CNET Live: January 24, 2008Tom and Brian answer viewer tech questions, and Ivan Kanevski of glassbooth.com stops by to demonstrate how the Web site helps you pick the presidential candidate that best represents you.
[ Music ] ^M00:00:06 >> Coming up on CNET Live, we'll tell you who to vote for for President. Aren't we presumptuous? Plus we'll go for a flight with WiFi and all docking systems are go for your laptop. All that and more coming up on CNET Live. ^M00:00:22 [ Music ] ^M00:00:26 >> Hey gang, welcome to CNET Live, Brian Cooley and Tom Merritt and most importantly, you. At triple 8 900 CNET, phones are open two lines free right now. >> Yes thank you for calling beforehand it helped the coronary position of me and our producer. >> Thumpa, thumpa, thumpa, thumpa, slowed down a little bit. We take your calls, we try to give you answers on what to get, how to use it, how to get things sorted out that aren't behaving properly and when you do call, >> Yes that's right you get to talk to Andrea this week. >> Andrea's on this week. >> Andrea's in there waiting to pick up your call, get you all lined up and we'll see the call and pick it up in here. >> She'll whisper an answer in our ear so we sound intelligent. >> She really knows all that stuff. >> Now before we start to sound intelligent, first up we'll show you some things we crave. >> It certainly hasn't happened yet, it's not about to soon either. >> Okay yes. These are some of our favorite things from the crave blog >> What you got? >> At Crave.Cnet.com. >> What the hell is that? >> You are going to hate this. >> Oh I do already. It's purple. >> You don't like purple? >> No. >> It's a royal color. >> Ah antiroyalist here. We'll talk about that later. >> Uh huh. >> We'll talk about that later. [Inaudible] McCain for President. >> You're darn right. >> This is the 7900 crystal prism from Nokia. People are blogging about this like crazy. It's got triangular buttons, >> Okay. >> That's cool. >> Keep going! >> It's got a real sapphire right here, a little sapphire button. >> Okay. >> It's you know, it's got a cool design. It's actually designed by Fredericka [assumed spelling] Duball [assumed spelling] he's an avante garde artist. >> So it's one of Nokia's fashion phones. >> Yeah. >> Basically. >> And it's an Asian phone. Like it's coming out in Asia, >> Oh yeah. >> Later this year. Like it's not even coming to America any time soon or anything. >> It looks real thin. Looks like it has a little velvet bag to, >> Oh yeah. >> To further the jewelry image to it. >> It's a sweet looking phone in my opinion. >> It's funny how Nokia >> I'm not a purple hater though. >> Nokia stakes out two areas. One, they make the most ordinary phones, you know regular, >> Right. >> Straight phones, >> They just work straight on dull phones. >> And they own the fashion sect. >> Yeah. >> Which is also kind of bizarre. They have these two lobes. Anyway here's what I've got for you. Speaking of wireless, southwest is the latest airline to dabble in the area of wireless in-flight. They're announcing tests where they're going to be letting you use WiFi on the plane. As of now they aren't saying anything about restrictions, so you could use it, I'd imagine, as a VOIP phone. Getting around the debate over whether you can use wireless phones on the plane. >> Yeah it's interesting too because American Airlines is going to be testing this as well. >> That's right. >> And the way they're doing this is they're beaming a signal from cell towers up toward the plane and then the plane has WiFi, >> They redistribute. >> Up above your heads so that you get a nice coverage all through the cabin. >> Now Southwest I think is actually doing satellite to plane, so I think they are the standout in terms of, >> They're going in the other direction. >> They're going the other way. So anyway this is really a trend that is starting to happen. Airlines are doing or testing WiFi. It's not long before you will stay connected in the plane. If that's a good thing, remains to be seen. Let's get to your calls at triple 8 900 CNET. We go to Noel right off the bat in Puerto Rico. I haven't had a call from Puerto Rico in quite a while. Noel, welcome to CNET Live! >> Hello. >> What's on your mind today? >> Hello? >> Hey! >> Hey! >> You're on air! >> You fell right out of your chair didn't you! >> Yeah. >> I knew about that. So what's on your mind, what can we help you with? >> I was wondering if you've heard about the Accutron [inaudible] and whether it's legit, whether you think it's good for [inaudible]. >> It's legit. They had it over at MacWorld. It's, if anybody doesn't know, it's the MacBook that has been modded [assumed spelling] to be a tablet. >> Yeah. >> It works and they're actually shipping it. But I didn't get a chance to try it so I don't know much else about it. >> It appears to have built-in GPS which I find kind of cool for the whole tablet thing. It got a Best of Show from MacWorld ?07, so the last MacWorld, not this or in MacWorld Magazine anyway. I don't know if it was a show release at a MacWorld, >> It's a little pricey too for a student budget, 2,290 bucks, >> Yeah. >> Is the base price, the asking price. >> It's got Way COM [assumed spelling] pen technology integrated. They do arguably the best or at least the most popular pen and tablet technology out there. I haven't, >> When you talk about being a student, what kind of student needs to you have? Are you a designer? >> No, I'm going into Engineering. >> Engineering. >> Oh okay. That could also be good to have a tablet. >> Could be useful but again, I don't know. >> Is the software you're going to use in an Engineering program going to be available for a Mac platform? >> The school said you could use both. >> Okay. >> So I'm guessing the Mac I could always run through campus if I need anything. >> Yeah you could always run it in emulation. >> Yeah. >> But I'm just wondering if it's the ideal way to go because there are so many Windows tablets. >> Yeah but you've got UNIX there. I mean that's the nice thing for an engineer. >> Oh right, right. >> I mean you've got UNIX underpinning so, >> Yeah. >> So are the UNIX like underpinning previously, whatever. But I think if the price is out and you're sure you want a tablet, would be the other question, then sure. It is definitely a working product. It's not like a scam or anything like that. >> Yeah to me the most important thing on this is check around in the forums on CNET, at Help.CNET.com and make sure that if anyone has one of these, that they've had a good experience with the manufacturer. I get more nervous about the small boutique maker than the fact that they're modding Apple hardware, which we know is good. >> You don't just try anybody do you? >> But how are these guys? I don't trust anybody, especially you. >> Oh! >> Let's go to our next call. Thanks for the call there Noel. [ Laughter ] You want to go to Ontario or Indiana? Similar. >> Let's go to Zach. >> Okay we're going to go to Zach in Ontario. I assume its Ontario, Canada and not California. Hello Zach. >> But is it? >> Hi Zach, where are you calling from? Which Ontario? >> Ontario Canada. >> Okay. Good deal. Now what's on your mind today? >> Well I'm doing a podcast and I just want to know how I can make it better. Like I want to know what websites I could put my videos on. >> Okay well two questions here; one, how to make the show better and one, where to put the thing. Is it audio or video that you are doing? >> It's video. >> Okay video podcast. Are you getting good audio, good video, where's your problem you think in the quality of the show? >> Well I just don't know where to upload it on the internet and I'm using a TV card on my computer so, I don't know how, >> Okay so two different things going on here. Let's talk about distribution in terms of uploading. Tom where would you put a video podcast? >> There's a bunch of podcast hosts out there. There's PodBean [assumed spelling] and MyPodcast.net and some of these are free with certain restrictions, some of them you have to pay for. I'll put a blog posting in our show notes at Blog.CNETTV.com that has a good rundown of different places that you can host. There's libsin [assumed spelling], there's you know, you have Mac, you can do it on your iDisk [assumed spelling], BlueHost, but my favorite is to actually do the creative comments hosting on Archive.org. It isn't always perfect. There are sometimes people complain that they couldn't get to the file, but it's absolutely free and it's the most reliable free one that I've found. And actually our download of the week, later in the show, we'll show the piece of software that they use that's free, >> That's right. >> To access and upload your stuff, creative comments licensed to Archive.org so, >> And real quickly how do you do your show? Do you capture it with a webcam to your computer or are you using a camcorder? >> I'm using a camcorder. >> Okay so the good thing is you can go to tape, mini DV I assume, it's the most common, >> Yeah. >> And you get a great image that way and then fire wire that over to your machine to edit it as opposed to using your camera as a webcam. You know you'll get arguably better results by going through your mini DV tape even thought its a little more time to do the transfer and all that, but that's going to give you your really good quality. So I think your quality is okay, it's just a matter of getting your distribution sorted out. So check that out and watch the show in just about ten minutes. Tom's going to have that really cool piece of software for getting it distributed. Okay thanks for the call there Zach. Now coming up we're going to be talking politics, which we don't do here very often on CNET Live, but this is Presidential politics with a whole new online spin. Tis the season of course. >> But first an interesting new phone from GE. It's not a cell phone, but it is cordless and it does use the internet. It has two modes, just watch. [ Music ] >> I'm John Falcone, Senior Editor from CNET.com and this is the GE 28310EE1. This is a cordless phone that lets you make calls on your landline or your Skype account. What's great about this phone is that you can make those Skype phones straight off your home network. You don't need to be plugged into your computer or even have your computer on while you're on Skype. In addition to that you can also make calls on your existing landline just like you would with a standard cordless phone. It's a DEC 6.0 cordless phone so you shouldn't get any interference in the house whatsoever and you can get up to three more handsets like this, sold separately and add them to this base station just with a simple pairing. The other great thing about this phone is that unlike previous models from other manufacturers we've seen in the past, this one actually lets you toggle between the landline and the Skype line really easily, just like you would with a normal 2-line phone. You can even do conferences between the Skype and the landline which is also really easy. Just like a standard 2-line phone that you've dealt with in the past. Set up is really pretty simple, you just plug in your network cable, plug in your landline cable if you want to use both, set up your Skype account on the phone, just by plugging in your account and password and that's pretty much it. All in all we found the phone system works exactly as advertised. We did like the fact that, unlike the competition, you can toggle between the lines and do conference calls and in general we were really happy with this dual mode Skype phone. Really our only complaint with this phone was the design. It's kind of a throw back to what phones looked like several years ago and it's not something we would classify as sexy or modern but it gets the job done, it has excellent battery life and it's one of the better dual mode Skype phones that we've seen to date. I'm John Falcone for CNET and this is the GE 28310EE1 Dual Mode Skype phone. [ Music ] >> Cool product there. Okay welcome back to CNET Live, I'm Brian Cooley. In case you haven't noticed, it's sound bite, presidential election season here in the US and tom is joining us now with the co-founder of a very cool site that'll help you get your thinking together on this, GlassBooth.org; one of several sites helping voters figure out who they want in November. >> Thanks Brian. That's right. For a long time, people have felt the web would be an excellent resource to kind of really find out what's really going on with the Presidential campaign. Get the information you need. And there've been several last elections these quizzes online that you can take that sort of like what hobbit are you quiz but instead it tells you what Presidential candidate that you might want to vote for. But they always kind of lacked something; they always felt a little off. This year's best effort that I've seen is GlassBooth.org and we have the founder, Ivan. Thanks for joining us. Or co-founder I should say. >> Thank you. >> I don't want to leave your other folks out of it. So GlassBooth.org is trying to improve on this idea of answering issues, questions and matching you up with the ideal candidate. How are you guys doing it differently? >> So I think at the core of the process is a huge, huge wealth of resources that we put into the actual topics and researching the candidates where they stand. So at the core of it is a wealth of information. The way I think, the way we distinguish ourselves is that we focus on the educational process throughout the quiz, >> So it's not just answering questions, you're actually learning about the issues. >> Exactly so you know and it's also, you know it's not a simple case of I agree with abortion, I disagree with abortion. We'll have multiple questions on you know, various topics. >> Oh yeah like civil liberties, crime and punishment, Iraq. >> Exactly. See you start off by which issues are important to you, you allocate points to them, once you reach 20 points you go to the next step and on that page we give you a list of questions based on the issues you chose. From there, >> Even the questions are customized; you're not going to get the same questions, >> Exactly. >> If you have different interests. >> Exactly and you know they really try to drill down to the issue at hand. The questions themselves can sometimes be difficult but we provide links within the questions to help you actually learn more about the topic that you're answering. >> That's interesting because it actually helps you form an opinion instead of saying, well I don't really know. I guess I'm against it, I don't know. >> Exactly. So once you go through the process, you know I think the final payoff is really where a lot of the value is created. you're able to toggle between all the issues and all the candidates very easily and you can see visually where you answered and where we think the candidate would have answered in the same question, in addition to providing rationale as to why do we think the candidate stands on this issue in this way. >> Well I've had fun with that actually where you know, I've not only gone through and said here's what I believe, but also gone through and tried to figure out, okay, if I'm similar on that, what happens if I change my opinion on that? Who do I get then? >> Right. >> which can be a fun little game as well to kind of see like oh I'm sort of wavering on that. I answered this way but if I don't feel as strongly do I get a different person. And then of course you can just go through and just like totally lie, >> Right. >> And say like extreme left or extreme right answers and see who comes up that way. But I like that it gives me that sort of temperature reading so to speak. And you don't just give one answer too, you give percentages on all the different candidates so you can kind of say well this is your top guy but he's not even that far from say Duncan Hunter or Mike Huckabee or Barack Obama even if they're not Number 1. >> Exactly. I think one thing we wanted to avoid was providing prescriptive advice on who to vote for and you know, the, by surfacing everything, one of our kind of main ethos, is transparency. We're not trying to tell you okay take this quiz, your Number 1 guy is you know Dennis Kucinich, that is who you should vote for. We encourage you to see why they're the Number 1 and maybe, maybe as you're looking at the results, actually this is you know, this issue right here really put Dennis Kucinich as my Number 1. maybe I really, that's not my Number 1 issue and you can actually go through it and actually look at the rationale and look at what they said, you can watch videos of them actually saying it and seeing their legislative record as well to further you know solidify your impression of the candidate. >> Now obviously there are tons of resources out there. You guys have some favorites that you use as well in researching for the sites or things you can recommend people to kind of supplement? >> Sure so one of our initial partners when we first started was on the issues and actually created the core of the information we had, >> Is that OnTheIssues.com? >> It's OnTheIssues.org. >> Dot org okay. >> And of course we also worked with Rock the Vote which provides a very handy widget for people to easily register and be eligible to vote. I think that's one of the main, main things you could be doing after taking the quiz is actually registering and acting upon what you have learned. >> Actually getting into the process so you can actually vote instead of just researching online. >> Exactly. >> You can turn it into action. >> Exactly. >> One of the, I know we were talking about it before we came in here on the show was politweets [assumed spelling] takes the feeds from twitter, >> Right. >> And actually searches them for candidate names and then puts them in a Republican and a Democratic side so you can see what people are saying, kind of take the temperature of different folks? Opinions on the candidates as the race goes. It was great for when I was watching the debate. >> Right. >> But you got any other last resources you want to >> Sure. >> [inaudible]. >> One that I'm pretty impressed with and just being a designer, more parietal to look at the presentation and see how they're approaching is political base is actually a pretty solid property. >> Is that a wiki? [Inaudible] Foundation based? >> Actually I'm not sure, I'm not actually, it's not. I believe it was actually started by one of the founders of CNET as a matter of fact. >> Yeah I know Shelby Bonnie [assumed spelling] is involved. >> Right. >> But I couldn't remember if he was in with the wikis or just wiki like. >> You know frankly it's just lots of resources and it's I think very well presented. That's one I've been eyeing. There's another one which I >> I've found a lot of good money stuff there. >> Exactly, exactly. I think that's an interesting one. And I think one thing that we actually tried to kind of steer away from the coverage of politics like a horse race you know? I think a lot of times you'll see the New York Times political section and it's you know this candidate is just two points ahead in this state and you know that in some degree will I believe trivializes what's at stake you know. We want people to make more informed decisions at the voting booth. >> Covering in a lot of cases, who do you think is going to win instead of covering who do you think you should vote for. >> Exactly. >> And I think that's where sites like Glass Booth come in and help out. Thank you so much. >> Thank you! >> Appreciate you coming by. The site is GlassBooth.org, go check it out, go play around with it I think you'll enjoy it if you like politics in the least, which this year you've got to like at least a little bit right Brian? >> I have to get my recommendations right now and let you know how that goes. Next up, our download of the week and more of your calls at triple 8 900 CNET. ^M00:17:18 [ Music ] ^M00:17:33 >> Hi I'm Natalie DelConti [assumed spelling] from Podshow Tech [inaudible]. I got a new job in the Big Apple and I don't mean with these guys. No, I'm going to work with these guys. Got a new show, not sure what we'll call it yet so, new show, New Year, from New York with me Natalie DelConti from CNET TV. ^M00:17:52 [ Music ] ^M00:18:00 >> Catch the baddest textploitation bids at CNETTV.com. [ Music ] >> Okay, welcome back to CNET Live. Brian Cooley with Tom Merritt, we're about to reveal who we're going to vote for in the Presidential election. [ Laughter ] >> Brian Cooley for President. >> Dr. Merritt on the running ticket. All righty! >> Boy that would put the country in some sad shape. [ Laughter ] >> You think we're in trouble now folks! You just wait until November with these two are on the ballot. All right. >> Triple 8 900 2638, we >> That's right. >> got lines open folks. >> That's right we do. We've got two lines open so jump on them and get in there, it's a rare opportunity. While we're doing that I'm going to clear Norman in Indiana. Hello Norman! Welcome to CNET Live. >> Thank you guys. First time I called in. >> All righty what's on your mind? >> I'm a rookie at podcasting. I have a new laptop with Vista and I am trying not to drink the Apple Kook-Aid, I'm trying to stay away from iTunes. I tried Juice as a program to catch >> Yep. >> Podcasts but it does not appear to be compatible with Vista. >> Yeah well imagine >> Am I wrong? >> That. Yeah you know that kind of thing let's see there's a couple of things that are, a couple of tutorials that I've found that will get you around that. Chris Perillo [assumed spelling] has one up on his site at Perillo.com to get Juice 2.2 to work in Vista. You might want to follow his or one of the other tutorials out there that have the work arounds and some of the config files you've got to fiddle around with. It's going to get a bit technical but you're a CNET Live watcher so I know it's not going to freak you out. But there is some under to hood stuff you got to do it looks like. >> Okay. >> There's also Doppler and iPodder are other programs that Microsoft itself says these ought to work. So I haven't tried them on Vista but you might want to give them a shot. >> Okay? Try that out. So coming up next, download of the week here on CNET Live. >> Lets role it. [ Music ] >> Download of the Week is brought to you by our good friends at Download.com. This week the front-end to the ability to upload your stuff to Archive.org. Remember the caller from earlier in the show; it's called Spin Express 2. Let's put it over on my computer. >> There it is. >> There we go. This is their website. It is not just an uploader though; let's pull up the actual product itself. This is a front, the front-end where you can share media; you can do collaborative file sharing >> Yeah. >> With limited amount of people so if you're working on a video project and you're sharing elements back and forth you can do it that way. You can get media, you can actually go and search so you see here, you know what? I need some footage of birds. Just some B role of birds, I can use this to search birds that are public domain, >> Yeah >> Which means I can use them whether I'm making money off of it or not >> Yeah. >> And then it shows me here are all the different places where I can find bird footage off of Archive.org and download it for free and use it. >> So is this basically a front-end for Archives.org? >> It is, it connects to through OurMedia.org, which is actually meant for video producers and podcast producers >> Yeah >> And people who're creating creative works to catalog it and Archive.org does the hosting. >> The hosting. >> That's here to do with the publishing. You can choose to publish it through OurMedia or you can actually choose to publish it through BlipTV as well if you've got videos and you want them to be not only on Archive.org but you can also have them on BlipTV. You can post them both places. >> I imagine they're going to be adding more hosts there as they come on board in the collaborative. >> Yeah hopefully. >> It would seem likely. >> But if you're looking for a, like our caller was earlier, a cheap place to >> This is it. >> Host, this is free. >> Free yeah. And Archive.org is the real deal. >> Yeah. I like it. Okay Spin Express. >> I'm sorry, let's get back to the calls at triple 8 900 CNET. Samuel is in New York with a question about grabbing video streams. Hi Samuel. Welcome to CNET Live. >> [Inaudible]. >> You've got to turn your audio down there. You're on a delay. Turn down your speakers Samuel. >> And of course there'll be a delay in your hearing that. [ Laughter ] >> Do you hear me now? >> [Inaudible]. >> What's on your mind Samuel? Welcome to CNET Live. >> well on CNET Live I can use post on Domo.com different software to download video but what about video that's going live? Like CNET Live? >> I think you can do that with Real Player 11 Beta. >> Beta yeah. >> So that's one I, I hated Real Player for years. I got fed up with all bloaty and naggy it was but, >> You could do it with VLC as well. >> I'm off VLC lately. It's been so buggy for me. Does it work for you? >> It works fine for me. >> I tried a bunch of the file conversions we always talk about and they just go bonk! >> Oh really. >> It didn't work out for me. Maybe it's just my machine. >> I've had no issues with it but yeah it could vary with machine to machine. >> Yeah. >> There's a really good streaming video software blog posting here that I've got on my machine with a bunch of different quick time stream recorders, flash video stream recorders >> Yeah I've used WM recorder for Windows Media. >> So if you want I'll post that in our show notes at Blog.CNETTV.com as well. But yeah Real Player 11 Beta, which I removed from my machine because it was such a bad, it was such a hog. >> It's a bad >> Oh I liked it >> Behavior >> Because it was a nice interface where it would just pop up in the corner >> Yeah and it saves your media files as what is called an IVR, internet video recording. But that's not hard to convert out to at least an AVI. I've done that myself and it looks pretty good. So anyway, Real Player 11 and then all of these that tom is going to put into the CNET Live CNET TV blog so you can go check those out. There's a lot of choices out there. >> Thank you. >> All right. Amanda wrote into CNET Live at CNET.com which you can also write in to CNET Live at CNET.com, said, hey, I've got a laptop but I never take it home. I hate having to plug and unplug all the monitors and mouses and things. A friend of mine said I should get a laptop dock. Okay great how do I get one? Can you explain how this works? Yes Amanda, we can and we will in today's Insider Secret. >> Scratching your head trying to figure out how to keep your desktop and your laptop in synch? Here's an idea. Throw away the desktop! [ Thumping noise ] At least properly recycle it please. I'm Tom Merritt, editor from CNET.com. On this edition of Insider Secrets, I'll show you how to use a laptop dock so you can use one computer for everything. ^M00:24:18 [ Music ] ^M00:24:28 Here's how it works. >> I've got my dock set up here, I close my computer, wait for it to go to sleep and pull it off and head off to whatever mind numbing meeting I have to go to next. When I'm done, I put the laptop back on the dock, open it up and wake it up. But before you run out and plop down 70 or 100 dollars on a new laptop dock, here's a few considerations for you. Consider a universal docking station. Your laptop manufacturer likely makes a laptop dock made specifically for your brand of laptop, but it's going to be expensive. You can save a few bucks by going with a third party universal dock. Some laptops, like this one, have a proprietary connector. Make sure the dock you get will work with the laptop you have. Get everything you need. At the very least you'll want ports for a mouse and keyboard, monitor and network connection. You might also want a jack for headphones or speakers, USB ports for other peripherals and any other ports for other peripherals that you use like printers. Work out your budget. Docking stations vary in pricing from as little as 30 bucks on up to several hundred dollars. Determine exactly what types of ports you absolutely have to have and don't get distracted by unnecessary features. Security. You can find docking stations with electronic undocking features, it means you have to put in a password to have it removed or physical locks that actually attach to your laptop. Once you've picked your doc, it's time for the easy part; installing it. Shut off you laptop. While many docks allow you to pull your laptop off while it's still powered on like I did earlier, the first time you install it, it's best to turn everything off. Now look for the connector. It could be a USB cable or a proprietary connector like on this laptop. Now plug your laptop into the dock. Pay attention to the guiding pins that line up with your laptops connector. You'll hear a click when the connection is made. Plug in the docking stations power cord, attach your peripherals, ^M00:26:38 [ Attaching peripherals ] ^M00:26:43 And turn on your laptop. Your computer may or may not prompt you to add new hardware. If it does, just follow the instructions. That's it for this Insider Secret, I'm Tom Merritt for CNET.com, and remember, don't throw your desktop into a trashcan; recycle it. >> Whew! >> Yeah, nice cable shots there. >> Wow that was scintillating, that connection of that multi pin, whew I almost fainted! >> Won't see stuff like that on TV every day. >> Whoa! >> Anyway, hope that helps you out Amanda. That's kind of the basics of the dock. >> That's certainly more than the basics, I'd say. >> Let's squeeze in one more call here. We actually have Matthew on the line in Carson, Carson, Nevada? >> Nevada! >> What's that? >> California, I'm not a >> [inaudible]. >> Carson! I know Carson! >> It's too hot for me. >> Yes. [ Laughter ] >> A little town I'm hoping Verizon files will come to. >> Oh, me too. I'm in a bigger town hoping Verizon files will come one day. So what can we do for you today? >> I was wondering for networking, is there really anything under the hood different between when Windows Vista Business versus Home Premium? Is there really any really, what's the difference for networking you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah what kind of networking, are you talking about home networking or business networking. >> Home networking, IT, you know what I'm saying, what's really, what's, does business really have any real good features versus home for networking, any internal stuff? >> It depends on what you're talking about. I mean there's remote desktop included in Business. What else we got? >> Vista Home Premium I don't believe has support for domains. So depending on whether you are connecting to a corporate network that needs domain recognition and logon that wouldn't, apparently be in Vista Home Premium. I haven't actually fiddled with these levels of Vista but a lot of this mirrors the way XP used to be. XP Home didn't have support for domains, didn't have a VPN built in. >> Right. >> Does Business have that? >> Well Business has the remote desktop connection. >> All right so that's >> So you can access, you know from your, for your Business through like that kind of VP. >> And I don't know if Home Premium is going to have automatic network backup which you do have. >> It doesn't look like it does. >> For Business. >> Windows complete PC backup and restore is part of Business and Ultimate but it's not part of Home. >> Yeah so there are at least three things you're missing and then the VPN question, you know true VPN, versus the remote desktop, I have a feeling isn't in Home Premium though I haven't verified that yet. So those are the three things you should be looking for. >> So I mean if you're just talking about running your home network, being able to share files between PCs in your house, Home Premium is fine for that, but if you're talking about like you said, maybe IT stuff where you're accessing a remote network for a company or a corporation and you need to do some remote desktop or some VPN or a logon to a domain, then you probably want to look at Windows Vista Business or Ultimate. >> But there is also a software I can use that for. Like go to MyPC right? >> Sure yeah you could, in fact there's a free, there's a free website, LogMeIn >> Yeah for doing remote desktop. So if you have just like a couple of things and you want to save some money, there're definitely workarounds for all of that stuff. >> Exactly. >> Awesome. Thank you very much. >> All right, thanks for the call Matthew. Now let's go check out the Best of the Web. [ Music ] And Best of the Web is brought to us this week and every week by WebWare.com our sister site that is all about the best of Web 2.0 and webware sites and services. And this week they filled us in about LastFM. Bingo! LastFM has been around for awhile. You're a big user. >> Yeah I've been using it for about three years now. >> And this is an online music streaming service, but now CBS owns it; CBS Interactive. And they have now opened up the access to an ad based free model, which has been the model before. >> Well in the past there were some songs you could click on and listen to on demand. And what they are doing now is they've signed deals with all the labels so all the songs, >> Okay. >> Except maybe some Indies in this case, >> Right. >> You don't have a large swaths of songs that aren't available on demand and you can listen to anything you want three times. >> Oh. >> I think in the past you could take a listen to it as many times as you want. >> Oh so now they've got more of that copyright concern in there about >> Yeah. >> Competition. That's that old web rights thing. >> So I don't know. There's so many subscription services out there and there's DMR free [inaudible]. >> Yeah. >> On Amazon. It's still a great tool for learning about music >> It's free and it's [inaudible]. >> And I like that you can listen to a sample of it and in this case now the sample's the whole track. I use it to kind of track what I'm listening to and then it tells you if you go over to my version, >> Where you get your >> Yeah just like here's the top artist this week and it uploads it from my iTunes in my iPod. Gives top artists overall but then the really cool part is over here where it's, I can look at other people in my neighborhood and it says you know, if you, yeah they have some interesting icon there huh? >> All right. What makes the neighbors? >> Now the people in the neighborhood listen to similar music that you do based on what has been uploaded so you can look at that. I discovered a couple of artists, like Logan Whitehurst for instance that I wouldn't have known about if I hadn't >> That the neighbors had been listening to >> been looking at my neighbor's charts and saying oh he listens to a lot of stuff I like >> All right. >> Oh I'll check that one out too; so a pretty good social networking and recommendation technology in there. Anyway it's the new LastFM, it is, I'd say a very much the gold standard now for free streaming music services out there, ad supported, go check that one out, you might like it. Okay next week we're back at you here on CNET Live at, we've got an interesting show about cryptography. >> Yeah we've got an expert from Cryptography.com. They both do security software and file protection. >> Hmm. [Inaudible]. >> So we should have a really good talk with them. That's coming up on CNET Live next week. >> At one o'clock Pacific, four eastern! >> Thursday, 11 a.m. Hawaii. >> There we go! ^M00:32:18 [ Music ]