Greetings, citizens of the Internet.
I am Ashley Esqueda.
And I'm Bridget Carey.
Welcome to the very last day of our CES 2017 extravaganza here on the CNet stage.
Today, we are going to argue about TVs.
And break down the reality of products that we've seen over and over and over again at CES.
We get the pleasure of talking to the 2017 CS Ambassador, who also does some other stuff, too.
Please welcome actor, comic, author, host, and super geek, Aisha Tyler.
I feel like I'm like a middling geek.
Not a super geek.
Like a lesser
I don't know, man.
You play a lot of video games.
Am I **** eye like I don't really have any powers, I'm just good at archery?
You know what I mean like I can't fly?
That's about my level.
It's like our lamest super power, we're gamers.
I do stuff that everybody else does.
I like it like you do.
You get those hot NDA's though, that's nice.
you get to see everything a little bit beforehand.
I do, a tiny bit before.
So you're the CES ambassador this year.
I am, I am.
What does that mean to be ambassador?
I have no idea.
No, all I know is have to abdicate my post before inauguration day.
You will crown the next->> I'm being replaced.
And you're also, you're a host Aisha Tyler just like in West World?
It's a robot.
Welcome to CNET.
I really hope there isn't like a talking lady Ravana, talking men Ravana I'm not gender biased.
I think part of the experience of being the ambassador is just being the link between
The lay person who likes technology but maybe isn't a hyper influencer in this world, experiencing everything talking about it.
I mean for me specifically because I use technology so much in my work, I'm a little bit different.
I'm not like, look at VR.
I'm like this VR demo had better be awesome.
I've already seen 17 that underwhelmed the hell out of me.
I think it's important though because
To be discerning here, because of so much stuff, you can't be excited about everything.
I mean if there's any tech that actually has your credit or you're hopeful for?
Or tech in general?
No, [INAUDIBLE] the thin TV here, [INAUDIBLE] thin TV, yes.
Thin TV is so thin you have to use your imagination.
Look, I love technology.
As you said, I feel like coming to CS is like trying to have a sip of water from a firehose.
It's impossible to truly digest everything that's here.
I'm a filmmaker, so I'm always interested in the stuff that feeds specifically into content creation, and that makes you a better, more powerful content creator.
So I'll be excited to see cameras and platforms and stuff that can make me better at filmmaking I am excited about this self of driving cars.
I have a self driving car so if I see another one that better be better that the Heat, as I like to call her.
And I look at the television because again if you're making [UNKNOWN] on television you're excited about new ways to deliver it and how you can better
Create upwards to make sure that the end experience is better for your viewer, you know I mean those TV's are great, but there's nothing to watch on them, there's a problem, and I think that's something that disconnects specifically with the 4k TV's previously.
Have you tried out virtual reality?
Does it get you nauseated?
I've been lucky, cuz I got to try it way, way back when it first got acquired at Facebook when they first got Oculus Rift.
I tried it there.
I've tried it at subsequent E3s.
I will say the last set of demos at E3 for me were pretty cool.
It's still got a long way to go.
I, when I put my VR headset on I'm a gorgeous chocolate brown woman and then when I'm in VR I'm apparently a white dude.
I don't know why.
That seems like a hurdle we need to overcome.
Magical, yeah we should work on that one, because when I create my own avatar I look like myself with a mohawk and I've got tattoos.
So I think that's a pretty easy move.
We can get there.
Yeah we can get there.
But But ya there was some pretty cool stuff.
At E3 I tried the Star Trek VR game and that was rad.
And also it was controller free which I really like.
I don't mind holding controllers.
Voice commands and it's kind of recognizing your movement tt was pretty 360.
It felt very immersive and fun and I did not get nauseated.
I like that quite a bit.
I'm excited for the holodeck experience.
That's were we need to be.
I think that's the thing, like you're saying, late people are not super connected, that's the thing where they're like
I'm on board when I can see that.
When i can be in Paris and go see the Louvre.
And it's like a real experience.
But I don't want that either.
I wanna be on Mars having a fist fight with a Martian possibly.
I can go to the Louvre.
I mean not everybody can go to the Louvre tomorrow.
Obviously be a cheaper trip.
But it could be a life's goal.
But yeah, I wanna do space kung fu.
Face kung fu, I like it.
Mm-hm, that's my goal.
Face kung fu with Aisha Tyler.
I am down for that.
So we wanna get some hot cakes from you.
We have three products that we chose that are bonkers.
[INAUDIBLE] is a real place.
A lot of concept tech for now that we go to certain places that maybe we don't know always think about going to, right?
Maybe bridge too far.
It's hard to find your niche in the technological world.
When you're trying to innovate, you also trying to fill a niche that think it's not been filled before.
And that is really hard when, again, there's a firehose the size of an elephant Shooting at, you're never gonna get a sip of water.
And 50 years of
You're going to die.
CES, is like
And everybody's trying to find that killer app.
Everybody's trying to find that thing that kind of breaks their niche open.
And I'm sure that a lot of people here this year haven't found it yet.
But they're looking.
Innovation is about expansive thinking, right?
Gotta go big.
Gotta go big or go home.
So Bridget, do you wanna read these off?
We'll have some-
Let's start off with this cannabis.
Okay, I'm hoping this is-
When you're looking at something, don't you wish you could actually feel what it was?
Maybe you wanna buy a dress, and you wanna feel the texture of the fabric.
Well, that's where Canvas comes in.
You can feel textures [UNKNOWN] back on the screen, so the screen will kind of Feel like lumps on your laptop.
Typically triggers me to make a Genius Bar appointment.
If there are lumps in my laptop screen.
And a doctor.
This is not [LAUGH] yeah.
I'll go see your doctor.
Stroke, having a stroke, stroke.
Is this a piece of hardware, or is this gonna be software that's gonna render your current laptop-
It's gonna be built into the
Go into a laptop, so companies designing [UNKNOWN] technology made to be built into a laptop.
Very fair in height.
It's really weird.
I find this a little couple weird options to do that on.
I also feel like look, I think we're gonna get more haptic-activated products going forward.
And we're all ready for our Ready Player One haptic suit.
I'm super ready for that, I can't wait for that.
Bring it on.
I'll just say for the record, I'm not a first adopter.
I'm a second adopter.
Not because I fear technology, but because I don't want to invest time and money into something that's going to die a terrible death three months later.
So this is not something that I would do right away.
I like to just order a bunch of stuff, have it delivered to my life and touch it in real life.
And then send it back for free.
All right, I like that.
That's my plan.
[CROSSTALK] So skipping on to laptop [INAUDIBLE].
Some experiences need to happen in [UNKNOWN] space.
Are we not in agreement?
That's very true.
I'm just worried on what they're going to use them for, lumpy laptops and so.
You know where that's going.
I know, I know.
We all know where lumpy
All is going.
We all know where everything on the Internet goes.
And we're ashamed of it.
Yeah, we all end up at the end of the day.
Alright, product number two.
You're in VR but you wish you could really feel you're there.
Still, it's all about feelings then.
So here comes Taklan with VR Shoot.
Here, as you're walking through your virtual world, you can
[CROSSTALK] those sandals.
[LAUGH] You can feel like you're on water, grass, sand.
They're old lady sandals.
Yep, straight up.
Man, Birkenstocks is rolling over in his grave.
Look at those things.
Okay, I don't want to make the Tacklim people, what's the name of set?
Yes, you got it.
I don't want to offend Mr. Tacklim.
So I will say that
That I'm sure someone somewhere thinks they're attractive somewhere.
My mom, my mom can't wait to rock those with some fuzzy slippers or maybe the toes where the tops of the toes that articulate.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah okay.
Okay so what are we feeling?
And apparently the, the mud feels quite real, pretty good.
Okay, all right.
Yeah a little squishy.
Can feel it kind of just pushing those.
I can imagine her going out with the game.
Yeah, yeah, destiny.
[CROSSTALK] Or scrabble underneath your feet.
I could, I mean I could see this in a foreign planet iteration, like on Halo, that could be kind of cool, yeah.
While you're fighting-
When I'm doing my Mars Kung Fu.
I think that we need to look for V2 or V3 when those things aren't so insanely sticking your foot into an empty soup can, but-
But I don't hate it.
All right, all right.
I don't hate it.
Don't hate it, I like it, that's a [UNKNOWN]
That was, yeah I don't know, that was not a faint breeze.
But I don't hate the concept, and obviously-
A faint in difference.
[CROSSTALK] early iteration of this product.
I think we're seeing a lot of VR, how could you feel like you're in VR?
They're just going with the shoes.
Yeah, and this is obviously a
Very early, early days.
Exponentially growing space show, okay.
All right, last one.
Finally we have-
I can't wait for this one.
You're in an office and you don't want people to hear you, how about the hush meme?
Bluetooth headphones basically for your mouth.
It's a voice mask.
It covers up your phone calls.
And people can't actually hear what you're saying while you're talking.
Other sounds will be projected out of it like.
Squirrel sounds, bird sound, they even have Darth Vader breathing.
I don't know why the squirrel but-
Just a squirrel bark?
Yeah, monkey sounds apparently, too, and rain.
Out of it?
Yes, out of it.
[CROSSTALK] can't hear you talking in it.
So again, when people wanna feel like they're having a stroke.
That guy's making squirrel sounds out of his mouth.
Do I also smell toast?
I do, I smell toast.
Cuz by the way, every day when I wake up, that's the first question I ask myself.
Do I smell toast?
First question of the day.
So also what's this product called, Hush Me.
For when you want to look like the gimp in Pulp Fiction in an airport.
You wanna be Bane?
Yeah, I'll be home at 4:15.
And that's so-
My train's been delayed.
I gotta tell you something.
I don't know what What is happening?
[LAUGH] That looks crazy.
It's absolutely bananas.
I don't disagree with the sentiment, because, again, you could be having high level conversations.
I mean, this is essentially real space, I can't think of the word cuz I am having a stroke.
This is deep space encryption.
You're encrypting your conversation in real time.
I like that,
But that's crazy looking.
And that guy right there, he agrees with you.
He thinks it's crazy looking.
He doesn't know what to do with his eyes.
His eyes are saying, just kill me.
He's saying, please help me.
Go, I'm waiting for
I think they're coming here and save me from these two crazy people on the [UNKNOWN].
Could they can tell me [UNKNOWN] here [INAUDIBLE].
That is it.
That's all the time we had.
That was super fun, you guys it was.
That was amazing.
What do you have going on beyond CES?
Well, I'm gonna see in touch everything within under CES for today, after which I will definitely [UNKNOWN]
And then I just directed my first feature.
Which was an incredible experience.
I really just finished it.
Within which technology played an incredible part because I had to shoot a movie in seven days for $200,000.
We shot it digitally, we could not have done it any other way, three area Alexa minis over a very accelerated, aggressive production schedule.
We did it in just a week.
And then I edited the film myself with the help of an assistant editor, and
Every part of my life has been immersed in some form of UI for the last nine months.
So it'll be exciting to be playing for a little while while I concept my next movie.
And then I'm also doing Whose Line Is It Anyway.
We're just shooting the bits in Whose Line Is It Anyway this spring.
I'm in the twelfth season of Criminal Minds, I'm in the seventh season of The Talk, and we are about to launch the eighth season of Archer, so that's all the other stuff I'm doing.
You can check me out in those things.
And yeah, and I also need a new phone.
So anybody else is, I'm hoping-
You might find one here.
Hoping someone flings a phone at me like a frisbee down on the floor, yeah.
Sounds pretty good.
Hopefully a haptic one.
Have fast reflexes.
Cuz they're heavy.
As we've established, I'm a merchant ninja.
Did you not, were you not-
No, I got it.
Thank you so much again, for stopping by.
It was great, thank you.
That is it for Ice Tyler.
We're so happy to have had her here.
A round of applause everyone, thank you.
Yeah, tell her thank you so much.
We are going to take a very quick break and when we come back, we are going to argue about whether you would rather have a flexible or transparent Television so stick around.
Welcome back to the show.
Thank you again to Aisha Tyler for stopping by our stage.
But now it's time to get real.
We have a bone to pick with some products that we see here year after year at CES.
But they just never seem to really break out of.
The trap of CES.
No, they really don't.
And not to name names, but we're totally going to name names.
A really good example of this is Laundroid.
For those of you who have product amnesia, [LAUGH] a lot.
Yeah, if you have product amnesia, we know CES is a difficult place.
It's easy to get assaulted with products.
This was announced in 2015.
But it's here again.
And it's still in development, we have a video we can show.
Yeah we have some Laundruid [UNKNOWN]
This is a, well that's a cell phone, but-
There we go.
There we go
This is something where you just dump your clothes into this massive closet and inside the robot is folding your laundry.
The problem is it still, after all these years, takes a long time to fold each shirt.
Yeah, so for one load of laundry you have to dump your clothes in there and it's an overnight thing.
Leave it to run overnight.
It takes about five minutes a shirt.
And it's not every item either.
Five minutes a shirt?
That's too much time.
Well also, can't even do every kinda piece of clothing.
Can't do socks.
Socks are too hard.
Can't do socks.
Not gonna match your socks for you, sorry.
I don't know if every guy knows this out there, but
Female clothes are just hard to fold, too.
So I'm sure it will probably like destroy our blouses.
A lot of it I just don't bother folding.
I just throw on a chair.
That's like basically my whole life at home.
I'm just like, I don't wanna fold this.
I mean, listen.
If I could have a folding robot that does that really awesome Japanese fold that you see on YouTube all the time.
Where people go, fold your clothes in two seconds
And then you do this thing and you match stuff, and all of the sudden you pull your hands out, and your clothes are folded.
But that's amazing.
If a robot can serve doing that and start folding shirts for me in quick succession, I'm in and I'll pay any price for that, cuz I hate folding clothes and I have folding my laundry.
But five minutes a shirt, not good.
And this company Just secured another round of $60 million in funding from Panasonic.
So this has been three years now it's been at the show and it's still not out yet.
I think they said this year or next year?
I think they just keep getting funding because we all want to live that dream, right?
[UNKNOWN] Full of dreams that we have Can't grab onto just yet.
I'm from Hollywood.
I know what broken dreams look like, and let me tell you, there are a lot of them here at CES.
So that's the thing we wanted to just sort of complain about.
But there's been a lot of stuff that we see in development all the time.
It just never quite make it.
They never quite make it.
Right, and I think that's a good transition into the other thing I wanna get into.
Our gadget battles.
We gotta have a good old fashioned gadget fight before we go.
Yesterday we asked you on Twitter what would you rather have in your future TV.
Would you rather have a flexible, ultra-thin screen?
Or would you rather have a transparent television?
These are like the important choices in life, you guys.
So we're gonna get to the Twitter answers in a minute, but for now Bridgett and I.
We used to have a minute, but I think we should up the ante and make it 45 seconds.
To make your case.
Pick a side, defend your case, and then you guys are actually gonna tell us who won by applause.
So get your hands ready to clap.
I need you to clap Please clap.
Please clap a little more for me though.
Bridget will be handing out checks if you clap louder for her.
The stakes are high.
There is a tiara on the line.
So, I mean, this is Vegas.
Vegas is full of sparkle, full of magic, that's, you know, the kind of show we have today.
That's very true.
So, I'll get the stopwatch ready.
Which side are you picking?
All right, I'm gonna go with the see-through tv.
You are gonna go with the see-through tv, you have 45 seconds, are you ready?
All right, with the see-through tv, all right so a bendable tv's nice and all but with the bendable tv, you've got that giant sound bar underneath of it.
The see-through, you have so much more options for your home decor.
If you wanna turn the tv off, you can put some [UNKNOWN] behind it.
You wanna put art, put art.
You can do that.
You wanna put a fish tank?
You can do that, too.
It doesn't have to be on a wall.
You can put it in the middle of your room like some sort of cool divider.
You can still see through it.
And forget screen savers.
Life is now behind it.
Life is great.
Put it in front of a mirror or not a mirror, a window.
Yes, put a window, see the real world.
Make sure it's still better than You got-
Five more seconds.
Okay, okay and yeah, nature is why I win, cuz nature's better than blank TV blackness.
All right, that was pretty good.
Those were good points, you can put in the middle of a room, use as an art piece.
I like it, I like it, those are good points, those are good points.
But not enough for me to concede, Madam, not enough for me to concede
I am going to.
Do you want to run the stop watch?
I can, if you want, I have it.
No, let's do it.
No, no, no, I want to be in control of the stop watch.
All right, ready?
Are you ready?
Flexible ultra thin TV.
First of all you can hang it anywhere.
It can go anywhere in your apartment, even if there's slightly curve wall.
You can wrap it right around, you can see in this footage is amazing this TV will bend just slightly.
You move it easily if you need.
Also if you're hanging it on your wall that's ultra thin you have more floor space for activities.
Which is one thing I really like, you don't have to put it on big ugly TV stands
Someday I'm gonna be able to roll up my TV and take it on vacation, and I really like that.
I think that's amazing.
And I think most importantly, I live in California where there are earthquakes.
Where the ground moves and things fall down.
And so I live in constant fear of being crushed by my television in my bedroom.
Five seconds, what, no.
And I never have to be afraid of that and I get to keep my TV because I would just pick it up.
It would just float to the ground.
I'd roll it back up.
[COUGH] Sound bar.
[COUGH] Sound bar.
Okay, thank you for your argument.
Aw, choking on sound bar.
I heard you.
All right, all right.
You want to look at the poll?
All right, yep.
Let's pull up the poll.
All right, let's poll.
what have we got here?
What are the tweets?
What are the tweets saying on the Internet?
I think the tweet, we have over 1000 votes and say thank you.
71% of the people said they'd rather, look this guy's like, no, wrong.
This guy in the [UNKNOWN] is like absolutely not.
Thin and flexible, 71% of voters with over a thousand votes.
I'm sorry, that does not seem possible.
There's still like an hour left.
So if you really feel motivated, you could find like a thousand people to help vote with you.
All right, what does the audience think?
Personally, at home, based on the arguments you've heard Is there more of you as a see-through TV or really thin, flexible TV?>> It is a see-through TV.
Aww, one guy.
You have one of people clapping for you.
Isn't a thin, flexible TV.
Let's all be honest.
And I take my rightful [INAUDIBLE] that says
Queen of the CS Stage.
I might not put this on just right.
Put it on sideways, yeah, put it on sideways.
I like to feel really, this is even better.
I'll just leave it like this.
It's so good.
I'm gonna put this on just a little bit, a little jaunty.
I'm just going to make it a little jaunty today because I won and it feels so good.
That is it.
That's it for our show.
That's not the end.
It's never the end.
That is all we have for today's show and it is our final show CES.
We will be headed back to separate coast tomorrow morning.
So, we hope you've enjoyed Bridget and I on stage this week.
And Bridget, I just wanted to say thank you so much for being such as great Host with me on the stage, you are-
Such a pro, and I'm just delighted to share the stage with you.
It's been so much fun.
Coast to coast.
You have New York and LA coming together guys.
New York and LA.
Until we go back home, and then we're like, West Coast, best coast.
We'll do that Twitter poll later
Well that's it.
Hit us up on Twitter to talk about the show, if you're so inclined.
She's Bridget Carey.
I'm Ashley [UNKNOWN] on Twitter.
And until next year, the Inhumane.
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