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The 404: The 404 1,480: Where we shock ourselves silly
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The 404: The 404 1,480: Where we shock ourselves silly

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Zapping your brain with spark plugs to improve your videogaming skills and other tales of transhumanism on the rise; inside Jack White's plan to singlehandedly bring music back to vinyl; a startup that encourages SF residents to auction their parking spaces; and Nintendo skims deeper into financial sludge.

It's Wednesday, May 7th, 2014, I'm Ariel Nunez and from our CBS studio in New York City, welcome to The 404. It's Wednesday, May 7th, 2014, I'm Ariel Nunez and from our CBS studio in New York City, welcome to The 404. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] What's up everyone? What's up everyone? Thank you for tuning in to The 404 Show. Thank you for tuning in to The 404 Show. I'm Jeff Backalaur. I'm Jeff Backalaur. I'm Justin Yew. I'm Justin Yew. Hope you guys are having a great day today, we sure are. Hope you guys are having a great day today, we sure are. We got a lot of stories to get to and some emails. We got a lot of stories to get to and some emails. Some interactions. Some interactions. Yeah. Yeah. And what do we got going on today man? And what do we got going on today man? I liked the show yesterday. I liked the show yesterday. I did too. I did too. One, because I didn't have to deal with it. One, because I didn't have to deal with it. But two, it was just a really funny episode. But two, it was just a really funny episode. I thought it was too, right? I thought it was too, right? I didn't realize it's gonna kinda break your balls that much. I didn't realize it's gonna kinda break your balls that much. The first time Mark Maron was on the show, he seemed kind of nice. The first time Mark Maron was on the show, he seemed kind of nice. He was really low key. He was really low key. And I feel like the second time around, the fact that he was a little bit meaner is a good thing for me. And I feel like the second time around, the fact that he was a little bit meaner is a good thing for me. I thought-. I thought-. That probably means he was trying to run you through the ringer, cuz her like you. That probably means he was trying to run you through the ringer, cuz her like you. I, that's what I. I, that's what I. And, you can clearly take it. And, you can clearly take it. Well, that's what I would, I mean, I tell him, like, rationalizing it. Well, that's what I would, I mean, I tell him, like, rationalizing it. Or, he's just a ****. Or, he's just a ****. Well, he's definitely, like, that's [CROSSTALK]. Well, he's definitely, like, that's [CROSSTALK]. He's prickly. He's prickly. He's prickly. He's prickly. Right? Right? He's a little rough. He's a little rough. But, like, I'll be totally honest. But, like, I'll be totally honest. Yesterday was one of the, my favorite interviews I've ever done. Yesterday was one of the, my favorite interviews I've ever done. Really? Really? Definitely. Definitely. I had so much fun doing that. I had so much fun doing that. Yeah. Yeah. So, a lot of people emailed, and they were like, it was good. So, a lot of people emailed, and they were like, it was good. [CROSSTALK] Kind of awkward. [CROSSTALK] Kind of awkward. I don't know about awkward. I don't know about awkward. Some people were saying it was kinda awkward. Some people were saying it was kinda awkward. I think because if you don't know who Mark Meyer is then you're like why is this guy caring so much about what's behind the table. I think because if you don't know who Mark Meyer is then you're like why is this guy caring so much about what's behind the table. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. He kinda blew us up. He kinda blew us up. It was funny though. It was funny though. It was really funny and he found my contact solution which I had actually been looking for. It was really funny and he found my contact solution which I had actually been looking for. I, nice. I, nice. That's good. That's good. At least someone got something positive out of that. At least someone got something positive out of that. I no I really did enjoy it, and I thought it was awesome. I no I really did enjoy it, and I thought it was awesome. I, like I said I, I don't think I've had more fun interviewing somebody. I, like I said I, I don't think I've had more fun interviewing somebody. And I, I, I don't know, maybe people like didn't get it? And I, I, I don't know, maybe people like didn't get it? Where it was sort of this like joshing around thing? Where it was sort of this like joshing around thing? Yeah. Yeah. But you're totally right. But you're totally right. Like,. Like,. I only really bust balls of people who I, who I like. I only really bust balls of people who I, who I like. And that's all I do. And that's all I do. Like, for my friends, all I do is make fun of them. Like, for my friends, all I do is make fun of them. I don't even like care, like I don't even ask them how they're doing. I don't even like care, like I don't even ask them how they're doing. It's just non-stop making fun of them. It's just non-stop making fun of them. That's how this podcast is too. That's how this podcast is too. Sure. Sure. Basically sitting down for an interview with Marc Maron is like getting into a fight with your girlfriend. Basically sitting down for an interview with Marc Maron is like getting into a fight with your girlfriend. Or boyfriend, or your [UNKNOWN] whatever. Or boyfriend, or your [UNKNOWN] whatever. Well, I'd much rather interview Marc Maron than fight with [INAUDIBLE] Well, I'd much rather interview Marc Maron than fight with [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGH] It's like, it always starts off really angry and you say things you don't mean. [LAUGH] It's like, it always starts off really angry and you say things you don't mean. Yeah. Yeah. And then eventually towards the end of the 45 minute interview you start feeling like the, okay what do we both need to work on? And then eventually towards the end of the 45 minute interview you start feeling like the, okay what do we both need to work on? She, I, look. She, I, look. I mean, I know it was all good spirited, cause he wrote me after and he said. I mean, I know it was all good spirited, cause he wrote me after and he said. No he didn't. No he didn't. He's like, that was fun. He's like, that was fun. He's like, I'm a ball buster, you can take it. He's like, I'm a ball buster, you can take it. It's great. It's great. That's cool, yeah. That's cool, yeah. So, I had a blast. So, I had a blast. I really can't be any happier with how that went. I really can't be any happier with how that went. Yeah. Yeah. So go back to yesterdays show and listen to it. So go back to yesterdays show and listen to it. And, and I got emails from people who said like. And, and I got emails from people who said like. Look, I've never listened to your show on Twitter. Look, I've never listened to your show on Twitter. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. I never listened to your show but that was great. I never listened to your show but that was great. Oh, cool. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. So,if that, if we can get one new listener from yesterday. So,if that, if we can get one new listener from yesterday. Man. Man. That's all I care about. That's all I care about. If I had been sitting up here, if it was me or Ariel, I feel like we would have pulled the jack black in high fidelity and just taken one of these microphones and [CROSSTALK] If I had been sitting up here, if it was me or Ariel, I feel like we would have pulled the jack black in high fidelity and just taken one of these microphones and [CROSSTALK] [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. It's like the thing. It's like the thing. Like I knew ex, I knew, I, nothing went off course yesterday. Like I knew ex, I knew, I, nothing went off course yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Like nothing happened yesterday where I was like, oh I didn't and that was a curveball, I wasn't prepared for that one. Like nothing happened yesterday where I was like, oh I didn't and that was a curveball, I wasn't prepared for that one. You can't let too much time pass after his insult before your comeback. You can't let too much time pass after his insult before your comeback. That's the thing. That's the thing. It's hard. It's hard. Of course. Of course. Yeah, I thought I was keeping up with him, right? Yeah, I thought I was keeping up with him, right? Yeah, you were doing really well. Yeah, you were doing really well. I think I did, I think that was like the best part of that. I think I did, I think that was like the best part of that. Yeah, it, it was fine. Yeah, it, it was fine. You can probably hear my laughter in the background. You can probably hear my laughter in the background. You can. You can. Of that episode, which is. Of that episode, which is. Neither good or bad. Neither good or bad. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I heard it while we were shooting. I heard it while we were shooting. Yeah, like it or not. Yeah, like it or not. I am there. I am there. But seriously, such a blast. But seriously, such a blast. I had such a good time with him and go back and listen to yesterday's show. I had such a good time with him and go back and listen to yesterday's show. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. alright. alright. Back to reality. Back to reality. What do we have cooking today? What do we have cooking today? Alright. Alright. So today we have a bunch of ep bunch of stories I'm really excited to talk about. So today we have a bunch of ep bunch of stories I'm really excited to talk about. We're gonna talk about zapping your brain with spark plugs to improve your video-gaming skills. We're gonna talk about zapping your brain with spark plugs to improve your video-gaming skills. Okay. Okay. Totally normal. Totally normal. Yeah, that sounds fine. Yeah, that sounds fine. Then we're gonna talk about how Jack Black is planning to single-handedly bring everybody back to vinyl. Then we're gonna talk about how Jack Black is planning to single-handedly bring everybody back to vinyl. I'm really excited to talk about that. I'm really excited to talk about that. Jack White. Jack White. What'd I say? What'd I say? You said Jack Black You said Jack Black Oh, that's the second Jack Black reference. Oh, that's the second Jack Black reference. Yeah. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Jack White. [CROSSTALK] Jack White. Although Jack Black is very talented. Although Jack Black is very talented. He is. He is. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. And then we're gonna talk about a startup that's straining the relationship between the rich and the poor even more in San Francisco. And then we're gonna talk about a startup that's straining the relationship between the rich and the poor even more in San Francisco. That's already a really strained relationship. That's already a really strained relationship. But they're basically auctioning off public spaces. But they're basically auctioning off public spaces. Okay. Okay. We'll tell you how they're doing that and why people are pissed off about it. We'll tell you how they're doing that and why people are pissed off about it. The we'll talk about some video game news. The we'll talk about some video game news. Nintendo continues to post devastating losses. Nintendo continues to post devastating losses. This is bad, this. This is bad, this. Really, really bad. Really, really bad. Really bad. Really bad. So, in advance of E3 which is coming up we're gonna talk about maybe what we can expect from the company. So, in advance of E3 which is coming up we're gonna talk about maybe what we can expect from the company. And then we're gonna finish up. And then we're gonna finish up. A story about Ed Boon who's the creator of Mortal Kombat. A story about Ed Boon who's the creator of Mortal Kombat. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. He's been tweeting out some sort of mysterious numbers. He's been tweeting out some sort of mysterious numbers. Right. Right. We've been talking about like cryptography lately and, and numbers and things. We've been talking about like cryptography lately and, and numbers and things. So. So. He's doing his own thing. He's doing his own thing. An extra mystery for you guys at the end of the, the episode today. An extra mystery for you guys at the end of the, the episode today. Great. Great. And then some emails we'll get to if we can. And then some emails we'll get to if we can. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Let's dive right in. Let's dive right in. Yeah, all right, so electroshock therapy. Yeah, all right, so electroshock therapy. You haven't really heard about it in a while. You haven't really heard about it in a while. Although it's- Although it's- Usually frowned upon. Usually frowned upon. Usually frowned upon but still being used to treat depression and schizophrenia. Usually frowned upon but still being used to treat depression and schizophrenia. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that. Are you sure? Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah. In this country? In this country? In this country, yeah. In this country, yeah. But, obviously, it's done with a lot of anesthesia and clinicians looking around at you to make sure you're okay. But, obviously, it's done with a lot of anesthesia and clinicians looking around at you to make sure you're okay. Okay. Okay. It's not a diy thing. It's not a diy thing. You don't just shock yourself. You don't just shock yourself. Yeah, they don't, like, make you chomp down on a wooden spoon. Yeah, they don't, like, make you chomp down on a wooden spoon. No. No. I read that the other day. I read that the other day. Yeah. Yeah. I keep seeing. I keep seeing. The vision of like American horror story. The vision of like American horror story. Yeah. Yeah. In my head when I, when I hear shock therapy. In my head when I, when I hear shock therapy. Wait, I haven't watched that because. Wait, I haven't watched that because. The second season they did that a lot. The second season they did that a lot. They just hooked people to like a chair? They just hooked people to like a chair? Yeah, it was like a crazy insane asylum. Yeah, it was like a crazy insane asylum. And they thought they could like shock the madness out of people. And they thought they could like shock the madness out of people. Right. Right. I think it works, or it's just a placebo thing or it just forces people to concentrate. I think it works, or it's just a placebo thing or it just forces people to concentrate. Right. Right. Either way hobbyists right, they're always trying to take a DIY approach to things. Either way hobbyists right, they're always trying to take a DIY approach to things. And in this case a small group of interested parties. And in this case a small group of interested parties. They're learning how to zap their own brains with using, this sounds crazy but, a battery with alligator clips connected to a circuit and two kitchen sponges. They're learning how to zap their own brains with using, this sounds crazy but, a battery with alligator clips connected to a circuit and two kitchen sponges. Those sponges are attached to a, a simple sweatband you know, that you could buy at any sports store. Those sponges are attached to a, a simple sweatband you know, that you could buy at any sports store. You rig that up, put it on their head and then using that battery, they'll actually send electrical pulses into their own brain. You rig that up, put it on their head and then using that battery, they'll actually send electrical pulses into their own brain. Scott, you don't want to do that. Scott, you don't want to do that. And it's, this is, this is funny. And it's, this is, this is funny. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. He's just like, I love being shocked. He's just like, I love being shocked. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing, when you imagine people doing this. And that's the thing, when you imagine people doing this. I don't know. I don't know. For me I'm always imagining like some meth head or coke head in a basement somewhere in the middle of America. For me I'm always imagining like some meth head or coke head in a basement somewhere in the middle of America. But this is actually professionals. But this is actually professionals. Sort of middle-aged professionals that's that's being profiled in this homebrew. Sort of middle-aged professionals that's that's being profiled in this homebrew. So I mean, I think it's fair that we separate like you know, electro-shock therapy. So I mean, I think it's fair that we separate like you know, electro-shock therapy. Yeah. Yeah. From DIY, like, brain stimulation. From DIY, like, brain stimulation. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Like once, like if you've ever gone through physical therapy. Like once, like if you've ever gone through physical therapy. There's, what do they call that machine. There's, what do they call that machine. Oh, the chiropractic machine where the strap. Oh, the chiropractic machine where the strap. The thing that like stimulates your muscles. The thing that like stimulates your muscles. Like that's what we're kind of talking about here. Like that's what we're kind of talking about here. Sort of, yeah. Sort of, yeah. We're not talking about like actual [NOISE] [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] that's an extreme. We're not talking about like actual [NOISE] [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] that's an extreme. Like the Looney Tunes version of it. Like the Looney Tunes version of it. Right? Right? And you know like. And you know like. You know, take off and there's like smoke coming from your skull. You know, take off and there's like smoke coming from your skull. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Right? Right? So there's a big difference here. So there's a big difference here. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, we're talking about 2 milli-amps of electricity which is less than a nine volt battery. So this is, we're talking about 2 milli-amps of electricity which is less than a nine volt battery. Right. Right. And anyone who had never licked a nine volt battery before. And anyone who had never licked a nine volt battery before. That's perfectly healthy. That's perfectly healthy. I'm just saying, my childhood was weird. I'm just saying, my childhood was weird. Yeah, but, not that bad. Yeah, but, not that bad. You're basically sending two milliamps of electricity through a, the part of your brain that controls reaction time. You're basically sending two milliamps of electricity through a, the part of your brain that controls reaction time. Right. Right. Which is the prefrontal cortex. Which is the prefrontal cortex. Among, other things, besides reaction. Among, other things, besides reaction. And we're talking about here is, hopefully with doing this and this is what a lot of, proponents of it say that it can help with memory loss or things like rapid learning. And we're talking about here is, hopefully with doing this and this is what a lot of, proponents of it say that it can help with memory loss or things like rapid learning. If you have a, you know, a big test coming up and you're a student, you can shock yourself into studying better. If you have a, you know, a big test coming up and you're a student, you can shock yourself into studying better. And some are taking it to alleviate chronic pain, depression, even things like stroke recoveries. And some are taking it to alleviate chronic pain, depression, even things like stroke recoveries. You're losing movement, things like that. You're losing movement, things like that. They're hoping that shock therapy can help with alongside physical therapy. They're hoping that shock therapy can help with alongside physical therapy. And it's working. And it's working. You know a lot of academic papers, and that's what this Wired article is talking about. You know a lot of academic papers, and that's what this Wired article is talking about. Scientists and doctors are starting to consider it again as a significant way to research alternative health methods. Scientists and doctors are starting to consider it again as a significant way to research alternative health methods. But they're sort of taking it, some are taking it upon themselves to build a community out of it. But they're sort of taking it, some are taking it upon themselves to build a community out of it. And even trying to make money on it. And even trying to make money on it. Yeah, that's always what's going to happen. Yeah, that's always what's going to happen. You know, they're gonna be like, oh this will cure your XYZ. You know, they're gonna be like, oh this will cure your XYZ. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so quick on this, other link that I put in the rundown. Yeah, so quick on this, other link that I put in the rundown. When I talk about others capitalizing on it, I found this one product in my research for this, and it's called the, let's see, where in the world was this. When I talk about others capitalizing on it, I found this one product in my research for this, and it's called the, let's see, where in the world was this. Is it the trans-cranial direct current stimulation for gamers? Is it the trans-cranial direct current stimulation for gamers? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's called the folk us. So it's called the folk us. And, you can go to foc.us. And, you can go to foc.us. The Focus. The Focus. Oh, foc us, we're in trouble. Oh, foc us, we're in trouble. Foc us. Foc us. Yeah. Yeah. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] And so they're basically capitalizing on what they call TDCS. And so they're basically capitalizing on what they call TDCS. That's Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation. That's Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation. Okay. Okay. And, you could see in this picture here. And, you could see in this picture here. The company is marketing an electro-shot headset for gamers. The company is marketing an electro-shot headset for gamers. What the [UNKNOWN]? What the [UNKNOWN]? It's basically a head band that, you know, attaches to those frontal lobes to increase the plasticity of your brain, of your brain, and make synapses fire faster by over-clocking it, hopefully reducing your reaction times and increasing your skill level in playing video games. It's basically a head band that, you know, attaches to those frontal lobes to increase the plasticity of your brain, of your brain, and make synapses fire faster by over-clocking it, hopefully reducing your reaction times and increasing your skill level in playing video games. Okay, let's be honest. Okay, let's be honest. How many of these have they sold? How many of these have they sold? A lot. A lot. No way. No way. Yes. Yes. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. What are you doing buying a shock machine for video games? What are you doing buying a shock machine for video games? Well, so they had a first round of funding, right? Well, so they had a first round of funding, right? And they are offering pre-orders. And they are offering pre-orders. They sold out the first batch of 300,000. They sold out the first batch of 300,000. Then there was a second batch of 300,000 they also manufactured after that. Then there was a second batch of 300,000 they also manufactured after that. Those all sold out immediately too and you can now pre order the third. Those all sold out immediately too and you can now pre order the third. What the hells our logo during there? What the hells our logo during there? Yeah we've written about it too, that's the scary part. Yeah we've written about it too, that's the scary part. What pisses me of is there, there passing it off as over clocking your brain. What pisses me of is there, there passing it off as over clocking your brain. Yeah yeah. Yeah yeah. It's basically like we've talked about transhumanism in the past, it's making yourself sort of a machine, cyborg. It's basically like we've talked about transhumanism in the past, it's making yourself sort of a machine, cyborg. Right. Right. This is the first step in that. This is the first step in that. The cool thing about this is the way they market it. The cool thing about this is the way they market it. So, not only do they say that, not only do they say that, while you wear the headband, and you're playing it, it'll increase your skill level, when you take it off. So, not only do they say that, not only do they say that, while you wear the headband, and you're playing it, it'll increase your skill level, when you take it off. Your brain sort of remains in this neuroplasticity mode, which means, even after you remove it, your brain is still hard wired to learn faster. Your brain sort of remains in this neuroplasticity mode, which means, even after you remove it, your brain is still hard wired to learn faster. According to what their marketing says. According to what their marketing says. Okay. Okay. So, sounds kind of cool. So, sounds kind of cool. [LAUGH] You know, if you can increase your intelligence, even after you take it off. [LAUGH] You know, if you can increase your intelligence, even after you take it off. It's more reaction time, right? It's more reaction time, right? Reaction time, yeah. Reaction time, yeah. Technically. Technically. I think the thing that's worth noting here is that they're able to skirt FDA policies. I think the thing that's worth noting here is that they're able to skirt FDA policies. By advertising it as a video game. By advertising it as a video game. oh. oh. Accessory. Accessory. Okay. Okay. So a lot of DIY TDCS proficients are using this but not for video games. So a lot of DIY TDCS proficients are using this but not for video games. [CROSSTALK] They're using it to increase their memory or for the stroke stuff, everything we talked about earlier. [CROSSTALK] They're using it to increase their memory or for the stroke stuff, everything we talked about earlier. It's not expensive either, it's $250. It's not expensive either, it's $250. No, that's expensive. No, that's expensive. Is that expensive, I mean it's less than the. Is that expensive, I mean it's less than the. To over clock your brains. To over clock your brains. Less than the Oculus, like. Less than the Oculus, like. But there's nothing to, they're totally different products. But there's nothing to, they're totally different products. If it works then, I mean, I don't know, talk about just video game accessories in general. If it works then, I mean, I don't know, talk about just video game accessories in general. I just don't like the way they're advertising. I just don't like the way they're advertising. Yeah. Yeah. They're saying use the force. They're saying use the force. Let the force of electricity excite your neurons into firing faster. Let the force of electricity excite your neurons into firing faster. Okay, when I read that. Okay, when I read that. I read, oh, shock your brain. I read, oh, shock your brain. That's not something I wanna do. That's not something I wanna do. Yeah. Yeah. And with an iPhone app that's connected to it by bluetooth. And with an iPhone app that's connected to it by bluetooth. 30 day money back guarantee, so if you're not completely a vegetable by the end of the month, 30 day money back guarantee, so if you're not completely a vegetable by the end of the month, Yeah. Yeah. You can get your money back. You can get your money back. The technology isn't necessarily what worries me it's how small the manual is and the fact that people can control this themselves. The technology isn't necessarily what worries me it's how small the manual is and the fact that people can control this themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's so much room for error here and the first step is gonna be coming really soon. Like there's so much room for error here and the first step is gonna be coming really soon. Are we vulnerable? Are we vulnerable? Well I don't know if we should say that. Well I don't know if we should say that. I don't know, I mean like what if you get wet or something while you're using this? I don't know, I mean like what if you get wet or something while you're using this? Would that like fry your brain? Would that like fry your brain? Or it could all just be bs. Or it could all just be bs. Right like maybe the electroshock aren't enough to do anything. Right like maybe the electroshock aren't enough to do anything. This is all a placebo. This is all a placebo. I think that's the case. I think that's the case. No I definitely think that's the case. No I definitely think that's the case. Yeah. Yeah. Right this is like the equivalent of like the Those bracelets people wear. Right this is like the equivalent of like the Those bracelets people wear. Right yeah right. Right yeah right. To help their balance. To help their balance. They think there's like some magnet like the polar magnets of the planet are gonna make them like, you know [CROSSTALK]. They think there's like some magnet like the polar magnets of the planet are gonna make them like, you know [CROSSTALK]. Right. Right. Walk better. Walk better. Yeah, you've seen that people in malls like, kiosk? Yeah, you've seen that people in malls like, kiosk? [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. They have those on. They have those on. They do like a series of test. They do like a series of test. Like, look check it out! Like, look check it out! I can't push your arm down that's [CROSSTALK] I can't push your arm down that's [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. Because you're wearing this band. Because you're wearing this band. Right exactly. Right exactly. Because they've already pushed our arm down once. Because they've already pushed our arm down once. You know, the force of it. You know, the force of it. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] I mean, we were, we were in agreement that this is like the same category, right? I mean, we were, we were in agreement that this is like the same category, right? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, they're need. I mean, they're need. I don't know. I don't know. Like if I'm gonna buy this BS that they're shoveling. Like if I'm gonna buy this BS that they're shoveling. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna need testimonies from like MIT people. I'm gonna need testimonies from like MIT people. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Where they're like, yep, fricking makes you susceptible to, to learning better and. Where they're like, yep, fricking makes you susceptible to, to learning better and. Yeah. Yeah. And have faster reaction times. And have faster reaction times. You could say that if. You could say that if. [CROSSTALK] Bozo being like, you know. [CROSSTALK] Bozo being like, you know. If you're like pulling an all nighter, and it's four in the morning, then a couple electro shocks to keep your focus. If you're like pulling an all nighter, and it's four in the morning, then a couple electro shocks to keep your focus. Ya, it's probably gonna do you good even if it doesn't do anything to your brain. Ya, it's probably gonna do you good even if it doesn't do anything to your brain. Look. Look. Just to keep you paying attention and not falling asleep. Just to keep you paying attention and not falling asleep. I put this in the same category as the magnetic bracelets which are complete ****. I put this in the same category as the magnetic bracelets which are complete ****. And the stuff where like people, you know, I, I once had a friend who wanted to quit smoking. And the stuff where like people, you know, I, I once had a friend who wanted to quit smoking. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And, he tried. And, he tried. He couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. So he went and got shocked. So he went and got shocked. Oh okay. Oh okay. From like a guy in Queens. From like a guy in Queens. Like this guy in a garage in Queens and he explained to my friend that the nicotine receptors are located conveniently behind your ear lobe and he got shocked. Like this guy in a garage in Queens and he explained to my friend that the nicotine receptors are located conveniently behind your ear lobe and he got shocked. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. And he got shocked. And he got shocked. Right. Right. Like oh I need to stop smoking. Like oh I need to stop smoking. It's not, clearly that's bull ****. It's not, clearly that's bull ****. But it's not the fact that your receptors are in your ear, it's the fact that you are doing something traumatic, and you are like introducing this very radical and unconventional process into your life that I think acts as, what you said, a placebo effect. But it's not the fact that your receptors are in your ear, it's the fact that you are doing something traumatic, and you are like introducing this very radical and unconventional process into your life that I think acts as, what you said, a placebo effect. And says, oh, okay. And says, oh, okay. I'm gonna quit smoking. I'm gonna quit smoking. Yeah. Yeah. Or I'm gonna do whatever. Or I'm gonna do whatever. Or my brain's gonna fire quicker. Or my brain's gonna fire quicker. Or it develops this response to where, you know? Or it develops this response to where, you know? Like if every time you think about smoking, you're gonna remember this pain that you felt. Like if every time you think about smoking, you're gonna remember this pain that you felt. And maybe that would keep you from it. And maybe that would keep you from it. It's not even pain. It's not even pain. Like you said, it didn't hurt. Like you said, it didn't hurt. It didn't hurt at all? It didn't hurt at all? It was, it was like that massaging thing. It was, it was like that massaging thing. Mm, okay. Mm, okay. For the physical therapy. For the physical therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that called? What is that called? It's some sort of, like. It's some sort of, like. Stimulus. Stimulus. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I have no idea. I have no idea. They used to sell it as work out thing. They used to sell it as work out thing. Yeah. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Where they would just like work your abs out. Where they would just like work your abs out. Build up your, yeah [LAUGH]. Build up your, yeah [LAUGH]. Put patches on like. Put patches on like. You can sit on the couch, eat popcorn, and be working out. You can sit on the couch, eat popcorn, and be working out. Yeah, just that works. Yeah, just that works. No, it doesn't work. No, it doesn't work. If that worked, everybody would be buying one. If that worked, everybody would be buying one. Well, I guess there is some sort of benefit in physical therapy. Well, I guess there is some sort of benefit in physical therapy. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely for people that have tight muscles or things like that from sitting in an office chair all day. Definitely for people that have tight muscles or things like that from sitting in an office chair all day. Right. Right. That may be BS too. That may be BS too. I don't know about chiropractic work. I don't know about chiropractic work. [CROSSTALK] I feel like the entire practice of chiropractic work is BS. [CROSSTALK] I feel like the entire practice of chiropractic work is BS. You're not really going to hear an argument from me on that. You're not really going to hear an argument from me on that. I mean both of us have seen chiropractors for different reasons, and I mean both of us have seen chiropractors for different reasons, and No, I've never been to one. No, I've never been to one. Oh, you haven't seen one? Oh, you haven't seen one? No. No. Because we've talked about this a few times. Because we've talked about this a few times. Stace went to one, and like ten minutes into the appointment I like leaned over and went Stace, this guy is full of ****. Stace went to one, and like ten minutes into the appointment I like leaned over and went Stace, this guy is full of ****. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like I know but it's free, so I'm just gonna hang out. And she's like I know but it's free, so I'm just gonna hang out. It would be better if they did all have that like soft Asian music playing, with like the waterfall going on. It would be better if they did all have that like soft Asian music playing, with like the waterfall going on. Right. Right. And like dream catchers everywhere. And like dream catchers everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Like they didn't take that whole holistic approach with it and just went full on clinical, went full clinical with it. Like they didn't take that whole holistic approach with it and just went full on clinical, went full clinical with it. Right. Right. There's not enough dudes wearing white lab coats. There's not enough dudes wearing white lab coats. Yeah, that would make it a little bit more confident. Yeah, that would make it a little bit more confident. Like, if you're gonna lie to me, give me the whole package. Like, if you're gonna lie to me, give me the whole package. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sell it to me. Sell it to me. Yeah, don't wear a kimono when you come out Yeah, don't wear a kimono when you come out Exactly, and don't, like, say like, before you enter my room you gotta take off my shoes Exactly, and don't, like, say like, before you enter my room you gotta take off my shoes Yeah. Yeah. And like wash my hands in special water. And like wash my hands in special water. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know? You know? Like the machine, I feel like they just hook you up to that so they don't have to be in the room to see you react to the ****. Like the machine, I feel like they just hook you up to that so they don't have to be in the room to see you react to the ****. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's. It's not good. It's not good. Either way we're talking up this stuff that's in the same category. Either way we're talking up this stuff that's in the same category. Yeah. Yeah. It's not gonna kill you. It's not gonna kill you. But it isn't doing anything you want a big stimulus, you want a big kick in the ****? But it isn't doing anything you want a big stimulus, you want a big kick in the ****? Drink a double espresso. Drink a double espresso. That is guaranteed to make you more responsive and a little more hyper. That is guaranteed to make you more responsive and a little more hyper. Right. Right. Right. Right. Like that's, like, when I need a pick-me-up before a hockey game. Like that's, like, when I need a pick-me-up before a hockey game. I take a shot of espresso. I take a shot of espresso. And yeah, it works. And yeah, it works. Probably gonna explode my heart, but either way, Probably gonna explode my heart, but either way, Every once in a while. Every once in a while. Gettin' that desired result. Gettin' that desired result. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of Ritalin never hurt anybody either. A little bit of Ritalin never hurt anybody either. That I can't endorse. That I can't endorse. Okay. Okay. Caffeine, I can. Caffeine, I can. [LAUGH] So that's transhumanism. [LAUGH] So that's transhumanism. Let's move on to a subject a little less serious. Let's move on to a subject a little less serious. Jack White. Jack White. So Jack White has a label called Third Man records, right? So Jack White has a label called Third Man records, right? And anybody whose read stuff about the White Stripes or Jack White's record label Third Man. And anybody whose read stuff about the White Stripes or Jack White's record label Third Man. He's all about vinyl. He's all about vinyl. I mean he's really single handedly pushing pushing it back into the mainstream. I mean he's really single handedly pushing pushing it back into the mainstream. So, what's really cool about this record label Third Man is that, apparently they don't put out CD's at all. So, what's really cool about this record label Third Man is that, apparently they don't put out CD's at all. You can't buy CD's of any of their albums. You can't buy CD's of any of their albums. Just records or digital releases only. Just records or digital releases only. Cause I feel like that's what it should be now. Cause I feel like that's what it should be now. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like putting out 45s still. And he's like putting out 45s still. He's putting out singles. He's putting out singles. It's really cool stuff. It's really cool stuff. But we're talking about his next album that he just announced called Lazaretto. But we're talking about his next album that he just announced called Lazaretto. It's coming out on May 10th, so pretty soon. It's coming out on May 10th, so pretty soon. And last month, they had previously announced a special package called the vault. And last month, they had previously announced a special package called the vault. The vault version, that included special art work and 40 page hard bound book. The vault version, that included special art work and 40 page hard bound book. Some really cool extras, but now they've announced an even crazier ultra LP version, that's what they're calling it. Some really cool extras, but now they've announced an even crazier ultra LP version, that's what they're calling it. That's cool. That's cool. The ultra LP version that's seriously for the biggest vinyl geek in your life. The ultra LP version that's seriously for the biggest vinyl geek in your life. [UNKNOWN] I think you might be stoked about as much as I am. [UNKNOWN] I think you might be stoked about as much as I am. I am. I am. So there's a video that goes along with this announcement. So there's a video that goes along with this announcement. It takes Jack White nine minutes and ten seconds, for him to describe all of the specific details and features you'll get with it. It takes Jack White nine minutes and ten seconds, for him to describe all of the specific details and features you'll get with it. But, I'm gonna break it down with you. But, I'm gonna break it down with you. Because nobody want's to watch a ten minute video about that. Because nobody want's to watch a ten minute video about that. Especially with Jack White. Especially with Jack White. Yeah. Yeah. Here are the coolest things about it. Here are the coolest things about it. first, the weird thing about this vinyl is that side a actually has backward grooves. first, the weird thing about this vinyl is that side a actually has backward grooves. So, you start the record off by playing it closest to the label. So, you start the record off by playing it closest to the label. Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Normally you'd start it on the edge. Normally you'd start it on the edge. Side a starts toward the label. Side a starts toward the label. You still have to play it in reverse. You still have to play it in reverse. And then it comes back out. And then it comes back out. Okay. Okay. Which is cool. Which is cool. I mean, the songs themselves aren't in reverse. I mean, the songs themselves aren't in reverse. Just how it appears on the record. Just how it appears on the record. So. So. Okay. Okay. To me, that's pointless. To me, that's pointless. Well, okay. Well, okay. Like nothing cool about that. Like nothing cool about that. Really? Really? Well, it's like, it changes nothing. Well, it's like, it changes nothing. Here's why it's cool. Here's why it's cool. Okay. Okay. Because, you know how, Because, you know how, Yes. Yes. Tell me why it's cool. Tell me why it's cool. You know how, like, on the last song, when you put it closest to the. You know how, like, on the last song, when you put it closest to the. Closest to the label. Closest to the label. Sure. Sure. Once their record finishes on one side. Once their record finishes on one side. It kinds just continues to loop back and forth. It kinds just continues to loop back and forth. Right. Right. It's called a locked groove. It's called a locked groove. Right. Right. Alright. Alright. And the locked groove is normally there so that the needle doesn't just jump out onto the label. And the locked groove is normally there so that the needle doesn't just jump out onto the label. Right, that you don't, you don't ruin the needle. Right, that you don't, you don't ruin the needle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it just kinda continues back and forth on this locked groove. Yeah, so it just kinda continues back and forth on this locked groove. Well he put the locked groove on side A on the outermost edge and then he put a, a little soundbite on that. Well he put the locked groove on side A on the outermost edge and then he put a, a little soundbite on that. So once you get to the edge of side A which is the outermost, it will kind of play this infinite loop of, of, little sound byte. So once you get to the edge of side A which is the outermost, it will kind of play this infinite loop of, of, little sound byte. That's cool. That's cool. It's really cool. It's really cool. But you could do that in the middle too. But you could do that in the middle too. You can do that in the middle too but. You can do that in the middle too but. Right. Right. The fact that it kind of plays from the inside out. The fact that it kind of plays from the inside out. Inside out, it just looks cool. Inside out, it just looks cool. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta kind of - You gotta kind of - You do have to have the record go in the opposite direction. You do have to have the record go in the opposite direction. Right? Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You. You. I think the record goes in the opposite direction. I think the record goes in the opposite direction. I don't think it does. I don't think it does. No it sounds like it's just the way it was cut. No it sounds like it's just the way it was cut. Oh, so the, the groove will follow -. Oh, so the, the groove will follow -. Yeah, it still goes clockwise. Yeah, it still goes clockwise. So, the same direction. So, the same direction. Inscribed from the inside to the outside. Inscribed from the inside to the outside. Okay. Okay. Kind of confusing to explain, but that's pretty cool, it'll play that little tone forever. Kind of confusing to explain, but that's pretty cool, it'll play that little tone forever. Here's the other thing, so on side two, when you flip it over, the first song on side two actually has two different intros that lead into the same part in the middle. Here's the other thing, so on side two, when you flip it over, the first song on side two actually has two different intros that lead into the same part in the middle. That's cool. That's cool. The first part is acoustic, the second part is electric, so depending on where you drop the needle, on the outer most groove or the one directly next to it. The first part is acoustic, the second part is electric, so depending on where you drop the needle, on the outer most groove or the one directly next to it. You'll either hear the intro play electriclly with amps or acoustically with an acoustic guitar. You'll either hear the intro play electriclly with amps or acoustically with an acoustic guitar. It's really cool so no matter what you do, no matter which you choose they'll eventually converge into the middle of the song. It's really cool so no matter what you do, no matter which you choose they'll eventually converge into the middle of the song. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, really awesome. Yeah, really awesome. That's right. That's right. And then finally, this is I think the coolest thing. And then finally, this is I think the coolest thing. There's actually two hidden tracks underneath the center label on both sides of the record. There's actually two hidden tracks underneath the center label on both sides of the record. Wow. Wow. So if you drop the needle directly onto the paper itself, it will play these hidden songs through the paper. So if you drop the needle directly onto the paper itself, it will play these hidden songs through the paper. It will play it through the paper? It will play it through the paper? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. It's crazy, right? It's crazy, right? But, here is even nuttier thing, that's one side of the hidden track is 78 RPMs. But, here is even nuttier thing, that's one side of the hidden track is 78 RPMs. Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Normally, a record's played at 33 RPMs. Normally, a record's played at 33 RPMs. This one plays at 78 RPMs. This one plays at 78 RPMs. But when you flip it over, the other hidden track on side B, is 45 RPMs. But when you flip it over, the other hidden track on side B, is 45 RPMs. So this record altogether technically has three speeds you can play it at. So this record altogether technically has three speeds you can play it at. Three speeds. Three speeds. It's got three speeds. It's got three speeds. Yeah. Yeah. Three. Three. That's amazing. That's amazing. So nuts, right? So nuts, right? It's very cool. It's very cool. I mean he's clearly on like this vinyl kick. I mean he's clearly on like this vinyl kick. Yeah. Yeah. But I just. But I just. I mean, I'm, I'm into it. I mean, I'm, I'm into it. I don't, you know, I, I don't know a lot of people who still have record players. I don't, you know, I, I don't know a lot of people who still have record players. Yeah, I mean for those who do have record players, I feel like the appeal is that it's, the novelty is in paying more attention to it. Yeah, I mean for those who do have record players, I feel like the appeal is that it's, the novelty is in paying more attention to it. Having all the details you get if it's the labels, and the artwork, and the inserts. Having all the details you get if it's the labels, and the artwork, and the inserts. This just adds way more fun to it, and it's only 20 bucks. This just adds way more fun to it, and it's only 20 bucks. Yeah, that's pretty neat. Yeah, that's pretty neat. You can pre-order it for 20 bucks. You can pre-order it for 20 bucks. That's less, you know, less than the cost for what you would pay at a lot of used vinyl stores. That's less, you know, less than the cost for what you would pay at a lot of used vinyl stores. Only Jack White can get away with this. Only Jack White can get away with this. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Right? So cool. So cool. It's funny you bring that up because I was looking today at one of my favorite bands, Mastodon, and they have a, their new record, they're doing like this massive pre-release for, and it's like a $70 thing and it's 2 LPs. It's funny you bring that up because I was looking today at one of my favorite bands, Mastodon, and they have a, their new record, they're doing like this massive pre-release for, and it's like a $70 thing and it's 2 LPs. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. And I'm just like, everyone's into that, into that movement now again. And I'm just like, everyone's into that, into that movement now again. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool cuz a lot of those, albums will come with a ticket to the show in your city. It's cool cuz a lot of those, albums will come with a ticket to the show in your city. Right. Right. You get both and then when yo go the show itself, a lot of the merch tables will include special press vinyl. You get both and then when yo go the show itself, a lot of the merch tables will include special press vinyl. Like color vinyl sold only at that show. Like color vinyl sold only at that show. That's pretty cool too. That's pretty cool too. It is cool. It is cool. I, I mean I don't know. I, I mean I don't know. I'm just a fan of anything limited edition. I'm just a fan of anything limited edition. Like when you say something is limited edition I will buy it. Like when you say something is limited edition I will buy it. I don't care if it's one of 2 million I'll still get into it. I don't care if it's one of 2 million I'll still get into it. As long as it's labeled too. As long as it's labeled too. I just I don't know if I'm like, you know ready to like change the, the whole way I listen to music around. I just I don't know if I'm like, you know ready to like change the, the whole way I listen to music around. Yeah. Yeah. It does feel good to start paying for music [LAUGH] by the way. It does feel good to start paying for music [LAUGH] by the way. Oh, I'm, I gotta [CROSSTALK]. Oh, I'm, I gotta [CROSSTALK]. Maybe we are generation I will say to keep abroad got away with, you know, not paying for music for 20 years, 25 years. Maybe we are generation I will say to keep abroad got away with, you know, not paying for music for 20 years, 25 years. So, yeah, if you could put a little bit of money back [CROSSTALK] it's not the worst. So, yeah, if you could put a little bit of money back [CROSSTALK] it's not the worst. Is that what it is? Is that what it is? Just like this whole big guilt thing? Just like this whole big guilt thing? Yeah [LAUGH] basically. Yeah [LAUGH] basically. I feel like I'm taking it off my shoulders, one record at a time. I feel like I'm taking it off my shoulders, one record at a time. This doesn't absolve you of all your freaking transgressions. This doesn't absolve you of all your freaking transgressions. Not me, us, ours. Not me, us, ours. So, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, a lot of these bands are doing that. I mean, a lot of these bands are doing that. And I'm not gonna lie. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, I was super intrigued when I saw the math on that thing. Like, I was super intrigued when I saw the math on that thing. Look at this. Look at this. It's like 280 gram LP vinyls. It's like 280 gram LP vinyls. Four exclusive lithographs derived from album artwork. Four exclusive lithographs derived from album artwork. Yeah. Yeah. And then you get the CD as well. And then you get the CD as well. The digital version, yeah. The digital version, yeah. That's pretty rad, man. That's pretty rad, man. That's a crazy looking cover. That's a crazy looking cover. Right? Right? Oh my God. Oh my God. Look at the artwork. Look at the artwork. It's bonkers. It's bonkers. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Wow. Wow. All the drugs in the world can't explain where this came from [LAUGH]. All the drugs in the world can't explain where this came from [LAUGH]. Wait go up. Wait go up. Does that say you're gonna get an advanced copy of the next release they put out? Does that say you're gonna get an advanced copy of the next release they put out? No no no. No no no. What does that mean? What does that mean? So, so you'll get, you get the two, in two records. So, so you'll get, you get the two, in two records. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Right? Right? That's what the two 180 gram LP means? That's what the two 180 gram LP means? Right? Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What does that bottom note say? What does that bottom note say? Download of another album. Download of another album. So you'll get another. So you'll get another. So they'll give you a digital version of one of the songs before it's leaked, released. So they'll give you a digital version of one of the songs before it's leaked, released. So the next single on this record. So the next single on this record. Right. Right. Okay, gotcha. Okay, gotcha. It's Wednesday, May 7th, 2014, I'm Ariel Nunez and from our CBS studio in New York City, welcome to The 404. It's Wednesday, May 7th, 2014, I'm Ariel Nunez and from our CBS studio in New York City, welcome to The 404. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] What's up everyone? What's up everyone? Thank you for tuning in to The 404 Show. Thank you for tuning in to The 404 Show. I'm Jeff Backalaur. I'm Jeff Backalaur. I'm Justin Yew. I'm Justin Yew. Hope you guys are having a great day today, we sure are. Hope you guys are having a great day today, we sure are. We got a lot of stories to get to and some emails. We got a lot of stories to get to and some emails. Some interactions. Some interactions. Yeah. Yeah. And what do we got going on today man? And what do we got going on today man? I liked the show yesterday. I liked the show yesterday. I did too. I did too. One, because I didn't have to deal with it. One, because I didn't have to deal with it. But two, it was just a really funny episode. But two, it was just a really funny episode. I thought it was too, right? I thought it was too, right? I didn't realize it's gonna kinda break your balls that much. I didn't realize it's gonna kinda break your balls that much. The first time Mark Maron was on the show, he seemed kind of nice. The first time Mark Maron was on the show, he seemed kind of nice. He was really low key. He was really low key. And I feel like the second time around, the fact that he was a little bit meaner is a good thing for me. And I feel like the second time around, the fact that he was a little bit meaner is a good thing for me. I thought-. I thought-. That probably means he was trying to run you through the ringer, cuz her like you. That probably means he was trying to run you through the ringer, cuz her like you. I, that's what I. I, that's what I. And, you can clearly take it. And, you can clearly take it. Well, that's what I would, I mean, I tell him, like, rationalizing it. Well, that's what I would, I mean, I tell him, like, rationalizing it. Or, he's just a ****. Or, he's just a ****. Well, he's definitely, like, that's [CROSSTALK]. Well, he's definitely, like, that's [CROSSTALK]. He's prickly. He's prickly. He's prickly. He's prickly. Right? Right? He's a little rough. He's a little rough. But, like, I'll be totally honest. But, like, I'll be totally honest. Yesterday was one of the, my favorite interviews I've ever done. Yesterday was one of the, my favorite interviews I've ever done. Really? Really? Definitely. Definitely. I had so much fun doing that. I had so much fun doing that. Yeah. Yeah. So, a lot of people emailed, and they were like, it was good. So, a lot of people emailed, and they were like, it was good. [CROSSTALK] Kind of awkward. [CROSSTALK] Kind of awkward. I don't know about awkward. I don't know about awkward. Some people were saying it was kinda awkward. Some people were saying it was kinda awkward. I think because if you don't know who Mark Meyer is then you're like why is this guy caring so much about what's behind the table. I think because if you don't know who Mark Meyer is then you're like why is this guy caring so much about what's behind the table. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. He kinda blew us up. He kinda blew us up. It was funny though. It was funny though. It was really funny and he found my contact solution which I had actually been looking for. It was really funny and he found my contact solution which I had actually been looking for. I, nice. I, nice. That's good. That's good. At least someone got something positive out of that. At least someone got something positive out of that. I no I really did enjoy it, and I thought it was awesome. I no I really did enjoy it, and I thought it was awesome. I, like I said I, I don't think I've had more fun interviewing somebody. I, like I said I, I don't think I've had more fun interviewing somebody. And I, I, I don't know, maybe people like didn't get it? And I, I, I don't know, maybe people like didn't get it? Where it was sort of this like joshing around thing? Where it was sort of this like joshing around thing? Yeah. Yeah. But you're totally right. But you're totally right. Like,. Like,. I only really bust balls of people who I, who I like. I only really bust balls of people who I, who I like. And that's all I do. And that's all I do. Like, for my friends, all I do is make fun of them. Like, for my friends, all I do is make fun of them. I don't even like care, like I don't even ask them how they're doing. I don't even like care, like I don't even ask them how they're doing. It's just non-stop making fun of them. It's just non-stop making fun of them. That's how this podcast is too. That's how this podcast is too. Sure. Sure. Basically sitting down for an interview with Marc Maron is like getting into a fight with your girlfriend. Basically sitting down for an interview with Marc Maron is like getting into a fight with your girlfriend. Or boyfriend, or your [UNKNOWN] whatever. Or boyfriend, or your [UNKNOWN] whatever. Well, I'd much rather interview Marc Maron than fight with [INAUDIBLE] Well, I'd much rather interview Marc Maron than fight with [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGH] It's like, it always starts off really angry and you say things you don't mean. [LAUGH] It's like, it always starts off really angry and you say things you don't mean. Yeah. Yeah. And then eventually towards the end of the 45 minute interview you start feeling like the, okay what do we both need to work on? And then eventually towards the end of the 45 minute interview you start feeling like the, okay what do we both need to work on? She, I, look. She, I, look. I mean, I know it was all good spirited, cause he wrote me after and he said. I mean, I know it was all good spirited, cause he wrote me after and he said. No he didn't. No he didn't. He's like, that was fun. He's like, that was fun. He's like, I'm a ball buster, you can take it. He's like, I'm a ball buster, you can take it. It's great. It's great. That's cool, yeah. That's cool, yeah. So, I had a blast. So, I had a blast. I really can't be any happier with how that went. I really can't be any happier with how that went. Yeah. Yeah. So go back to yesterdays show and listen to it. So go back to yesterdays show and listen to it. And, and I got emails from people who said like. And, and I got emails from people who said like. Look, I've never listened to your show on Twitter. Look, I've never listened to your show on Twitter. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. I never listened to your show but that was great. I never listened to your show but that was great. Oh, cool. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. So,if that, if we can get one new listener from yesterday. So,if that, if we can get one new listener from yesterday. Man. Man. That's all I care about. That's all I care about. If I had been sitting up here, if it was me or Ariel, I feel like we would have pulled the jack black in high fidelity and just taken one of these microphones and [CROSSTALK] If I had been sitting up here, if it was me or Ariel, I feel like we would have pulled the jack black in high fidelity and just taken one of these microphones and [CROSSTALK] [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. It's like the thing. It's like the thing. Like I knew ex, I knew, I, nothing went off course yesterday. Like I knew ex, I knew, I, nothing went off course yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Like nothing happened yesterday where I was like, oh I didn't and that was a curveball, I wasn't prepared for that one. Like nothing happened yesterday where I was like, oh I didn't and that was a curveball, I wasn't prepared for that one. You can't let too much time pass after his insult before your comeback. You can't let too much time pass after his insult before your comeback. That's the thing. That's the thing. It's hard. It's hard. Of course. Of course. Yeah, I thought I was keeping up with him, right? Yeah, I thought I was keeping up with him, right? Yeah, you were doing really well. Yeah, you were doing really well. I think I did, I think that was like the best part of that. I think I did, I think that was like the best part of that. Yeah, it, it was fine. Yeah, it, it was fine. You can probably hear my laughter in the background. You can probably hear my laughter in the background. You can. You can. Of that episode, which is. Of that episode, which is. Neither good or bad. Neither good or bad. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I heard it while we were shooting. I heard it while we were shooting. Yeah, like it or not. Yeah, like it or not. I am there. I am there. But seriously, such a blast. But seriously, such a blast. I had such a good time with him and go back and listen to yesterday's show. I had such a good time with him and go back and listen to yesterday's show. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. alright. alright. Back to reality. Back to reality. What do we have cooking today? What do we have cooking today? Alright. Alright. So today we have a bunch of ep bunch of stories I'm really excited to talk about. So today we have a bunch of ep bunch of stories I'm really excited to talk about. We're gonna talk about zapping your brain with spark plugs to improve your video-gaming skills. We're gonna talk about zapping your brain with spark plugs to improve your video-gaming skills. Okay. Okay. Totally normal. Totally normal. Yeah, that sounds fine. Yeah, that sounds fine. Then we're gonna talk about how Jack Black is planning to single-handedly bring everybody back to vinyl. Then we're gonna talk about how Jack Black is planning to single-handedly bring everybody back to vinyl. I'm really excited to talk about that. I'm really excited to talk about that. Jack White. Jack White. What'd I say? What'd I say? You said Jack Black You said Jack Black Oh, that's the second Jack Black reference. Oh, that's the second Jack Black reference. Yeah. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Jack White. [CROSSTALK] Jack White. Although Jack Black is very talented. Although Jack Black is very talented. He is. He is. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. And then we're gonna talk about a startup that's straining the relationship between the rich and the poor even more in San Francisco. And then we're gonna talk about a startup that's straining the relationship between the rich and the poor even more in San Francisco. That's already a really strained relationship. That's already a really strained relationship. But they're basically auctioning off public spaces. But they're basically auctioning off public spaces. Okay. Okay. We'll tell you how they're doing that and why people are pissed off about it. We'll tell you how they're doing that and why people are pissed off about it. The we'll talk about some video game news. The we'll talk about some video game news. Nintendo continues to post devastating losses. Nintendo continues to post devastating losses. This is bad, this. This is bad, this. Really, really bad. Really, really bad. Really bad. Really bad. So, in advance of E3 which is coming up we're gonna talk about maybe what we can expect from the company. So, in advance of E3 which is coming up we're gonna talk about maybe what we can expect from the company. And then we're gonna finish up. And then we're gonna finish up. A story about Ed Boon who's the creator of Mortal Kombat. A story about Ed Boon who's the creator of Mortal Kombat. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. He's been tweeting out some sort of mysterious numbers. He's been tweeting out some sort of mysterious numbers. Right. Right. We've been talking about like cryptography lately and, and numbers and things. We've been talking about like cryptography lately and, and numbers and things. So. So. He's doing his own thing. He's doing his own thing. An extra mystery for you guys at the end of the, the episode today. An extra mystery for you guys at the end of the, the episode today. Great. Great. And then some emails we'll get to if we can. And then some emails we'll get to if we can. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Let's dive right in. Let's dive right in. Yeah, all right, so electroshock therapy. Yeah, all right, so electroshock therapy. You haven't really heard about it in a while. You haven't really heard about it in a while. Although it's- Although it's- Usually frowned upon. Usually frowned upon. Usually frowned upon but still being used to treat depression and schizophrenia. Usually frowned upon but still being used to treat depression and schizophrenia. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that. Are you sure? Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah. In this country? In this country? In this country, yeah. In this country, yeah. But, obviously, it's done with a lot of anesthesia and clinicians looking around at you to make sure you're okay. But, obviously, it's done with a lot of anesthesia and clinicians looking around at you to make sure you're okay. Okay. Okay. It's not a diy thing. It's not a diy thing. You don't just shock yourself. You don't just shock yourself. Yeah, they don't, like, make you chomp down on a wooden spoon. Yeah, they don't, like, make you chomp down on a wooden spoon. No. No. I read that the other day. I read that the other day. Yeah. Yeah. I keep seeing. I keep seeing. The vision of like American horror story. The vision of like American horror story. Yeah. Yeah. In my head when I, when I hear shock therapy. In my head when I, when I hear shock therapy. Wait, I haven't watched that because. Wait, I haven't watched that because. The second season they did that a lot. The second season they did that a lot. They just hooked people to like a chair? They just hooked people to like a chair? Yeah, it was like a crazy insane asylum. Yeah, it was like a crazy insane asylum. And they thought they could like shock the madness out of people. And they thought they could like shock the madness out of people. Right. Right. I think it works, or it's just a placebo thing or it just forces people to concentrate. I think it works, or it's just a placebo thing or it just forces people to concentrate. Right. Right. Either way hobbyists right, they're always trying to take a DIY approach to things. Either way hobbyists right, they're always trying to take a DIY approach to things. And in this case a small group of interested parties. And in this case a small group of interested parties. They're learning how to zap their own brains with using, this sounds crazy but, a battery with alligator clips connected to a circuit and two kitchen sponges. They're learning how to zap their own brains with using, this sounds crazy but, a battery with alligator clips connected to a circuit and two kitchen sponges. Those sponges are attached to a, a simple sweatband you know, that you could buy at any sports store. Those sponges are attached to a, a simple sweatband you know, that you could buy at any sports store. You rig that up, put it on their head and then using that battery, they'll actually send electrical pulses into their own brain. You rig that up, put it on their head and then using that battery, they'll actually send electrical pulses into their own brain. Scott, you don't want to do that. Scott, you don't want to do that. And it's, this is, this is funny. And it's, this is, this is funny. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. He's just like, I love being shocked. He's just like, I love being shocked. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing, when you imagine people doing this. And that's the thing, when you imagine people doing this. I don't know. I don't know. For me I'm always imagining like some meth head or coke head in a basement somewhere in the middle of America. For me I'm always imagining like some meth head or coke head in a basement somewhere in the middle of America. But this is actually professionals. But this is actually professionals. Sort of middle-aged professionals that's that's being profiled in this homebrew. Sort of middle-aged professionals that's that's being profiled in this homebrew. So I mean, I think it's fair that we separate like you know, electro-shock therapy. So I mean, I think it's fair that we separate like you know, electro-shock therapy. Yeah. Yeah. From DIY, like, brain stimulation. From DIY, like, brain stimulation. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Like once, like if you've ever gone through physical therapy. Like once, like if you've ever gone through physical therapy. There's, what do they call that machine. There's, what do they call that machine. Oh, the chiropractic machine where the strap. Oh, the chiropractic machine where the strap. The thing that like stimulates your muscles. The thing that like stimulates your muscles. Like that's what we're kind of talking about here. Like that's what we're kind of talking about here. Sort of, yeah. Sort of, yeah. We're not talking about like actual [NOISE] [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] that's an extreme. We're not talking about like actual [NOISE] [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] that's an extreme. Like the Looney Tunes version of it. Like the Looney Tunes version of it. Right? Right? And you know like. And you know like. You know, take off and there's like smoke coming from your skull. You know, take off and there's like smoke coming from your skull. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Right? Right? So there's a big difference here. So there's a big difference here. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, we're talking about 2 milli-amps of electricity which is less than a nine volt battery. So this is, we're talking about 2 milli-amps of electricity which is less than a nine volt battery. Right. Right. And anyone who had never licked a nine volt battery before. And anyone who had never licked a nine volt battery before. That's perfectly healthy. That's perfectly healthy. I'm just saying, my childhood was weird. I'm just saying, my childhood was weird. Yeah, but, not that bad. Yeah, but, not that bad. You're basically sending two milliamps of electricity through a, the part of your brain that controls reaction time. You're basically sending two milliamps of electricity through a, the part of your brain that controls reaction time. Right. Right. Which is the prefrontal cortex. Which is the prefrontal cortex. Among, other things, besides reaction. Among, other things, besides reaction. And we're talking about here is, hopefully with doing this and this is what a lot of, proponents of it say that it can help with memory loss or things like rapid learning. And we're talking about here is, hopefully with doing this and this is what a lot of, proponents of it say that it can help with memory loss or things like rapid learning. If you have a, you know, a big test coming up and you're a student, you can shock yourself into studying better. If you have a, you know, a big test coming up and you're a student, you can shock yourself into studying better. And some are taking it to alleviate chronic pain, depression, even things like stroke recoveries. And some are taking it to alleviate chronic pain, depression, even things like stroke recoveries. You're losing movement, things like that. You're losing movement, things like that. They're hoping that shock therapy can help with alongside physical therapy. They're hoping that shock therapy can help with alongside physical therapy. And it's working. And it's working. You know a lot of academic papers, and that's what this Wired article is talking about. You know a lot of academic papers, and that's what this Wired article is talking about. Scientists and doctors are starting to consider it again as a significant way to research alternative health methods. Scientists and doctors are starting to consider it again as a significant way to research alternative health methods. But they're sort of taking it, some are taking it upon themselves to build a community out of it. But they're sort of taking it, some are taking it upon themselves to build a community out of it. And even trying to make money on it. And even trying to make money on it. Yeah, that's always what's going to happen. Yeah, that's always what's going to happen. You know, they're gonna be like, oh this will cure your XYZ. You know, they're gonna be like, oh this will cure your XYZ. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so quick on this, other link that I put in the rundown. Yeah, so quick on this, other link that I put in the rundown. When I talk about others capitalizing on it, I found this one product in my research for this, and it's called the, let's see, where in the world was this. When I talk about others capitalizing on it, I found this one product in my research for this, and it's called the, let's see, where in the world was this. Is it the trans-cranial direct current stimulation for gamers? Is it the trans-cranial direct current stimulation for gamers? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's called the folk us. So it's called the folk us. And, you can go to foc.us. And, you can go to foc.us. The Focus. The Focus. Oh, foc us, we're in trouble. Oh, foc us, we're in trouble. Foc us. Foc us. Yeah. Yeah. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] And so they're basically capitalizing on what they call TDCS. And so they're basically capitalizing on what they call TDCS. That's Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation. That's Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation. Okay. Okay. And, you could see in this picture here. And, you could see in this picture here. The company is marketing an electro-shot headset for gamers. The company is marketing an electro-shot headset for gamers. What the [UNKNOWN]? What the [UNKNOWN]? It's basically a head band that, you know, attaches to those frontal lobes to increase the plasticity of your brain, of your brain, and make synapses fire faster by over-clocking it, hopefully reducing your reaction times and increasing your skill level in playing video games. It's basically a head band that, you know, attaches to those frontal lobes to increase the plasticity of your brain, of your brain, and make synapses fire faster by over-clocking it, hopefully reducing your reaction times and increasing your skill level in playing video games. Okay, let's be honest. Okay, let's be honest. How many of these have they sold? How many of these have they sold? A lot. A lot. No way. No way. Yes. Yes. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. What are you doing buying a shock machine for video games? What are you doing buying a shock machine for video games? Well, so they had a first round of funding, right? Well, so they had a first round of funding, right? And they are offering pre-orders. And they are offering pre-orders. They sold out the first batch of 300,000. They sold out the first batch of 300,000. Then there was a second batch of 300,000 they also manufactured after that. Then there was a second batch of 300,000 they also manufactured after that. Those all sold out immediately too and you can now pre order the third. Those all sold out immediately too and you can now pre order the third. What the hells our logo during there? What the hells our logo during there? Yeah we've written about it too, that's the scary part. Yeah we've written about it too, that's the scary part. What pisses me of is there, there passing it off as over clocking your brain. What pisses me of is there, there passing it off as over clocking your brain. Yeah yeah. Yeah yeah. It's basically like we've talked about transhumanism in the past, it's making yourself sort of a machine, cyborg. It's basically like we've talked about transhumanism in the past, it's making yourself sort of a machine, cyborg. Right. Right. This is the first step in that. This is the first step in that. The cool thing about this is the way they market it. The cool thing about this is the way they market it. So, not only do they say that, not only do they say that, while you wear the headband, and you're playing it, it'll increase your skill level, when you take it off. So, not only do they say that, not only do they say that, while you wear the headband, and you're playing it, it'll increase your skill level, when you take it off. Your brain sort of remains in this neuroplasticity mode, which means, even after you remove it, your brain is still hard wired to learn faster. Your brain sort of remains in this neuroplasticity mode, which means, even after you remove it, your brain is still hard wired to learn faster. According to what their marketing says. According to what their marketing says. Okay. Okay. So, sounds kind of cool. So, sounds kind of cool. [LAUGH] You know, if you can increase your intelligence, even after you take it off. [LAUGH] You know, if you can increase your intelligence, even after you take it off. It's more reaction time, right? It's more reaction time, right? Reaction time, yeah. Reaction time, yeah. Technically. Technically. I think the thing that's worth noting here is that they're able to skirt FDA policies. I think the thing that's worth noting here is that they're able to skirt FDA policies. By advertising it as a video game. By advertising it as a video game. oh. oh. Accessory. Accessory. Okay. Okay. So a lot of DIY TDCS proficients are using this but not for video games. So a lot of DIY TDCS proficients are using this but not for video games. [CROSSTALK] They're using it to increase their memory or for the stroke stuff, everything we talked about earlier. [CROSSTALK] They're using it to increase their memory or for the stroke stuff, everything we talked about earlier. It's not expensive either, it's $250. It's not expensive either, it's $250. No, that's expensive. No, that's expensive. Is that expensive, I mean it's less than the. Is that expensive, I mean it's less than the. To over clock your brains. To over clock your brains. Less than the Oculus, like. Less than the Oculus, like. But there's nothing to, they're totally different products. But there's nothing to, they're totally different products. If it works then, I mean, I don't know, talk about just video game accessories in general. If it works then, I mean, I don't know, talk about just video game accessories in general. I just don't like the way they're advertising. I just don't like the way they're advertising. Yeah. Yeah. They're saying use the force. They're saying use the force. Let the force of electricity excite your neurons into firing faster. Let the force of electricity excite your neurons into firing faster. Okay, when I read that. Okay, when I read that. I read, oh, shock your brain. I read, oh, shock your brain. That's not something I wanna do. That's not something I wanna do. Yeah. Yeah. And with an iPhone app that's connected to it by bluetooth. And with an iPhone app that's connected to it by bluetooth. 30 day money back guarantee, so if you're not completely a vegetable by the end of the month, 30 day money back guarantee, so if you're not completely a vegetable by the end of the month, Yeah. Yeah. You can get your money back. You can get your money back. The technology isn't necessarily what worries me it's how small the manual is and the fact that people can control this themselves. The technology isn't necessarily what worries me it's how small the manual is and the fact that people can control this themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's so much room for error here and the first step is gonna be coming really soon. Like there's so much room for error here and the first step is gonna be coming really soon. Are we vulnerable? Are we vulnerable? Well I don't know if we should say that. Well I don't know if we should say that. I don't know, I mean like what if you get wet or something while you're using this? I don't know, I mean like what if you get wet or something while you're using this? Would that like fry your brain? Would that like fry your brain? Or it could all just be bs. Or it could all just be bs. Right like maybe the electroshock aren't enough to do anything. Right like maybe the electroshock aren't enough to do anything. This is all a placebo. This is all a placebo. I think that's the case. I think that's the case. No I definitely think that's the case. No I definitely think that's the case. Yeah. Yeah. Right this is like the equivalent of like the Those bracelets people wear. Right this is like the equivalent of like the Those bracelets people wear. Right yeah right. Right yeah right. To help their balance. To help their balance. They think there's like some magnet like the polar magnets of the planet are gonna make them like, you know [CROSSTALK]. They think there's like some magnet like the polar magnets of the planet are gonna make them like, you know [CROSSTALK]. Right. Right. Walk better. Walk better. Yeah, you've seen that people in malls like, kiosk? Yeah, you've seen that people in malls like, kiosk? [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. They have those on. They have those on. They do like a series of test. They do like a series of test. Like, look check it out! Like, look check it out! I can't push your arm down that's [CROSSTALK] I can't push your arm down that's [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. Because you're wearing this band. Because you're wearing this band. Right exactly. Right exactly. Because they've already pushed our arm down once. Because they've already pushed our arm down once. You know, the force of it. You know, the force of it. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] I mean, we were, we were in agreement that this is like the same category, right? I mean, we were, we were in agreement that this is like the same category, right? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, they're need. I mean, they're need. I don't know. I don't know. Like if I'm gonna buy this BS that they're shoveling. Like if I'm gonna buy this BS that they're shoveling. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna need testimonies from like MIT people. I'm gonna need testimonies from like MIT people. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Where they're like, yep, fricking makes you susceptible to, to learning better and. Where they're like, yep, fricking makes you susceptible to, to learning better and. Yeah. Yeah. And have faster reaction times. And have faster reaction times. You could say that if. You could say that if. [CROSSTALK] Bozo being like, you know. [CROSSTALK] Bozo being like, you know. If you're like pulling an all nighter, and it's four in the morning, then a couple electro shocks to keep your focus. If you're like pulling an all nighter, and it's four in the morning, then a couple electro shocks to keep your focus. Ya, it's probably gonna do you good even if it doesn't do anything to your brain. Ya, it's probably gonna do you good even if it doesn't do anything to your brain. Look. Look. Just to keep you paying attention and not falling asleep. Just to keep you paying attention and not falling asleep. I put this in the same category as the magnetic bracelets which are complete ****. I put this in the same category as the magnetic bracelets which are complete ****. And the stuff where like people, you know, I, I once had a friend who wanted to quit smoking. And the stuff where like people, you know, I, I once had a friend who wanted to quit smoking. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And, he tried. And, he tried. He couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. So he went and got shocked. So he went and got shocked. Oh okay. Oh okay. From like a guy in Queens. From like a guy in Queens. Like this guy in a garage in Queens and he explained to my friend that the nicotine receptors are located conveniently behind your ear lobe and he got shocked. Like this guy in a garage in Queens and he explained to my friend that the nicotine receptors are located conveniently behind your ear lobe and he got shocked. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. And he got shocked. And he got shocked. Right. Right. Like oh I need to stop smoking. Like oh I need to stop smoking. It's not, clearly that's bull ****. It's not, clearly that's bull ****. But it's not the fact that your receptors are in your ear, it's the fact that you are doing something traumatic, and you are like introducing this very radical and unconventional process into your life that I think acts as, what you said, a placebo effect. But it's not the fact that your receptors are in your ear, it's the fact that you are doing something traumatic, and you are like introducing this very radical and unconventional process into your life that I think acts as, what you said, a placebo effect. And says, oh, okay. And says, oh, okay. I'm gonna quit smoking. I'm gonna quit smoking. Yeah. Yeah. Or I'm gonna do whatever. Or I'm gonna do whatever. Or my brain's gonna fire quicker. Or my brain's gonna fire quicker. Or it develops this response to where, you know? Or it develops this response to where, you know? Like if every time you think about smoking, you're gonna remember this pain that you felt. Like if every time you think about smoking, you're gonna remember this pain that you felt. And maybe that would keep you from it. And maybe that would keep you from it. It's not even pain. It's not even pain. Like you said, it didn't hurt. Like you said, it didn't hurt. It didn't hurt at all? It didn't hurt at all? It was, it was like that massaging thing. It was, it was like that massaging thing. Mm, okay. Mm, okay. For the physical therapy. For the physical therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that called? What is that called? It's some sort of, like. It's some sort of, like. Stimulus. Stimulus. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I have no idea. I have no idea. They used to sell it as work out thing. They used to sell it as work out thing. Yeah. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Where they would just like work your abs out. Where they would just like work your abs out. Build up your, yeah [LAUGH]. Build up your, yeah [LAUGH]. Put patches on like. Put patches on like. You can sit on the couch, eat popcorn, and be working out. You can sit on the couch, eat popcorn, and be working out. Yeah, just that works. Yeah, just that works. No, it doesn't work. No, it doesn't work. If that worked, everybody would be buying one. If that worked, everybody would be buying one. Well, I guess there is some sort of benefit in physical therapy. Well, I guess there is some sort of benefit in physical therapy. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely for people that have tight muscles or things like that from sitting in an office chair all day. Definitely for people that have tight muscles or things like that from sitting in an office chair all day. Right. Right. That may be BS too. That may be BS too. I don't know about chiropractic work. I don't know about chiropractic work. [CROSSTALK] I feel like the entire practice of chiropractic work is BS. [CROSSTALK] I feel like the entire practice of chiropractic work is BS. You're not really going to hear an argument from me on that. You're not really going to hear an argument from me on that. I mean both of us have seen chiropractors for different reasons, and I mean both of us have seen chiropractors for different reasons, and No, I've never been to one. No, I've never been to one. Oh, you haven't seen one? Oh, you haven't seen one? No. No. Because we've talked about this a few times. Because we've talked about this a few times. Stace went to one, and like ten minutes into the appointment I like leaned over and went Stace, this guy is full of ****. Stace went to one, and like ten minutes into the appointment I like leaned over and went Stace, this guy is full of ****. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like I know but it's free, so I'm just gonna hang out. And she's like I know but it's free, so I'm just gonna hang out. It would be better if they did all have that like soft Asian music playing, with like the waterfall going on. It would be better if they did all have that like soft Asian music playing, with like the waterfall going on. Right. Right. And like dream catchers everywhere. And like dream catchers everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Like they didn't take that whole holistic approach with it and just went full on clinical, went full clinical with it. Like they didn't take that whole holistic approach with it and just went full on clinical, went full clinical with it. Right. Right. There's not enough dudes wearing white lab coats. There's not enough dudes wearing white lab coats. Yeah, that would make it a little bit more confident. Yeah, that would make it a little bit more confident. Like, if you're gonna lie to me, give me the whole package. Like, if you're gonna lie to me, give me the whole package. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sell it to me. Sell it to me. Yeah, don't wear a kimono when you come out Yeah, don't wear a kimono when you come out Exactly, and don't, like, say like, before you enter my room you gotta take off my shoes Exactly, and don't, like, say like, before you enter my room you gotta take off my shoes Yeah. Yeah. And like wash my hands in special water. And like wash my hands in special water. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know? You know? Like the machine, I feel like they just hook you up to that so they don't have to be in the room to see you react to the ****. Like the machine, I feel like they just hook you up to that so they don't have to be in the room to see you react to the ****. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's. It's not good. It's not good. Either way we're talking up this stuff that's in the same category. Either way we're talking up this stuff that's in the same category. Yeah. Yeah. It's not gonna kill you. It's not gonna kill you. But it isn't doing anything you want a big stimulus, you want a big kick in the ****? But it isn't doing anything you want a big stimulus, you want a big kick in the ****? Drink a double espresso. Drink a double espresso. That is guaranteed to make you more responsive and a little more hyper. That is guaranteed to make you more responsive and a little more hyper. Right. Right. Right. Right. Like that's, like, when I need a pick-me-up before a hockey game. Like that's, like, when I need a pick-me-up before a hockey game. I take a shot of espresso. I take a shot of espresso. And yeah, it works. And yeah, it works. Probably gonna explode my heart, but either way, Probably gonna explode my heart, but either way, Every once in a while. Every once in a while. Gettin' that desired result. Gettin' that desired result. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of Ritalin never hurt anybody either. A little bit of Ritalin never hurt anybody either. That I can't endorse. That I can't endorse. Okay. Okay. Caffeine, I can. Caffeine, I can. [LAUGH] So that's transhumanism. [LAUGH] So that's transhumanism. Let's move on to a subject a little less serious. Let's move on to a subject a little less serious. Jack White. Jack White. So Jack White has a label called Third Man records, right? So Jack White has a label called Third Man records, right? And anybody whose read stuff about the White Stripes or Jack White's record label Third Man. And anybody whose read stuff about the White Stripes or Jack White's record label Third Man. He's all about vinyl. He's all about vinyl. I mean he's really single handedly pushing pushing it back into the mainstream. I mean he's really single handedly pushing pushing it back into the mainstream. So, what's really cool about this record label Third Man is that, apparently they don't put out CD's at all. So, what's really cool about this record label Third Man is that, apparently they don't put out CD's at all. You can't buy CD's of any of their albums. You can't buy CD's of any of their albums. Just records or digital releases only. Just records or digital releases only. Cause I feel like that's what it should be now. Cause I feel like that's what it should be now. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like putting out 45s still. And he's like putting out 45s still. He's putting out singles. He's putting out singles. It's really cool stuff. It's really cool stuff. But we're talking about his next album that he just announced called Lazaretto. But we're talking about his next album that he just announced called Lazaretto. It's coming out on May 10th, so pretty soon. It's coming out on May 10th, so pretty soon. And last month, they had previously announced a special package called the vault. And last month, they had previously announced a special package called the vault. The vault version, that included special art work and 40 page hard bound book. The vault version, that included special art work and 40 page hard bound book. Some really cool extras, but now they've announced an even crazier ultra LP version, that's what they're calling it. Some really cool extras, but now they've announced an even crazier ultra LP version, that's what they're calling it. That's cool. That's cool. The ultra LP version that's seriously for the biggest vinyl geek in your life. The ultra LP version that's seriously for the biggest vinyl geek in your life. [UNKNOWN] I think you might be stoked about as much as I am. [UNKNOWN] I think you might be stoked about as much as I am. I am. I am. So there's a video that goes along with this announcement. So there's a video that goes along with this announcement. It takes Jack White nine minutes and ten seconds, for him to describe all of the specific details and features you'll get with it. It takes Jack White nine minutes and ten seconds, for him to describe all of the specific details and features you'll get with it. But, I'm gonna break it down with you. But, I'm gonna break it down with you. Because nobody want's to watch a ten minute video about that. Because nobody want's to watch a ten minute video about that. Especially with Jack White. Especially with Jack White. Yeah. Yeah. Here are the coolest things about it. Here are the coolest things about it. first, the weird thing about this vinyl is that side a actually has backward grooves. first, the weird thing about this vinyl is that side a actually has backward grooves. So, you start the record off by playing it closest to the label. So, you start the record off by playing it closest to the label. Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Normally you'd start it on the edge. Normally you'd start it on the edge. Side a starts toward the label. Side a starts toward the label. You still have to play it in reverse. You still have to play it in reverse. And then it comes back out. And then it comes back out. Okay. Okay. Which is cool. Which is cool. I mean, the songs themselves aren't in reverse. I mean, the songs themselves aren't in reverse. Just how it appears on the record. Just how it appears on the record. So. So. Okay. Okay. To me, that's pointless. To me, that's pointless. Well, okay. Well, okay. Like nothing cool about that. Like nothing cool about that. Really? Really? Well, it's like, it changes nothing. Well, it's like, it changes nothing. Here's why it's cool. Here's why it's cool. Okay. Okay. Because, you know how, Because, you know how, Yes. Yes. Tell me why it's cool. Tell me why it's cool. You know how, like, on the last song, when you put it closest to the. You know how, like, on the last song, when you put it closest to the. Closest to the label. Closest to the label. Sure. Sure. Once their record finishes on one side. Once their record finishes on one side. It kinds just continues to loop back and forth. It kinds just continues to loop back and forth. Right. Right. It's called a locked groove. It's called a locked groove. Right. Right. Alright. Alright. And the locked groove is normally there so that the needle doesn't just jump out onto the label. And the locked groove is normally there so that the needle doesn't just jump out onto the label. Right, that you don't, you don't ruin the needle. Right, that you don't, you don't ruin the needle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it just kinda continues back and forth on this locked groove. Yeah, so it just kinda continues back and forth on this locked groove. Well he put the locked groove on side A on the outermost edge and then he put a, a little soundbite on that. Well he put the locked groove on side A on the outermost edge and then he put a, a little soundbite on that. So once you get to the edge of side A which is the outermost, it will kind of play this infinite loop of, of, little sound byte. So once you get to the edge of side A which is the outermost, it will kind of play this infinite loop of, of, little sound byte. That's cool. That's cool. It's really cool. It's really cool. But you could do that in the middle too. But you could do that in the middle too. You can do that in the middle too but. You can do that in the middle too but. Right. Right. The fact that it kind of plays from the inside out. The fact that it kind of plays from the inside out. Inside out, it just looks cool. Inside out, it just looks cool. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta kind of - You gotta kind of - You do have to have the record go in the opposite direction. You do have to have the record go in the opposite direction. Right? Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You. You. I think the record goes in the opposite direction. I think the record goes in the opposite direction. I don't think it does. I don't think it does. No it sounds like it's just the way it was cut. No it sounds like it's just the way it was cut. Oh, so the, the groove will follow -. Oh, so the, the groove will follow -. Yeah, it still goes clockwise. Yeah, it still goes clockwise. So, the same direction. So, the same direction. Inscribed from the inside to the outside. Inscribed from the inside to the outside. Okay. Okay. Kind of confusing to explain, but that's pretty cool, it'll play that little tone forever. Kind of confusing to explain, but that's pretty cool, it'll play that little tone forever. Here's the other thing, so on side two, when you flip it over, the first song on side two actually has two different intros that lead into the same part in the middle. Here's the other thing, so on side two, when you flip it over, the first song on side two actually has two different intros that lead into the same part in the middle. That's cool. That's cool. The first part is acoustic, the second part is electric, so depending on where you drop the needle, on the outer most groove or the one directly next to it. The first part is acoustic, the second part is electric, so depending on where you drop the needle, on the outer most groove or the one directly next to it. You'll either hear the intro play electriclly with amps or acoustically with an acoustic guitar. You'll either hear the intro play electriclly with amps or acoustically with an acoustic guitar. It's really cool so no matter what you do, no matter which you choose they'll eventually converge into the middle of the song. It's really cool so no matter what you do, no matter which you choose they'll eventually converge into the middle of the song. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, really awesome. Yeah, really awesome. That's right. That's right. And then finally, this is I think the coolest thing. And then finally, this is I think the coolest thing. There's actually two hidden tracks underneath the center label on both sides of the record. There's actually two hidden tracks underneath the center label on both sides of the record. Wow. Wow. So if you drop the needle directly onto the paper itself, it will play these hidden songs through the paper. So if you drop the needle directly onto the paper itself, it will play these hidden songs through the paper. It will play it through the paper? It will play it through the paper? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. It's crazy, right? It's crazy, right? But, here is even nuttier thing, that's one side of the hidden track is 78 RPMs. But, here is even nuttier thing, that's one side of the hidden track is 78 RPMs. Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Normally, a record's played at 33 RPMs. Normally, a record's played at 33 RPMs. This one plays at 78 RPMs. This one plays at 78 RPMs. But when you flip it over, the other hidden track on side B, is 45 RPMs. But when you flip it over, the other hidden track on side B, is 45 RPMs. So this record altogether technically has three speeds you can play it at. So this record altogether technically has three speeds you can play it at. Three speeds. Three speeds. It's got three speeds. It's got three speeds. Yeah. Yeah. Three. Three. That's amazing. That's amazing. So nuts, right? So nuts, right? It's very cool. It's very cool. I mean he's clearly on like this vinyl kick. I mean he's clearly on like this vinyl kick. Yeah. Yeah. But I just. But I just. I mean, I'm, I'm into it. I mean, I'm, I'm into it. I don't, you know, I, I don't know a lot of people who still have record players. I don't, you know, I, I don't know a lot of people who still have record players. Yeah, I mean for those who do have record players, I feel like the appeal is that it's, the novelty is in paying more attention to it. Yeah, I mean for those who do have record players, I feel like the appeal is that it's, the novelty is in paying more attention to it. Having all the details you get if it's the labels, and the artwork, and the inserts. Having all the details you get if it's the labels, and the artwork, and the inserts. This just adds way more fun to it, and it's only 20 bucks. This just adds way more fun to it, and it's only 20 bucks. Yeah, that's pretty neat. Yeah, that's pretty neat. You can pre-order it for 20 bucks. You can pre-order it for 20 bucks. That's less, you know, less than the cost for what you would pay at a lot of used vinyl stores. That's less, you know, less than the cost for what you would pay at a lot of used vinyl stores. Only Jack White can get away with this. Only Jack White can get away with this. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Right? So cool. So cool. It's funny you bring that up because I was looking today at one of my favorite bands, Mastodon, and they have a, their new record, they're doing like this massive pre-release for, and it's like a $70 thing and it's 2 LPs. It's funny you bring that up because I was looking today at one of my favorite bands, Mastodon, and they have a, their new record, they're doing like this massive pre-release for, and it's like a $70 thing and it's 2 LPs. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. And I'm just like, everyone's into that, into that movement now again. And I'm just like, everyone's into that, into that movement now again. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool cuz a lot of those, albums will come with a ticket to the show in your city. It's cool cuz a lot of those, albums will come with a ticket to the show in your city. Right. Right. You get both and then when yo go the show itself, a lot of the merch tables will include special press vinyl. You get both and then when yo go the show itself, a lot of the merch tables will include special press vinyl. Like color vinyl sold only at that show. Like color vinyl sold only at that show. That's pretty cool too. That's pretty cool too. It is cool. It is cool. I, I mean I don't know. I, I mean I don't know. I'm just a fan of anything limited edition. I'm just a fan of anything limited edition. Like when you say something is limited edition I will buy it. Like when you say something is limited edition I will buy it. I don't care if it's one of 2 million I'll still get into it. I don't care if it's one of 2 million I'll still get into it. As long as it's labeled too. As long as it's labeled too. I just I don't know if I'm like, you know ready to like change the, the whole way I listen to music around. I just I don't know if I'm like, you know ready to like change the, the whole way I listen to music around. Yeah. Yeah. It does feel good to start paying for music [LAUGH] by the way. It does feel good to start paying for music [LAUGH] by the way. Oh, I'm, I gotta [CROSSTALK]. Oh, I'm, I gotta [CROSSTALK]. Maybe we are generation I will say to keep abroad got away with, you know, not paying for music for 20 years, 25 years. Maybe we are generation I will say to keep abroad got away with, you know, not paying for music for 20 years, 25 years. So, yeah, if you could put a little bit of money back [CROSSTALK] it's not the worst. So, yeah, if you could put a little bit of money back [CROSSTALK] it's not the worst. Is that what it is? Is that what it is? Just like this whole big guilt thing? Just like this whole big guilt thing? Yeah [LAUGH] basically. Yeah [LAUGH] basically. I feel like I'm taking it off my shoulders, one record at a time. I feel like I'm taking it off my shoulders, one record at a time. This doesn't absolve you of all your freaking transgressions. This doesn't absolve you of all your freaking transgressions. Not me, us, ours. Not me, us, ours. So, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, a lot of these bands are doing that. I mean, a lot of these bands are doing that. And I'm not gonna lie. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, I was super intrigued when I saw the math on that thing. Like, I was super intrigued when I saw the math on that thing. Look at this. Look at this. It's like 280 gram LP vinyls. It's like 280 gram LP vinyls. Four exclusive lithographs derived from album artwork. Four exclusive lithographs derived from album artwork. Yeah. Yeah. And then you get the CD as well. And then you get the CD as well. The digital version, yeah. The digital version, yeah. That's pretty rad, man. That's pretty rad, man. That's a crazy looking cover. That's a crazy looking cover. Right? Right? Oh my God. Oh my God. Look at the artwork. Look at the artwork. It's bonkers. It's bonkers. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Wow. Wow. All the drugs in the world can't explain where this came from [LAUGH]. All the drugs in the world can't explain where this came from [LAUGH]. Wait go up. Wait go up. Does that say you're gonna get an advanced copy of the next release they put out? Does that say you're gonna get an advanced copy of the next release they put out? No no no. No no no. What does that mean? What does that mean? So, so you'll get, you get the two, in two records. So, so you'll get, you get the two, in two records. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Right? Right? That's what the two 180 gram LP means? That's what the two 180 gram LP means? Right? Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What does that bottom note say? What does that bottom note say? Download of another album. Download of another album. So you'll get another. So you'll get another. So they'll give you a digital version of one of the songs before it's leaked, released. So they'll give you a digital version of one of the songs before it's leaked, released. So the next single on this record. So the next single on this record. Right. Right. Okay, gotcha. Okay, gotcha. 70 bucks, though, that's a lot of money, right? 70 bucks, though, that's a lot of money, right? Yeah. Yeah. Two records [CROSSTALK] Two records [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Nine minutes' worth of features like Jack White. [CROSSTALK] Nine minutes' worth of features like Jack White. [LAUGH] Yeah, exactly. [LAUGH] Yeah, exactly. This is very cool, man. This is very cool, man. I'm into it. I'm into it. Rad. Rad. Yep. Yep. All right. All right. There you have it. There you have it. So what's next? So what's next? You wanna talk about San Francisco? You wanna talk about San Francisco? I do, I think this is really awesome. I do, I think this is really awesome. Man. Man. Not only is that place literally sinking into the ground, it's also sinking economically right now. Not only is that place literally sinking into the ground, it's also sinking economically right now. It's not a good place to be in San Francisco, unless you have a ton of money. It's not a good place to be in San Francisco, unless you have a ton of money. Yeah, it's super expensive there. Yeah, it's super expensive there. They're making, it's starting to make New York look affordable. They're making, it's starting to make New York look affordable. Yeah, the rent is actually cheaper in New York than it is in San Francisco. Yeah, the rent is actually cheaper in New York than it is in San Francisco. I never thought I'd see the day where another cities having cheaper rent. I never thought I'd see the day where another cities having cheaper rent. But yeah. But yeah. Me neither. Me neither. So listen to this. So listen to this. An italian company is testing a new service in SF called monkey parking. An italian company is testing a new service in SF called monkey parking. And monkey parking lets drivers auction off their parking spot before they leave, through an app. And monkey parking lets drivers auction off their parking spot before they leave, through an app. So if you're about to leave a busy mall or something, before you, you know, back out of the parking spot, you fire up this app, you can charge anywhere between 5 and $20, there's buttons for each denominations. So if you're about to leave a busy mall or something, before you, you know, back out of the parking spot, you fire up this app, you can charge anywhere between 5 and $20, there's buttons for each denominations. You just hit 20 bucks, then everyone else gets to see the open parking spots for sale in your area. You just hit 20 bucks, then everyone else gets to see the open parking spots for sale in your area. If you're sick of looking for one, just hit that 20, and then it will link up between your phones, and you're ready to pull in after that. If you're sick of looking for one, just hit that 20, and then it will link up between your phones, and you're ready to pull in after that. It's a pyramid scheme. It's a pyramid scheme. Yeah, basically, and it may be illegal. Yeah, basically, and it may be illegal. It's, I don't know if it's illegal, it doesn't, to me this doesn't matter if it's illegal. It's, I don't know if it's illegal, it doesn't, to me this doesn't matter if it's illegal. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it's it's kinda silly. Cuz it's it's kinda silly. [CROSSTALK] But it's a pyramid scheme, because if this were like pervasive everywhere, you would just get the money back from selling your spot after, and then the last guy will get jacked when the demand for parking goes down because there's no one willing to pay for his or her spot. [CROSSTALK] But it's a pyramid scheme, because if this were like pervasive everywhere, you would just get the money back from selling your spot after, and then the last guy will get jacked when the demand for parking goes down because there's no one willing to pay for his or her spot. Or I could see it becoming a thing where people just go and hoard parking spots [LAUGH] before like a big game or something, like let's say a playoffs game like for the Giants. Or I could see it becoming a thing where people just go and hoard parking spots [LAUGH] before like a big game or something, like let's say a playoffs game like for the Giants. Sure. Sure. Like, yeah, they would go and just take 20 spots and auction 'em off, make, you know, $400 or something. Like, yeah, they would go and just take 20 spots and auction 'em off, make, you know, $400 or something. It's, it's pretty bad, it is pretty disgusting. It's, it's pretty bad, it is pretty disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. What they're trying to do. What they're trying to do. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. like, I get it, it's, it's like taking the whole I call like the web 3.0, it's like Uber and First Direct and all that stuff, like [INAUDIBLE] like, I get it, it's, it's like taking the whole I call like the web 3.0, it's like Uber and First Direct and all that stuff, like [INAUDIBLE] Yeah. Yeah. You're taking that and you're like, exploiting that to the, the, to the end of its, you know. You're taking that and you're like, exploiting that to the, the, to the end of its, you know. Yeah, it's like commodifying every part of your life. Yeah, it's like commodifying every part of your life. It's like Airbnb, you know? It's like Airbnb, you know? Mm-hm. Mm-hm. For everything. For everything. For everything, yeah. For everything, yeah. For everything. For everything. Like I'm about to breathe, inhale some oxygen, would you like to buy the exhale. Like I'm about to breathe, inhale some oxygen, would you like to buy the exhale. [LAUGH] It's like all right, okay, son of a ****. [LAUGH] It's like all right, okay, son of a ****. Right. Right. Right? Right? Where gonna come to Beijing. Where gonna come to Beijing. Yeah. Yeah. We have one cubic foot of free clean air. We have one cubic foot of free clean air. [LAUGH] Get outta here. [LAUGH] Get outta here. What about, so like, what if I'm coming out of the mall and whatever happened to the whole, like, I'm gonna follow this guy to his car. What about, so like, what if I'm coming out of the mall and whatever happened to the whole, like, I'm gonna follow this guy to his car. Right. Right. The guy's gonna be like nope, I already sold it to that Buick behind you. The guy's gonna be like nope, I already sold it to that Buick behind you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or what if you pull up to spot and it's a compact and you have a truck, and you've already paid 20 buck for it. Or what if you pull up to spot and it's a compact and you have a truck, and you've already paid 20 buck for it. Oh you're really, you're really splitting hairs here. Oh you're really, you're really splitting hairs here. You know like- You know like- What if you get swooped. What if you get swooped. Yeah that always happens. Yeah that always happens. I've done that to people before [LAUGH] I've done that to people before [LAUGH] You ****. You ****. [LAUGH] Oh you're the worst kind of driver. [LAUGH] Oh you're the worst kind of driver. Come on I've never done that. Come on I've never done that. Yes you have. Yes you have. No. No. I don't drive. I don't drive. The first step is admitting it. The first step is admitting it. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. I think for the city they're worried that it's gonna take money away from potential spots with parking meters. I think for the city they're worried that it's gonna take money away from potential spots with parking meters. Yeah. Yeah. And the parking meter money is used to go back into the infrastructure for the city to build more lanes and things like that. And the parking meter money is used to go back into the infrastructure for the city to build more lanes and things like that. Well, that's where parking monkey, the worst name ever -. Well, that's where parking monkey, the worst name ever -. Monkey parking! Monkey parking! It doesn't matter, it's the worst name ever. It doesn't matter, it's the worst name ever. It is the worse name ever, you've ever come up with. It is the worse name ever, you've ever come up with. Yeah. Yeah. Italian company. Italian company. It's terrible. It's terrible. They should give a cut back to the city of San Francisco. They should give a cut back to the city of San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. If they don't wanna look like total ****. If they don't wanna look like total ****. People are already so pissed off about corporate busses from Google and things like this-. People are already so pissed off about corporate busses from Google and things like this-. Yeah. Yeah. Genentech. Genentech. Parking in, where the muni buses pull up to pick people up. Parking in, where the muni buses pull up to pick people up. Right. Right. They're already pissed about that, and then Silicon Valley in general boosting the presence of rents and stuff like that. They're already pissed about that, and then Silicon Valley in general boosting the presence of rents and stuff like that. So what we're saying is move to San Francisco. So what we're saying is move to San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying. You can get a fight coming back from the airport. You can get a fight coming back from the airport. That's the take away. That's the take away. It's getting insane over there. It's getting insane over there. It's nuts. It's nuts. Now, when I was Singapore, by the way, so I know their parking, they have parking down to a science there. Now, when I was Singapore, by the way, so I know their parking, they have parking down to a science there. It's very organized. It's very organized. So every, structure you have or parking lot, whether it's public or private, they all have a digital sign or marquis in front that shows, that shows you exactly how many spots are left. So every, structure you have or parking lot, whether it's public or private, they all have a digital sign or marquis in front that shows, that shows you exactly how many spots are left. Brilliant. Brilliant. And then when you pull in, there are arrows that are directing you to the closest spot to you. And then when you pull in, there are arrows that are directing you to the closest spot to you. More brilliant. More brilliant. Yeah, and then that number ticks down, but each spot also has lights above them that turn red or green depending on if they're full or empty. Yeah, and then that number ticks down, but each spot also has lights above them that turn red or green depending on if they're full or empty. So you can see immediately, even if you don't have a sign in front of you, which one's are open. So you can see immediately, even if you don't have a sign in front of you, which one's are open. I see stuff like that. I see stuff like that. It looks like this, right? It looks like this, right? Genius. Genius. It looks like this a little bit. It looks like this a little bit. Little green spot over the, brilliant. Little green spot over the, brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And this is why we can't have nice things. And this is why we can't have nice things. Why the F is this not here in this country? Why the F is this not here in this country? Why is this not in New York, the hardest place on Earth to park a car? Why is this not in New York, the hardest place on Earth to park a car? Yeah. Yeah. And they are everywhere too. And they are everywhere too. I don't get it. I don't get it. So it's great. So it's great. You don't have to worry about pulling in somewhere and finding a, a-. You don't have to worry about pulling in somewhere and finding a, a-. And circling and circling. And circling and circling. Maybe that's why it's called parking monkey cuz you feel like a monkey after you circled a lot so many times. Maybe that's why it's called parking monkey cuz you feel like a monkey after you circled a lot so many times. Still the worst name ever. Still the worst name ever. Man, it just, it's not really good to be in Nintendo these days. Man, it just, it's not really good to be in Nintendo these days. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, it's getting worse and worse and worse. I, you know, it's getting worse and worse and worse. And they just put out there earnings, last 12 months, Nintendo had lost 457 million dollars. And they just put out there earnings, last 12 months, Nintendo had lost 457 million dollars. The Wii U has only sold 2.72 milion units in the last 12 months. The Wii U has only sold 2.72 milion units in the last 12 months. At this rate, they could potentially run out of cash. At this rate, they could potentially run out of cash. It used to be like, oh they have so much cash in the bank. It used to be like, oh they have so much cash in the bank. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They could do this for 50 years. They could do this for 50 years. Now that it's exponentially rising into the losses. Now that it's exponentially rising into the losses. Yeah. Yeah. They can really, see like, a wall at the end of this tunnel. They can really, see like, a wall at the end of this tunnel. That is insane. That is insane. So, last quarter, Nintendo sold how much, 310,000? So, last quarter, Nintendo sold how much, 310,000? Yeah. Yeah. Wii Us? Wii Us? Wii Us, which is not a lot. Wii Us, which is not a lot. Contrast that to the PlayStation 4 which sold 7 million since last November. Contrast that to the PlayStation 4 which sold 7 million since last November. Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy. That is crazy. It's insane. It's insane. The 3DS is doing pretty well. The 3DS is doing pretty well. But you know they're only forecasting 3.6 million Wii U sales in this current fiscal year. But you know they're only forecasting 3.6 million Wii U sales in this current fiscal year. I wonder if it's an issue with marketing and not just television commercials. I wonder if it's an issue with marketing and not just television commercials. It's everything. It's everything. Cuz you see a lot of those but-. Cuz you see a lot of those but-. It's across the board. It's across the board. Yeah, so I went, I went into a Game Stop the other week to, for my friend to buy Mortal Kombat, and I noticed that all of the advertisements for like, were for like, Titanfall or were for PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. Yeah, so I went, I went into a Game Stop the other week to, for my friend to buy Mortal Kombat, and I noticed that all of the advertisements for like, were for like, Titanfall or were for PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. And then they had like a very, very small Wii U section in the back. And then they had like a very, very small Wii U section in the back. Right. Right. Well, there's no games. Well, there's no games. Yeah. Yeah. And then there were no games for it at all. And then there were no games for it at all. In addition to just not being demoed either, you know, like, there were consoles for both of those, but there, there was no Wii U demo. In addition to just not being demoed either, you know, like, there were consoles for both of those, but there, there was no Wii U demo. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure maybe that's like a very small part of it but, you think it's a marketing deal? I'm sure maybe that's like a very small part of it but, you think it's a marketing deal? I think it's everything. I think it's everything. I think the games are not worth paying 50 bucks for, I think the software on the system sucks in terms of like, the firmware. I think the games are not worth paying 50 bucks for, I think the software on the system sucks in terms of like, the firmware. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big clunky controller that no, that has terrible battery life and is completely alienating to anyone who picks it up. It's a big clunky controller that no, that has terrible battery life and is completely alienating to anyone who picks it up. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. it's, the, it was debuted in an awful way. it's, the, it was debuted in an awful way. It was debuted too early in my opinion. It was debuted too early in my opinion. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. People didn't know like, you know, the way they described it to the press, people didn't realize you know, if it was a Wii attachment or a brand new console altogether. People didn't know like, you know, the way they described it to the press, people didn't realize you know, if it was a Wii attachment or a brand new console altogether. More of the mainstream media outlets didn't get it. More of the mainstream media outlets didn't get it. It's bad. It's bad. It's really, really bad and I don't think there's a way to save Wii U. If I'm Nintendo, I mean, they've got a few highly anticipated games coming down the pike. It's really, really bad and I don't think there's a way to save Wii U. If I'm Nintendo, I mean, they've got a few highly anticipated games coming down the pike. They have Zelda coming out, and maybe one or two other gems like another Mario game? They have Zelda coming out, and maybe one or two other gems like another Mario game? Smash Brothers too. Smash Brothers too. Smash Brother's coming out later this year. Smash Brother's coming out later this year. They're in a lot of trouble. They're in a lot of trouble. I say pull the plug on Wii U. I say pull the plug on Wii U. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. I, I say focus on, on the 3DS the one thing that does appear to continue to make money. I, I say focus on, on the 3DS the one thing that does appear to continue to make money. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And just cut your losses because at this point it's, it's worse because they are still, like, in denial about it. And just cut your losses because at this point it's, it's worse because they are still, like, in denial about it. Especially when we meet with them and they're like, here's why we use Future is Bright. Especially when we meet with them and they're like, here's why we use Future is Bright. Right. Right. It's like, no, man. It's like, no, man. It's not. It's not. It really isn't, yeah I don't know. It really isn't, yeah I don't know. Like my child, if, if I told like 12 year old, 10 year old Jeff this was gonna happen in 2014-. Like my child, if, if I told like 12 year old, 10 year old Jeff this was gonna happen in 2014-. Yeah. Yeah. He'd go, he'd cry for a few days. He'd go, he'd cry for a few days. It's gotta be an issue with simplicity, right. It's gotta be an issue with simplicity, right. I, I feel like everybody likes Nintendo because it's easy to play. I, I feel like everybody likes Nintendo because it's easy to play. You know you can just pick up a game, like a Mario game and know how to play it. You know you can just pick up a game, like a Mario game and know how to play it. Yeah. Yeah. But with this, there's such a big learning curve. But with this, there's such a big learning curve. They, they haven't, they're going through like an identity crisis right now. They, they haven't, they're going through like an identity crisis right now. They're not competing with Nintendo, with Sony and Microsoft. They're not competing with Nintendo, with Sony and Microsoft. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. They're just not in their league anymore. They're just not in their league anymore. Yeah Yeah They bail out of E3 press conferences two years in a row now, and you know, people are sort of wondering like what their saving grace. They bail out of E3 press conferences two years in a row now, and you know, people are sort of wondering like what their saving grace. What their move is? What their move is? Mm. Mm. And I don't think they know either. And I don't think they know either. Speaking of finances, I read an article about how Sony is actually really close to just getting bankrupt. Speaking of finances, I read an article about how Sony is actually really close to just getting bankrupt. All of Sony. All of Sony. with, like, you know, the Sony gaming division is the only one that's turning a profit with record sales. with, like, you know, the Sony gaming division is the only one that's turning a profit with record sales. You're talking about like electronics and movies. You're talking about like electronics and movies. But yeah, their televisions for example, their music has gone down. But yeah, their televisions for example, their music has gone down. I, I read one report that there's about 75% close to going bankrupt in the next few years. I, I read one report that there's about 75% close to going bankrupt in the next few years. That's crazy. That's crazy. Which could lead to a sale of the Sony gaming division. Which could lead to a sale of the Sony gaming division. Off to someone else. Off to someone else. Off to someone else, maybe Nintendo. Off to someone else, maybe Nintendo. Maybe Nintendo should buy it. Maybe Nintendo should buy it. Maybe Microsoft. Maybe Microsoft. Well look, that was, that was always like this amazing theory. Well look, that was, that was always like this amazing theory. Like oh, Nintendo should just merge with like Google, or you know? Like oh, Nintendo should just merge with like Google, or you know? Or Apple or [INAUDIBLE]. Or Apple or [INAUDIBLE]. Or Apple or whatever it is and then you. Or Apple or whatever it is and then you. That's the thing and, and they're, like we've said in the past, they're a very prideful company. That's the thing and, and they're, like we've said in the past, they're a very prideful company. They you know, they'll, they'll never really admit defeat. They you know, they'll, they'll never really admit defeat. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. I think they really need to merge or make a phone, like make an Android phone. I think they really need to merge or make a phone, like make an Android phone. Yeah. Yeah. A Nintendo Android phone. A Nintendo Android phone. I would buy that. I would buy that. Oh yeah? Oh yeah? With a game controller built-in. With a game controller built-in. With the controller built-in and an access to the entire vault of Nintendo software. With the controller built-in and an access to the entire vault of Nintendo software. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Ooh. Ooh. Do a Netflix style rental thing where I can do, for $5 a month, I can buy and I can play any Nintendo game. Do a Netflix style rental thing where I can do, for $5 a month, I can buy and I can play any Nintendo game. Like, there are so many ideas and they just haven't innovated, man. Like, there are so many ideas and they just haven't innovated, man. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't done anything to keep up. They haven't done anything to keep up. Not just with Microsoft and Sony, but with everyone that is just every single day cutting away at their market share. Not just with Microsoft and Sony, but with everyone that is just every single day cutting away at their market share. It's sad because everybody wants them to win, too. It's sad because everybody wants them to win, too. Of course. Of course. They have an excellent public perception. They have an excellent public perception. Of course. Of course. People love Nintendo. People love Nintendo. I love Nintendo and I don't even play video games but I like seeing the characters. I love Nintendo and I don't even play video games but I like seeing the characters. It's crazy. It's crazy. And they just can't get it together. And they just can't get it together. They can't get it together. They can't get it together. It's very strange. It's very strange. Their marketing is just now where it should be. Their marketing is just now where it should be. But where some marketing is where it should be. But where some marketing is where it should be. This is a really interesting campaign being run by Ed Boon, one of the creators of Mortal Kombat. This is a really interesting campaign being run by Ed Boon, one of the creators of Mortal Kombat. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm not gonna get into like, specifics of what it, he, the product he's actually promoting, but he's doing something really cool. You know, I'm not gonna get into like, specifics of what it, he, the product he's actually promoting, but he's doing something really cool. He's sending out these sort of cryptic tweets that all have numbers in them. He's sending out these sort of cryptic tweets that all have numbers in them. Yeah. Yeah. He started out with saying how many days are in, in a leap year in February? He started out with saying how many days are in, in a leap year in February? Right. Right. And then he, that was 29. And then he, that was 29. And he started counting out 28, and then he said, man I love the Simpsons. And he started counting out 28, and then he said, man I love the Simpsons. And linked to a Simpsons video with the number 27 with it. And linked to a Simpsons video with the number 27 with it. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. He's counting down to something. He's counting down to something. And the countdown is set to expire a few days before E3 2014. And the countdown is set to expire a few days before E3 2014. So just what is he leading up to, we don't know. So just what is he leading up to, we don't know. Is it a new game involving, you know, his company, Nether Realm? Is it a new game involving, you know, his company, Nether Realm? They make Mortal Kombat, they've made Injustice, Gods Among Us, which was a D.C. Comics fighting game. They make Mortal Kombat, they've made Injustice, Gods Among Us, which was a D.C. Comics fighting game. Really good stuff. Really good stuff. Is he ready to announce another fighting game? Is he ready to announce another fighting game? I would think so. I would think so. Hm. Hm. But I just thought the way he's going at it pretty sick. But I just thought the way he's going at it pretty sick. The height of thick. The height of thick. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently Keifer Sutherland has confirmed that he's working on a Mortal Kombat project. Apparently Keifer Sutherland has confirmed that he's working on a Mortal Kombat project. Could that be what Mr. Ed Boone is counting down to? Could that be what Mr. Ed Boone is counting down to? It's possible. It's possible. Another Mortal Kombat? Another Mortal Kombat? Another Mortal, dude that reboot, that Mortal Kombat reboot, reboot, best fighting game I've played in a decade. Another Mortal, dude that reboot, that Mortal Kombat reboot, reboot, best fighting game I've played in a decade. Yeah. Yeah. I've been playing that too. I've been playing that too. You've been playing that. You've been playing that. Sick, right? Sick, right? [INAUDIBLE] lot of fun. [INAUDIBLE] lot of fun. Amazing. Amazing. So good. So good. So I'd love to see you know, what's happening. So I'd love to see you know, what's happening. And we'll all find out in just 27 short days. And we'll all find out in just 27 short days. Cool. Cool. All right, let's get to a few emails. All right, let's get to a few emails. We've got a lot of contact, we're still freaking people out across the planet about the UVB hidden messages, number stations, all that stuff. We've got a lot of contact, we're still freaking people out across the planet about the UVB hidden messages, number stations, all that stuff. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. This I wanted to read cuz it was kinda like a no brainer and I just thought it was funny that, someone was telling us this. This I wanted to read cuz it was kinda like a no brainer and I just thought it was funny that, someone was telling us this. Kevin writes in and says "Hey I'd never heard of that UVB76 signal before but after listening to that show, I immediately thought of the movie Contact with Jodi Foster." yeah we've heard of that, we've heard of Contact. Kevin writes in and says "Hey I'd never heard of that UVB76 signal before but after listening to that show, I immediately thought of the movie Contact with Jodi Foster." yeah we've heard of that, we've heard of Contact. [LAUGH] He said the idea for that movie must have come from UVB 76. [LAUGH] He said the idea for that movie must have come from UVB 76. Probably yeah, so, we kinda, we kinda heard that in the back of our head a little bit. Probably yeah, so, we kinda, we kinda heard that in the back of our head a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Paul writes in about that Emmer Feffer, what, what do we call, did we call them mother effing? Paul writes in about that Emmer Feffer, what, what do we call, did we call them mother effing? I don't know. I don't know. I think he's just really excited about the concept. I think he's just really excited about the concept. We were talking about putting headphones into the jacks of every arm rest and-. We were talking about putting headphones into the jacks of every arm rest and-. Right. Right. He goes, in 30 seconds, you guys effortlessly hit all of my movie points. He goes, in 30 seconds, you guys effortlessly hit all of my movie points. My wife loves going to the movies, I don't for all the reasons Justin had mentioned. My wife loves going to the movies, I don't for all the reasons Justin had mentioned. Loud kids and adults sitting next to a stranger for three hours. Loud kids and adults sitting next to a stranger for three hours. The texting idiots, et cetera. The texting idiots, et cetera. Sticky floors. Sticky floors. Sticky floors, oh. Sticky floors, oh. [LAUGH] You added that one in. [LAUGH] You added that one in. Sticky floor's a problem for you? Sticky floor's a problem for you? Yeah, I hate sticky floors. Yeah, I hate sticky floors. I mean, no one enjoys sticky floors, but I'm not, I'm not avoiding movie theaters because they have sticky floors. I mean, no one enjoys sticky floors, but I'm not, I'm not avoiding movie theaters because they have sticky floors. It's just soda. It's just soda. It's, oh. It's, oh. You know what that kind is, it's not what you think it is. You know what that kind is, it's not what you think it is. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] That's not what I was thinking. That's not what I was thinking. That's not what I was thinking. That's not what I was thinking. Imagine how much of that [CROSSTALK] Imagine how much of that [CROSSTALK] Totally not. Totally not. I swear that's not what I was thinking. I swear that's not what I was thinking. You know what I was thinking it was is like dried butter, that like liquid butter. You know what I was thinking it was is like dried butter, that like liquid butter. That's right. That's right. Have, have you seen that station they have oh, at the Battery Park movie theater there was, yeah. Have, have you seen that station they have oh, at the Battery Park movie theater there was, yeah. But not even that, like so we saw this pump station, right, next to the like where all the condiments are, and they have this like butter reservoir and the pump it self is so long, that you can push it down for like a solid 45 seconds and just have streams of this liquid butter coming out. But not even that, like so we saw this pump station, right, next to the like where all the condiments are, and they have this like butter reservoir and the pump it self is so long, that you can push it down for like a solid 45 seconds and just have streams of this liquid butter coming out. It is, there was this girl that was literally just like holding a bucket underneath. It is, there was this girl that was literally just like holding a bucket underneath. Pressing down and like moving the bucket around. Pressing down and like moving the bucket around. Like it was soft serve. Like it was soft serve. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah but like, for like a solid minute. Yeah but like, for like a solid minute. We just watched her and just cracked up. We just watched her and just cracked up. I'm sorry man you know, the guy to my left is talking about how gross butter, you know, fountain is. I'm sorry man you know, the guy to my left is talking about how gross butter, you know, fountain is. But, I look at what you eat man, it's not much different. But, I look at what you eat man, it's not much different. But you probably cleaned off that, you should clean that thing out over the course of an hour and a half. But you probably cleaned off that, you should clean that thing out over the course of an hour and a half. And if you had measured that in a cup, I'm sure it would be I don't know. And if you had measured that in a cup, I'm sure it would be I don't know. So holier than thou, oh my God. So holier than thou, oh my God. Okay bacon sandwich Larry, I'm sure there's no butter in that process. Okay bacon sandwich Larry, I'm sure there's no butter in that process. Alright either way we totally identify, he says, he agrees the Battery Park City AMC is legit that's the only place I go, it's tolerable. Alright either way we totally identify, he says, he agrees the Battery Park City AMC is legit that's the only place I go, it's tolerable. But yeah, we're hitting first world problems here for sure. But yeah, we're hitting first world problems here for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so Ken sent us an email about the same thing, and he was telling us about how in Korea they've opened up Beats by Dre collaborative movie theaters. Oh, so Ken sent us an email about the same thing, and he was telling us about how in Korea they've opened up Beats by Dre collaborative movie theaters. I didn't see that when I was there, but he says that all the seats have their studio head phones built-in, just like we talked about. I didn't see that when I was there, but he says that all the seats have their studio head phones built-in, just like we talked about. And then they all have one time sanitary ear patches you can wear on them. And then they all have one time sanitary ear patches you can wear on them. Brilliant. Brilliant. So you don't have to worry about earwax getting on you. So you don't have to worry about earwax getting on you. Problem solved. Problem solved. Yeah, it's a collaboration between cinema chain in Korea called CGD, and these electronics. Yeah, it's a collaboration between cinema chain in Korea called CGD, and these electronics. Well, they're all bootlegged Beats by Dre. Well, they're all bootlegged Beats by Dre. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Yeah. Yeah. Was that [INAUDIBLE]. Was that [INAUDIBLE]. I think China, China has all the bootlegged. I think China, China has all the bootlegged. Korea might be okay. Korea might be okay. Korea's legit. Korea's legit. But that sounds pretty cool. But that sounds pretty cool. If we can get that going with non Beats by Dre headphones maybe If we can get that going with non Beats by Dre headphones maybe Just sound cancelling. Just sound cancelling. Yeah. Yeah. I just, and, you know what they say, the second that happens, then the phones will start to, like, really annoy you, and, stand out more. I just, and, you know what they say, the second that happens, then the phones will start to, like, really annoy you, and, stand out more. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's just no way of getting around it. There's just no way of getting around it. You'll just have to wait two weeks for the movie to come out on Blu-Ray. You'll just have to wait two weeks for the movie to come out on Blu-Ray. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Yeah, that's how long it's taking these days, sorta. Yeah, that's how long it's taking these days, sorta. And then finally, Kylie writes in and says, I've got two cents to add to the number stations conversations. And then finally, Kylie writes in and says, I've got two cents to add to the number stations conversations. My friends posits that these number stations were originally created and still used to brainwash Russian prisoners. My friends posits that these number stations were originally created and still used to brainwash Russian prisoners. I think-. I think-. No background. No background. Like he has no further details. Like he has no further details. That's it. That's it. Thinks that. Thinks that. I think they might be messages to Russian covert missions, or even signals into space, as a, we're out here, message. I think they might be messages to Russian covert missions, or even signals into space, as a, we're out here, message. sorry, we out here. sorry, we out here. Not we're out here. Not we're out here. We're out here. We're out here. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Still sounds creepy as, uh-. Still sounds creepy as, uh-. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. It's creepy for sure. It's creepy for sure. I need some citations on those claims. I need some citations on those claims. I mean, they're not bad but-. I mean, they're not bad but-. You can claim anything. You can claim anything. Yeah, [LAUGH] but I wanna hear a little bit more about horses. Yeah, [LAUGH] but I wanna hear a little bit more about horses. You don't need, you don't need a background check or a, or a reference or source to claim anything. You don't need, you don't need a background check or a, or a reference or source to claim anything. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Nice. Nice. Yes. Yes. Ten points if you know what that's from. Ten points if you know what that's from. finally, some programming notes that we need to tell you fine people about. finally, some programming notes that we need to tell you fine people about. I lied. I lied. I lied. I lied. I lied to you. I lied to you. I lied to everyone. I lied to everyone. I lied to the entire internet. I lied to the entire internet. Kitty Lennon all had to cancel again tomorrow. Kitty Lennon all had to cancel again tomorrow. Again? Again? That's two lies. That's two lies. She's lying a lot to us. She's lying a lot to us. She promises that she'll be back, so right now, we've got her tentatively schedule for the week after next, or perhaps the end of next week, we're still emailing back and forth. She promises that she'll be back, so right now, we've got her tentatively schedule for the week after next, or perhaps the end of next week, we're still emailing back and forth. Don't worry, she's not cancelled for good. Don't worry, she's not cancelled for good. She is coming at some point. She is coming at some point. Also Andrew W.K., that is a week from Tuesday with a live musical performance as well. Also Andrew W.K., that is a week from Tuesday with a live musical performance as well. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Go to our sub Reddit and participate in the thread we've got going. Go to our sub Reddit and participate in the thread we've got going. It's called Andrew W.K. is coming back and needs your help. It's called Andrew W.K. is coming back and needs your help. Help us come up with ideas that we can pitch to Andrew W.K. as he is making up this song on the spot. Help us come up with ideas that we can pitch to Andrew W.K. as he is making up this song on the spot. He doesn't want them before. He doesn't want them before. He's gonna do it all live. He's gonna do it all live. He's gonna come up with it off the dome. He's gonna come up with it off the dome. Mh-hm. Mh-hm. Off that amazing head to hair dome. Off that amazing head to hair dome. Okay? Okay? So it's gonna be a lot of fun. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. We'll have him on one week from today. We'll have him on one week from today. I'm so psyche to have him back. I'm so psyche to have him back. I'm very excited too. I'm very excited too. Also, Mr Morgan Spurlock is in our very immediate future. Also, Mr Morgan Spurlock is in our very immediate future. He'll be back as well as Reggie Watts. He'll be back as well as Reggie Watts. For the first time on 404, that is all coming up later in May, early June so there's a lot to look forward to on the 404. For the first time on 404, that is all coming up later in May, early June so there's a lot to look forward to on the 404. Yeah. Yeah. People want Andrew W.K. to sing about me being skinny fat, your fear of the sun, Ariel's production work, and then getting lost in the swamp. People want Andrew W.K. to sing about me being skinny fat, your fear of the sun, Ariel's production work, and then getting lost in the swamp. They're just like, those are some of the themes that people want and requested. They're just like, those are some of the themes that people want and requested. I think we've got a song there. I think we've got a song there. So that's just a few of them, if you want your own, email us or contribute to that thread. So that's just a few of them, if you want your own, email us or contribute to that thread. There you go. There you go. And just to remind you, that's at reddit.com slash R slash 404, hit that little subscribe button and you'll get updates, whenever we have a cool thread in that subreddit. And just to remind you, that's at reddit.com slash R slash 404, hit that little subscribe button and you'll get updates, whenever we have a cool thread in that subreddit. That's gonna do it for us. That's gonna do it for us. Shoot us an email the 404@cnet.com. Shoot us an email the 404@cnet.com. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and all that crap. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and all that crap. We're back here tomorrow. We're back here tomorrow. Hope you have a fantastic Wednesday. Hope you have a fantastic Wednesday. Until then I'm Jeff Bacalar. Until then I'm Jeff Bacalar. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Ariel Ninez. I'm Ariel Ninez. This has been the 404 show high tech, low brow. This has been the 404 show high tech, low brow. See you guys tomorrow. See you guys tomorrow. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] 70 bucks, though, that's a lot of money, right? 70 bucks, though, that's a lot of money, right? Yeah. Yeah. Two records [CROSSTALK] Two records [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Nine minutes' worth of features like Jack White. [CROSSTALK] Nine minutes' worth of features like Jack White. [LAUGH] Yeah, exactly. [LAUGH] Yeah, exactly. This is very cool, man. This is very cool, man. I'm into it. I'm into it. Rad. Rad. Yep. Yep. All right. All right. There you have it. There you have it. So what's next? So what's next? You wanna talk about San Francisco? You wanna talk about San Francisco? I do, I think this is really awesome. I do, I think this is really awesome. Man. Man. Not only is that place literally sinking into the ground, it's also sinking economically right now. Not only is that place literally sinking into the ground, it's also sinking economically right now. It's not a good place to be in San Francisco, unless you have a ton of money. It's not a good place to be in San Francisco, unless you have a ton of money. Yeah, it's super expensive there. Yeah, it's super expensive there. They're making, it's starting to make New York look affordable. They're making, it's starting to make New York look affordable. Yeah, the rent is actually cheaper in New York than it is in San Francisco. Yeah, the rent is actually cheaper in New York than it is in San Francisco. I never thought I'd see the day where another cities having cheaper rent. I never thought I'd see the day where another cities having cheaper rent. But yeah. But yeah. Me neither. Me neither. So listen to this. So listen to this. An italian company is testing a new service in SF called monkey parking. An italian company is testing a new service in SF called monkey parking. And monkey parking lets drivers auction off their parking spot before they leave, through an app. And monkey parking lets drivers auction off their parking spot before they leave, through an app. So if you're about to leave a busy mall or something, before you, you know, back out of the parking spot, you fire up this app, you can charge anywhere between 5 and $20, there's buttons for each denominations. So if you're about to leave a busy mall or something, before you, you know, back out of the parking spot, you fire up this app, you can charge anywhere between 5 and $20, there's buttons for each denominations. You just hit 20 bucks, then everyone else gets to see the open parking spots for sale in your area. You just hit 20 bucks, then everyone else gets to see the open parking spots for sale in your area. If you're sick of looking for one, just hit that 20, and then it will link up between your phones, and you're ready to pull in after that. If you're sick of looking for one, just hit that 20, and then it will link up between your phones, and you're ready to pull in after that. It's a pyramid scheme. It's a pyramid scheme. Yeah, basically, and it may be illegal. Yeah, basically, and it may be illegal. It's, I don't know if it's illegal, it doesn't, to me this doesn't matter if it's illegal. It's, I don't know if it's illegal, it doesn't, to me this doesn't matter if it's illegal. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it's it's kinda silly. Cuz it's it's kinda silly. [CROSSTALK] But it's a pyramid scheme, because if this were like pervasive everywhere, you would just get the money back from selling your spot after, and then the last guy will get jacked when the demand for parking goes down because there's no one willing to pay for his or her spot. [CROSSTALK] But it's a pyramid scheme, because if this were like pervasive everywhere, you would just get the money back from selling your spot after, and then the last guy will get jacked when the demand for parking goes down because there's no one willing to pay for his or her spot. Or I could see it becoming a thing where people just go and hoard parking spots [LAUGH] before like a big game or something, like let's say a playoffs game like for the Giants. Or I could see it becoming a thing where people just go and hoard parking spots [LAUGH] before like a big game or something, like let's say a playoffs game like for the Giants. Sure. Sure. Like, yeah, they would go and just take 20 spots and auction 'em off, make, you know, $400 or something. Like, yeah, they would go and just take 20 spots and auction 'em off, make, you know, $400 or something. It's, it's pretty bad, it is pretty disgusting. It's, it's pretty bad, it is pretty disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. What they're trying to do. What they're trying to do. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. like, I get it, it's, it's like taking the whole I call like the web 3.0, it's like Uber and First Direct and all that stuff, like [INAUDIBLE] like, I get it, it's, it's like taking the whole I call like the web 3.0, it's like Uber and First Direct and all that stuff, like [INAUDIBLE] Yeah. Yeah. You're taking that and you're like, exploiting that to the, the, to the end of its, you know. You're taking that and you're like, exploiting that to the, the, to the end of its, you know. Yeah, it's like commodifying every part of your life. Yeah, it's like commodifying every part of your life. It's like Airbnb, you know? It's like Airbnb, you know? Mm-hm. Mm-hm. For everything. For everything. For everything, yeah. For everything, yeah. For everything. For everything. Like I'm about to breathe, inhale some oxygen, would you like to buy the exhale. Like I'm about to breathe, inhale some oxygen, would you like to buy the exhale. [LAUGH] It's like all right, okay, son of a ****. [LAUGH] It's like all right, okay, son of a ****. Right. Right. Right? Right? Where gonna come to Beijing. Where gonna come to Beijing. Yeah. Yeah. We have one cubic foot of free clean air. We have one cubic foot of free clean air. [LAUGH] Get outta here. [LAUGH] Get outta here. What about, so like, what if I'm coming out of the mall and whatever happened to the whole, like, I'm gonna follow this guy to his car. What about, so like, what if I'm coming out of the mall and whatever happened to the whole, like, I'm gonna follow this guy to his car. Right. Right. The guy's gonna be like nope, I already sold it to that Buick behind you. The guy's gonna be like nope, I already sold it to that Buick behind you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or what if you pull up to spot and it's a compact and you have a truck, and you've already paid 20 buck for it. Or what if you pull up to spot and it's a compact and you have a truck, and you've already paid 20 buck for it. Oh you're really, you're really splitting hairs here. Oh you're really, you're really splitting hairs here. You know like- You know like- What if you get swooped. What if you get swooped. Yeah that always happens. Yeah that always happens. I've done that to people before [LAUGH] I've done that to people before [LAUGH] You ****. You ****. [LAUGH] Oh you're the worst kind of driver. [LAUGH] Oh you're the worst kind of driver. Come on I've never done that. Come on I've never done that. Yes you have. Yes you have. No. No. I don't drive. I don't drive. The first step is admitting it. The first step is admitting it. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. I think for the city they're worried that it's gonna take money away from potential spots with parking meters. I think for the city they're worried that it's gonna take money away from potential spots with parking meters. Yeah. Yeah. And the parking meter money is used to go back into the infrastructure for the city to build more lanes and things like that. And the parking meter money is used to go back into the infrastructure for the city to build more lanes and things like that. Well, that's where parking monkey, the worst name ever -. Well, that's where parking monkey, the worst name ever -. Monkey parking! Monkey parking! It doesn't matter, it's the worst name ever. It doesn't matter, it's the worst name ever. It is the worse name ever, you've ever come up with. It is the worse name ever, you've ever come up with. Yeah. Yeah. Italian company. Italian company. It's terrible. It's terrible. They should give a cut back to the city of San Francisco. They should give a cut back to the city of San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. If they don't wanna look like total ****. If they don't wanna look like total ****. People are already so pissed off about corporate busses from Google and things like this-. People are already so pissed off about corporate busses from Google and things like this-. Yeah. Yeah. Genentech. Genentech. Parking in, where the muni buses pull up to pick people up. Parking in, where the muni buses pull up to pick people up. Right. Right. They're already pissed about that, and then Silicon Valley in general boosting the presence of rents and stuff like that. They're already pissed about that, and then Silicon Valley in general boosting the presence of rents and stuff like that. So what we're saying is move to San Francisco. So what we're saying is move to San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying. You can get a fight coming back from the airport. You can get a fight coming back from the airport. That's the take away. That's the take away. It's getting insane over there. It's getting insane over there. It's nuts. It's nuts. Now, when I was Singapore, by the way, so I know their parking, they have parking down to a science there. Now, when I was Singapore, by the way, so I know their parking, they have parking down to a science there. It's very organized. It's very organized. So every, structure you have or parking lot, whether it's public or private, they all have a digital sign or marquis in front that shows, that shows you exactly how many spots are left. So every, structure you have or parking lot, whether it's public or private, they all have a digital sign or marquis in front that shows, that shows you exactly how many spots are left. Brilliant. Brilliant. And then when you pull in, there are arrows that are directing you to the closest spot to you. And then when you pull in, there are arrows that are directing you to the closest spot to you. More brilliant. More brilliant. Yeah, and then that number ticks down, but each spot also has lights above them that turn red or green depending on if they're full or empty. Yeah, and then that number ticks down, but each spot also has lights above them that turn red or green depending on if they're full or empty. So you can see immediately, even if you don't have a sign in front of you, which one's are open. So you can see immediately, even if you don't have a sign in front of you, which one's are open. I see stuff like that. I see stuff like that. It looks like this, right? It looks like this, right? Genius. Genius. It looks like this a little bit. It looks like this a little bit. Little green spot over the, brilliant. Little green spot over the, brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And this is why we can't have nice things. And this is why we can't have nice things. Why the F is this not here in this country? Why the F is this not here in this country? Why is this not in New York, the hardest place on Earth to park a car? Why is this not in New York, the hardest place on Earth to park a car? Yeah. Yeah. And they are everywhere too. And they are everywhere too. I don't get it. I don't get it. So it's great. So it's great. You don't have to worry about pulling in somewhere and finding a, a-. You don't have to worry about pulling in somewhere and finding a, a-. And circling and circling. And circling and circling. Maybe that's why it's called parking monkey cuz you feel like a monkey after you circled a lot so many times. Maybe that's why it's called parking monkey cuz you feel like a monkey after you circled a lot so many times. Still the worst name ever. Still the worst name ever. Man, it just, it's not really good to be in Nintendo these days. Man, it just, it's not really good to be in Nintendo these days. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, it's getting worse and worse and worse. I, you know, it's getting worse and worse and worse. And they just put out there earnings, last 12 months, Nintendo had lost 457 million dollars. And they just put out there earnings, last 12 months, Nintendo had lost 457 million dollars. The Wii U has only sold 2.72 milion units in the last 12 months. The Wii U has only sold 2.72 milion units in the last 12 months. At this rate, they could potentially run out of cash. At this rate, they could potentially run out of cash. It used to be like, oh they have so much cash in the bank. It used to be like, oh they have so much cash in the bank. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They could do this for 50 years. They could do this for 50 years. Now that it's exponentially rising into the losses. Now that it's exponentially rising into the losses. Yeah. Yeah. They can really, see like, a wall at the end of this tunnel. They can really, see like, a wall at the end of this tunnel. That is insane. That is insane. So, last quarter, Nintendo sold how much, 310,000? So, last quarter, Nintendo sold how much, 310,000? Yeah. Yeah. Wii Us? Wii Us? Wii Us, which is not a lot. Wii Us, which is not a lot. Contrast that to the PlayStation 4 which sold 7 million since last November. Contrast that to the PlayStation 4 which sold 7 million since last November. Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy. That is crazy. It's insane. It's insane. The 3DS is doing pretty well. The 3DS is doing pretty well. But you know they're only forecasting 3.6 million Wii U sales in this current fiscal year. But you know they're only forecasting 3.6 million Wii U sales in this current fiscal year. I wonder if it's an issue with marketing and not just television commercials. I wonder if it's an issue with marketing and not just television commercials. It's everything. It's everything. Cuz you see a lot of those but-. Cuz you see a lot of those but-. It's across the board. It's across the board. Yeah, so I went, I went into a Game Stop the other week to, for my friend to buy Mortal Kombat, and I noticed that all of the advertisements for like, were for like, Titanfall or were for PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. Yeah, so I went, I went into a Game Stop the other week to, for my friend to buy Mortal Kombat, and I noticed that all of the advertisements for like, were for like, Titanfall or were for PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. And then they had like a very, very small Wii U section in the back. And then they had like a very, very small Wii U section in the back. Right. Right. Well, there's no games. Well, there's no games. Yeah. Yeah. And then there were no games for it at all. And then there were no games for it at all. In addition to just not being demoed either, you know, like, there were consoles for both of those, but there, there was no Wii U demo. In addition to just not being demoed either, you know, like, there were consoles for both of those, but there, there was no Wii U demo. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure maybe that's like a very small part of it but, you think it's a marketing deal? I'm sure maybe that's like a very small part of it but, you think it's a marketing deal? I think it's everything. I think it's everything. I think the games are not worth paying 50 bucks for, I think the software on the system sucks in terms of like, the firmware. I think the games are not worth paying 50 bucks for, I think the software on the system sucks in terms of like, the firmware. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big clunky controller that no, that has terrible battery life and is completely alienating to anyone who picks it up. It's a big clunky controller that no, that has terrible battery life and is completely alienating to anyone who picks it up. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. it's, the, it was debuted in an awful way. it's, the, it was debuted in an awful way. It was debuted too early in my opinion. It was debuted too early in my opinion. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. People didn't know like, you know, the way they described it to the press, people didn't realize you know, if it was a Wii attachment or a brand new console altogether. People didn't know like, you know, the way they described it to the press, people didn't realize you know, if it was a Wii attachment or a brand new console altogether. More of the mainstream media outlets didn't get it. More of the mainstream media outlets didn't get it. It's bad. It's bad. It's really, really bad and I don't think there's a way to save Wii U. If I'm Nintendo, I mean, they've got a few highly anticipated games coming down the pike. It's really, really bad and I don't think there's a way to save Wii U. If I'm Nintendo, I mean, they've got a few highly anticipated games coming down the pike. They have Zelda coming out, and maybe one or two other gems like another Mario game? They have Zelda coming out, and maybe one or two other gems like another Mario game? Smash Brothers too. Smash Brothers too. Smash Brother's coming out later this year. Smash Brother's coming out later this year. They're in a lot of trouble. They're in a lot of trouble. I say pull the plug on Wii U. I say pull the plug on Wii U. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. I, I say focus on, on the 3DS the one thing that does appear to continue to make money. I, I say focus on, on the 3DS the one thing that does appear to continue to make money. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And just cut your losses because at this point it's, it's worse because they are still, like, in denial about it. And just cut your losses because at this point it's, it's worse because they are still, like, in denial about it. Especially when we meet with them and they're like, here's why we use Future is Bright. Especially when we meet with them and they're like, here's why we use Future is Bright. Right. Right. It's like, no, man. It's like, no, man. It's not. It's not. It really isn't, yeah I don't know. It really isn't, yeah I don't know. Like my child, if, if I told like 12 year old, 10 year old Jeff this was gonna happen in 2014-. Like my child, if, if I told like 12 year old, 10 year old Jeff this was gonna happen in 2014-. Yeah. Yeah. He'd go, he'd cry for a few days. He'd go, he'd cry for a few days. It's gotta be an issue with simplicity, right. It's gotta be an issue with simplicity, right. I, I feel like everybody likes Nintendo because it's easy to play. I, I feel like everybody likes Nintendo because it's easy to play. You know you can just pick up a game, like a Mario game and know how to play it. You know you can just pick up a game, like a Mario game and know how to play it. Yeah. Yeah. But with this, there's such a big learning curve. But with this, there's such a big learning curve. They, they haven't, they're going through like an identity crisis right now. They, they haven't, they're going through like an identity crisis right now. They're not competing with Nintendo, with Sony and Microsoft. They're not competing with Nintendo, with Sony and Microsoft. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. They're just not in their league anymore. They're just not in their league anymore. Yeah Yeah They bail out of E3 press conferences two years in a row now, and you know, people are sort of wondering like what their saving grace. They bail out of E3 press conferences two years in a row now, and you know, people are sort of wondering like what their saving grace. What their move is? What their move is? Mm. Mm. And I don't think they know either. And I don't think they know either. Speaking of finances, I read an article about how Sony is actually really close to just getting bankrupt. Speaking of finances, I read an article about how Sony is actually really close to just getting bankrupt. All of Sony. All of Sony. with, like, you know, the Sony gaming division is the only one that's turning a profit with record sales. with, like, you know, the Sony gaming division is the only one that's turning a profit with record sales. You're talking about like electronics and movies. You're talking about like electronics and movies. But yeah, their televisions for example, their music has gone down. But yeah, their televisions for example, their music has gone down. I, I read one report that there's about 75% close to going bankrupt in the next few years. I, I read one report that there's about 75% close to going bankrupt in the next few years. That's crazy. That's crazy. Which could lead to a sale of the Sony gaming division. Which could lead to a sale of the Sony gaming division. Off to someone else. Off to someone else. Off to someone else, maybe Nintendo. Off to someone else, maybe Nintendo. Maybe Nintendo should buy it. Maybe Nintendo should buy it. Maybe Microsoft. Maybe Microsoft. Well look, that was, that was always like this amazing theory. Well look, that was, that was always like this amazing theory. Like oh, Nintendo should just merge with like Google, or you know? Like oh, Nintendo should just merge with like Google, or you know? Or Apple or [INAUDIBLE]. Or Apple or [INAUDIBLE]. Or Apple or whatever it is and then you. Or Apple or whatever it is and then you. That's the thing and, and they're, like we've said in the past, they're a very prideful company. That's the thing and, and they're, like we've said in the past, they're a very prideful company. They you know, they'll, they'll never really admit defeat. They you know, they'll, they'll never really admit defeat. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. I think they really need to merge or make a phone, like make an Android phone. I think they really need to merge or make a phone, like make an Android phone. Yeah. Yeah. A Nintendo Android phone. A Nintendo Android phone. I would buy that. I would buy that. Oh yeah? Oh yeah? With a game controller built-in. With a game controller built-in. With the controller built-in and an access to the entire vault of Nintendo software. With the controller built-in and an access to the entire vault of Nintendo software. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Ooh. Ooh. Do a Netflix style rental thing where I can do, for $5 a month, I can buy and I can play any Nintendo game. Do a Netflix style rental thing where I can do, for $5 a month, I can buy and I can play any Nintendo game. Like, there are so many ideas and they just haven't innovated, man. Like, there are so many ideas and they just haven't innovated, man. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't done anything to keep up. They haven't done anything to keep up. Not just with Microsoft and Sony, but with everyone that is just every single day cutting away at their market share. Not just with Microsoft and Sony, but with everyone that is just every single day cutting away at their market share. It's sad because everybody wants them to win, too. It's sad because everybody wants them to win, too. Of course. Of course. They have an excellent public perception. They have an excellent public perception. Of course. Of course. People love Nintendo. People love Nintendo. I love Nintendo and I don't even play video games but I like seeing the characters. I love Nintendo and I don't even play video games but I like seeing the characters. It's crazy. It's crazy. And they just can't get it together. And they just can't get it together. They can't get it together. They can't get it together. It's very strange. It's very strange. Their marketing is just now where it should be. Their marketing is just now where it should be. But where some marketing is where it should be. But where some marketing is where it should be. This is a really interesting campaign being run by Ed Boon, one of the creators of Mortal Kombat. This is a really interesting campaign being run by Ed Boon, one of the creators of Mortal Kombat. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm not gonna get into like, specifics of what it, he, the product he's actually promoting, but he's doing something really cool. You know, I'm not gonna get into like, specifics of what it, he, the product he's actually promoting, but he's doing something really cool. He's sending out these sort of cryptic tweets that all have numbers in them. He's sending out these sort of cryptic tweets that all have numbers in them. Yeah. Yeah. He started out with saying how many days are in, in a leap year in February? He started out with saying how many days are in, in a leap year in February? Right. Right. And then he, that was 29. And then he, that was 29. And he started counting out 28, and then he said, man I love the Simpsons. And he started counting out 28, and then he said, man I love the Simpsons. And linked to a Simpsons video with the number 27 with it. And linked to a Simpsons video with the number 27 with it. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. He's counting down to something. He's counting down to something. And the countdown is set to expire a few days before E3 2014. And the countdown is set to expire a few days before E3 2014. So just what is he leading up to, we don't know. So just what is he leading up to, we don't know. Is it a new game involving, you know, his company, Nether Realm? Is it a new game involving, you know, his company, Nether Realm? They make Mortal Kombat, they've made Injustice, Gods Among Us, which was a D.C. Comics fighting game. They make Mortal Kombat, they've made Injustice, Gods Among Us, which was a D.C. Comics fighting game. Really good stuff. Really good stuff. Is he ready to announce another fighting game? Is he ready to announce another fighting game? I would think so. I would think so. Hm. Hm. But I just thought the way he's going at it pretty sick. But I just thought the way he's going at it pretty sick. The height of thick. The height of thick. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently Keifer Sutherland has confirmed that he's working on a Mortal Kombat project. Apparently Keifer Sutherland has confirmed that he's working on a Mortal Kombat project. Could that be what Mr. Ed Boone is counting down to? Could that be what Mr. Ed Boone is counting down to? It's possible. It's possible. Another Mortal Kombat? Another Mortal Kombat? Another Mortal, dude that reboot, that Mortal Kombat reboot, reboot, best fighting game I've played in a decade. Another Mortal, dude that reboot, that Mortal Kombat reboot, reboot, best fighting game I've played in a decade. Yeah. Yeah. I've been playing that too. I've been playing that too. You've been playing that. You've been playing that. Sick, right? Sick, right? [INAUDIBLE] lot of fun. [INAUDIBLE] lot of fun. Amazing. Amazing. So good. So good. So I'd love to see you know, what's happening. So I'd love to see you know, what's happening. And we'll all find out in just 27 short days. And we'll all find out in just 27 short days. Cool. Cool. All right, let's get to a few emails. All right, let's get to a few emails. We've got a lot of contact, we're still freaking people out across the planet about the UVB hidden messages, number stations, all that stuff. We've got a lot of contact, we're still freaking people out across the planet about the UVB hidden messages, number stations, all that stuff. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. This I wanted to read cuz it was kinda like a no brainer and I just thought it was funny that, someone was telling us this. This I wanted to read cuz it was kinda like a no brainer and I just thought it was funny that, someone was telling us this. Kevin writes in and says "Hey I'd never heard of that UVB76 signal before but after listening to that show, I immediately thought of the movie Contact with Jodi Foster." yeah we've heard of that, we've heard of Contact. Kevin writes in and says "Hey I'd never heard of that UVB76 signal before but after listening to that show, I immediately thought of the movie Contact with Jodi Foster." yeah we've heard of that, we've heard of Contact. [LAUGH] He said the idea for that movie must have come from UVB 76. [LAUGH] He said the idea for that movie must have come from UVB 76. Probably yeah, so, we kinda, we kinda heard that in the back of our head a little bit. Probably yeah, so, we kinda, we kinda heard that in the back of our head a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Paul writes in about that Emmer Feffer, what, what do we call, did we call them mother effing? Paul writes in about that Emmer Feffer, what, what do we call, did we call them mother effing? I don't know. I don't know. I think he's just really excited about the concept. I think he's just really excited about the concept. We were talking about putting headphones into the jacks of every arm rest and-. We were talking about putting headphones into the jacks of every arm rest and-. Right. Right. He goes, in 30 seconds, you guys effortlessly hit all of my movie points. He goes, in 30 seconds, you guys effortlessly hit all of my movie points. My wife loves going to the movies, I don't for all the reasons Justin had mentioned. My wife loves going to the movies, I don't for all the reasons Justin had mentioned. Loud kids and adults sitting next to a stranger for three hours. Loud kids and adults sitting next to a stranger for three hours. The texting idiots, et cetera. The texting idiots, et cetera. Sticky floors. Sticky floors. Sticky floors, oh. Sticky floors, oh. [LAUGH] You added that one in. [LAUGH] You added that one in. Sticky floor's a problem for you? Sticky floor's a problem for you? Yeah, I hate sticky floors. Yeah, I hate sticky floors. I mean, no one enjoys sticky floors, but I'm not, I'm not avoiding movie theaters because they have sticky floors. I mean, no one enjoys sticky floors, but I'm not, I'm not avoiding movie theaters because they have sticky floors. It's just soda. It's just soda. It's, oh. It's, oh. You know what that kind is, it's not what you think it is. You know what that kind is, it's not what you think it is. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] That's not what I was thinking. That's not what I was thinking. That's not what I was thinking. That's not what I was thinking. Imagine how much of that [CROSSTALK] Imagine how much of that [CROSSTALK] Totally not. Totally not. I swear that's not what I was thinking. I swear that's not what I was thinking. You know what I was thinking it was is like dried butter, that like liquid butter. You know what I was thinking it was is like dried butter, that like liquid butter. That's right. That's right. Have, have you seen that station they have oh, at the Battery Park movie theater there was, yeah. Have, have you seen that station they have oh, at the Battery Park movie theater there was, yeah. But not even that, like so we saw this pump station, right, next to the like where all the condiments are, and they have this like butter reservoir and the pump it self is so long, that you can push it down for like a solid 45 seconds and just have streams of this liquid butter coming out. But not even that, like so we saw this pump station, right, next to the like where all the condiments are, and they have this like butter reservoir and the pump it self is so long, that you can push it down for like a solid 45 seconds and just have streams of this liquid butter coming out. It is, there was this girl that was literally just like holding a bucket underneath. It is, there was this girl that was literally just like holding a bucket underneath. Pressing down and like moving the bucket around. Pressing down and like moving the bucket around. Like it was soft serve. Like it was soft serve. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah but like, for like a solid minute. Yeah but like, for like a solid minute. We just watched her and just cracked up. We just watched her and just cracked up. I'm sorry man you know, the guy to my left is talking about how gross butter, you know, fountain is. I'm sorry man you know, the guy to my left is talking about how gross butter, you know, fountain is. But, I look at what you eat man, it's not much different. But, I look at what you eat man, it's not much different. But you probably cleaned off that, you should clean that thing out over the course of an hour and a half. But you probably cleaned off that, you should clean that thing out over the course of an hour and a half. And if you had measured that in a cup, I'm sure it would be I don't know. And if you had measured that in a cup, I'm sure it would be I don't know. So holier than thou, oh my God. So holier than thou, oh my God. Okay bacon sandwich Larry, I'm sure there's no butter in that process. Okay bacon sandwich Larry, I'm sure there's no butter in that process. Alright either way we totally identify, he says, he agrees the Battery Park City AMC is legit that's the only place I go, it's tolerable. Alright either way we totally identify, he says, he agrees the Battery Park City AMC is legit that's the only place I go, it's tolerable. But yeah, we're hitting first world problems here for sure. But yeah, we're hitting first world problems here for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so Ken sent us an email about the same thing, and he was telling us about how in Korea they've opened up Beats by Dre collaborative movie theaters. Oh, so Ken sent us an email about the same thing, and he was telling us about how in Korea they've opened up Beats by Dre collaborative movie theaters. I didn't see that when I was there, but he says that all the seats have their studio head phones built-in, just like we talked about. I didn't see that when I was there, but he says that all the seats have their studio head phones built-in, just like we talked about. And then they all have one time sanitary ear patches you can wear on them. And then they all have one time sanitary ear patches you can wear on them. Brilliant. Brilliant. So you don't have to worry about earwax getting on you. So you don't have to worry about earwax getting on you. Problem solved. Problem solved. Yeah, it's a collaboration between cinema chain in Korea called CGD, and these electronics. Yeah, it's a collaboration between cinema chain in Korea called CGD, and these electronics. Well, they're all bootlegged Beats by Dre. Well, they're all bootlegged Beats by Dre. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Yeah. Yeah. Was that [INAUDIBLE]. Was that [INAUDIBLE]. I think China, China has all the bootlegged. I think China, China has all the bootlegged. Korea might be okay. Korea might be okay. Korea's legit. Korea's legit. But that sounds pretty cool. But that sounds pretty cool. If we can get that going with non Beats by Dre headphones maybe If we can get that going with non Beats by Dre headphones maybe Just sound cancelling. Just sound cancelling. Yeah. Yeah. I just, and, you know what they say, the second that happens, then the phones will start to, like, really annoy you, and, stand out more. I just, and, you know what they say, the second that happens, then the phones will start to, like, really annoy you, and, stand out more. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's just no way of getting around it. There's just no way of getting around it. You'll just have to wait two weeks for the movie to come out on Blu-Ray. You'll just have to wait two weeks for the movie to come out on Blu-Ray. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Yeah, that's how long it's taking these days, sorta. Yeah, that's how long it's taking these days, sorta. And then finally, Kylie writes in and says, I've got two cents to add to the number stations conversations. And then finally, Kylie writes in and says, I've got two cents to add to the number stations conversations. My friends posits that these number stations were originally created and still used to brainwash Russian prisoners. My friends posits that these number stations were originally created and still used to brainwash Russian prisoners. I think-. I think-. No background. No background. Like he has no further details. Like he has no further details. That's it. That's it. Thinks that. Thinks that. I think they might be messages to Russian covert missions, or even signals into space, as a, we're out here, message. I think they might be messages to Russian covert missions, or even signals into space, as a, we're out here, message. sorry, we out here. sorry, we out here. Not we're out here. Not we're out here. We're out here. We're out here. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Still sounds creepy as, uh-. Still sounds creepy as, uh-. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. It's creepy for sure. It's creepy for sure. I need some citations on those claims. I need some citations on those claims. I mean, they're not bad but-. I mean, they're not bad but-. You can claim anything. You can claim anything. Yeah, [LAUGH] but I wanna hear a little bit more about horses. Yeah, [LAUGH] but I wanna hear a little bit more about horses. You don't need, you don't need a background check or a, or a reference or source to claim anything. You don't need, you don't need a background check or a, or a reference or source to claim anything. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Nice. Nice. Yes. Yes. Ten points if you know what that's from. Ten points if you know what that's from. finally, some programming notes that we need to tell you fine people about. finally, some programming notes that we need to tell you fine people about. I lied. I lied. I lied. I lied. I lied to you. I lied to you. I lied to everyone. I lied to everyone. I lied to the entire internet. I lied to the entire internet. Kitty Lennon all had to cancel again tomorrow. Kitty Lennon all had to cancel again tomorrow. Again? Again? That's two lies. That's two lies. She's lying a lot to us. She's lying a lot to us. She promises that she'll be back, so right now, we've got her tentatively schedule for the week after next, or perhaps the end of next week, we're still emailing back and forth. She promises that she'll be back, so right now, we've got her tentatively schedule for the week after next, or perhaps the end of next week, we're still emailing back and forth. Don't worry, she's not cancelled for good. Don't worry, she's not cancelled for good. She is coming at some point. She is coming at some point. Also Andrew W.K., that is a week from Tuesday with a live musical performance as well. Also Andrew W.K., that is a week from Tuesday with a live musical performance as well. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Go to our sub Reddit and participate in the thread we've got going. Go to our sub Reddit and participate in the thread we've got going. It's called Andrew W.K. is coming back and needs your help. It's called Andrew W.K. is coming back and needs your help. Help us come up with ideas that we can pitch to Andrew W.K. as he is making up this song on the spot. Help us come up with ideas that we can pitch to Andrew W.K. as he is making up this song on the spot. He doesn't want them before. He doesn't want them before. He's gonna do it all live. He's gonna do it all live. He's gonna come up with it off the dome. He's gonna come up with it off the dome. Mh-hm. Mh-hm. Off that amazing head to hair dome. Off that amazing head to hair dome. Okay? Okay? So it's gonna be a lot of fun. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. We'll have him on one week from today. We'll have him on one week from today. I'm so psyche to have him back. I'm so psyche to have him back. I'm very excited too. I'm very excited too. Also, Mr Morgan Spurlock is in our very immediate future. Also, Mr Morgan Spurlock is in our very immediate future. He'll be back as well as Reggie Watts. He'll be back as well as Reggie Watts. For the first time on 404, that is all coming up later in May, early June so there's a lot to look forward to on the 404. For the first time on 404, that is all coming up later in May, early June so there's a lot to look forward to on the 404. Yeah. Yeah. People want Andrew W.K. to sing about me being skinny fat, your fear of the sun, Ariel's production work, and then getting lost in the swamp. People want Andrew W.K. to sing about me being skinny fat, your fear of the sun, Ariel's production work, and then getting lost in the swamp. They're just like, those are some of the themes that people want and requested. They're just like, those are some of the themes that people want and requested. I think we've got a song there. I think we've got a song there. So that's just a few of them, if you want your own, email us or contribute to that thread. So that's just a few of them, if you want your own, email us or contribute to that thread. There you go. There you go. And just to remind you, that's at reddit.com slash R slash 404, hit that little subscribe button and you'll get updates, whenever we have a cool thread in that subreddit. And just to remind you, that's at reddit.com slash R slash 404, hit that little subscribe button and you'll get updates, whenever we have a cool thread in that subreddit. That's gonna do it for us. That's gonna do it for us. Shoot us an email the 404@cnet.com. Shoot us an email the 404@cnet.com. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and all that crap. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and all that crap. We're back here tomorrow. We're back here tomorrow. Hope you have a fantastic Wednesday. Hope you have a fantastic Wednesday. Until then I'm Jeff Bacalar. Until then I'm Jeff Bacalar. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Ariel Ninez. I'm Ariel Ninez. This has been the 404 show high tech, low brow. This has been the 404 show high tech, low brow. See you guys tomorrow. See you guys tomorrow. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]

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