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The 404: The 404 1,473: Where we put kidding aside with Scott Aukerman
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The 404: The 404 1,473: Where we put kidding aside with Scott Aukerman

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Scott Aukerman returns to the show with a preview of the upcoming third season of "Comedy Bang Bang," the newest podcasts on the Earwolf Podcast Network, and how he dodged the Secret Service during his interview with President Barack Obama for "Between Two Ferns."

It's Monday April 28th, 2014. I'm Ariel Nunez from our CBS studios in New York City. Welcome to the 404. [MUSIC] Animation. It's beautiful. My goodness. Welcome to the 404 show ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jeff Bakalar. My guess today he's smiling, he looks kind of looking like an anchor- Hi Jeff. Hello Scott. How are you? Pretty good. He's the low- Hello America. Hey, and other countries Cuz be internet. Internet is worldwide from what I understand. It is. It's like a web of- Tubes? Yeah tubes Magic tubes I, have they dug up all the tubes that connect the internet together yet? No, they did, no that was the ET cartridges. Did you hear about that? Oh I did hear about that. I did hear about that. Yeah, that's what they dug up. We're gonna be talking about the ET cartridges during the show. Going really in-depth and do it. We're gonna play the game. We will. For about three hours. [LAUGH] We'll live stream that. It's gonna be a real interesting show today. My guest really needs no introduction. No let's just go on. If you've ever listened to the county bang bang podcast, or have tuned into the IFC show of the same name. It's premiering this May 8th. This May 8th. This May 8th [LAUGH]. [LAUGH] Not the next May 8th. It's probably gonna be on the next May 8 too. Season three. Yes. 20 episodes. 20 episodes. That's a lot. That's amazing. That's like one more than 19? Some would say. Mm-hm. Season three debuts Thursday, May 8th, 10:30 p.m on IFC. Oh, let's be honest, 9:30 Central. [LAUGH] No, we live in the now. Okay. Okay [LAUGH]. This is where it counts, on the, on the right coast. Scott Aukerman, thanks for coming back to the 404 Show. Hi, Jeff. Oh, my pleasure. Yeah. You have a new studio since I've been back. Since I've been here, you have a Poison Ivy statue. You like that? And I guess a Riddler statue next to it [CROSSTALK] So, you're trying to do both Batman and Robin and Batman Forever. Is that? The Batman corner. Yeah, it's nice. Right there. I like it. A few video games. We have to light it a little better. Mm-hm. Because the Batman corner is not getting the light that it usually needs for showing. Well, he operates in the shadows. see we thought we'd get away with it. Yeah, I understand. So Scott criminals are a cowardly lot. They are. As Batman once said. [LAUGH] Of, of course, I remember it as a little skewed. Mm-hm. The way they used to shoot that. So Jeff. Bring it Scott what do you have? [LAUGH] Have you ever put together those Back to The Future legos? Yeah, we actually had someone do that and then we took it apart. Hm. And then put it in the box it came in and just shook it up. It looks good, you know. And you have two of the back to the future things, Lego and regular model car. Yeah. We can talk about the set for hours here, right. I'm interested in where this is gonna go. You guys are more interested in our conversation I bet. Yeah, no I'm, I'm, I'm intrigued cuz we have lots of guests on and no one gives the set the time of day. Did you personally put everything here or is this some producer's idea of what nerds would like. That's a great question. It's a combination of the two. Really. So what is- I don't have- [CROSSTALK] personal. I don't have a more interesting. Like I'm not sure- Back story. Is this, is this just some, like, guy going [SOUND] Family Guy I don't know. [LAUGH] It is. But then the thing next to it is that like Oscar the Grouch? That seems a little more personal. I'll be totally honest with you. Meanwhile you have no U-turn sign. [LAUGH] I don't know what that's doing there. Well and you have yield behind you. Traffic signs are crazy. They are- And you would know. That's true. I'm from L.A. [LAUGH] What were we talking about? Hey you got me. Besides Batman. You were introducing me and taking about this may 8th, the tv show coming out. 2014. Yeah 2014. Yeah, 20 episodes. 20 episodes to coincide with the 20 part of 2014. Right. I like how you work it back in there. We thought about doing 14 but then we were like no. People wanna see 20. Believe in some sort of consistency there. Yeah. Do people know what the show is? I think they do. Would you like to tell people a little bit about it. Sure why not. Comedy Bang Bang is a fake talk show. It's more of a sketch show in the disguise of a talk show. Sure. So it's a lot like this where I would be doing what you're doing, which is hosting. Right. And we would have a celebrity which is ostensibly what I'm doing right now. Are you playing that role? Yes. And, but then we also have comedians playing fake characters. Okay. So it's turning the talk show format on its head. Which is a position it does not like to be in, so it's very uncomfortable. Well you're like,you're scripting a talk show. Well we, you know what's weird is we don't actually script the whole thing. We do a lot of improv. Oh okay. Right on. Most talk shows when you go on. You know, Conan or Letterman. They actually are scripted. A lot of it, they seem like natural conversations, but the guest always kinda script out what they're gonna say. Sure. Our's is very free form and unscripted. So it's actually the more real talk show that you could ever actually have. So you're actually redefining talk show. Yes, yeah and the definition is. Crazy. Is it? Yes. Surreal. Yes, surreal. Mr. Surreal. Yes. It takes reality and then does a twist on it making it surreal. Someone told me that this season. Who's this person? It was probably this faceless, you know. Who is this mysterious. Man or woman? Can you narrow it down that way? Cuz I wanna really figure out who this is. I'm gonna say it's, a man. Hm, okay. Yeah. I have an idea. I think his name is, his last name is Daily. Daily? Yes. Huh, Andrew Daily? Nope. John Daily? Nope. We could go through. Okay. I thought it was maybe, the guy who owns IFC. No. Henry Ifca. [LAUGH] God no that wasn't him. Yeah wasn't him? No. Okay, but what did this guy tell you? Yeah, it was Andy Daily. Oh, it was Andy Daily. Yeah. Oh, very good. He said that, cuz I had mentioned to him that you were gonna come back at some point and he said, That, oh that new next season- Oh that new next season Surreal Oh, oh, oh, boy, so surreal So surreal Oh, Mindy- [LAUGH] With respect to Robin Williams so, so I remember watching a bunch of episodes last season, and there was one episode where Christopher Merloni was on and he, you shrunk them down. Literally we did. Yeah. We created- In a lab. Freaking technology for this television show. Specifclly for- Yeah, we haven't shared it with the rest of the world. Selfish. Yeah. We could use it to cure cancer. Like look this is our thing. Right. Okay. It would be interesting to use shrinking technology to cure cancer because then you could have like little dudes running around in your body with laser guns. Well that's the whole idea. Well that's the whole idea of like micro, you know organ- Nanotechnology? Yeah, that sort of like bionic technology. Nanotech. Yeah we can talk about that for hours but instead let's move on to my TV show. [LAUGH] So you shrunk him down and injected him in, into your ally inner space. That episode, every episode has a different plotline. This is gonna be more surreal. It's, it's more surreal than that. That particular episode was I had a cold- Right And he played a doctor who shrunk down and injected himself into my body to eradicate the cold. Logically. But we have a lot of really weird ideas this year. We have in this second episode have you ever seen the movie The Last Starfighter? I'm guessing from some of this decor you know if it. I've heard of it, I haven't seen it though. Okay it's am movie from the 80s where a guy beats a video game, and that video game was a training simulator for this alien star ship. And so he becomes a star ship fighter. Right. Well in our episode. Reggie defeats the piano. Reggie Watts is my band leader. He defeats the piano and is so good at it, that actually all ADAT's correspond to a alien star ship, star fighter. Okay. And so he can take and by this alien race. Is to go defeat the evil oppressors upon them. Meanwhile he gets switched with a body replica. Just like a mannequin. So we have a very stiff body replica as my band leader for an episode. That's just one episode, we change, in the third episode we have someone gets murdered at the top of the episode and we have a who done it kinda clue style. But the show must go on after this. Exactly. Where Jason Alexander plays the investigator who comes in and tries to narrow down all the suspects. We're doing a 60s black and white episode where I get hit in the head and I travel back to the 1960s and do an Ed Sullivan type show. [LAUGH] We had a musical episode, we had a sliding doors episode where, which explored alternate realities of [UNKNOWN] time made my bus to the show and if I didn't. So we're, we're constantly trying to experiment with the forum. It's pretty excellent, Thank you. It's all over the place. Mm-hm. This whole list of celebrities, A ton of celebrities this year, we always get huge people on the show. Yeah. This year Patton Oswalt, Craig Robinson Skateboarder Tony Hawk, Josh Groban. We have Jenna Fisher, Fred Armisen, Zac Galifianakis. Just a ton of people actually on the couch and then great comedians playing characters. Right. So, we have Kate McKinnon from SNL, and Vanessa Bayer, and Taran Killam from SNL. Bobby Moynihan. Andy Daly who you mentioned and just a lot of really great, funny comedians on it. Excellent. 20 episodes starting May 8th. This May 8th. This May 8th, again. We can't stress that enough. We can't. Look, if you're looking for May 8th, 20, 23 for this show to start. You're way off it. You're gonna be disappointed. You're way off it. It is this may age. Seriously, stick with the programming. Yeah. Get with the program. Exactly. I mean, it's early, it's four months. What is there on your computer? You keep looking at it. I have notes. Really dude did you just, there's no notes on that. Look at that that's notes- You're just playing a game. I am not playing The Last Starfighter here don't worry about that. Okay, were gonna play a clip of comedy bangbang's staring Patten Oswald. Yes Patton Oswalt, good friend, known him for 20 years. And he's on the show and we get into a conversation in this clip about an audition that we both recently went on. Okay. Check it out. Here is Scott's interview with Patton Oswalt. So Patton, you love all things nerdy. Are you excited about the new Star Wars movie? yes. I am. I really am. And oh, actually, no. I shouldn't jinx it. What? What is it? I read for a part in episode seven. No way! I read for a part in episode seven. The script is really good. It's good. Legitimately good. I was amazed, the title, Star Wars Episode Seven, Boss Nass is Back. Watto's grandson, such a cool character. Great character. And I love how. In the opening crawl, they have the line, "The taxation of trade routes to outlying star system is once again in dispute. Is once again in dispute [CROSSTALK]. Oh, man, I can't wait to see how that comes out. Oh, my, so what part did you audition for? Darth Helmet, it's a, it's a parody of Dark Helmet from Spaceballs. Yeah, that is the part that I auditioned for too. They told me it was down to me and one other guy. They told me it was gonna down to me and one other guy. So wait, wait, wait. One of us is gonna be playing Dark Helmet in the new Star Wars movie? [MUSIC] Aw, no. These movies are gonna suck. They ruined it again. Thanks a lot J.J. Wait, what? Not. [CROSSTALK] [MUSIC] So there you have it. You clap a lot? You have a condition that forces you to? Yeah. Star Wars Episode what? This is episode seven Seven. Yeah You and Patton wound up auditioning for the same role, For the same role, yeah. Was that embarrassing? Boy oh boy, it's so tough when you're fighting against a friend, I'm sure, that sort of competition can tear a friendship apart. It can, but luckily we made it through. Are you, in real life, a fan of Star Wars? I, you know what, I love the first three movies. You have to understand. You have to understand something here. I haven't. But I was seven years old when the first one came out. Okay. You're talking about episode four. Episode four. Yeah. I was prime, just ready for something like that. Sure. My parents talk about how we went to we went to go see it probably like two months after it came out. It wasn't like today where you'd see everything the first week it was out. Right. We'd heard about it and heard about it for two months. Finally found a theater where the line was around the block, but we were able to get in. And, I saw it, it just blew my mind and my, my parents said that I was imitating having a light saber. Outside getting into lightsaber fights with my brother. And then I, those first three movies, episodes four through six, I was just so into it. And I got the Star Wars comic books, and the novelizations, and read Splinter of the Mind's Eye, and. I don't even know what that is. That's a novel that's kinda set in continuity with Darth Vader. Okay. And then those, those new three came out. Hm. And I just was like I guess I'm not into Star Wars anymore. Kinda negated what happened with the first three. Yeah, right? It's like Star Wars is kinda wash now. So I, my parents because they know how into Star Wars I am like every Christmas they get me Star Wars gifts. To this day. To this day, I like Star Wars Legos or stuff like that. And I keep having to tell them I don't like Star Wars anymore. Right. But think J.J. Abrams might get me back into Star Wars. I don't know. It might be good. It might be good, I just don't think it's right to give him power of now Star Trek and Star Wars. Yeah because they used to be at odds. They used to **** heads a bunch. And the Trekkies and the Star Wars, what do you call the Star Wars people? The Star Warzers. Just all that? Yeah. Just all of that. Okay. Star Warsers and the Trekkies, they never got along. Trekkers. They never got [LAUGH] along at conventions. They would always have foam fights. They would always catch further glances at each other. Exactly. Did you say foam fights? Yeah, they have like foam stick fights and stuff. I don't know. I never had a foam fight before. You haven't lived yet. What was the Trekkers? What, out of where, where were they in corporate foam? Well they would be defenseless because the Star Wars, the Star Warzers? The Star Warzers, of course. Right, they would have their phone lightsabers. Hm. Beating the, the crap out of the Trekkers. Interesting. Interesting. I think it's trekkies. Well, no, they do, they do not like to be called trekkies. Yeah. That is what the world at large which apparently you are not one of them. I guess not. That's what the world at large calls them. They prefer trekkers. From what I've understand. From what you've read. But these things change. But do you think it's fair to have J.J. Abrams take over both sides of that Look, I don't think it's fair- Fiction. But I also think life is not fair. I know. And I think it's something that you need to get used to. Oh, I'm very used to it. Okay. Yeah. All right, I mean, you're a guy who apparently. From what I've heard about you, there was a guy who talked about you to me, he said you're a guy who's willing to sit behind a pole at a Broadway show and not a move a seat. And not even complain after. Not even complain. Just take, I, it's called humility. Hm. That's a lesson I need to learn. I don't know. I think you're doing fine without it. Thank you. You are. [LAUGH] alright, so you're here in New York promoting Comedy Bang Bang. I but you know, I would come regardless. You would be here on vacation. Yeah. So, you're getting both. Sure, I'd come by the studio you know if I'm just hanging out. Well I hope you follow, make good on that. Okay, I will! you, you live in Los Angeles? I live in Los Angeles, yes. That's where I, I have a residence there if that's what you're trying to get at. You have a home there, you make a home there. I do, I, I spend the majority of my time there if that's what you're trying to say right now. Yeah. Which I believe it is, Okay. It is, it is. So you come out here in New York. Do you, do you have an issue with here? Do you favor one city more than the other? Well the, the very fact that I live in one, above the other. Sure, but that's for you know. It's not just for work purposes. No? No, I would probably live in Los Angeles. Even if I didn't have to. Okay. I mean, I love New York. I'm out here a lot, but. Right. It's just, it's, it's so much. So much better. Is it? Oh? Is, is that what you. Okay. Well, I said, that's what everyone thinks, I mean. [LAUGH] Someone, I was walking down the street. I don't wanna brag, but I was in Times Square. [LAUGH] Lucky you. [LAUGH] And You, you lost a bet and you had to, save it. And I was walking down the street yesterday and this woman behind me said people in New York are so ratched. It's funny I wrote that out. I wanted to talk about your tweet. You tweeted that. Yeah I tweeted that. What is, what is ratched mean? Ratched apparently, from what I understand it means not dope. Not dope? Yeah. I can't even wrap my head around what that means. Yeah. So, Not cool. Not, Well I, here's what I think. Okay, you know how slang words, how they spread like wildfire. Sure. I think she, I don't know that she necessarily was using it correctly. As much as she New cool people have started to say that and she really wanted to get it in. So she, she almost had like a sense of pleasure like ooh I get to say this word. Right. In Times Square of all places. Yeah. And she'd been trying to fit it in in some conversations to her friend and she didn't you know, didn't really know if it was applicable. eah. And so then finally she got, like someone bumped into her or something and she was like oh, I'm gonna use it right now. Here it comes. People in New York are so ratched. Little did she know. Yeah. She was auditioning. Mm-hm. For your twitter feed. That's right. And oh it was so delicious. That wouldn't happen in LA. Only in New York. Only in New York can you say a sentence and someone tweets it sarcastically. That is it. Mm-hm So what I, so we still haven't wrapped our heads around what's. So ratched means I think so. I think she just, you know, is frustrated by how many people are there. Now, I, what's interesting about her is she was in the middle of Times Square so I think she was saying people in New York are ratched, but she really means all the tourists [LAUGH] who are there, so really the people who aren't from New York are who she was saying was ratched. That's confusing. Yeah. It's a lot to wrap your brain around. And her, herself being in Times Square Makes her a ratched Exactly. Well, I mean- It's a paradox. Yeah, take a look at yourself. Seriously. Get yourself together will you please ma'am. Last time you were on our show, Scott, you, you opened up a little bit about the show you put together with Zack Alafanacis called Between Two Ferns. I opened up so hard. You did. We all shed tears. We had to hold hands. Yeah. It was an emotional time for everyone involved. It was. It really was. Boy that was great. But anyway that was then, this is now. That was then, this is most certainly now. You said to me I asked you if you could have anybody. I Remember this of course. Do you really? Yes! How? It was a while ago. Well still, it was memorable. I didn't remember. I had to go back and watch it. I was like, what did we talk about that night? You go back and watch your own shows? When I have, when have a guest coming back. Interesting. How often is that? Had to have people coming back? Yeah, how often do people return? Including you? Mm-hm. Two. No, I kid around. [LAUGH] Of course you do, you're the best at it. What exactly did I say? I asked you, if you could get anybody on between two ferns. Mm-hm. Anyone, shooting for the stars. Sure. You said President Obama. You did. I did. Yeah. Right. You said it. Justin was there. You said it. That came true. It came true. I should say stuff like that more often. Well, here. Cuz everything comes true. Yeah. But, that's amazing. All kidding aside, that is amazing. Let's put kidding aside for one moment. [CROSSTALK] Let's put it on the show. We love kid. We love to kid on the show but we need to do for this particular question is just put that aside. Suspend your disbelief. Sure. For five seconds. For five seconds, and just be in the moment. Right. And put that aside, and then, let's be serious, in this moment right now. Well last time you, you had fun with the segues and now you have [LAUGH] fun with idioms and cliches. I like that about you, Scott. But yes, it was amazing is it? So, can you describe the process I i'm assuming it was pretty. It was. Thorough. It was less thorough than you would expect. Yeah. It was very, I, Zach and I kept thinking it would be more thorough. Because you know, when you're dealing with the most you know powerful person in the world, you would think the checks and balances, there would be a lot of them and it would be hard to kind of get anything done. Put it in that government, in there. Yeah, and from what I understand it is kind of hard to get a lot of stuff done. But they were intentionally, for this project, being very hands off about it. Yeah. Because we said that we would only really want to do it if it were kinda like a normal episode of Between Two Ferns, and so they very, very cooly, they were very protective of our process. And wanted it to be like a normal episode, so when we had all the jokes that we wanted to do, Zach and I the whole time we're kinda going they're gonna cut this stuff out, or they're gonna say hey the President won't answer this. And they let everything through. It was, it was crazy. And when they saw the video before it went up, Zach and I were like man they're going to ask us to cut- It's going to be a lot of red tape. All this. They just said oh wow, it's a masterpiece and they put it out. I mean, it was, it was, they were so easy to deal with and I think that's one of the cool things about the video is when you saw it, it wasn't, it didn't seem like a thing that was put together by a focus group or. Right. Or the, that The White House, kind of had their fingers in and were trying to control, and try to control a media appearance. It really was just like the show we wanted to do, and we put it out, and yeah I think it became popular because of that, because you couldn't believe that the president was going through that kind of situation, and was, was not being controlled in it. [LAUGH] Sure, exactly the mold of the show's so well. It felt dangerous. Right, it felt like at any moment someone you know, to me that's whats the craziest thing is that, at the end of the day, the president, you still got him to act. Yeah. So in that to me is the biggest sort of wow. I directed the president. How did that work? He was. You know when I, when I went there. I I was very, I, I didn't know what the process would be. Sure. And I was kinda like I, I said to one of his handlers, who is in charge of the room and, and going to be in charge of the interview. I said am I allowed to talk to the President? You know, I literally, you don't know. Of course. The answers to things. Like, you, I just imagined in my head that I would say cut and then like approach the president and be tackled by secret service guys. Right, he would [INAUDIBLE] someone and you'd be done. Yeah you know, so that's what I imagined in my head so I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't gonna like charge the president or anything that was not allowed. Right And they were very much like, yes, you can talk to him, but why would you? [LAUGH] And I said, well, you know, to direct the video. They said oh, of course but what would you need to direct. Right, right. I said well, you know, in case we have to like, redo something. They were like, yeah, of course. But what would you need to redo? I said I if he gets something factually incorrect, like the, the phone number incorrect. And that made sense to them, they're like oh yeah of course go, go right up to him? But like you know they're not in, they're not in show business. Direction right- Yeah, so in their mind it's just an interview like he would do with Brian Williams- Right because would Brian Williams stop the president- [CROSSTALK] And say hey you need to redo this, we need to take a take two or something, no they wouldn't, so they are not used to that, but it was, it was just really kind of an interesting situation going up and kind of giving notes in a way, you know and it, it was, it was, it, he was so into doing it and so amenable- Yeah. To the whole situation, it was really a pleasure to do. Was it, sorta, how did that go? Like were you like Barak, I mean Mr. President, could you do that again, would. Very, very oh. Very oh, I mean how did that work? It, it was, it was scary to do, but I mean I was there to do the video. And like I said the, the white house wanted it to be like a normal situation. So I just kind of had to. Zach and I just had to put that aside. And Zack had to put aside that he's talking to the President and act and. Right. And be really funny. And I had to put aside that it was the President and just go up and try to make the best video I could. Sure. So, it was, you know, we both were able to do that and, and surprisingly and it, it came out really well. That was, that was kinda like the next thing I, i'm curious about. Where, you know, Zack says something to the President that are, way out of line, over the top. Yes. So, did he struggle with that in a way? I think he did, I think Zack was very nervous. We, we were both very nervous about it but I think Zack in particular couldn't believe what we were doing in a way. What else is there now? Right, you know it's like. Yeah. He whom what are we. But he couldn't, he couldn't believe to an extent where he kept kinda of psyching himself out of it. Going maybe I better not ask that because they're gonna cut it out. And I kept having to say no, no Zach, they want us to do this. They want us to do this video so you have to, do it the way that you normally do it. He kept going yeah but they're not gonna let it come out. They're gonna like squash it. I was like, no, we're here. We're at the White House, you need to. It's okay. Yeah, they want you to do this. So it, it very much was we, we were both kinda nervous about being that irreverent to the President, but you know obviously you can tell when you watch the video, he was able to dish it out as much as he was able to take it. So, you know, it was really fantastic. It was a better experience than a lot of the Hollywood stars who end up doing it in a way. Says a lot. Yeah. For sure. If you haven't seen that video, we talked about it when it came out. Make sure you do that. Did you? We do. We covered that. Thank you very much. For you, Scott. Thank you. Just for you. So you land President Obama, the most powerful person on Earth I want you to predict the future again, for us on the show. Who do, who do you go after now? Well we've, we've done the most powerful person, and you've said it, on Earth. On Earth, on this planet- I think, and this is my prediction, I think that we'll soon be invaded by an alien race, who will be much more powerful than us. And will enslave us. The world economy will be turned upside down, money will no longer mean anything because we'll all be one race who are- Slaverist. A slaverist, yes. Color skin will no longer mean anything. Countries, borders will no longer exist, we will all just be slaves to our alien masters. And, but the one thing that I think will exist will be between two ferns. And, like, interview style. Yes. And, and we will interview floor acts the alien leader, and it will unite humanity together, and we will conquer the aliens whom have, slaved enslaved us. And it will be the thing that turns the tide in the insurrection. It's great that you'll be able to maintain that show and production and, that's the guy we gotta get now. Exact. Well, Funny or Die will still exist. Sure. So, I mean, like, even aliens like voting Funny or Die on an internet video. [LAUGH] Right. The landlord will still be around. Excellent. All right, as long as you're thinking to the future. Mm-hm. That's what I like to here. Thank you. You're involved in a lot of other pod casts on the Earwolf Network. I got turned on to one called, U Talkin' U2 To Me? yes. With with Adams Scott. That is one that I co-host, yes. What's that about? And why do you, you really like YouTube that much. Okay, well here's the deal. Let, let me tell you what the show is. The show, the show is Adam Scott from Parks and Recreation. Yeah. And I. And Smirnoff commercials. [LAUGH] Has it been doing Smirnoff commercials? [CROSSTALK] All over these Smirnoff commercials. Really? And I can't tell if it's, if it's him, and can you ask him this? Sure. Because- You want me to call him up? Well it's, if you want, it's fine. We got all day. Be like why- Whatta you wanna know? Why, is he playing Adam Scott or is he playing a character? Lemme see. I don't think that Had been transparent enough. Are you playing? Yourself? It just auto corrected to are you aging? Yeah I'm just going to send that. Are you aging, yeah. It doesn't seem like you could tell what he's doing. That'd be nice. Doesn't seem like you can tell what he's doing, is it Adam Scott drinking Smirnoff or is it another devilishly good looking man. You know what, I'm getting the sense that you'd rather be talking to Adam Scott right now No, I'm talking about your podcast that you host for them, and I'm also questioning your love of U2. Well, we'll get the sense of if he's aging or not very soon, but what happened was Adam was on my show, a comedy bang bang podcast once, and we got into a conversation about his growing up. Okay. And the music he liked. Right. And he talks about U2 and I have all their records and like them I've seen them a few times. And so, we kind of connected on that. This is like three years ago. Okay. He then got ahold of me recently and he said hey, do you wanna start a podcast where we talk about U2? And I was like, "we just talk about U2? The band?" Yeah. And I think he remembered that conversation we had, and then he told me later, he said, "Look, my wife doesn't like U2, she's tired of me talking about them at home. [INAUDIBLE] I, I'm on U2 message boards, but I don't want to post," [LAUGH] so, I have no one to talk about this band with. I'm, I'm excited cuz their new record's coming out. Do you just wanna do a podcast where we talk about them for an hour each week? Right. I was like, okay Adam that sounds interesting to me. That's all it takes? That's all it takes. So I, I own the network. So, Right. So we started this show, which is ostensibly we were going to review all of U2's albums. And it very quickly became us just messing around doing bits. Right. So if you, if you don't like U2 it is actually a podcast who don't like U2. Right. Because if you go to iTunes and you look at the reviews the U2 fans hate the show. They find it in an iTunes search because they're searching for U2 and they're favorite band, what's new about U2. They hate it, the, thereviews are really funny. There's all these one star reviews that are just like not about you too. Warning warning! Because we, we literally will talk for an hour and 15 minutes before we ever get to talking about you too. Right. Which as a comedy podcast, it's really, really funny, but as a U2 podcast, it is a major failure. [LAUGH] Super misleading, yeah. But, but it's, it's been really fun. It's actually like, I love Adam and he's so funny and I'm not sure if he's aging or not. We haven't gotten, he hasn't gotten back to me about it. But anyway, we'll find that out. So it's funny that you bring, cuz that's kinda what I wanted to get to, how it is not a YouTube podcast. What, someone said there was a bit you guys did where where it was kinda a like, they're awaiting their latest record and you find out during, was it during the episode? Well what happened was Adam and I, we heard that their new record was coming out in March. Yeah. This was back in December, I think, and we said, hey, let's do six episodes of this, and the last episode will be their new album will of come out, and we'll review their new album. It was just suppose to be six hours, basically, six episodes. Sure. And, so we did the first couple. And then found out after the first two or three that the album is delayed indefinitely. [LAUGH] And so the podcast then went off the rails and now we have to fill so much time because it has to be a weekly thing and we said we're gonna do it until the next record comes out. And they say it might not come out til next year. Yeah. So this is just us now, we have to meet once a week and stall. [LAUGH] And we're running out of records to talk about, we're doing a whole episode just on Spider Man turn off the dark, that's how desperate we are. [LAUGH] To stretch, like the red charity thing, you'd really have to, Yeah it is, yeah I mean we're just looking for select, you know, we're, or maybe gonna talk about you know, did they do a Simpson's episode? Like we're so- [LAUGH] Struggling. We need topics to talk about. So in any case, yeah, we're just kind of like, the last episode that just came out comedian Paul F Tompkins comes on and ostensibly there to talk about what he thinks about U2 and we never got to them. [LAUGH] So it's two hours of us just messing around and but it's been a lot of fun. I think it's a really funny show. So go check that on, out on Earwolf and as well as, there's another show that hit home with me for my Hatred of the band Phish. Analyze Phish. Analyze Phish with Harris Wittels. Yeah, that was, that was, that's another podcast that we I do very sporadically. But that is Harris Wittels who's a comedian. He opened for Louis C.K a lot. He's a writer on Parks and Rec. He loves the band Phish. I don't understand these people. He's very weird. He's like an Ivy League educated guy who loves the band Phish and travels around following them. Oh, men. Which I just didn't get. And I thought that so interesting that we should do a show where, that show is, he tries to convince me to like the band, Phish. And I don't like them. Right. And he keeps playing me songs, and I don't like them. It just sounds like my entire high school with my friends. Exactly. But somehow, it turned into a really funny show. Right. And he actually has convinced me to go to two shows, which we've recorded. We recorded a Madison Square Garden show a little while ago where, I went and took probably five or six types of drugs trying to get into fishing and it didn't really have any kind of effect on me. And then we recorded one at the Hollywood Bowl a few months back. Which we're gonna put out pretty soon. Spoiler alert, the drugs did have an effect on me. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] so we'll see if I like fish by the end of that one. It's your, I'm always surprised as to the, the demographics that you find. Mm-hm. Of this show, you have the dreadlocks. Right. And the bald guys. But then there's like the people who kind of, especially at the Hollywood Bowl one, who just kinda work in show business,who like my friend Bart Coleman, who's the, the booking person for At Midnight. Okay. Just like a really straightlaced dude with glasses. And he follows them everywhere, and I just, and he has, he has a wife and child. Yeah, it's a sickness. It, he would rather follow fish around than spend time with his baby. That's insane. It's crazy to me. I never understood. They, they kind of wine a lot, the band. Yeah. And they talk about flowers and frogs and stuff like that a bunch. Yeah. That's more than I know about them and I've been doing this show. [CROSSTALK] And you've been to a couple of shows. Flowers and frogs. Yeah. It would surprise me if they have a song called Flowers and Frogs. Then they go into these like 12 to 35 minute sort of mindless, spiraling jam sessions. Mm-hm, mm-hm. Well, I, I, we go and do it in the Hollywood Bowl episode, which will be coming out soon. All right, I'll be sure to check that out. Just the, the jam sessions and their purpose. I'm glad there's one thing you and I can agree on. Yes. Thank you. This sucks. We finally found it. There it is. Like, man, this has been really testy between us. Go on with my day. I know, there's a lot of hostility. Very combative. I think so. Yeah. Finally, we're on common ground. Fair enough. Thank you so much for being here, Scott. My pleasure. This is a pleasure Follow Scott on Twitter @ScottAukerman. And obviously this May 8th. This May 8th. Thursday, this May 8th, at 10:30 p.m on IFC you can check out a brand new season three. After an all-new Maron. Did you, did you guys **** heads about time slots with that? How did that work? look. I'm looking. Marc Maron butts heads about anything. So I'm sure we did, I don't know. But watching [LAUGH] an all new Maron, an all new episode of Marc Maron. I'm not sure if you can, if you'll be emotionally ready after he plumbs emotional depths. Yeah. The gulch. To move over to my crazy wacky show. But I hope you are, cuz it's a good pairing. Excellent, and you're the headliner. Yeah, well you know, the headliner always goes last. That's what I said. All right make sure you do that. Thank you so much again for being here. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure Scott. I shall return. All right, wonderful. Thank you for doing that. Thank you. Still no message from Adam. It's all right you'll. Hm. Email us later, we'll be in touch. Send us an email the404@cnet.com. Reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook and blah, blah, all that. Anything. Tender. That's a new one. Reach out to us on Tender. Please Most people do [LAUGH]. alright. Snap chat us. Temporarily if you will. Thank you guys for being here. Thank you. We'll see you guys tomorrow. I'm Jeff Bagalow. This has been the 404 Show high tech low brow. We'll see you guys tomorrow. [MUSIC]

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