Ep. 1315: Where we have no McShame

-Hey everyone, it's Tuesday, August 6, 2013. You're listening to The 404 Show on CNET. I'm Justin Yu. -I'm Ariel Nunez. -And I'm Bridget Carey. -Hey, Bridget. Feel like someone your [unk] -Oh, really? -So, in the pre-show, we're all snacking on Ariel's strawberries. -Wait. -Let me-- Let me just put some contacts there. -What? -Ariel gonna pretty sweet delivery today. -Yeah. -He got a couple-- He got a box full of chocolate-covered strawberries. Check those out. Best film, so yeah- -You can never go wrong with chocolate-covered strawberries. -Yeah. -That's awesome. You wanna give any shoutouts for that Ariel? -Shoutout to my fiancee. -Yeah. -What-- -That's right. -Thank you. -So, you guys are celebrating your last fake anniversary for the real one, right? -I feel bad because I did not think we're gonna do anything 'cause we're getting married in like 2 to 3 weeks. -Right. -It's like I didn't get her anything. -You jerk. -I'm such a jerk man. We're getting married and I was like that-- that's bigger than a regular daily anniversary. -But that's awesome that your marriage anniversary will be very close to your actual anniversary from dating. -Yeah. Yeah. -So-- -Yeah. Yeah, we-- I told her I wanted to do it around the same time so we can just celebrate the same anniversary. -Uh huh. -But it's later in the month. -Yeah. -Yeah. Yeah. So now, I guess we're gonna celebrate both. -You think anniversary is weird 'cause you gotta just make that up, right? I mean, is that the day that you met, or is the day of your first kiss, first conception. I don't know. Like what do you call the first anniversary? -It's the first kiss. -I think-- -Is it? -Oh, no I think it was the-- For us, it was the day we became official boyfriend-girlfriend, you know. -Oh, Okay. Yeah. -We started dating like a few months before that. -Oh, that's interesting. -Yeah. -Is she like I knew my fiance at work for a while, but when we like had a real date that counted, you know. -So, that was the-- -The smoodge sealed the day, you know. -Uh huh. -Uh, okay. -You know, we weren't-- You know, we were still kind of go and, okay, we kiss and how serious is this getting. -Uh huh. -We still canned that smoodge. -Yeah. -That's cool. -Yeah, on the day. -There's a lot of wedding planning going on in the room right now. So, Ariel you're getting married in like 2-1/2 weeks, -Yes. -3 weeks. -Uh huh. -Bridget, you're getting married later on this year? -Uh huh. It was gonna be in January. Yeah. -Okay. All right. It's the beginning of next year. -Yeah. -Congratulations by the way. -Thanks, but-- -We don't talk about that on the show. -Oh my gosh. There's still a lot of planning-- -I know. -like I don't realize that I've never held a big party like that before. -Uh huh. -There's something little etiquette things and I'll-- I'll survive though I guess. -Uh huh. -So, you are the wedding planner then. -Pretty much. -You're handling all that stuff. -Yeah. -Okay. I was like-- -I don't-- I don't envy you. -Right now. -Yeah. She is seeing those stuffs that my fiancee is going through. It's a lot of work. -It's amazing that people get this done with a real-time job too. -Yeah. -But you know, when she gets it all done like all the vendors they take care of everything. They just put in their hands like, "Okay, I hope nothing gets screwed up." -Right. Right. -And if it does, you go with the flow. -Yeah, totally. -Because no one else knows something screwed up. -Exactly. -Only you know something wrong, you know. -Right. Yeah. Yeah, totally. -That's good you see it that way so-- -Yeah. -you're not going crazy 'cause I was telling my fiance like even if at its worse, it will still be a great day. -Right. -You know, like nothing-- There's nothing major that can happen to where it will ruin the day. -Uh huh. -So, this is like just relax, you know. -Right. -His last words. -Yeah. Exactly. -Just don't happen it on a boat and everything will be fine. -Oh yeah, for sure. -If it happens on land, you'll be fine. -Yeah. Yeah. -It will be fun. So, where's your wedding actually happen? -Where I grow up in Miami. -Okay. -So, we're gonna do it in a nice hotel there. Hotel is taking care of everything so-- That's cool. -As long-- I feel like as long your family and friends are there, you're gonna have a great time. -Yeah. Yeah. -Exactly. -Yeah, it really matters. -Yeah. -All right, well, congratulations to both of you guys. -Thank you. -Thanks for coming on the show today as well Bridget. -Always a pleasure. -Filling in for Jeff while he's away. Let's jump into the stories for today. The first one is really cool. It's written by our boss, which is why we're contractually obligated to tell that. -No. But it's just a good story. -No, it's a great story and this was written by John Falcone, who's an executive editor here at CNET. And recently, he was traveling back to San Francisco to our main office and do some-- -Uh huh. -get some work done, and while he was there, he was staying in a hotel and this is really cool. He actually brought a version of the Google Chromecast USB dongle. I'm sorry, HDMI dongle with them. -So, this was kind of a good idea and it was something that he wanted to test out because, you know, when you go to a hotel you can pay for movies, but those always are really expensive and then you always have like may be a handful like 20 channels like cable channels to watch while you're there, -Uh huh. -which is decent entertainment. But if you wanna-- But if something like you want more specific, the Chromecast would be a viable option for it, right? -Yeah. You can play-- -You basically have your entire network's cue-- -You can play anything-- Yeah, anything on that flexing YouTube, but also if you have your laptop with you, it's anything on the web. -Right. -Uh huh. -So, can't go wrong with anything above. -Right. Right. -Yeah. -So, it would be awesome like exactly you can watch The 404, which I'm sure John certainly. -Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure that's what he was trying to do in the bathtub watching The 404. -Exactly. -That's what I'm picturing. -So, he took the Comcast in his luggage and that was the idea. But unfortunately, it didn't really work out as well as he would have wanted. And Bridget I wanna hear you're taking the story 'cause I know you've been trying to get it work in the office too. But it seems like there are a lot of complaints from people that are early adaptors of the Chromecast. So, I think John got it at that really-- I forget how much it was on Amazon. But he was one of the few people to actually grab it before it sold out. -Yeah, it was $35, but the few people who got it first got that free Netflix for 3 months credit. -Right. -So, I mean, you know, it balances out to like 11 bucks if you item that credit. -Uh huh. -So-- Yeah, pretty sweet. It only lasted a day for that-- for that deal. But-- But, yeah, right now, if you-- if you're one of the first to have a Chromecast, it's still back order if you wanna order it today. You have to wait a month. -Uh huh. -But, it requires a very basic Wi-Fi set up. -Uh huh. -Just watch the name and watch the password. And when you go into a place like a hotel or your office where things are more complicated and they want you to sign in with something special, some credentials, forget it. -Uh huh. -It's not advanced enough to have you going to some sort of credentials like something as if you go into even a Panera or Starbucks, you always have that website popup that says, "Okay, you know, now you'll get your free session. -Right. -You ready to start?" That kind of-- That kind of layer just does not work on the simple devices. -Uh huh. -So, this will be a great thing to do if you could take it to a hotel room, right? -Right. -Right. Yeah, even the Apple TV or Roku where it really work with like that, because even they need simple Wi-Fis. -Right. Yeah. That makes sense, though. I mean, the thing with the hotel that John described in the story is that it's actually free Wi-Fi that he got to hold off. -Uh huh. -But the problem is that you have to enter your room number in and then your last name is the password and since that's not the sort of the same of security measures that normal routers do, that sort of held them up. That plus the slowness of the Wi-Fi, which is what seems to be the overarching complaint about Google Chromecast. -Yeah. -But is that-- Unless, you have a superfast connection you're not gonna be able to have the stream video, which is sort of the point of a whole thing. -That happens with everything, though. I mean, I got my parents' Roku and I didn't put it together that their telephone company internet just wasn't gonna be fast enough to watch Netflix and it was staggering for them until they upgrade it. -Right. -So, a lot of people have that trouble too, and in other parts of America not one has the fastest internet. -Right. -You know, you sell this great stuff you go and buy and you're like why isn't it working right because not everyone has the best internet connection anywhere we go. -Uh huh. -So, what's been your experience with it 'cause I think a lot of people don't like the fact that you have to use your device like your laptop for example to control the TV as a remote, right? Like people would rather just have like a broken remote, a small little device that you can just have the navigational pad on and surf through whatever you want in terms of content. -You want another remote? -Uh huh. -For me, but-- I have-- I have too many right now. I'm okay. -Right. Okay. -I'm okay. I already have my cellphone with me in my lap when I'm multitasking watching television anyways. -Right. Right. -If anything is $35, I'm not gonna complain. I rather, you know, save the money and then will have the remote when you balance that out. -Right. -And then have, "Okay, gonna go-- gotta go walk over and get the Roku remote and I like physical remotes, but I don't another thing that-- to give me clutter. -Right. -I'm totally fine at this point for using the cellphone. -I'm with you on that. Yeah, one last remote, I like that. -Right. -Yeah. -The other thing that's also that, you know, it just seems like the technology needs to catch up to Chromecast, right? It's not really the things that we have talked about the complaints, aren't the fault of Chrome-- of the Chromecast. It's more about the backing end for its structure I need to catch up. -Right. -Right. I mean, if you're gonna be an early adaptor for anything, this is always gonna be a complaint is that, you know, the stuff needs to catch up. -Yeah. And another solution around this is getting the hotspot like a 4G hotspot, which of course is extreme money. But-- -Right. -using your phone or getting a little extra bucks for that, but then again you're gonna hope that where you're going actually has a good connection. I even tried that in the office and I couldn't get it. -Right. -This wasn't fast enough for the particular model we had, but that's another work around that has an improvement too. Nothing's gonna be perfect if you like, unless you have just a really solid-- it's really meant for your home or you're under control with everything. -Right. Right. Yeah. It will be-- It will just be a matter of time. I think for now at least in this article, John talks about how the laptop or, you know, the tablet even is still the best hotel surfing entertainment device, right? Like it doesn't seem the Chromecast did quite very well. -Like-- Yeah. Yeah, when it comes to hotels, you know, yeah. -So what do you guys do when you-- when you digitally packed? Because I feel like I'm a packrat normally even with my home life, so when I go out somewhere I love to be prepared digitally, right? So, if I'm gonna go and stay in a hotel and spend a 4-hour flight up in the air, I download-- I mean by like 15 movies just to put on to USB key. -Uh huh. -You know, just to make sure that I'm properly entertained. -Wow, that is a lot of work you need to do. -Yeah. Yeah, totally. It's like digital entertainment ADD. You know, if I don't like a movie, I want a library of other options I might dispose to. -I'm-- I'm a-- Sad to say that I'm okay on a 5-hour flight with Candy Crush the whole time 'cause I don't prepare. -Yeah. -And so I'm like, "All right, I go this up. Let's go for it." But usually, I have to-- I became addicted to taking a small tablet with me on the plane. Not a full size iPad. I like the iPad mini 'cause you have that like space where I don't wanna elbow touch the next person-- -Right. -and the smaller tablet makes it nice to touch anyone and the small one you keep it close, very close and personal. -Yeah. -Yeah. -But, yeah, I don't prepare that greatly with movies. -Yeah. I'm horrible with preparing like I don't bring anything. I just hope that the airplane has Wi-Fi and then if I want anything I just get it on the plane, you know. -Right. -Yeah. -But as far as packing, I don't bring my iPad. I only bring my laptop, but I never use it on the plane and once I really have to and I just use my iPhone. -Yeah, I never end up using the laptop. -Yeah. -I always just, you know, entertained by whatever is on the television in front of me. -Yeah. -I always get like really self-conscious like if I'm editing something or working on music or something, I'm always really self-consciousness of the person next to me or people behind me of what I'm doing, you know. -Yeah. -Oh, yeah they're-- they're looking 'cause I'm looking. -Yeah, exactly, exactly. -My eyes can't help wondering. They're wondering. -Yeah. -Yeah. -You gotta watch-- -You can-- You can get those like screen protectors from 3M-- -Right. -where like only the person in front of you can see, but they knew you're annoyed 'cause it gets dim, I don't know. -Yeah. Yeah. -And they wanna assume that you're watching porn, right? If I tell someone with that and be like, "Oh cool. Which porn are you watching? -Yeah. Yeah. You're right. -Also, yeah, that's good point. I remember one time when I was flying back home, I was watching episodes of Girls on my laptop, -Right. -and it was like my first exposure to it. -That's not appropriate. -I realized that. That was the first season. It was episode 3 or something. I was like, "Oh, this was a great show. It's funny, whatever." I was watching on the plane and all of a sudden a lesbian love scene comes on the screen and I'm like, "Okay." -Any children near you? -There were no children, but there are a lot of eyebrow-raised adults next to me. And I was just like, "This is not cool because they're watching right now." Plus, it doesn't help that I'm like looking to see if anyone's watching while I'm watching, look super suspicious. You wanna get all of this? -Like, you know, suddenly like I'm gonna hit those-- -Yeah. -you scroll it down. -Yeah. Bringing the laptop to the bathroom doesn't really cool. It's not gonna help either. So, yeah, that's digital packing and the Chromecast. I'd say bring it along, but don't be surprise if it doesn't work yet. -Yeah. -Still worth $35 totally. -What is-- yeah, exactly. -100%, you know, if nothing else just wait. -Yeah. -Okay, so let's switchgear for a little bit. Yesterday was a big day for fastfood research and we all know that fastfood is one of the things closest to my heart. -Yeah. -I love talking that fastfood with you. -So, of course, any chance I get, I'm gonna talk about it. You are. I love talking about with you Bridget. -Yeah. -And I hope you can hear the earnest in my voice-- -I do. -because I really do. And it's because you're probably one of the only other people in the office that eats McDonald's-- --Oh, yeah. -in the office. -No shame. -No shame with me too. I'm not bashful about it all. -Walk and ride in. Give me some chicken nuggets, we gotta go Monde Lamba. -Yeah. I love that and you don't offer it to anyone else here because you eat the whole thing. -Yeah. -So, I love that. -Yeah. Okay, that was a hint clearly. I need a box of chicken that- -Let me get some of that. And Ariel, this is a great story for you too because you picked a good year, the not be a vegetarian anymore. -Oh, yeah. -Because yesterday scientists unveiled they purchased cooked and ate the first lab-grown hamburger ever, the first artificial in-vitro hamburger. Don't judge yet-- Just wait. -I don't know. Okay. Okay. -Get a taste of it yet. Go. Okay. Okay. -So, there was a taste test at a news conference in London yesterday and this is how they made it. It's really cool. So, scientist extracted the stem cells from a cow, right, and they multiplied those cells by the billions in a lab. You know, they cultured those cells and then they made it into a beef patty that they cooked up and served. They also spiced it as well to make it taste a little bit more flavorful. And they unveiled that at a press conference yesterday. No surprise here it was backed by Sergey Brin because the whole project cost $332,000 to manufacture and make this one burger. -Not-- Not on the value meal. -No. Not on a $5 plan. -Is that what you order off by the way, dollar menu? -Oh, I love that. -You never know what you're in the mood for. Yes, so it was like a layer of meat tissue like-- -Yeah. -about 20,000 layers of meat tissue. -Right. It's like 3 printing of burger. -Basically, you know-- -Yeah. -So gross. -What I-- What made me think about this is that people who are vegetarians usually don't like the fact that-- -Right. -It's such a violent process to get your meat and I don't Ariel if you were thinking well-- -Uh huh. -have you ever thought before today that like, well, if there was a nice way to get meat without. -Uh huh. -Right. -Is it about killing or is it about just meat in general? -Yeah. -What was it for you? -Well, for me, it didn't have to do with the killing of animals. I'm actually-- I really don't care. I mean, this sounds bad, but like, you know, whatever. Animals die. We eat them. -Right. -But as far as like-- For me, it was more of a health thing because like, you know, there's always in studies about eating red meat and like pork and stuff. -Right. -And I just had to-- I mean, you saw in the pre-show how big I was and then like I do like set-- -Yeah. -set some sort of like rules on what I ate, you know. -Uh huh. -So, I don't know. I don't know if I-- I would have to check the nutrition on stem cell burgers. -Right. -I got to tell you. Here's what bother's me about this. Now, first of all, the preface is this isn't coming to stores anytime soon. This might be realistic in 20 years. -Right. -But I feel like there-- there's something that we're not gonna know about a nutrient being lacking or something about this processed meat until it's already in the market for years. -Uh huh. -Right. -And they go, "Oh look, people are deficient in having issues and--"I mean, look at us now. We're gluten intolerance because as a human society, we're not having troubles with wheat production Right. -Because of all the things that we're doing to make our food, you know, better, faster, stronger, and cleaner. It's affecting people. There's-- There's antibiotic issues. -Uh huh. -All these things. There's gotta be something in the DNA and something that issues may be not gonna set well. -Yeah. -Right. -And we will find about-- out about that until it's too late representing-- -Yeah. -That shows to something I have and it's a gut feeling so to speak. -Right. -Yeah, now, I feel that too. -I mean, there's-- there's a reasons things with the way they are and when you keep messing with things, I have a feeling that may be people won't-- won't get the same value. -Right. -But gosh, can you imagine society where no one use-- knows what meat really is? -Yeah, it's like an anemic society. -Oh my gosh. On my gosh. -But you know, that society isn't sound so bad so listening to the statistics, the benefits of lab-grown beef are plenty. So, for example, it uses 45% less energy to manufacture. It produces 96% list green house gases, of course, because you don't-- you're not relying on large blocks of land. And then it requires 99% less land to grown on. So, I mean, if it's trade off there, the thing is people have been vegetarian for years and vegetarians have their own fake-me too, right? -Yeah, totally. -Like I'm sure when you're-- when you do not-- you're eating-- -I'm eating-- -when you're eating like morning star or corn and things like that. -I'm eating tofu. Yeah, morning star. -Yeah. -I've eaten that and tastes good. -Yeah, tofu-- Yeah, there are plenty of meat substitutes for vegetarians, but still need a protein. -Uh huh. -And there are supplements too, so you don't necessarily have to eat a lab-grown meat to get the nutrients you need and you die. -Yeah. That's right. -I'm gonna tell you where I-- where I really fell some-- If we're gonna make an investment-- -Uh huh. -into a new type of-- of way to get our meat, can we please just get the cheaper way, which is make the farms better instead of having these massive disgusting meat houses where like they're-- -Right. -they're sitting in their own filth. -Right. -Have you ever seen food-- It's on Amazon. You can go rent it. Oh my god. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -But watching that, you're like it's not that serious to invest more into having just cows eat grass-- -Uh huh. -Right. -and everything looks normal and everything is better. -Right. -I mean, that's more expensive, but not as expensive as doing a lab meat, you know. -Right. -I don't know. -Right. -I like the concept. I think there's just something that's not gonna be right about it. -Yeah. It's still gonna take a lot of tinkering in the taste test when they gave it to these 2 people. There's actually a video of it too. -Uh huh. -It's really funny 'cause when they gave it to them, they take the first bite and they just put the burger down and that's how you know it didn't taste very good. I mean, they try to play it off too. They're just like, "Uhm. -I wanna know if there's a spill. -It's really good." Like you could tell that they don't like it. -It's also how much is in their mind like I did it. Yeah, I'll try it. -I would definitely try it. -Yeah. Yeah. But how-- But yeah, how's it compared to Spam or other things, you know. -Yeah. Well, they said that it taste a lot like an artificial meat like you can tell that it's not a real patty. -Interesting. -Because, you know, it's just-- the-- they said the food flavor is just not there. The consistency is there because it doesn't fall apart in your mouth, which is easy to replicate, you know, you can do that with anything with tofu. -Right. -Uh huh. -But it's the lack of the fat, you know, there's no fat rendered inside of it, so there's juice or anything like that. It's a very dry, dry patty. I think they look at expert chef to make it. So, they did their best to make it juicy. -Yeah. Yeah. -Yeah, it's Guy Fiere that cooked different stuff. You'll see it at his American Kitchen in Times Square. -Oh, good. I'll get some Donkey sauce on that. -I would-- In all seriousness though, I would not be surprise if we saw this on the Dollar Menu in McDonald's in 20 years, because why not, you know, if it takes less land to grow. It's cheaper for them and they could slap a green sticker on it like, "Look, we're on the cutting edge of food production." Of course, they're gonna do that. It's gonna be-- -You know what? -It's gonna happen. -It will be interesting to see how-- how that-- how that helps the Earth, but also people-- people diet issues now. I don't know. -Uh huh. -I don't know. I'm weirded out. -Yeah, it's very bizarre. -It is weird. -Yeah. -I wanna eat it, but I'm weirded out at the same time. -But, you know, when you really think about that psychology, you don't know what goes into the production of all the food that you eat. You know, you're just-- -I start reading about this stuff and I get freaked out. -you're trusting the FDA. -Yeah. -It's something that I just started reading about in the past year and I'm like, "Oh, baby carrots are disgusting if you read up on Baby Care." -Right. -You know, there's always something that's going through some sort of procedure to put bleach and chlorine on it-- -Right. -and just serve it to you nice and pretty in the store, you know. -Yeah. Yeah. All your vegetables have pesticides on them. -Yeah, so all this stuff in moderation. Anything in excess is gonna mess you up, I think. -Yeah. We just don't need anything. -Yeah, there you go. I wanna be like Wally and just have the shake. Today it's blue shake day. -On your scooter rolling around. -Yeah, I will-- I'll be happy just rolling around, what's up? -Yeah, I like that too. -Just give me more those chocolate-covered strawberries and I'll be fine. -Yeah. Yeah. -That's all I want. -[unk] that. -It's better than those Japanese poop burgers that they're manufacturing last year, do you remember that story? -No. We covered that on CNET. -Why was I here too on that day? -Yeah, that was a terrible day. That was the day I went down. For me, it was terrible. Yeah, you remember that story? -I didn't hear for that. -Was I here for that? -Yeah. -It was a poop burger. -I think I tried to refresh that. Thanks. Thanks for bringing that out. -Oh, I'm gonna bring it up again just to refresh our memories. There was this Japanese scientist that made a burger that he had extracted using protein from human fecal matter along with other things. You know, there's like-- -Human-- -steak sauce in it and stuff from a little bit at A-1. -Yeah. Okay. -You put something. -Okay, when you put it that way, there's some-- -But also human fecal matter too. -Okay. -They serve it to their grills like-- -He loves it. -With the side meal on [unk]. Yes, so, they actually said that it was pretty good. They admit that a lot of people probably aren't gonna wait in line for fecal burger. -Yeah. Probably not. -It's a viable alternative if we really run out of resources. We can participate- -Yeah. -I don't know. Coming to Carl's Jr. really soon. -Let's make our own Carl's off of this. -Up and down. -I'm really in the mood. -Don't test me Bridget. I'll go with you. I'll bite too just for the offering. -When I was young by the way, I-- You guys go to college junior, right? Did you-- -I've never been to the Carl's Jr. 'cause they never had it growing up in my area. -Did you have Hardee's? -No we didn't-- That was in North Florida. No. -What? -I've been to a Sonic at once. -So, you don't know anything about the Bacon Western Cheeseburger? -Oh man. I had those. -Oh my god. -Yeah, it's so good. -All of these, they're so good. -I used to go to Carl's Jr. all the time when I was a kid, but when I was really young I find it hard to read. I thought it was pronounced Cow's Jr. -Cow's Jr.? -Cow's Jr. Yeah, 'cause I thought it was-- -Cow's-- -Yeah, like it was beef. And so I was like, "Oh, Cow's Jr." -Is it related-- -We call it-- -Is it related to Check-- -No one ever corrected me. -Is it related to Checkers 'cause I've-- we have Checkers? -I think Hardee's is the east coast equivalent of Carl's Jr. -Oh, okay. -What's Checkers? -You got to eat-- Sorry. That's all-- That's all their slogan is you got to eat. -You got to eat. -It's a Drive-Thru burger place that you always kind of correct the decision after you've been there 'cause it's like a race car Checker flag. -Oh, yeah. -Yeah. Yeah. -That's their theme and it's like, got to eat. -You got to eat as their-- That's why the terrorists hate us because we have fastfood restaurants with motivational slogans like that. It's ridiculous. -You got to eat. -You got to eat. -It's like not-- not that our food taste like choose our place. Well, you have to while you'll die. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -So, you might as well have the lowest confident-- -You're hungry. There's no place nearby. You got to eat. -You got to eat. -Not totally at-- -Why the hell not. -That was a great model. I like that. We got to find one of those around here. There's a-- I guess there's saying in the chat room that Rally's is just the same as Checkers. -Thank you. -We have that. -Thank you. Okay. Yes. -Uh huh. I've been to-- I've been to Rally's Burger in California before. -Uh huh. -Well, so let's-- let's switchgears once again. Last story in the day kind of a short show today, not-- kind of a slow news day, but-- Bridget, have you heard about this new Ikea iPhone app? -Yeah. I haven't tried it, though. -No. -But what's interesting is that I guess with the new catalogue, if you-- if you use the app and you're like, "I wonder what this awfully, boring, wooden chair thing will look like in my house?" -Yeah. -Poang. It's called poang. -You can-- -I love Ikea catalogue, the best. -Me too. -You can take the-- like their augmented reality where it uses the camera that kind of show you your living room, but then puts a fake image of the furniture in its place-- -Uh huh. Yeah. -and wherever you point the camera. -Yeah, that's really cool. -And, of course, it depends on like how far away you are to be realistic-looking like that. -Right. -Okay, I will give them points for being the first to have really be creative and used it in a way that I think it's kind of-- kind of funny. -Uh huh. -It's a funny way to kind of like go to your significant other and be like, "Come on honey, wouldn't this look great over here." You can say it. But I mean-- I mean, what they should have is maybe augmented reality for. And here's what you look like after 3 hours of yelling at each other trying to put it together. -The old places turn to fire. It's like a fire in the corner for some reasons. -And-- And here's the dinner that is gonna be cold because you're gonna fight. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -Right. That you probably bought from Ikea that's beyond-- -There should be like, you know, 7 steps to like in the process of getting it. -Right. -I love Ikea catalogue day by the way. That day, I get that in the male or I'll steal it from neighbor's, whatever. I like spending an entire day just like reading that and fantasizing about how should my apartment could look. -Yeah. -It's the best. I love that, right? -Yeah, it's cool. -Everyone loves to have an Ikea catalogue. -Oh, yeah, for sure. I always feel like I'm some expert interior designer when I get those. -Yeah. -And then you just imagine like what I would put together, but I never do. -Yeah. -Yeah. -It's just fantasizing. -Sometimes, I kinda wanna just buy exactly what's in that showroom near to me just outfit-- -That's the best way it looks. -Yeah. You know, you never do that at a store where you just like buy exactly what's on the mannequin. -Right. -But I would totally do that with Ikea. -I've seen offices completely decked out an Ikea. -Yeah. -And I'm like, "Oh, that's interesting, you're just completely bought the entire Ikea catalogue." -Right. -You know like it's always too obvious because they never change their stuff that often. -Right. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -So, it's always like-- like-- like you gonna do this a little here and a little there. I'm like, "Okay, okay," you know. -Yeah, there are like very few objects in the Ikea catalogue that you know are Ikea. -Uh huh. -One of those is that-- -Those lamps. -the lamp, yeah, exactly. -Uh huh. -like paper kind of lamps that have the paper shade over it. -Or the ones you hang like a ball. -Right. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -And I had a roommate one time who just could not put that together. So, I was like that's the Ikea lamp done wrong. -Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Anything meant to look like a locker, like a steel locker is definitely from Ikea or those-- those poang chairs that kind of lean back and they have the stress test that's like, you know, pressing a boot into it all day long like those poang chairs are very common, or the record shelf. -All right. -That's-- yeah. That's the one that everybody has. -Yeah, expedite. -Expedite. -Expedite, yeah, exactly. It's like basically cubbies. It's basically like a wall unit of cubby holes like square cubby holes-- -Right. -and they fit records perfectly. -Yeah. -So, a lot of my friends collect records and things that, you know, it's a-- -Everybody has-- -it's a great place for this great stuff. -Yup. But you always know that it's Ikea. -Always. Yeah, you could tell. -Yeah. -Everything breaks to like if it's there-- some part is broken or something like that you know it's Ikea. -You can never move Ikea furniture. -Nope. -Once it's there, you hope you're staying there for a while. -Yeah. Yeah. -That's right. -This app is really cool, though I would definitely uses anything that keep engrossed in the Ikea catalogue for 10, 15 minutes on it. -Now, who's gonna put this in clothing? Am I gonna stand in front of my mirror and go, "Hi, this is me. I look like in my dress and my shoes." They have that on my-- -They have that. -on like-- the technology is out there, but-- -It's out there. -but I don't see it in like a Macy's app or [unk] app is what I mean. Like-- right now, there's a connect that can be hacked to where you can stand in front of a giant screen and see what you look like with the different outfit on. -Uh huh. Right. -But it looks kind of, you know, "Okay, I've done it at a retail show." I believe Bloomingdales in-- Bloomingdales in New York tested that out. -Uh huh. -But, it's none in the masses you get like Ikea would be-- -That's cool. -where it's easy to do. -Right. -So, we'll have to see. -I think that would work well for hairstyles 'cause, you know, people are pretty scared to try new things. But if you keep preview it first, maybe-- -Uh huh. -Oh, in front of the barber chair, we're like at that giant mirror. -Yeah. -Oh, that'll be cool. -That will be so cool. -Yeah, I'm always afraid of joining new hairstyle that's why I haven't cut may hair forever. -That's a great idea. -Right. -What do you know about hair cuts Ariel? -I used to be a barber myself. -Really? -I used to cut friend's hair? -Wait. What? I didn't know this. -Yeah. Yeah. -I've asked you to cut my hair and you're like, "No. No." -Like-- Like license, or for fun? -No. No. No. It's just like clippers with-- like all guys, you know, like just give him low fade and stuff. -Right. -'Cause we never wanted to pay a barber so we just give each other's haircut-- -Yeah, I like that. -It was like high school. -Okay. Okay. -Yeah. -You know, I was talking to a friend over the weekend about Clueless, the movie. -Uh huh. And that-- Oh, there you go. -Perfect example of what we should have from the movies that we don't have yet. -How old is that movie? Like 15 years old-- -Yeah, mid 90s. -and we still haven't that technology. Come on America. -I know. -Did you-- She was only about an app that does something like that. I mean-- So, if you're not familiar with the movie, Clueless, there's this one part where the main character, she like goes into her closet and her closet connected to a computer that has an image of herself on it as well as a database of everything she owns in a closet and she could just pick her outfit on the computer and it actually tells her if it's a match or mismatch based on the outfit she puts together virtually, right? -You can do this yourself with apps. I have seen them where-- where you have to manually enter everything in. -Right. -That's not a time saver. That's just like being really conceited and-- -Yeah. -wearing now your clothes and taking pictures of yourself. -They do have that, though. You basically just take a full-body shot of yourself and some generic standing position. -Uh huh. -And then you take pictures of your clothes. Of course, you're gonna do the grand work and then they do that for you. They tell you if it's match or mismatch. -The technology that I want is from Clarissa Explains It All. I wanna have video games constantly. Am I responsible of my family members like, "Why did she instantly on that show?" Have you watched that show? -No. I don't see that. -Oh, you've no idea what I'm talking about. Okay, well-- well, back then in the early 90s on the Nickelodeon. She always type when she had an issue. She always went to her computer and there's some masterfully designed program with her, you know, doing like-- like a plot with her brother and like-- -What? -like a video game and she was-- she must have been a master programmer and that she can program within 30 minutes. -Yeah. That's amazing. -But it was always like, yeah, that the-- another case of looking into the future of technology through kid's shows, right? -Right. -I wonder what they have now. -So, she can like beat up her family members, you put them in different scenarios. -Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. -I love that with my friends too. -Yeah. Yeah. -Yeah. -Definitely. -So maybe we'll see that in a few years. -Yeah. -We should develop that app together by the way. -There you go. -We'll have a lunch meeting-- after this. -Yeah. -I need a sponsor. -I know. Can you imagine if McDonald's sponsored this show? Jeff would lose his share. -Yeah, I know. -I used to collect the toys, so I kind of just probably have some sort of disorder of eating too much. -Yeah. -That is now part of my required diet-- -Right. -Like-- Like, I'll have withdrawals if I don't have some secret ingredient that was-- me and all the happy meals of life. I don't know. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -You've been brainwashed. -That's why I'm so young with all the preservatives. -It's been part of me. -But then when you turn 45, you're gonna look 300 years old all of a sudden. -Well, I guess that's it for us today you guys. Kind of a shorter show again, but you know we'll be back tomorrow. Bridget, if you're not doing anything tomorrow, please come back. -I'll have to find out. I think I can come back. We'll see. -Okay. I like that soft yes. Okay. -Uh huh. -Well, Ariel and I will be here for the rest of the week. -We will be here. -Actually, you're gonna be gone Friday, right? -I'll be gone Friday, but yeah, I'll be here all-- everyday before that, yeah. -Okay. -2 more days. What? Yeah. -Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then Jeff will be back on Friday as well, but I believe Richard will probably come in and help with that with the board. -For sure. -So, look, you guys we've actually run out of voice mails. So, please, please call us and let us know what you think of the show any of the stories we've talked about. The phone number is area code 646-47-- wait, wait. -866-- -866-404-CNET. Well, I-- -I only know 'cause it's on the screen right now I'm looking at. -Yeah. 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