[MUSIC] All right, let's move on to cloud services and stuff like that. Yeah, cloud. So we talked a little bit about Steam, is there any service you use that's heavily cloud based that you can't live without? Besides Netflix? I mean, Right. That's the obvious one. Yeah. Besides that one. Well Dropbox. [CROSSTALK] You use Dropbox? Yeah man. I don't, he does I guess. I'm a big Dropbox fan. I was looking at you. [CROSSTALK] But I know a lot of people who do use it. It's sort of my fail safe. So you pay for it? No I don't. I mean it's free. How much do they give you for free? Enough for me to store all my [INAUDIBLE]. Gotcha! Right. You can store media files of movies or photos, but as a writer it's valuable to have. For the writer I don't hear anything. I only read stuff. No! It's a great place to secure your files somewhere else right? Wait! Are you working on a novel or something? Yes man! Aren't we all? We're writers right? Wait! You don't have a book deal? Come on! No. Everyone has- Really? We all do. We all have book deals? No me. You're behind the curve. Okay. Okay. What about you, Ben? What's a I got this. That's all you need. [LAUGH] That's the only cloud you need to be hanging out on. [LAUGH] This'll put me right in the cloud. Speaking of which, what is your sort of end all cloud? Service thing. Like, for me, Google Docs is a huge part of my work life, and my personal life. Are you guys attached by the hip with that? Well, no. Yeah. I use Google Docs constantly. That's definitely helpful I've started looking into this service through Amazon. If you're a Prime member, you can download, you can put in the cloud, an unlimited number of photos. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I actually tried to [INAUDIBLE] Google is great. This is a problem. Why'd you do Amazon. Because. I don't know. Prime customers- Did they compress the file? I don't know. Google does. Now Google would- But the Google compression is not- It's not terrible- I still think it's like 8 megapixals- Yeah. It's SLR quality photo shooting- Yeah Needless to say, when I tried to take, apparently I have 17 thousand photos that I have stored on my laptop, and I tried to move them onto the cloud, and my computer basically was just like, 'nah, I don't feel like it." Computer's like, hey, this ain't happening. Look, I'm the mid-2010 model, you think I'm working that hard? I'm not going to do it! I've got senioritis. I've got four more weeks on the clock and then I get pension. So you are gonna throw me in a dumpster.>> Yeah, Im gonna recycle. It didn't work, so I really like this idea of backing up my, Look you asked me the question. So it didn't work [CROSSTALK] I can use Google Photos, but I feel like it's going to hiccup all over again. It took me like ten days to upload all my photos. So, you did them in batches? No, I just had it running for ten days straight. Wow. You've got to set it up for at least a weekend. And you get unlimited? Unlimited. Okay. > Do it. It's the best. Granted, it will be selling ads based off of your photos, but, whatever, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because, at this point in my life, I've got baby pix. I had you know all sorts of. Food photos, food photo's [CROSSTALK] coupon we're sending you. We would be very upset if we lost the photos. It is very important photo's. Of course, you're not gonna lose them. You don't trust google [CROSSTALK]. No I'm saying I want to store them in the cloud. I want that backup. So there was a Cloudfone that you saw. Yes. The next- The next Robin. What what that? Next Robin. It's a crazy phone that was a kick-off sort of projects. Sort of a kind of a Cloud source thing. It uses the Cloud for storage. So it kind of 32GB. I might be wrong. [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. But once you exceed that point it starts to off load stuff. It automatically off loads apps, photos. Things that you know that you don't actually use that often. [INAUDIBLE] app in the cloud is a little suspect. I saw them off load Spotify right and then as soon as you. It gets grayed out in the phone. You tap on it and it re-downloads really quickly, all the settings are saved, everything's logged in. You don't have to re-log in to anything, it's as if you never really deleted it. So what does it run on? Where's Android. And they've worked their technology into that. So the reason why [INAUDIBLE] got a bunch of hype was because the key founders were all a part of the original Android team. Okay. Ooh. So they have the institutional knowledge of Android, so they know how to kind of work the operating system and kind of maximize It's a [UNKNOWN] and they kind of used this cloud architecture as the big selling point. So how's it doing? I have no idea. It's not, it's not, how old is it? You know what? It's about a year old at this point. It came into Kickstarter. It was, got a ton of hype. People were really- Right, it's a pretty phone too. And it is a really nice looking phone. I mean, I think it's done well for what it was. But it's a very niche product. I mean, it's going after people who are like Super, super hard core about androids. because it's basically a peer entered experience with the cloud. It's ok for what it is. It is totally a niche product. How much space are you getting on the cloud [CROSSTALK] It's almost a terabyte I think. [CROSSTALK] that's a lot more than you can cram onto a phone. It's a huge amount of space, I don't think it was a full terabyte. A massive amount of space. Still, that at least justifies the concept of a product. Right. Well- If you were gonna get like- It's funny cuz, as a reviewer- 256 gigs. Trying to like, I was talking to Jessica, review the product, it's tough to review a phone that's, you've got to intentionally cram up phone- Yeah, you have to confuse it and put through its paces. Yeah, so it works okay but the thing of it is Or actually if you've got 32 gigs of storage, it's hard for you to fill up that storage. Yeah. Really, after a one month, or even a two week review period, so. That sounds like one of those weird bridge products where it's like, yeah, this makes sense, but we're just not totally there yet. I mean, I do think that that's Sort of where things are going. I think phones eventually will start [CROSSTALK] cloud. For sure. As a default. But our network connections aren't there yet. Right. If you're outside of your connections body and you need to download that crucial app that's in the cloud somewhere and it's like busy signal. Yeah, it's, You're gonna be pissed, right? Yeah, you're gonna be upset. There gonna do that. How is Apple supposed to price gauge us? [LAUGH] Right? How's that gonna work? You know, like, you gotta think about that, first. I don't know. They could. they could do the same thing, though, right? They could offer cloud storage but they could charge you this huge price. Charge you $20 a pop. For the privilege of our cloud services. [LAUGH] They're fine [UNKNOWN] [INAUDIBLE] [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO]