The 404: The 404 1,509: Where we live a life of vibroacoustic agony
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The 404: The 404 1,509: Where we live a life of vibroacoustic agony

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Investigating a cryptic, throbbing drone that's been driving people insane since the early 1970s, the FBI doesn't know jack about Internet slang, posting GIFs on Twitter, and how to make college slightly less awkward.

It's Thursday, June 19, 2014, I'm Ariel Nunez. And from our CBS studios in New York City, welcome to The 404. [MUSIC] What's going on ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for tuning into The 404 show. I'm Jeff Bakalar. I'm Justin Yu. Welcome to the program, ladies and gentlemen. It's a very special day. It's a special day because there's something going on right now that I hold very near and dear to my heart. That I would like everyone to know about. Dude, you have no idea what I'm gonna say. No. No clue. Not a clue. No? Mm-mm. All right. Ariel, switch over to my screen right real quick. Today starts The Steam summer sale, summer sale, summer sale. It had to be something I care about. Just doesn't care. This is cool. This is the coolest thing that happened during the year if your a gamer and you got a thin wallet. The summer sales start today June 19th and goes all the way thru June 30th. And holy crap, there are so many amazing games for such little monies. Right? Such little monies. Like, for instance, Devil May Cry, $13. Hm. I know you don't, it doesn't mean anything to you. No, I'm, I'm, I'm looking at the screen. That looks cool. I know it sounds crazy to you. But that game was 50 bucks yesterday. Yeah, really? Today, it's 12.50. huh. So, if you bought this game a couple days ago, you are butthurt, right now. Well, you shouldn't have bought a game, cuz you should have known. Anyway. Regardless. Look at this. Dead Rising 3, $38. I'm sorry this is what I get excited about. People who play PC games are gonna get really excited about it. The Steam summer sale just started literally 20 minutes ago and it goes through June 30. Head over to and I'm going to be tweeting some of my favorite you know games for great prices. Look at the Witcher 2 for $4. Nice. You could find that in couch change. Shouldn't they have done this sale during the winter while everybody is indoors? No. Why did they pick the summer to do this? Because nobody is gonna be inside. You don't know us very well. This is what we do man. Summer is all about staying indoors and avoiding that oppressive sun and the heat. And all of that, get out of the, get out, don't exercise. No. [LAUGH]. Go inside, enjoy Far Cry 3 for $7.50, why don't ya? You know what's weird is when you brought this up just now, I looked up Steam summer sale in Google and look at this. The first two most popular posts on Google come from and Wonder why that is? It's so weird. Why do the Christian Post and Christian Today people have such amazing SEO? I guess that's what happens when God funds your website. I guess God runs Google. That's pretty sweet. That's, that's what I learned today. What was goin on with Steam at E3? They announced some hardware. Nope. They didn't say anything about a Steam Box. No, so Steam Boxes are in a kinda limbo-ish situation right now. Steam Boxes are basically just, kinda like home theater PCs that run Steam, and run Steam OS. This says that the Alienware Steam Box was revealed at E3 2014. Well, it was revealed at CES. So what they're doing is, they're basically just making it like a Windows machine. It's very fragmented that whole thing. Uh-huh. And it's weird, because like the whole idea of like a Steam Box, is to introduce a main stream audience into, to Steam. So you know, when you turn on your console, it just boots up, and you're playing games. With a Steam Box, the idea that you turn on your computer and it boots up into Steam and you just play games. So a lot of people like Alienware are thinking, well why don't we just release our own sorta machine. And have it boot up into Steam and be done with it. There's a lot of weird stuff going on. The vibe at E3 was that Steam and Steam Boxes were kind of running out of steam, right? I know, but, not really. Yeah, that's how it works. It's just sort of a situation. So anyway, don't worry about Steam Boxes. If you play, if you play games on Steam, you all right have the means, so enjoy the summer sale cuz it just started. Cool. All right. All right. Yeah. Let's get to the stories of the day. We're gonna freak you our first of all. I know it's Thursday, but I have another scary, strange tech phenomena to talk about. Usually, we freak people out on Friday, on Freak-Out Friday. I know. Or Monday, right when they get into the office, but this is a special episode. We're going to talk about this weird sound that's literally driving people crazy across the world. And it's unexplained, we don't know where it's coming from. Okay. We can speculate, which is what we'll do, but so far there's no official explanation. Bet you the Christian Post has an answer. [LAUGH] Probably. Then we'll talk about the FBI's glossary of internet slang. Which you would think would be really up to date because they're the FBI and they, supposedly, know everything. But it's super outdated to the point of being really funny. Okay. So, I'll list off a few of what they think is modern internet slang. Sweet. I think you'll get a kick out of that. Then I want to, sort of, discuss this story about a new web app a brand new social network. I know these pop up every day, but this is kind of a smart idea. It's called Join U, and it's trying to make the experience of finding friends in college a little bit easier. And I don't know if you guys had problems with that when you first joined college but for a lot of people. Did you? Myself included. Yeah. You know you go to a new place, I didn't have to travel far from Southern California to Northern California. But, none of my friends went to SFSU so I had to make a brand new set. And that wasn't super easy. No. We'll talk about how Join You's going to make that a little easier. I wanna get to the bottom of that with you. Yeah. Then finally we'll sort of discuss a brand new feature on Twitter that was just released yesterday. You can now post animated gifs on Twitter. And it's funny, because we just talked to Giffy about how they are trying to take over the gifs. The apocalypse is upon us. So we'll we'll sort of discuss how they're gonna work their way into this new feature. All right, great. Let's freak out Thursday. Yeah, freak out Thursday. Doesn't really roll off the tongue. Not at all. But we're gonna do it to you anyway. So every once in a while I'll stumble across stories like these on the internet, weird internet phenomena that's unexplained. It was a lot like that weird Russian radio frequency. Oh, why would you bring that up? UBD76. I just finally, the nightmares just ended. For some reason, a lot of them have to do with how audio affects us biologically. Yeah. And it was the same deal with that story, the Russian frequency. And it's the same, the same deal here. This one's similar. It has a lot to do with a quiet super low frequency rumbling hum that's been in the media since the early 1970s. But it's been disturbing people recently to the point that they're literally going insane. And its pervasive across the whole world and this is the back story of it. And I wanna play a little bit of the recording, because we have a simulation of what it sounds like. But a large issue of why its sorta gone under the radar is because people can't really reproduce the sound. It's in their head literally. So, we don't really know what it sounds like to them, unless you're hearing it your self. Weird. But here's a simulation of what researchers have kinda come up with. All right so here's what the sound is. 'Kay. There's not a lot to it. Not a lot to it. It's a super low frequency. They say it's from three to 30 hertz which is very, very low on the frequency scale. It's described as sort of a low throbbing drone. The brown note. Similar to the Brown Note. It's, it's kinda the same deal, right? No. The Brown Note made people poop themselves. So the Brown Note is this theoretical frequency. Yeah, it's a fiction But it's along the same lines 3 to 30 hertz. You know, it's indiscernible to the human ear. You won't be able to hear it. You feel it, and with the brown note they say that you'll **** your pants immediately when you hear it. Right. I think that's been dispelled by MythBusters, actually. And South Park. And South Park, too? Yeah. They, they put that myth to the test. Well, that's where I go. Yeah, for all your, scientific debunking needs. Yeah. So it's affecting people in the same way. It's not making them **** their pants, but it's really. Unfortunately. Disturbing them. So wait, so like where does it come from? There's no, I don't understand where this sound. Like people just hear it all the time? Yeah. Everywhere they go? They hear it everywhere. It's weird because, I should stop describing it as weird, but that's just- It is weird. I keep coming back to that, it's very strange. It is weird. They hear it throughout the day all day long and it's louder at night time and it's louder indoors. You would think that a sound would get louder, if you didn't know where it was coming from, when you go outside your house. Cuz maybe your home would insulate you. But it doesn't. Is, is this like the, is this like deafening silence? Like, is that what it is? Is it coming just from, like, people being bored? It could be. Could be a ringing in their ears. There's a lot of speculation about where it's coming from. But people have heard it since the early 1970s all across the world. UK, Australia, Scotland. They hear it all across the United States. It's been reported in New Mexico, Texas, Seattle. In a lot of different places. I don't, I don't know man. I feel like people are just kind of hearing their internal body. And they're just Play it again. I want people to hear it. And you know it's funny cuz a lot of people that live in dead cities like New York for example. They'll actually play white noise that sounds a lot like this. Yeah, I have a white noise machine. And they use that to sleep. Dude. Meanwhile if you're in a quieter part of the country or the world, this is gonna drive you crazy. But white noise is like the best thing ever. I don't know what I'd do without it. And I, I, maybe yeah, I've become addicted to it. And it's tolerable because you are controlling the volume. Right, exactly, and like when I go away, wherever I am, I need the hotel room, or wherever I'm at to have, like, a fan in there or something. Yeah, or air conditioning. I'll bring this thing with me sometimes. You don't have just an app that produces No, the app doesn't do, the one I have is analog. It's just like a contained, sorta, you know, little cylinder. That has these, you know, mechanical parts inside of it that makes a noise. Wait, what? It's not a digital speaker? It's not digital. No. I have an analog one. Why don't you bring that in? I wanna see it. Here. I'll show. I'll bring it up for you. So, wait. Does it rub things together to make the noise? I don't understand. No, it's like fans. Okay. I'll show you which one I have. It's. Here it is, it's made my by a company called Marpac. Mm-hm. It's called the Marpac Dohm-DS. Wow. Dual speed. It's look like. I bought it back in. Something from the 70's. Yeah, I bought it back in September of of of 2011. It has a button. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] So it's got a, it's got a two switch control and the the noise it makes I can only describe as a whirling set of fans. Okay. It's so pleasurable. But there's no wind that comes out of this? No, but you could fee a little bit of air coming out of, exhausting out of the vents at the bottom. It's 50 bucks, well worth it. It just, it's got two speeds and it just, it's like a rushing air noise. It's like [NOISE] Is it battery powered? No, electric. Wow, okay. It's just matter, it's just matter. It's not cheap either. No. It's actually 50 bucks. But its so worth it, I mean, this thing's got four and a half stars from 4200 reviews. Holy crap. Like, this thing is where it's at, nothing comes close. Let me borrow this. No, buy one yourself. I don't want to spend 50 bucks. Spend $50. It'll fill up your entire studio apartment. Yeah, I'd like to, I'd like you to bring it into the studio so we can hear. I mean, you probably wouldn't be able to pick it up from the mikes, but I just want to No, you would. You definitely would. Oh, you can? I can't describe it. I, there's a point, where, like, I got to a situation where I was, like, you know, I want this to be louder. Mm hm. But then I just moved it closer to my head. [LAUGH] You fool. It's, and there's not like any radiation coming out of it. Right. It's just fans. Right. You know, unless you think you're gonna have, like, fan death, it's not a problem. That's the positive spin on it. If you're using it for something like sleep, then it's great that you're listening to it. Yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, a lot of these people that have heard the sound, they'd describe it as vibroacoustic agony. Right. Which I think is so metal, that's really metal. Vibroacoustic agony? Yeah. That's like a great metal band name. Strange, right? Yeah. They say it feels, when you hear it, it feels like fingers in your ears. Like someone is jamming their fingers in your ears. A lot of people have reported that they can feel vibrations in their feet. When they hear it, the floor boards in their house will begin to vibrate. At least to them. They think. They think. And then your ears start ringing. It causes things like sleep deprivation, and stress, headaches. And then three people, at least three people in the UK in the early 90s ended up committing suicide as a direct result of this sound. I don't know, man. So let's get to the possible theories. Because there's one thing the internet is good at, it's speculation. Yeah, but I want a theory from a scientist. Okay, we'll talk about that. I don't want a theory from some dickhead on a forum. So, if you go to This website, basically, cull reports from people around the world that have, basically, banded together to map the, all of their suffering. So, here you can see where all the locations, people have reported on it, are. And, this is also where a lot of, the theories [INAUDIBLE] as well. Okay. So I think the possible theory that people have come up with is tinnitus. Right? We've talked about tinnitus on the show. It happens when you listen to music too loud. That's high frequency. And your ears. But that's high frequency, exactly. Hm. So that sorta dispels, this theory. Another thing is a lot of the regional hums. And that's the problem, is, people hear it in different places, so it's hard to link into one central area. The regional hums have been linked to mechanical sources. So, for example, in west Seattle, according to this article, it says, the sound ended up being a vacuum pump. Used from cargo ships in the nearby bay. And so when they replaced those silencers, it ended up getting rid of the noise. But that's just one. You know, this comes from so many places across the earth. Could be from a million different sources, but the best theory that I think is probably the cause of it is low frequency radio waves. We talk about those a lot too on the show. In terms of are these radio waves becoming radio active and destroying us from the inside out through cell phones in our pockets. That's like What? Right I mean you heard those low frequency radiations. Is this going to be damaging to our health from the cell phone? But radio waves? There's nothing wrong with radio waves. Yeah. Well usual, I think with most people that's not a big issue. You won't notice it biologically. Some people, unfortunately, are more prone to hearing it than others. I don't know, the only thing I can tell from this map is that it happens where there's a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. So that is not. That proves nothing to me. So steel plants can be offenders of this. Military aircraft, for example, anyone that emits a high volume of low frequency waves could be at fault here. I don't know. I'm just not feeling this, man. Just not buying whatever they're selling. You don't like? Oh, it's not like you're disturbed, you're just. I just don't, you know believe them. I believe them, but there is an explanation for everything. Yeah, yeah, it may be very well different explanations for different reasons to. And the fact that there's no regulation, like this could a million of different things too. Right. This could be what happens to some guy in Nevada. Could be different than what happens to some guy in France. Right. Here's, here's another creepy part of the story, though, Go on. That could really freak you out. And this is how it connects us to the real world. A hum in Connecticut that's been reported on for the last 20 years. A lot, there a lot of speculation and conspiracy theory here so take it with a grain of salt. That the hum had been connected with the shooting in Sandy Hook. Oh, get the [UNKNOWN], get out of here. To the point that state police investigators are actually conducting an investigation right now. On the fact that a hum that's been produced, this is a fact, it's been produced by natural gas pipelines. They may be speculating that maybe this could have something to do with Adam Lance's behavior before the shootings. That's, I mean, [CROSSTALK]. Either way, it's terrible. It's enough to make the police launch an investigation about it, and that's the report in the news, so... Well, fine, but, you know, I mean come on. That's crazy. Let me read you another sentence. Oh my God, read me as many sentences as you want, it's all a bunch of. This one, I don't know, I haven't looked into, so I'm literally just reading this straight from the article. They also try and like get frickin' mediums to tell them what the hell is going to happen. Yeah, you can choose not to believe this stuff, I'm not saying I agree with [CROSSTALK] No, I'm saying like police officers, and like. There's a. They have to investigate everything. There's a weird, you know, history of, like, supernatural military and government, sorta, experimentation. Sure. Oh yeah, like the, the open ended nature of this article is, it makes it really easy to speculate. Yeah. And conspiracy theorize. But, listen to this, Aaron Alexis, there's a defense contractor named Aaron Alexis. Who, in 2013 shot and killed 12 people in the Washington Navy Yard. Okay But, they found afterwards, that he was battling with mental health issues. And the shotgun he used to kill those people, he had scrolled my ELF weapon into it. Which is electro low frequency electromagnetic radiation. And he told psychiatrists that he had been chased by those vibrations. And if you look at a map of instances like this in Washington for example. A lot of those coincide with the cluster of people that report on the hums. So, I don't know it maybe those low frequencies were something else, maybe they were something only he was hearing. Or, maybe. But he did carve that into his gun. And is blaming it on that, so it just be sorta like a Red Herring, right? He might be using that to blame it. So who knows? I think, I think we're just finding out that, like, a lot of people are not well. Right. That's maybe what it is. A lot of people do hear this hum, too, though. You were telling me in the pre show that sometimes you hear strange noises coming out of your TV. Yeah, but it's, but I know exactly where it's coming from. What is it? That, like, there's, I, for whatever reason I hear like, the compression. Mm-hm. I can hear, like, the very tinny sorta compression that audio gets when it goes through your cable box. Hm. And I just hear, it's almost like this electric sorta yeah, I can't describe it. It's almost like, it's like a sci fi toy in a weird way. It's just very random, and the tones are just awkward. That's what, I hear it. It, I remember there was like a very pronounced version of it during like, the Grammy's one year. Like, the broadcast of the Grammy's had it, and people were saying I can hear weird sounds on Twitter. But that's, I know where it's coming from and I know, for the most part, what it is. So, that doesn't vary from TV to TV? No. Is it more about the broadcast? Pretty much the broadcast. I can just hear this really high frequency that like lays in like. You know it's like a subtle sorta thing, that. Hm. Comes from the, the broadcast. I remember one time Steve Gutenberg was on, we tested your hearing. It was a long time ago, back when we were in the old studio. And, I member, yours said that you had a really excellent hearing for your age. When I, I don't know if we did it on the, the show. But, he gave me this thing and it said I had like, a nine year old's ears. Weird. It's weird. And, I, I been on, like I used to go on tour with bands. Yeah. I don't understand that. I dont' know. Maybe you have a career in. Hearing ****. Valentines. No. Really? I don't think so. Wouldn't make me talented, makes me sensitive, is what it does. Like I can hear everything, and it pisses me off. I can hear like, I can hear like, you know those really high frequency things that kids use to have? On their cell phone to like, so they would hear a ringer, but no one else would hear? Mm-hm. I can hear that. Right. Oh, that's strange. I can't hear like a dog whistle though. That's crazy. But I can hear like a deer alarm. Huh. Yeah. [LAUGH] So weird. I know. I'm not happy about it. This is like, It's like a useless superhero. It's, yeah. It's like the ability to grow, like, like Meg on Family Guy. [LAUGH] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grow your fingernails. Really. That's the worst. That's the worst power ever. Did I ever tell you about the time I went to get x-ray's on my chest and the doctor told me that I had the largest air capacity in my lungs that he's ever seen? In like 13 years. Yeah? Of of practice. My lungs can hold more air, in his opinion, than anybody else. But it was weird because he described it as a potential to hold more air so you can train yourself to do that. Yeah, you could, you know what you could probably do? You could probably be one of those guys who does like the. Hold your breath underwater? Yeah, like the competitive deep sea diving thing. [LAUGH] Yeah, he was like, you can either do that. He actually brought that up. Or he was like, you'd probably be an excellent swimmer as well. Yeah. Hold your breath the entire pool or something. Yeah. But aside from that. Pointless. Or you could smoke like fifty cigarettes. At once. I mean, you'd still get the cancer, but you'd hold more smoke in your lungs. Yeah, yeah. Holding more smoke in your lungs is probably some kind of skill. Yeah, no, that sounds like a great power. [LAUGH]. Between you and me, we don't have a, a quarter of the coolest superpowers ever. We'd save zero lives with those powers. Oh wow, there, here comes really great hearing guy. [LAUGH]. And super breathing dude. [LAUGH] You can't see him. But he's breathing really deep right now. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Oh god, that's so stupid. Alright. Let's move on before we creep everybody out. Again,. Take that with a grain of salt. Right. It's probably just like some radiation plant killing us from the inside. Yeah, that's all. That's all. It's fine. alright. Let's move on here. So, it's funny, we use internet slang a lot on this show. I try, personally, not to use it too much in real life. 'Cuz nothing is worse than hearing a teenager say LOL. Right, that's terrible. But it's hard to deny the fact that internet vocab is sort of this constantly evolving language. [INAUDIBLE] vocab is that? Vocabulary is that. You just abbreviated the word, vocab, in real life. Is that not cool? No, it's not cool. Alright. The next thing you know, vocab leads to totes. [CROSSTALK] Yeah that's totally different. No it's not, dude! People have been shortening vocabulary to vo, eh, whatever. [LAUGH]. It's a constantly evolving language. That is admission of guilt right there. [LAUGH] Unless you're constantly exposed, you're going to fall behind the trends, right? And then you're going to end up saying things like vocab I guess. Yeah and totes. And that's what things like urban dictionary are for. I guess. If you really cared and wanted to look it up. But. It's funny. Even, I don't know, your parents grasp of internet slang is not nearly as impressive as the FBI's. Who, like I said in the intro, you would think would know it all, but that's not the case according to an eighty three page glossary labeled Twitter Shorthand that was recently exposed to the public thanks to the freedom of information act and the whole thing was posted online in pdf format. So, essentially, this is what the FBI uses to decipher things that they read on the internet that everyone in the FBI may not understand. But this doesn't mean that this is like their first tool in the internet war on terror, right? No. Maybe not. Like, they're not. There, I mean this is just like, you know, their internal glossary that they have. Right. But you gotta expect this was passed around to everyone in the FBI at some point. I guess. And it's, it reads like a primer to sound like what you're talking about on the web. Okay. Because it's true. So like use the, yeah. [COUGH] If you're under, yeah if you're undercover and posing as a teenager, maybe you should use stuff like this. And by web I mean, quote, instant messages, Facebook and MySpace. Which is what they say is the best application for these. okay. I like where this is going. That's probably the first sign of it being outdated. So, they include words and acronyms that they think are significant, including the number of times that they've seen these words being tweeted. A lot of them I've never heard before so I thought we'd go over some of them. And I think it's funny, because. Can I guess with you, can we try and do that maybe a little? Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, things things are, sometimes it appear as obvious as you know, stuff like BFF, right? Sure, yeah. Everyone knows what that is. Or, things like crunk, or people that say "hella", which, I think you actually said, yesterday on the show. I think that's far worse than vocab by the way. No, it's not! People. Yes. It's way worse. That was like the first time. You're not even from the Bay Area! You can't even say that. I just got back from the west coast, man. You don't say that in LA! [LAUGH] How do you know? When was the last time you were in LA? [LAUGH] Bay term man, total Bay term. How would I know? You know everyone in LA hates. Doesn't that worry you? Well I was hanging out with Gamespot dudes the whole time. And guess where they're from? I should have called you out on that yesterday. I thought about it. I got a freaking duo of jackasses in my presence. [INAUDIBLE] jackasses from Jersey saying hella. Anyway it also says things like cute, you know, K-E-W-T. [INAUDIBLE] And then there's weird ones too. Acronyms I think are the strangest. Okay. So one of them is dilligad. [LAUGH] D-I-L-L-I-G-A-D. Dilligad. It appeared 289 times in tweets. Dilligad? Dilligad. It stand for does it look like I give a damn? [LAUGH]. [LAUGH] Wait, what? Yeah, it's enough to where 289 people who probably all know each other and were trying to get this off the ground. Have said. After five letters, it's not a thing. [LAUGH] yeah. Right? After five letters, you just gotta say the sentence. Yeah, yeah. What about. Giwist, or giwist. Spell it. G-I-W-I-S-T. God I wish something? Close, it means, Gee I wish I said that. Very strange. This is so cringe worthy. Yes. I like naked in front of computer. NIFOC. I think I've heard that before, yeah. I've actually heard of that, yeah. 165,000 tweets, it's one of the most popular. But a 1,065 tweets is not a lot at all. [CROSSTALK] Considering there's like billions a day, I feel like, it's crazy. Sometimes I feel like they're just trolling. They knew that someone in their future from outside the FBI would read this. And they're trolling them from the past, like this one. PMYMHMMFS@WGAD. But like it means pardon me, you must have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. Hi, my name is actually Justin and I come from California. Yeah, they're totally trolling us right? And I like WAPCE. You read that? No, what's that? Women are pure concentrated evil. Well, that's crazy. [LAUGH] I don't like, this one. This is crazy, BTDTGTTSAWIO. Yeah. Like what, like where in the world would someone have written that? And then someone else been like, oh yeah. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, that means been there done that, got the t-shirt. [LAUGH] And wore it out. What the freak, man? This is nonsense. Where's cream on here, right? Yeah. I, I feel like that's like the best acronym. I don't know. It's better than, I don't wanna read this. BOGSAT, which is bunch of guys sitting around talking. Alright let's throw this story out the window. Yeah, it's not funny. But like that's, that's what I don't get like you, you, do these things like lol took off cuz just everyone sort of. It's like simple, it's a palindrome, everyone got it. Yeah. And it just spread and it was easy and it was very, cuz that's something you do all the time. You don't necessarily laugh out loud but it was a. It, it, it, it caught on because it was just a way to express a simple feeling. Right. And it was short and to the point, and everyone got along. We all agreed on it. We were all like, okay, this one passes the test. [LAUGH] I feel like there is still times when people mess up. Even the simplest acronyms. Like have you ever seen that photo of a screen shot, that somebody posted on the internet from their mom? It was a text message, and the mom was like. Your great aunt just passed away, lol. Right. And the kid is like, why are you laughing at that? And she's like, oh, I thought it meant lots of love. Right. Things like that, I'm sure happen all the time. No, I know it happens. Which one do you use the most? Probably lol. You do man. Just as like a passive-aggressive thing. [CROSSTALK] I don't like how much you use it. Just so they know I'm not serious. I almost never. Never use it. That's cause you don't like to laugh. But I sure as **** use hella. [LAUGH] You use, no. You use hella? Don't! That's the first time I probably said in in like six years. Yeah. Right? I guess so. Yeah. That's why it was strange cuz I never heard you say it before. Yeah. God forbid I change up my vernacular. [LAUGH] Alright last one of the day. Questions ****. what? I'm not. I'm all for the word hella spreading man. It catches on. Like when I first moved to San Francisco, I hated the term hella. But then after all, you just hang out, people say it all the time, it just happens. You stopped saying it though. I never hear you say it. Cuz no one in New York says it, you know? Exactly. Like, it's when you're around people that say it, and it just comes out. [CROSSTALK] So the reason I was saying it is cuz I was hanging out with Beecham so much and he can't stop saying it. Yeah, I felt like I would have said it, but. I didn't want to be like a Bay Area poseur when I moved up, so I was afraid someone would call me out and be like you're not even from San Francisco, you can't say that word. [LAUGH] We don't have an LA word. You can say whatever you want. I know, I just think there's some words you shouldn't say. Yeah. You can say whatever you want, like no one up here should really say y'all. What's the what's the east coast thing. Oh, I know jawn is something. That's like a Philadelphian thing. Jawn? Yeah, people from Philadelphia say jawn. Which is j-a-w-n, and it just means thing. Oh, yeah that joint or something like that. Yeah, [UNKNOWN] Thing like anything. Like, hey pass me that jawn. No, I don't know, I don't know that. What about Jersey? Is there anything? No. There's just not. No slang in Jersey? There's gotta be! There, I mean if it is, it's just so pervasive that I haven't noticed it standing out. What about like when I, when I got back from hanging out in, on the west coast. I brought back, for sure? Like, just people just don't say for sure as much as people out west. Really? I mean, I say it a lot, and I just can't delete that from my vocabulary. No. But yeah, for sure. For sure. What about fo' sho'? People say fo' sho' out there. Yeah, they used to. Back in the day. Oh, fo' sho'! Is that a regional thing? I thought that was a Bay thing too, but I could be wrong, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I know, people from the East coast don't say rollie pollies. What the freak, what? Do you know what rollie pollies are? I'm going to take a guess. Is that cops? No. [CROSSTALK] That is a good guess. That is a good guess, I like that. Excellent guess. [LAUGH] Good show. I don't know what it does mean, but that's what it should mean. [LAUGH] Watch out for the rollie pollies. I like that. That's way better than what it actually is. You would want to say, you would want to get that. It'd make so much sense. But you would want to get that message across. Quicker. At first I thought it was because you were referring to how fat cops are, which I guess is the rollie part, but then po also works well too. [CROSSTALK]. Well you say like, po po. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Or like, [INAUDIBLE] five o. [INAUDIBLE] reference. I like that. Or, like, the 5-0. So what does it mean though? Rolly pollies are basically those pilly millipedes, like insects. Oh, get, what? What are we talking about here man? Yeah. But, I forget, of course. [LAUGH] Of course, you know what I'm talking about? How stupid of us. Yeah, but I forget. They call them different things on the East coast. I think they just call them pill bugs. Dude, we don't have all these little words for insects. Weird, yeah. That's what we call them on the [INAUDIBLE] Oh, is that a west coast thing? [INAUDIBLE] rollie pollies? Yeah, I think somebody. Have you ever heard that before? Yeah, I still call them rollie pollies when I see them. Yeah so you know what I'm talking about. Those little things. I just used the term this morning. Yeah. Oh, you did? Yeah because my little sister in law, killed a bug and I was, like, oh, I think that's a rollie pollie. Wait a minute. Yeah, no one knows what rollie pollies are on the East Coast. Then why did you guess that it was the police? Because I thought rollie pollie was so obvious that it, they're using a slang term [CROSSTALK]. Yeah, yeah, totally. I thought it was obvious, too. [LAUGH] I'm glad it was a guess. I told someone on the East Coast, like, oh, there's a rollie pollie, and they reacted like Jeff just did. You know, like, what the hell are you talking about? [LAUGH]. Print out a picture of it [LAUGH]. Rollie pollie? Rollie pollie. It's like literally something I think I've said for 25 years of my life. Yeah. You learn it when you're a kid. I don't, there's not even like a link here, oh here we go, eww, these are gross. We don't have these. Yeah, what do you call them? Pill bugs right? We don't have these, that's what, that's the reality of it. Bring that up there. We don't have them. Well, that little rollie pollie there. Ew, that's gross, we don't have them. We don't have those, that's why. [LAUGH] Rolly pollies. [LAUGH] They're weird. So that is very strange. We don't have those. Rollie pollies, weird bugs. Wait the only thing, the only vernacular that we have in New Jersey that no one else does is mischief night. Oh, that's right, that's right. [INAUDIBLE]. That's where you go around and like kill people for one night. Yes that's when we murder people the night before Halloween. The purge. Yeah. Right, that is it. And no one else in the world has it. It's a date, oh yeah, you said its the day before. The night, the night before Halloween. I got married on mischief night. Oh, okay. When I'm looking here, people say blow out is a New Jersey thing. Blow out? Oh, that's like that hair style from the Jersey Shore, but that's not really all of Jersey. [CROSSTALK] Yeah. That people use. Bubbies? You ever heard of that before? That's a Jewish thing. Like your grandma, if your, is your bubby. Oh no, no, that's not what this says. Oh, it doesn't? No, no. That says this. Oh, no, you're talking about boobies. No, no, this has bubbies. I don't know what that is. B-u-b-b-i-e-s, and in Jersey that apparently just means the female breast. Did you just search Google for something stupid and got. Yeah, slang words in New Jersey. Oh get out of here. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Bubbies. Oh, okay, yeah. You guys have your own slang, just in your crew. Well, no, that, no, no, no. Bubby is like, a Yiddish thing. Oh, okay. That means, like, most Jewish people call their grandmothers Bubby. Mm-hm. Yeah. It's not. They do say some weird stuff. What, Jews or? [INAUDIBLE] No, no, your. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a different kind of vernacular that you just don't wanna. That's a whole different show. Worry yourself about. alright. This is going great. [LAUGH] What's next? We talk more for, about rollie pollies. I could spend a while on a word I've never heard. [LAUGH] alright, last one of the day, it's an app called join you, and the explanation's really simple. It's just getting off the ground, it's a start-up, you can download it or join on the website right now. It's basically what the Facebook started as. It's only for college kids. And it's to help incoming freshman find friends to hang out with, even before they start their first day of college. And students can sort of filter by what dorm they're in, or what their major is, their interests or there is even a tender style feature were it pops up like a random person from your grade will pop up on your screen and you can like it. This is cool. Yeah. You can post activities of things that are going on around campus, and I think individual universities probably have their own app where you can do this stuff too. But now this ones a central that everyone can post on, also for things life clubs and greek life and post and advertise, exactly what they do. And it's getting really popular. I wanna know if any high school seniors or college incoming freshman have joined Join U, since its April 15th launch so it's relatively, recent. 20000 high school students have already joined Join U. I mean I'm sure this is great, and I'm sure it's a great way for people to meet. Yeah nothing to, criticize here. Yeah I'm gonna. I feel like college prepares you to live on your own, right. That's what I got from college. Uh-huh. Barely any educational stuff. Uh-huh. Maybe besides a few film courses for me. Right. Right. For the most part it was about, this is how people live on their own and do things and interact with people. Right. Right. And meet new people, and that's what I did and that's. That, I, I.>> [CROSSTALK] Yeah. It made me a better person. [CROSSTALK]. And that's. That's basically what they're encouraging people to do, too. They're not making it too easy. Once you find people on an app, you still have to, meet up with them. Right. But, I still think there's like some awesome angle to the whole going out and venturing out and seeing what the world has to offer. Yeah, I agree with you on a certain level. I, I think all the friends that I still have, like some of my best friends today are guys that I've met in college. Yeah. But it took me a while to meet those guys. Why is that? Because I felt like for whatever reason my network wasn't big enough. Like I said I didn't come to SF with a lot of friends from LA, so I had to sort of leapfrog, right, I would meet like a certain set of friends. I didn't like them that much but I hung out with them, through them I met another crew of friends that I then hung out with for awhile, and it was only after a few more jumps that I finally found the crew that I was like, okay, these are the guys I want to hang out with. That's so funny, that's what happened to me. Yeah, I think everyone does that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you sort of. We settle. We settle for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah you settle for a little bit, like these friends kinda suck, but I'm sure they know some cooler people. [LAUGH] Oh my god, that's totally what my freshman year of college. I hung out with like maybe eight kids and I'm like, you guys aren't gonna be my real friends. And you probably don't talk to them at all either. Not at all. Not at all. I just knew the whole time, I'm like man. I'll, you guys will do for now. Right. But there's a whole lot more waiting for me in this big wide collegial world. Introduce me to the friends that you guys don't have that much in common with. Yeah. Maybe I'll make new ones. But you do it quick. You're like alright, I can deal with these people, for now. Right. But I gotta really make some moves. Mm-hm. And that's what I did. And then it wasn't until like, end of my sophomore year. Yeah. It wasn't like, okay, you guys, this is going to work out. Yeah, I wonder if. It's not mean. There's no stigma with meeting friends now online first and then meeting up after. I did meet, I met two girls online, before I got to college. On AOL. Through AOL's chat rooms? Yeah, no. I think, I think one of them approached me because I had put in my profile that I was going to this school in 2000. Uh-huh. Can you search AOL profiles? Yeah, I think so. There's, there's no way, like how else would they have come across my, my name. So, I would get random IMs from a decent amount of people from that, entering class of 2000 and then one girl who reached out to me I'm still really good friends with. And is like one of Stacey's best friends. Oh, okay. Yeah. Relax. I was like continue, that can't be the end of the story. The story has some highs and lows but yeah, it's, isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's cool. And so you guys technically met online even before. Yeah. We met online. Uh-huh. Not too many dudes though. I'm not very tight with a lot of guys from college still. More women. I'm sure there were college message boards, maybe on the E D U website or something that people used to meet up on but. Yeah, definitely. I guess Join U makes it slightly easier. I would use it. I'd just get on there. A lot of the friends that I've made at SF State I didn't even meet, they didn't even go to the same school. Yeah. They were either out of school or went to a different one cuz it's a pretty small university. So, I think the majority of the friends I made in college during those years were in the city. Mm-hm. Just outside, hanging out and stuff. What about you [UNKNOWN] did you make a lot of friends at the state? I made friends at SF State, but it was hard at first. I think, mostly, I made more friends outside of the school. Like, you know. I worked at Nike Town. I made a lot of friends there. And then at SF State, I was, they had a hip hop club and I was in that. And I made a lot of friends there. I think the key is just finding like, like minded people and knowing where to find them. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. It is kind of nice making a whole new set of friends when you go to college though, cuz I feel like before then, you're only friends with the guys that you had growing up with and didn't make the choice to hang out with. You know like, you knew the guys since kindergarten or something, because you grew up together. But I guess you do make a choice. But you wouldn't necessarily, you know, make friends with them now if you had just met. Do you think you had friends like that in high school? Well, you don't, I think that's an interesting way to look at but, I mean, my top ten friends are all high school friends. Oh, really? Hm. Yeah. Or before. I think the majority of my friends I hang out with now are in college. Yeah, just, you know, however it happens. Right? Yeah. I mean. They're just waiting for you to abandon them as well. [LAUGH] Yeah. For my CNet friends. For your new CNet computer friends. [LAUGH] And then we just wanna talk real quick about Twitter getting animated gifs. Oh, right, right. That's the thing now, but they kind of did it in a smart way. You have to hit a play button. Mm-hm. So, you have to hit a play button to start the GIF, so it's not like you're just gonna be scrolling through. Right. And you're going to see all these, for instance, animated Carlton dances [LAUGH] like we're seeing right here. God that's so good. But yeah it's, you have to hit the play button. Right. So that's a big, so that's good, they figured it out. And it loops still after you play it. Yeah, they they magically made it work. So, good for you Twitter. You finally did something people like. I also happen to like the new typefaces they're using. I feel like Twitter and GIFs go together because. Short and sweet. Both are advertised to people that have short attention spans, exactly. Wait, what were you talking about? [LAUGH]. If you"re already on Twitter, then you probably only want to spend five seconds on it. And you want to get the information as quickly as possible and GIFs, literally five seconds and you're done. Well I would argue that like, a still image is the shortest thing. Yeah. You have, it's less information. You just look at it? A GIF is more information than a still, is it not? I guess so. I got you there M'er F'er. I don't even know but shoot us an email, the Alright? Please do that. I'm off tomorrow. I'm back here Monday. But luckily the show is in very capable hands of Ariel and Justin. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit. Send us in a fake Tinder profile photo, a thingy, and you might win almost $200 worth of free stuff. What do you, what do you got? You're about to say somethin'. Just say it. No. I can see it in your mouth. [LAUGH] Yeah. You're, like, you're. The words are, the words are, like, trying to get out so bad. What do you, what do you, what's on your mind? No, I was just, I was looking at some of these GIFs, and I think some of my favorite ones are the scary GIFs. [CROSSTALK] You know, normally GIFs are always hilarious. Yeah, no, they're either like you know cut from a horror movie or something like that. Oh, I don't like that [INAUDIBLE]. Or they're like, crazy like gross ones like this, like the guy holding a bunch of bees in his hand. See, this is, you're. Look at this one, this guy raises a toilet seat and a bunch of spiders come out of it. Why would? All kinds of, no, it jumps on his foot! But look at that! [LAUGH] [LAUGH]. But why would they? Did you see that? I did see that. Keep watching, the GIF loops, you could look at it forever. Okay, cool, great. Why was he filming the toilet? Oh, maybe there was, he saw it. He saw a spider and was like, oh, I bet there's more. Look how many spiders! That's all kinds of no. Man, you know what I just realized? Like the stuff you like to watch is what, was what like Malcolm McDowell's character. In A Clockwork Orange? In A Clockwork Orange Alex? And what people are forced to watch in like The Ring. Yeah, probably. Yeah. And then, and then they go crazy after. Right, it's just, it's like you like watching the brainwashing stuff. Right. Yeah, yeah. The faces of death ****. Where they'll just be like a new born baby and then a decaying corpse. Right. And like, that's. Highs and low's, man. That's what the show's all about. That's literally our tagline That's why you hear the brown noise all the time. [LAUGH] Okay. That's it for us, guys, have fantastic Friday and all that and I'll see you guys Monday. You'll be all right without me? Yeah, we'll be cool. It'll just be an hour and a half of disturbing GIFs. [LAUGH] Excellent. All right. Until then, I'm Jeff Bakalar. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Ariel Nu

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