not patched -- like that would make a difference -- unbelievable. >> Embarrassing. >> Well, this article should be more critical, I'm sorry about blocking your camera there. >> No, that's okay. >> Just do a lot of -- [ Multiple voices speaking ] >> And we'll talk to him next week about his article. And then you're also in the new this week, are Face Book's new social ads legal? >> You know, I have to -- >> This is an interesting story. >> Now this story -- now this is another one of your stories, but I like this one so I am going balance this one a little bit. >> Okay. >> But this article that ran again in the blog by Caroline McCarthy [assumed spelling] in November 15 -- and you know what, we've talked about this on cranky geeks, and I talked about this here and there. I never thought about this one part of the social, you know, these ads -- you're going buy something you recommend and I'm going get my name on it. Oh, John Dvorak bought this. I forget about this element, which is the fact that there's a celebrity law involved. Anybody who's partially known at all, you can't just use their name without their permission and paying them. >> Well, it's not even just celebrities, right? There was that New York law professor who said that it was anybody. You can't use someone's likeness and or endorsement without their permission, whether they're famous or not. >> Right, right. >> Yeah. And so they're trying to figure out if it's legal or not. And I think the law right now it's a privacy law in New York. And so the question is whether that law is going to apply across the board. >> The lawyer in here or one of them said that it looks like most of the states have similar laws. There's enough that -- because Face Book can't differentiate where that page is going anyway. So they're going to be violation some place or other. So this is not going to work. Period. >> Yeah. It sounds like -- which is too bad, because it's a pretty interesting ad platform. It seems like a pretty good way to leverage -- you know, I'm not saying I'm going buy all the things my friends are going to buy -- but it was clever. >> It was clever. Yeah. It was a clever way to [Inaudible] -- [ Multiple voices speaking ] >> Yeah. Well, they -- they're going to fight it a little bit, but it will be kaput. >> So this is just a -- a brief look at what you can expect from cranky geeks and the other publications you work on. Also, some recent predicts from you. The Google phone, no good. Vista, death watch. >> Right. >> Vista death watch? >> Well I put -- >> You switching to Mac now for good? >> No, I still use mostly Windows machines. But I have to say the new version of the Mac operating system with all the cute little niceties, some of those are actually extremely useful. The one I, you know, you discover them kind of, as you go along. You use the newest platform of Mac? >> I haven't tried it out yet. >> You use Leopard, right? >> Yeah. >> They only send us one machine. I've many -- [ Multiple voices speaking ] >> When you open up a folder they have little pictures, little icons, so like, it says a doc file, a little icon of a doc file, but it's not actually the icon of a doc file. It's actually the icon shrunk of your first page of that file, is a little bitty version of your document. So you can visually see -- and like, it has an HTML file, it will have the front page of the web site. So the computer has -- what they've done here which I think is being overlooked a little bit, is the computer has decided that it can't do all the work for you. You are a good pattern recognition machine, much better than a computer is. So let's throw these icons, accurate icons, up so I can now scan -- because I say, all these documents, I can't remember what I named this thing, was it one, two, three, four -- but I can actually see the little doc file. It's an icon, it's genius. >> Not just pretty, it turns out. All right, coming up next, download of the week, insider secret. Thanks again, John. >> Claus Umlaut, umpire at the '85 U.S. Open >> McEnroe. >> Wait, there's a chance that ball did hit the line. You're not evil. >> Are you handling disputes with a simple phone call? You a card member? >> So miss Jones, what seems to be the problem? >> The holidays are coming, and I'm having my annual meltdown over shopping. >> Ah yes, the nightmare before Christmas, Santaclausterphobia. >> Actually, we're Druids. >> Gifting anxiety does not discriminate. >> My family, my friends, they all love gadgets, but it's just so hard to keep up, and I'm afraid -- I'll make the wrong choice, and then they'll think I'm a loser. >> I'm sure is just has to do with some traumatic gifting event in your childhood. >> Nonsense, your condition is perfectly understandable, and the solution is simple. >> It is? >> It is. Just tune in to CNET's 10-hour holiday help desk marathon. >> It is? >> It is. Just tune into CNET's 10-hour holiday help desk marathon. Our staff of experts will take your questions and guide you to the right tech gifts. Wash the fear away with CNET's holiday help desk marathon, live, 8 to 6 Pacific Time, November 23, the day after Thanksgiving. >> We'll be giving away eight Wii mega bundles, valued at $600 each. E-mail your questions to holiday help at cnet.com, or call 888-900-CNET. ^M00:16:47 [ Music ] ^M00:16:48 >> Welcome back to CNET Live where we are taking your calls live at 888-900-CNET, 2638. I'm joined by Donald Bell, our MP3 and digital audio editor at cnet.com. We're going to get to your calls in just a minute, but first it's the download of the week. ^M00:17:05 [ Music ] ^M00:17:07 >> The download of the week comes to us from our friends at download.com. Today that download is Mirro [assumed spelling] -- [Inaudible] there we go, Mirro, which is the newest incarnation of the Democracy Player. Maybe you remember the Democracy Player which is sort of a great way to collect and gather -- give you feeds of all kinds of online video. They had a view major media partners. It was mainly for gathering together video podcasts and things like that. They have rereleased out of beta -- >> I know. I remember hearing about this when it was still in beta and was a little bit buggy. But having played around with Mirro a little bit at home, it is really well done. It's got a beautiful kind of full screen mode so that you can watch -- you can create your own channels, so if you like your technology, kind of video podcasts all in one place. >> I think we have a little video demo we can watch here. >> Yeah, you can browse through it, put it in full screen mode. And it's a great option for people who like taking their media experience on a laptop, or if they have a media center hooked up to their television set. >> So not even just necessarily for people who want to watch on your laptop. You said it's great -- it actually does some streaming? Oh, I have noises coming out. So, one thing to know about it is it's not a Holo [assumed spelling] or juice type experience. It doesn't have a ton of kind of network television capabilities -- >> No -- >> Built in or -- >> No, it's biggest claim to fame is that it's bringing all the great free stuff that's out there on the Internet and organizing it all into one place. >> Right. And you know, there's a lot of stuff. >> There's a lot of stuff out there. >> Turns out, on the Internet, to watch, right? Like us right here. All right. That is our download of the week, and now it is time to get to your calls on 888-900-CNET -- C-N-E-T. Who do we have on the line. All right, it looks like William is on the line with a question about converting video for the iPhone. William You there? >> Yes. >> Thanks for coming on. What's your question. >> Is there any way to convert video [Inaudible] on my computer to iPhone format for free? >> For free? Seems to be the rub. >> The first thing I would try to do is to drag it into iTunes. ITunes has a built in conversion process. It's kind of slow, but if your movie pops up into iTunes and plays in iTunes you should be able to convert it for the iPhone within the application. There's some other ways you can go. There is a free converter open source called Media Coder that I found on line that's available at Source Forge [assumed spelling]. I know that's a pretty good one, I've used before in testing -- converting videos from different formats for testing MP3 players here at CNET, I've used that before. >> And it looks like on download.com there's a free iPod video converter, which possibly will also work for the iPhone. It's specifically meant for iPod, but I would think that the video formats are the same -- or supported formats. >> Basically, what you're trying to do is get the video into the MP4 video format. >> Which by the way is the format that all CNET TV video downloads are in. >> How convenient. >> We're already converted for you. But this is quite the cottage industry. I was surprised, there are already a bunch of programs that have popped up primarily for converting DVD video to iPhone, and those are all, you know, 45, 50 bucks. >> If you're wanting to do that, not that it's legal -- >> Right. >> Questionable legality in that. There's also a great product called Handbreak that's also open source. And free. Inherently. >> Okay. Hope that answered your question William. Let's move on here. We've got a question from Van from North Carolina. Wanting to know should you upgrade an iBook or buy a new Mac book. Are you there Van? >> Hey guys, how are you doing? >> Good, how are you doing? >> Pretty good. >> Thanks for calling in, what's your question, did I summarize correctly there? >> Yeah. I have an iBook, and believe it or not I just bought it off eBay, and of course Apple released Leopard. Kind of -- [Inaudible] -- but I was wondering whether I should upgrade it, you know, and get maybe another hard drive and some more RAM, and then upgrade to [Inaudible] and Leopard. Or just go ahead and try to sell it again on eBay and then get a Mac book. A refurbished Mac book at the Apple store. >> Is this a G3 or a G4 iBook? >> It's a G4 12-inch. I don't know if that helps. >> Yeah, actually the little bit that I know about this. Josh Wiminson [assumed spelling] from Webware has gotten Leopard to run on his G 4 iBook. It's slow. It doesn't do all the fancy video, you know, transitions that it would be able to do on a Mac book. But I believe it's possible. I think he's been able to get it up and running. >> And that's kind of -- I think the tone there should maybe guide you a little bit. If you -- >> It's possible. >> You can get it up and running. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work really well for you. One thing that is suggested if you are considering upgrading, Life Hacker [assumed spelling] has a really good article on this that we can post in the blog for you, blog.cnet.com -- cnettv.com. They really recommend a clean install if you're going to do it. Kind of similar to what you would consider in the Windows world. Maybe don't just upgrade over top of Tiger. You might want to consider a clean install. But I have heard a lot about problems with Leopard, with upgrades. And so it -- Macs, they're one of those machine -- they've got a really good resale value, and it doesn't kind of matter, even, if it's running Tiger. It might be worth considering -- look around for some completed options, you know, or auctions, see if you can get a good price for it and maybe consider a new one. Hope that helps you out, Van. Let's take one more call here. We have got a question from Mark in Canada on the difference between HDTV and wide screen computer monitors. Are you there Mark? >> Yes, I am. How are you doing? >> Hi, good thanks. What are you wondering? >> Well, I'm trying to build a computer to use as a media box, just -- and I'm going put an HD tuner in it. But I have an opportunity to get a 22-inch wide screen monitor, just a computer monitor to use as a display. And I'm wondering am I going to lose any quality between using an LCD computer monitor versus an HDTV. >> Good question. What operating system are you going to put on there? >> It's going to have just XP with -- >> XP? >> Yeah, XP with the media center. >> Okay, so XP is the good news, because it sounds like there are big problems with Vista being able to output certain kinds of HD video. The short answer is that it depends on the monitor. Do you know which one you have? >> It's a -- it's not the best kind. I think it's a Vision Quest. >> Ah. >> 22-inch LCD with the DVI. >> Yeah, I mean, because there are kind of differences in the monitors I would say that an off-brand one is a little sketchier. But it also just depends on the Mac's resolution on the monitor. Do you know what that is? >> I don't know what it is, offhand. No. >> The little bit I know about this too is what you're paying for with HDTV televisions is the quality of the tubes, the actual lighting system, the backlighting on it. So kind of an off market LCD monitor is not going to give you the best color or presentation for video, even if it does have the resolution. >> Yeah, definitely. I think -- I think, you know, if you're talking about HD, then LCD TV is the way to go. And you know that those [Inaudible] TVs are nice and cheap, and that might be the way to go. All right. That's our last call. I hope not for the show, but for this moment. I hope that helped you out. We now have an e-mail question, actually. Robin Sacramento [assumed spelling] writes into CNET Live at cnet.com. I've been thinking of getting an Xbox 360 because of the media extender options, but all of the games like Zelda and Mario that I love are on the Wii. Can you help a brother out? Can I hack a Wii to be a media extender? Well, the answer is yes, and also no. As you will find out in today's insider secret. ^M00:24:55 [ Music ] ^M00:25:05 >> The Nintendo Wii is great for Wii sports, but doesn't sport any of the streaming media features of Xbox 360. Want to stream photos, movies, and videos straight from your desktop to your Wii? Then we've got you covered. I'm Randal Bay [assumed spelling] for cnet.com, and today we'll show you how to turn your Wii into a media center. >> Getting your media from the desktop to the living room is a lot easier than you think. We're going to use Orb streaming software and the Wii's Web browser to get video and media right off your PC and on your TV. First, open up your Web browser and head to mycast.orb.com and download the orb streaming software. Run the installer and you'll be prompted to create an account. Click Next and you're off to the races. While the software is installing [Inaudible] will make sure that your PC is fast enough to handle realtime media streaming. The installer will ask you a few questions about your home network configuration. After that, the installer will finish and prompt you to log on to mycastdotorb.com for the first time. Orb will automatically add your My Videos, your My Pictures, and My Music folders to your library. But if you've got media in other places you'll need to add them manually. Head down to the bottom-right corner and look for the orb icon in your system tray. Right-click on it, select Configuration, and then you'll see a tab where you can specify where your TV shows are saved, and the media tab where you can add more folders to your library. After you add a folder you should be able to go back to mycast.orb.com and see the files show up in your library. You've only got one more thing to do to make sure our media center PC is ready to play nicely with our Wii. Head to the Settings page in the corner of the My Calf Site [assumed spelling]. Now, under the general list from the drop down menu you'll see an entry for streaming formats. Make sure you set this to Flash so that all your videos will be able to play in any Web browser, including your Wii. Let's head on to your Wii and start watching some videos on our PC. We've already setup our Wii to work with our Wi-Fi network. So now we'll just log on to Orb from the Wii. We'll go mycast.orb.com, enter in our user name and password, and viola, a streamlined interface to access your media. Now in order for you to use the Internet channel you'll have to go to the Wii shop channel and pony up 500 extra Wii points if you haven't already done it. The process is pretty simple from start to finish, but there's one issue that seems to be creeping up on forums everywhere, and that's fire walls. If you're using a fire wall you've got make sure to unblock the ports that Orb needs to get through your fire wall. Also remember that I solution works for more than just your Wii. You can use Orb to play shift to other devices like laptops, PDAs, or cell phones or any other devices with integrated media player or Flash. Now if you're using a Mac or a LINUX box as your media server there are other options too, like Wii media center for Mac or Miss TV for LINUX that let's you get your stream on if you're not afraid of a little Google searching. You should be off and running now with your wonderful right Wii. I'm going to get back to watching some TV shows I've been waiting for. I'm Randal Bay for cnet.com. See you later. ^M00:27:54 [ Music ] ^M00:27:55 >> We'll be back with your calls in just a minute, but first it's time for best of the Web. Best of the Web is brought to you my our friends at webware.com. Today, the best of the Web -- it's all about finding you a little bit of love -- in a hurry. >> In one minute or less. >> In one minute or less at woome.com. Or as I like to call it, woooo-me. Because when you look at it in the URL bar it looks really funny. So the deal is they have these sessions, right, like little sessions for speed dating via web cam. And you pop into your session if you miss it, somebody else can jump in there and dupe your potential future mate. And then you woo them. You just woo them. >> So it's a round-robin of wooing. >> Yeah, it's just that simple. >> I like that it's the one minute, like, you know, hold on that. It can't get nasty after only one minute. >> Yeah. Exactly -- >> You know, next. >> You've got one minute to get in, get out, do your wooing, go on home. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. And they say -- I don't know about this -- they say that there are all kinds of topics. For example, you could try to find yourself a baby sitter or a car pool partner. It's not just about wooing. >> Can you go from finding a baby sitter to finding, like, you know, your next mate within the snap of a -- >> Maybe you're just trying to find out how much they really like children. >> I don't know. I don't think that those two should be brought together in the same site is my thing. >> Yeah, I don't know. It's a little interesting. All right. We've got time for just one or two more calls, so let's get those going. Our first call here is Jacob in Brooklyn, New York, with a question about streaming media. Are you there Jacob? >> Yeah, hey. >> Hey, how's it going? >> Okay. First I'd just like to say that I don't really have a problem with the rotating hosts. Fine by me. I like it. >> Great. Thanks. >> You just had a video about extending your media using the Wii. I was wondering though, what's recommended. I don't have any game console yet, I don't have any media extender. I have a Vista laptop. It's a premium, so I have the media center. So what do you recommend I use; what should I buy? >> Well, so if you've got media center, you're halfway there already, right? It sounds like you would probably just need a -- the actual media extender -- media center extender, and so you can go with the Xbox, obviously. Which is kind of not going have a price cut for this holiday season, unfortunately. They already announced. But still, you know, it's a pretty good value if you're using it for media in addition to gaming, because you can do all the TV and movie downloads. So you can stream the media not only from your computer, but also get some new media, and that's -- you know, in terms of hardware that's going to be guaranteed to work the best with media center, I think that's probably going to be your best bet. >> Okay. >> Okay. Hope that helps you out. >> Thanks a lot. >> All right. I think we have time for one more quick call. We have Evan on the line. Evan, you have a question about Logitech speakers, are you there? >> Yeah. >> How's it going, what's your question? >> I'm wondering -- I bought a pair of -- a set of Z 5500 Logitech speakers, and the sub woofer makes this -- a slight humming noise. I was wondering how to get rid of that. >> Yeah, a slight humming noise. If I was hearing a humming noise coming out of a speaker I would think two things. Either that you've got a problem having the speakers pow being grounded. Is it only the sub? >> Well, it's got -- the sub woofer has a -- what is it called? The thing that supplies power to everything. >> Yeah. Do you know if that's plugged into, like, a three-prong outlet in your home, or is that coming off a USB or what's driving the speakers, power wise. >> Just a normal outlet. >> Okay. >> Normal outlet. >> Normal outlet. I think your problem might be having the actual power outlet grounded. So that will usually take away that 60 hertz hum noise. Either that or you got a defective speaker. >> Yeah. If it's something you can take into a repair shop, it's probably worth checking out -- [ Multiple voices speaking ] >> The only quick fix I can think about that is usually you can find those little two-prong to three-prong adapters for your wall outlet that will help ground that connection, so that will help take away the hum. >> All right, hope that helps you, give that a try Evan. Sounds like a pretty decent selection to me. Okay, so next week, as you know, is Thanksgiving, next Thursday is Thanksgiving holiday here in the United States. That means there will be no CNET Live show. >> Awe. >> However, we will be making it up to you in spades on Friday November 23 with the holiday help desk. For example, we will be taking your calls all day long, live from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Time, and we're also giving away Wii bundles worth $600. So it's not just -- >> I need that. >> I -- see, Donald is a Wii virgin. >> I am a Wii virgin. >> Can you believe that? So if you didn't get your question answered today, and we had a lot of calls and it was awesome -- make sure you call us on that Friday, Black Friday. November 23, for the holiday help desk. See you then. >> I'll be there. >> Donald will be there. >> Give me your [Inaudible] questions. >> Bye everyone. ^M00:32:51[ Music ] ^M00:33:01 >> Claus Umlaut. Umpire at the '85 U.S. Open >> McEnroe. >> Wait, there's a chance that ball did hit the line. You're not evil. >> Are you handling disputes with a simple phone call? You a card member?