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The 404: The 404 1,451: Where we wish you a robotic happy birthday (podcast)

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The 404: The 404 1,451: Where we wish you a robotic happy birthday (podcast)

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A recap of everything we love about "True Detective" and the whispers about next season, then everything we hate about Taylor Swift's cameo in the trailer for "The Giver."

[MUSIC] [MUSIC] Hey, what's up everyone it's Monday, March 24th 2014 it's the 404 show on CNET. Hey, what's up everyone it's Monday, March 24th 2014 it's the 404 show on CNET. I'm Jeff Bacalar. I'm Jeff Bacalar. I'm Justin Nyu. I'm Justin Nyu. I'm Mario Nunies. I'm Mario Nunies. Hey, what's up everyone. Hey, what's up everyone. Hope you're having a fantastic Monday morning. Hope you're having a fantastic Monday morning. Although it's Monday how could it be that awesome. Although it's Monday how could it be that awesome. I mean, for you it should be awesome. I mean, for you it should be awesome. Not that awesome. Not that awesome. [LAUGH] Everybody please join me in wishing Jeff Bachler a Happy Birthday today. [LAUGH] Everybody please join me in wishing Jeff Bachler a Happy Birthday today. [NOISE] which I actually wold not have known without the help of Facebook. [NOISE] which I actually wold not have known without the help of Facebook. So thank you Facebook as well. So thank you Facebook as well. Thank you, Facebook. Thank you, Facebook. I'm sure you're never going to know that. I'm sure you're never going to know that. And, I apologize for not knowing your birthday. And, I apologize for not knowing your birthday. It's alright. It's alright. I, I know yours is you know, January 17th, [LAUGH]. I, I know yours is you know, January 17th, [LAUGH]. You knew that because you just looked it up. You knew that because you just looked it up. No. No. Right now. Right now. I just have a like a Rainman thing with birthdays. I just have a like a Rainman thing with birthdays. Yeah. Yeah. No one has that but you. No one has that but you. That's just me. That's just me. But, regardless, Happy birthday, man. But, regardless, Happy birthday, man. Thanks. Thanks. 32 years old today. 32 years old today. So, meaningless, this one. So, meaningless, this one. Not going to celebrate another one for eight years. Not going to celebrate another one for eight years. I mean, exactly. I mean, exactly. Like it just doesn't mean anything. Like it just doesn't mean anything. Thirty two. Thirty two. Who cares? Who cares? It means something. It means something. Who cares? Who cares? It shows you who your real friends are on Facebook. It shows you who your real friends are on Facebook. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. And if nothing else, that's what we can thank this one day a year for. And if nothing else, that's what we can thank this one day a year for. I'm looking at your page here, man. I'm looking at your page here, man. You got some good likes. You got some good likes. [LAUGH] You got some really. [LAUGH] You got some really. Why? Why? Sweet birthday messages. Sweet birthday messages. Want me to ready all of them to you right now? Want me to ready all of them to you right now? No. No. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. [LAUGH] Yeah, dog. [LAUGH] Yeah, dog. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] So. So. They're like the most meaningful messages I've ever seen. They're like the most meaningful messages I've ever seen. So, so, so we could. So, so, so we could. Spend a, a minute or two talking about. Spend a, a minute or two talking about. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Like, the sad existence of, like, robot wishes, robot birthday wishes. Like, the sad existence of, like, robot wishes, robot birthday wishes. Right. Right. There's something very awkward and eerie about the whole thing. There's something very awkward and eerie about the whole thing. Mm-hm, message board's sending you bur, I like birthday messages and things like that. Mm-hm, message board's sending you bur, I like birthday messages and things like that. You know, you get, like, a Google Now alert. You know, you get, like, a Google Now alert. Yeah. Yeah. Google's wishing, it's just. Google's wishing, it's just. I got one from Chilli's. I got one from Chilli's. Well, my birthday in January, Well, my birthday in January, [LAUGH] That is truly sad. [LAUGH] That is truly sad. Because I had probably filled out a card Because I had probably filled out a card Yeah, right. Yeah, right. 20 years ago about my birthday. 20 years ago about my birthday. And now. And now. So I get it, like at some point, one of these places was like hey, I got a great, like we gotta automate happy birthday greetings to people. So I get it, like at some point, one of these places was like hey, I got a great, like we gotta automate happy birthday greetings to people. Yeah. Yeah. And, over a long enough period of time, they become so disingenuous that they almost. And, over a long enough period of time, they become so disingenuous that they almost. Take away any meaning you would have for your own birthday. Take away any meaning you would have for your own birthday. Wait, we're talking about the robot wishes or your friends' wishes? Wait, we're talking about the robot wishes or your friends' wishes? Robot wishes. Robot wishes. Even like the habitual sort of like, you know, Pavlovian response to just doing that. Even like the habitual sort of like, you know, Pavlovian response to just doing that. Right. Right. I mean like, don't get me wrong, and I don't want to act like, look there's plenty of people Who wish me a happy birthday I mean like, don't get me wrong, and I don't want to act like, look there's plenty of people Who wish me a happy birthday I couldn't be with you in person otherwise I couldn't be with you in person otherwise That's cool those people I really like and know, but it does feel like the majority of those wishes are from people that I, A, don't know straight up, B, I've not seen in years, and years and years and years. That's cool those people I really like and know, but it does feel like the majority of those wishes are from people that I, A, don't know straight up, B, I've not seen in years, and years and years and years. And, likely have forgotten about. And, likely have forgotten about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if they were really your friends, they would send you gifts. I mean, if they were really your friends, they would send you gifts. Nah, I'm not asking for gifts man, cuz I aint get **** from you. Nah, I'm not asking for gifts man, cuz I aint get **** from you. No, but I'm just saying. No, but I'm just saying. I, yeah like it. I, yeah like it. How do you feel about it? How do you feel about it? Cuz to me I'm very open with discussing the emotional impact of disingenuous Facebook birthday wishes. Cuz to me I'm very open with discussing the emotional impact of disingenuous Facebook birthday wishes. Well it's not. Well it's not. Okay. Okay. So yeah. So yeah. I feel like it's supposed to elicit some kind of emotion in you that. I feel like it's supposed to elicit some kind of emotion in you that. You know? You know? Everyone gives that. Everyone gives that. At the end of the day they put out, like, the, thank you, everyone. At the end of the day they put out, like, the, thank you, everyone. Right. Right. For your birthday wishes. For your birthday wishes. I feel so loved. I feel so loved. Right. Right. But now it's gotten to a point where it's. But now it's gotten to a point where it's. So meaningless that it doesn't really release and Dopamine at all. So meaningless that it doesn't really release and Dopamine at all. Right. Right. Like. Like. Your body's developed an immunity to it. Your body's developed an immunity to it. Right, like you ignore it so much that, you just don't get any gratification, it's just not enough. Right, like you ignore it so much that, you just don't get any gratification, it's just not enough. I don't care how many funny gifts he posts up. I don't care how many funny gifts he posts up. Cuz now, right exactly cause now all it is, is me get, having to delete 100 Facebook messages. Cuz now, right exactly cause now all it is, is me get, having to delete 100 Facebook messages. Whoa, whoa wait a minute. Whoa, whoa wait a minute. You delete them from your wall? You delete them from your wall? No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. The notification that somebody wrote only our wall. The notification that somebody wrote only our wall. Oh. Oh. You don't even like the comments. You don't even like the comments. [LAUGH] Like, some people like every single birthday wish on their Facebook wall. [LAUGH] Like, some people like every single birthday wish on their Facebook wall. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Like I said, I'm not unappreciative. Like I said, I'm not unappreciative. Yeah. Yeah. I just. I just. I don't know Mario, are you with me man? I don't know Mario, are you with me man? Yeah definitely. Yeah definitely. Like so I have a trick. Like so I have a trick. I, I turned off all of. I, I turned off all of. I make it so no one can post on my wall. I make it so no one can post on my wall. Nice. Nice. And then ah,on my birthday I just put like one kind of status and then everyone comments on that one thing. And then ah,on my birthday I just put like one kind of status and then everyone comments on that one thing. Awww. Awww. So that just hides it all. So that just hides it all. That's super-organized. That's super-organized. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You've got it all figured out, huh. You've got it all figured out, huh. Don't spam up my facebook page, man. Don't spam up my facebook page, man. But then no one can post on your wall though. But then no one can post on your wall though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't need people to post on my wall. I don't need people to post on my wall. Ever. Ever. You know, never, never. You know, never, never. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Hey, that's, yeah, that's pretty intense. Hey, that's, yeah, that's pretty intense. Yeah, I like that I, I think I should pager it's all your own stuff on their wall which is fine cuz i it's usually like inside jokes that people post up on your wall anyway. Yeah, I like that I, I think I should pager it's all your own stuff on their wall which is fine cuz i it's usually like inside jokes that people post up on your wall anyway. Yeah. Yeah. And they can comment on my posts if they want to. And they can comment on my posts if they want to. I mean, or just like send me a personal message, you know [CROSSTALK] I don't need it to be bubbly [CROSSTALK] I mean, or just like send me a personal message, you know [CROSSTALK] I don't need it to be bubbly [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. You know? You know? Right. Right. Cuz it's too easy to send a Facebook thing. Cuz it's too easy to send a Facebook thing. For sure. For sure. Right. Right. I don't even do that anymore for other people [CROSSTALK] I don't even do that anymore for other people [CROSSTALK] Yeah, I don't either. Yeah, I don't either. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday. I used to say to Everybody I knew. I used to say to Everybody I knew. Yeah. Yeah. But now I just don't even care. But now I just don't even care. Cuz honestly, even on my birthday, I'm not like, oh man, Jeff didn't put a birthday wish on my wall. Cuz honestly, even on my birthday, I'm not like, oh man, Jeff didn't put a birthday wish on my wall. Right, exactly. Right, exactly. Like, it's not like, a very hurtful thing. Like, it's not like, a very hurtful thing. No one cares either way. No one cares either way. That, and that's the point that I'm trying to make, is that, it's just. That, and that's the point that I'm trying to make, is that, it's just. It's so overkill, over the last. It's so overkill, over the last. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it was special, like, the first time, I think. Like, it was special, like, the first time, I think. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. But then after, over and over, it just loses and you get desensitized. But then after, over and over, it just loses and you get desensitized. Right. Right. And it's just like, now, it's almost like a chore. And it's just like, now, it's almost like a chore. Yeah. Yeah. For some people, it does matter, though. For some people, it does matter, though. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess. I think, like, when you reach a certain point, like, yeah, you have too many friends, you don't give a **** anymore. I think, like, when you reach a certain point, like, yeah, you have too many friends, you don't give a **** anymore. But for people like our parents, Stuff like that is a big indicator of how much people like you or dislike you. But for people like our parents, Stuff like that is a big indicator of how much people like you or dislike you. I guess so. I guess so. Right, I mean, I don't know if your parents done [INAUDIBLE]. Right, I mean, I don't know if your parents done [INAUDIBLE]. Well, like would it be weird if I just got like zero today? Well, like would it be weird if I just got like zero today? Yeah, that'll be a bummer. Yeah, that'll be a bummer. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. And it was publicly on display and just. And it was publicly on display and just. Birthday. Birthday. Right. Right. But no one cares. But no one cares. Yeah. Yeah. That would, kinda be awesome. That would, kinda be awesome. That would suck. That would suck. I'm almost wishing for that, for 33. I'm almost wishing for that, for 33. Next year I will go through each of your friends. Next year I will go through each of your friends. And delete them. And delete them. And tell them all. And tell them all. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Hey, this is what Jeff really wants. Hey, this is what Jeff really wants. Like I'm trying to do a social experiment here. Like I'm trying to do a social experiment here. Play along. Play along. Man, that'd be, that'd be special. Man, that'd be, that'd be special. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, it wasn't all bad. Well, look, it wasn't all bad. I finally binge watched. I finally binge watched. True detective. True detective. That's how you spent your birthday? That's how you spent your birthday? Well, my birthday's today. Well, my birthday's today. Yeah. Yeah. We've established that. We've established that. huh. huh. I was in Las Vegas for some of the weekend, came back, binge watched True Detective. I was in Las Vegas for some of the weekend, came back, binge watched True Detective. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Nice. Nice. I'm in love with the show. I'm in love with the show. I don't wanna, I know you guys talked about maybe while I was gone. I don't wanna, I know you guys talked about maybe while I was gone. We talked about it a little bit, I mean we're not gonna talk about the ending. We talked about it a little bit, I mean we're not gonna talk about the ending. Of course not. Of course not. Well, ya'll haven't seen the last one. Well, ya'll haven't seen the last one. Yeah, haven't seen the last one. Yeah, haven't seen the last one. Which like, almost should be illegal cuz you've seen all it except [CROSSTALK] Which like, almost should be illegal cuz you've seen all it except [CROSSTALK] I don't know how you've been able to harness that self-control when I watched the last episode. I don't know how you've been able to harness that self-control when I watched the last episode. I always want to leave, cuz, I binge-watched, like, up to six. I always want to leave, cuz, I binge-watched, like, up to six. Yeah. Yeah. And then I was okay, I need to leave some so I have something to watch. And then I was okay, I need to leave some so I have something to watch. Spill. Spill. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah,yeah,yeah. Yeah,yeah,yeah. But I'm just going to watch the last one. But I'm just going to watch the last one. Stockpiling. Stockpiling. Yeah. Yeah. There's just a few things I just want to say real quick about it. There's just a few things I just want to say real quick about it. I know we talked a little bit about it when Sadie was here from TV Guide. I know we talked a little bit about it when Sadie was here from TV Guide. She really dug the show right? She really dug the show right? She did. She did. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone loved it. Everyone loved it. I feel like if you don't like this show, I don't know. I feel like if you don't like this show, I don't know. I don't know if I can trust you anymore. I don't know if I can trust you anymore. Number one, that episode four. Number one, that episode four. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Was like some of the greatest TV I've ever seen. Was like some of the greatest TV I've ever seen. Okay. Okay. Wait, which episode was that? Wait, which episode was that? I watched all of them. I watched all of them. He infiltrates Devil's Crusaders. He infiltrates Devil's Crusaders. Oh right, right, right. Oh right, right, right. After the, the projects, right. After the, the projects, right. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And the last thing I'll say about it is that I kinda wish True Detective was a video game. And the last thing I'll say about it is that I kinda wish True Detective was a video game. Mm-hm, there's something so like intoxicating about the atmosphere and creepy, right? Mm-hm, there's something so like intoxicating about the atmosphere and creepy, right? With all the craftwork and the sticks, like all that stuff. With all the craftwork and the sticks, like all that stuff. Right. Right. It lends itself really well, I think, in my opinion, to a video game. It lends itself really well, I think, in my opinion, to a video game. And the way they tell stories in video games,I think, I think True Detective. And the way they tell stories in video games,I think, I think True Detective. The show would be better than the video game, but I'm still in the back of my head, like while I was watching this was kinda of like, man, they've got enough villains and enough sort of like. The show would be better than the video game, but I'm still in the back of my head, like while I was watching this was kinda of like, man, they've got enough villains and enough sort of like. Yeah. Yeah. Scenes where this would have been. Scenes where this would have been. One of the best narrative video games ever. One of the best narrative video games ever. But it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be an actiony video game, because there's very few action sequences. But it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be an actiony video game, because there's very few action sequences. Right, it would be slow. Right, it would be slow. It'd be slow. It'd be slow. It would be like that game Heavy Rain that you used to play. It would be like that game Heavy Rain that you used to play. See, and then, then. See, and then, then. It was like a crime-solving, sort of thriller, dialogue based video game. It was like a crime-solving, sort of thriller, dialogue based video game. Right, sure. Right, sure. But then I got to thinking about that, and I was like, oh my god, I don't want that You don't? But then I got to thinking about that, and I was like, oh my god, I don't want that You don't? No, because number one, Heavy Ram was good but Beyond I thought was terrible so I don't want that, I want like my cake and I want to eat it too. No, because number one, Heavy Ram was good but Beyond I thought was terrible so I don't want that, I want like my cake and I want to eat it too. I want some sort of hybrid where. I want some sort of hybrid where. Like a Resident Evil type thing? Like a Resident Evil type thing? Like with more strategy? Like with more strategy? Yeah, maybe, and maybe more narrative and sort of like. Yeah, maybe, and maybe more narrative and sort of like. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I feel like that's what they're trying to do with those David Cage games like Heavy Rain and Beyond. You know, and I feel like that's what they're trying to do with those David Cage games like Heavy Rain and Beyond. But man, this, it's just, there was something so perfect about it. But man, this, it's just, there was something so perfect about it. Yeah. Yeah. It, and like it was 8 hours. It, and like it was 8 hours. That's a perfect time for a good video game. That's a perfect time for a good video game. It would have been something special. It would have been something special. Well the, the show isn't over yet. Well the, the show isn't over yet. So, it can't be a video game just yet because even we don't even know what's going to be happening. So, it can't be a video game just yet because even we don't even know what's going to be happening. Did you hear over the weekend they announced that Brad Pitt may be one of the actors involved in the second season? Did you hear over the weekend they announced that Brad Pitt may be one of the actors involved in the second season? I mean, like who, are you upset with that? I mean, like who, are you upset with that? No, not at all cuz it's basically gonna be TV out of Patient of 7. No, not at all cuz it's basically gonna be TV out of Patient of 7. Right. Right. And he's already played that role really well. And he's already played that role really well. Exactly. Exactly. I mean as long as he's not wearing like a scarf and his hair blowing i'm fine. I mean as long as he's not wearing like a scarf and his hair blowing i'm fine. Yeah. Yeah. Could you imagine if it was Brad Pitt and Steve Buchevy? Could you imagine if it was Brad Pitt and Steve Buchevy? Aw! Aw! Don't even get me started. Don't even get me started. Who, who would be the partner. Who, who would be the partner. Like who would be his Marty? Like who would be his Marty? Buchevy? Buchevy? Maybe. Maybe. Well. Well. What if it's Christopher Walken? What if it's Christopher Walken? No. No. He, he. He, he. That would be. That would be. Unfortunately,he would be, he could have a cameo. Unfortunately,he would be, he could have a cameo. But he, unfortunately he is too old for the part. But he, unfortunately he is too old for the part. Yeah. Yeah. But man, I really just, there's something. But man, I really just, there's something. I fell in love with that whole thing. I fell in love with that whole thing. And you know, the characters are so twisted, and so scary. And you know, the characters are so twisted, and so scary. Yeah. Yeah. it's, yeah. it's, yeah. I just, I know I'm late to the party, but oh my god. I just, I know I'm late to the party, but oh my god. Yeah, it's super creepy. Yeah, it's super creepy. It's great. It's great. Make flowers on me. Make flowers on me. Oh, man! Oh, man! [LAUGH] [LAUGH] That won't mean anything to you unless you watch it, but. That won't mean anything to you unless you watch it, but. It's. It's. Oh boy. Oh boy. Yeah, and you know what I think the best part of that show was, was the art direction. Yeah, and you know what I think the best part of that show was, was the art direction. Yeah, with all the Carcoza stuff. Yeah, with all the Carcoza stuff. The Carcoza stuff. The Carcoza stuff. The stick things. The stick things. The really grimy situations they find themselves in, in these like, you know, southern Louisiana. The really grimy situations they find themselves in, in these like, you know, southern Louisiana. Of core, I mean, let's be honest, they're [INAUDIBLE] holes where some of these. Of core, I mean, let's be honest, they're [INAUDIBLE] holes where some of these. Right. Right. Play, scenes take place. Play, scenes take place. Really good stuff. Really good stuff. And I know Ariell hasn't seen episode eight. And I know Ariell hasn't seen episode eight. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. But that's some of the best, you know, art, art direction in the entire season. But that's some of the best, you know, art, art direction in the entire season. Yeah, there was a lot of weird, unexplained stuff in the show, too. Yeah, there was a lot of weird, unexplained stuff in the show, too. I guess. I guess. There's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff. I, I don't want to go over it. I, I don't want to go over it. That, like, remains unanswered for the most part. That, like, remains unanswered for the most part. Right. Right. But that's fine. But that's fine. And I get it. And I get it. And the, the writer and. And the, the writer and. Creator, he, I've seen a few interviews with him since it all transpired and. Creator, he, I've seen a few interviews with him since it all transpired and. Right. Right. He's, I feel like he, half of him likes the mystery that he was able to create and half of him's just like eh, I didn't tie anything up. He's, I feel like he, half of him likes the mystery that he was able to create and half of him's just like eh, I didn't tie anything up. Yeah, a lot of the stuff is like, well we left it out but we didn't catch anything that we're not gonna [CROSSTALK]. Yeah, a lot of the stuff is like, well we left it out but we didn't catch anything that we're not gonna [CROSSTALK]. And I think that's kind of cool because I think a lot of, like, you know, I get it. And I think that's kind of cool because I think a lot of, like, you know, I get it. Like some people are obsessed with the universes. Like some people are obsessed with the universes. Right. Right. They create. They create. Right, right, right. Right, right, right. And like there's a lot of mythology that people just love to dive into. And like there's a lot of mythology that people just love to dive into. Yeah. Yeah. But a part of him is just like. But a part of him is just like. Man its okay if there's not all the answers. Man its okay if there's not all the answers. Right. Right. And I like that. And I like that. People, I, I like how people come up with their own theories for it but then there's never any answer to questions, and people had the five horseman theory People, I, I like how people come up with their own theories for it but then there's never any answer to questions, and people had the five horseman theory Sure. Sure. Right, right and the whole who is, whats the yellow king really? Right, right and the whole who is, whats the yellow king really? Like what happened to his daughter, and why was she having those dolls set up like that? Like what happened to his daughter, and why was she having those dolls set up like that? Right, right. Right, right. Here's one of the craziest unanswered questions from, from the last season that I didn't even see, but a really, really clever Redditor actually spotted it. Here's one of the craziest unanswered questions from, from the last season that I didn't even see, but a really, really clever Redditor actually spotted it. So, there's a painting, and here's a photo of it, there's a painting above Marty's bed. So, there's a painting, and here's a photo of it, there's a painting above Marty's bed. The home that he shares with his wife. The home that he shares with his wife. That is an exact replica of a larger painting that exists in the hospital where Russ first admits it's Kelly, which is the girl that he saved from that, the dude's compound. That is an exact replica of a larger painting that exists in the hospital where Russ first admits it's Kelly, which is the girl that he saved from that, the dude's compound. Okay. Okay. So here's. So here's. Here's this photo. Here's this photo. This painting. This painting. It's like a bunch of, flowers. It's like a bunch of, flowers. Yeah. Yeah. And then you can see the painting again repeat itself in this hospital. And then you can see the painting again repeat itself in this hospital. And. And. Mm. Mm. And this is the screenshot we're looking at now. And this is the screenshot we're looking at now. See. See. To me that's an Easter egg. To me that's an Easter egg. To me that's just. To me that's just. Something's happening there. Something's happening there. But it doesn't mean anything. But it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. There's clearly. There's clearly. It's, it's clearly deliberate. It's, it's clearly deliberate. Right, of course. Right, of course. But, to me that's just like, the creators just having fun. But, to me that's just like, the creators just having fun. Messing with your head. Messing with your head. And that's the kind of show you can do that with, because it tip toes that line of supernatural, where, you know, things are very strange, and eerie, and occulty. And that's the kind of show you can do that with, because it tip toes that line of supernatural, where, you know, things are very strange, and eerie, and occulty. Something feels off. Something feels off. Yeah, it's sort of like Twin Peaks. Yeah, it's sort of like Twin Peaks. Right. Right. Did you ever watch that show? Did you ever watch that show? Absolutely. Absolutely. Very David Lynchian. Very David Lynchian. Right. Right. And I, that's why I love the show so much and that, and I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised that it had such a huge sort of positive re, reception. And I, that's why I love the show so much and that, and I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised that it had such a huge sort of positive re, reception. Oh, really? Oh, really? You didn't think it was You didn't think it was I, I, I re, you know, I, after I finished episode eight, I'm like man, I can't believe people really like, I can't belie. I, I, I re, you know, I, after I finished episode eight, I'm like man, I can't believe people really like, I can't belie. Like, I understand the critical acclaim because it was brilliant but I'm surprised like. Like, I understand the critical acclaim because it was brilliant but I'm surprised like. It had mainstream success. It had mainstream success. Because it was super screwed up. Because it was super screwed up. That and the first couple episodes don't really do much to explain what the show is really going to be about. That and the first couple episodes don't really do much to explain what the show is really going to be about. They kind of shift timelines and there's two timelines going on at the same time, right? They kind of shift timelines and there's two timelines going on at the same time, right? Right. Right. So, I, I what was it about the first couple episodes where you were like, okay I'm in this for a little while? So, I, I what was it about the first couple episodes where you were like, okay I'm in this for a little while? Well, I was into it right away because. Well, I was into it right away because. Just the, the character, the present day Matt McConaughey. Just the, the character, the present day Matt McConaughey. Right, right. Right, right. I mean, we're, we're, you see what's happening here. I mean, we're, we're, you see what's happening here. We're going down the rabbit hole. We're going down the rabbit hole. Like we're, we only wanna spend a little bit of time. Like we're, we only wanna spend a little bit of time. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. [LAUGH] Yeah. But like. But like. The, just looking into his eyes. The, just looking into his eyes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. While he was being interrogated, I was like, Jesus, this guy's lame is all out there. While he was being interrogated, I was like, Jesus, this guy's lame is all out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first two, episodes were, were relatively slow, but they were compelling and they were very visually, staggering. The first two, episodes were, were relatively slow, but they were compelling and they were very visually, staggering. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And there, then, the end of episode three when they show. And there, then, the end of episode three when they show. That maniac with the machete and the gas mask. That maniac with the machete and the gas mask. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like oh, there we go. I'm like oh, there we go. Right Right Now I know what I'm in for. Now I know what I'm in for. And that's when I felt like it should have been a video game. And that's when I felt like it should have been a video game. Because that, that looks like a boss. Because that, that looks like a boss. But they never really give you what you want. But they never really give you what you want. Right. Right. I know? I know? I think that's, that's part of. I think that's, that's part of. I know, they hold [CROSSTALK] I know, they hold [CROSSTALK] And then coming into like, there's Something bad going on and they give you a little snippet of action? And then coming into like, there's Something bad going on and they give you a little snippet of action? Right. Right. And to me that's how you successfully make a miniseries. And to me that's how you successfully make a miniseries. You make amazing cliff hangers that seem almost insurmountable. You make amazing cliff hangers that seem almost insurmountable. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And you just keep going along, just like chapters in a book. And you just keep going along, just like chapters in a book. Right. Right. And that's, I thought it was inspiring and it was amazing. And that's, I thought it was inspiring and it was amazing. And man, they are gonna have their hands full. And man, they are gonna have their hands full. Trying to, you know, eclipse what they were able to do in season one. Trying to, you know, eclipse what they were able to do in season one. Right. Right. Yes, I, I think, seeing the finish line even before you know what's going on. Yes, I, I think, seeing the finish line even before you know what's going on. Right. Right. In the first sea, first season is really helpful too and I think it's something that A lot of TV shows suffer from it. In the first sea, first season is really helpful too and I think it's something that A lot of TV shows suffer from it. It's like Episodic Fatigue. It's like Episodic Fatigue. Right. Right. You know after a while Lost, it's like okay, where's this really going? You know after a while Lost, it's like okay, where's this really going? Right. Right. Or Weeds it's like man, this is crazy, this is never gonna get wrapped up. Or Weeds it's like man, this is crazy, this is never gonna get wrapped up. The fact that you know after, you know eight hours the stories going to be over. The fact that you know after, you know eight hours the stories going to be over. And you'll figure out what's going on. And you'll figure out what's going on. It's. It's. It's kinda nice. It's kinda nice. It is kinda nice, I just aww man. It is kinda nice, I just aww man. I you know, I just Some things I get really, really into, and this was just one of them, and I, am I upset that I was so late to the party? I you know, I just Some things I get really, really into, and this was just one of them, and I, am I upset that I was so late to the party? Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. That's why it's all online. That's why it's all online. You can just binge watch it. You can just binge watch it. It, it was a thing of beauty, binge watching that show, for sure. It, it was a thing of beauty, binge watching that show, for sure. The next season's gonna be about the secret occult history of the United States transportation system. The next season's gonna be about the secret occult history of the United States transportation system. Great. Great. You got me hooked. You got me hooked. What the hell does that mean? What the hell does that mean? Is there gonna be like haunted railroads? Is there gonna be like haunted railroads? Is there gonna be like- Is there gonna be like- Yeah. Yeah. Route 66, maybe. Route 66, maybe. That's, you know, that's just what I'm thinking. That's, you know, that's just what I'm thinking. All right. All right. I threw, I threw in my favorite frame from the from the series under the the show. I threw, I threw in my favorite frame from the from the series under the the show. The topic there if you want to show up. The topic there if you want to show up. Just gonna be. Just gonna be. It's just gonna be. It's just gonna be. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Our buddy, Reggie LaDeux. Our buddy, Reggie LaDeux. Naked guy. Naked guy. Just freaking people out [LAUGH]. Just freaking people out [LAUGH]. Left and right, man. Left and right, man. Oh. Oh. When I saw that I just. When I saw that I just. I know, right? I know, right? Yeah. Yeah. Chills, right? Chills, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I look like in the morning. That's what I look like in the morning. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Before I take a shower. Before I take a shower. You've got random stuff written on your body. You've got random stuff written on your body. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] From last night. From last night. That's probably what you look like. That's probably what you look like. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] This weekend. This weekend. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah that's, that's exactly right. Yeah that's, that's exactly right. My good old buddy Reggie Ledoux. My good old buddy Reggie Ledoux. Yeah. Yeah. Alright no more True Detective stuff I guess we can have like a subreddit chat about it if you want. Alright no more True Detective stuff I guess we can have like a subreddit chat about it if you want. Oh, check this out though. Oh, check this out though. oh. oh. I have seen the first True Detective tatoo. I have seen the first True Detective tatoo. So sick. So sick. It's of the weird stick figure carcoza thing. It's of the weird stick figure carcoza thing. [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE]. Yeah. Yeah. Man that is way too soon to get antagonistic. Man that is way too soon to get antagonistic. Is it. Is it. Yeah, way to soon, right. Yeah, way to soon, right. It's like. It's like. Where's the second season of snugg ? Where's the second season of snugg ? ? ? Exhale a little bit. Exhale a little bit. yeah,its, you know, I just love obsessing over stuff like this. yeah,its, you know, I just love obsessing over stuff like this. Right, don't you, doesn't it just like do something to you. Right, don't you, doesn't it just like do something to you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like after you see like. It's like after you see like. You know, a movie where you're just not sure you get exactly what happened. You know, a movie where you're just not sure you get exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah. I, I'm actually [LAUGH] glad that you brought that up, because you know, I think the last thing that you really got obsessed about was this book,The Giver, and you were late on that too. I, I'm actually [LAUGH] glad that you brought that up, because you know, I think the last thing that you really got obsessed about was this book,The Giver, and you were late on that too. [LAUGH] You were, I don't know, maybe like 13, 14 years late. [LAUGH] You were, I don't know, maybe like 13, 14 years late. No big deal. No big deal. [LAUGH] I was about a baker's dozen years late [LAUGH] I was about a baker's dozen years late Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe how late, like. I can't believe how late, like. On, on, The Giver. On, on, The Giver. So, so this fool comes in to the podcast studio. So, so this fool comes in to the podcast studio. This was when we were back in the old Audio One. This was when we were back in the old Audio One. And you were like, dude! And you were like, dude! Have you seen this book, The Giver. Have you seen this book, The Giver. Or read it yeah. Or read it yeah. Read it. Read it. It's basically like saying have you read this book The Bernstein Bears. It's basically like saying have you read this book The Bernstein Bears. Or no it's like have you read this book Fahrenheit 451 or Slaughterhouse Five. Or no it's like have you read this book Fahrenheit 451 or Slaughterhouse Five. I actually had to read that for school. I actually had to read that for school. It was part of my required reading when i. It was part of my required reading when i. Fahrenheit? Fahrenheit? No, no, no, The Giver in like seventh grade, but it's completely not a book for seventh graders and I think that's why it's, it's better to read as an adult. No, no, no, The Giver in like seventh grade, but it's completely not a book for seventh graders and I think that's why it's, it's better to read as an adult. I wish I could have gotten it. I wish I could have gotten it. Yeah i think you get more out of it reading it as an adult, but I do think it's an important piece of literature for young people, for sure. Yeah i think you get more out of it reading it as an adult, but I do think it's an important piece of literature for young people, for sure. Right, if you have the patience to actually sit [INAUDIBLE] Right, if you have the patience to actually sit [INAUDIBLE] Sure. Sure. But so with regards to, The Giver, the first trailer for the movie, movie Adaptation came out over the weekend. But so with regards to, The Giver, the first trailer for the movie, movie Adaptation came out over the weekend. Did you have a chance to watch that? Did you have a chance to watch that? I did. I did. Let me say this. Let me say this. So wait, before you give us your opinion on it, let's talk about what, The Giver is. So wait, before you give us your opinion on it, let's talk about what, The Giver is. It's a novel by Lois Lowery, and it's sort of preceeded all these current young-adult dystopian movies, if you want to describe it as that. It's a novel by Lois Lowery, and it's sort of preceeded all these current young-adult dystopian movies, if you want to describe it as that. Like your Hunger Games, your Diversionses. Like your Hunger Games, your Diversionses. Yeah, sort of Battle Royale-ish type of thing, but it's not violent at all, so. Yeah, sort of Battle Royale-ish type of thing, but it's not violent at all, so. The story takes place in the near future. The story takes place in the near future. And, it's a book about a 12 year old kid basically learning how to function in a very rigid society. And, it's a book about a 12 year old kid basically learning how to function in a very rigid society. Is it the near future? Is it the near future? Well I think so. Well I think so. I think in the, I think in the book. I think in the, I think in the book. It's not like in a parallel universe. It's not like in a parallel universe. But I think in the book, in we also have to discuss out loud right now if we give away the book. But I think in the book, in we also have to discuss out loud right now if we give away the book. No, no. No, no. A lot of the articles online did and I don't want to be a part of that because i want a really nice surprise. A lot of the articles online did and I don't want to be a part of that because i want a really nice surprise. Okay, [INAUDIBLE] totally ruined the book for me. Okay, [INAUDIBLE] totally ruined the book for me. And the be, the best part. And the be, the best part. There's something that happened in the book that I'm kinda confused about how they are going to adapt that into the movie. There's something that happened in the book that I'm kinda confused about how they are going to adapt that into the movie. Especially having seen the trailer Especially having seen the trailer Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. That's so esoteric but. That's so esoteric but. Like it does probably, exist sometime in the future. Like it does probably, exist sometime in the future. I don't know if it's near or far. I don't know if it's near or far. Sure. Sure. But, yeah. But, yeah. I obsess over chronolog, chronologic details. I obsess over chronolog, chronologic details. Yeah, it's a future where not necessarily the government, but everything in society is very basically put out for you. Yeah, it's a future where not necessarily the government, but everything in society is very basically put out for you. Right. Right. They determine what you're gonna do in life, in terms of occupation. They determine what you're gonna do in life, in terms of occupation. how. how. It's like a form of communism [INAUDIBLE] It's like a form of communism [INAUDIBLE] How your family is. How your family is. But, everyone excepts it. But, everyone excepts it. And that's all you can say about it, right? And that's all you can say about it, right? And it's about this 12 year old kid who learns what his job is going to be. And it's about this 12 year old kid who learns what his job is going to be. Right, and he and so, so, so Jeff Bridges. Right, and he and so, so, so Jeff Bridges. Yeah, it's a really good cast. Yeah, it's a really good cast. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even if whatever you want to say about the trailer. I mean, even if whatever you want to say about the trailer. The cast is great. The cast is great. It's Jeff Bridges as the giver, as the receiver. It's Jeff Bridges as the giver, as the receiver. No, no. No, no. The giver. The giver. The giver. The giver. Yeah, the giver. Yeah, the giver. You got Meryl Streep who is the head of the society. You got Meryl Streep who is the head of the society. Right. Right. You have Taylor Swift who makes an appearance as the previous receiver. You have Taylor Swift who makes an appearance as the previous receiver. And then the giver is a kid named. And then the giver is a kid named. The receiver you mean. The receiver you mean. I'm sorry, the receiver is Brenton Thwaites. I'm sorry, the receiver is Brenton Thwaites. Right, its got to be a kid. Right, its got to be a kid. Some random kid, I think that he's from soap operas. Some random kid, I think that he's from soap operas. And it's looks like Katie Holmes is in this movie also. And it's looks like Katie Holmes is in this movie also. Katie Holmes and I've been the Alexandra Scarsguard as the receiver's parents. Katie Holmes and I've been the Alexandra Scarsguard as the receiver's parents. Right so. Right so. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna give anything away. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna give anything away. I think just judging by the trailer, they do seem to take a lot of liberty in manipulating the story. I think just judging by the trailer, they do seem to take a lot of liberty in manipulating the story. It just seems that that's what's happening. It just seems that that's what's happening. I, I, I don't know. I, I, I don't know. Are, do you agree? Are, do you agree? Because. Because. Yeah. Yeah. I, the book is relatively fresh in my mind. I, the book is relatively fresh in my mind. Well, okay, though clearly what they're trying to do with the book is to make it appealing to young kids by putting a lot of action and sight sequences in it. Well, okay, though clearly what they're trying to do with the book is to make it appealing to young kids by putting a lot of action and sight sequences in it. But that's totally not. But that's totally not. I mean talk about heavy rain. I mean talk about heavy rain. That's completely not what The Giver is about. That's completely not what The Giver is about. The Giver has a very slow, meandering pace and a lot of the greatest scenes in the book are just dialogue at a kitchen table like you just saw in the trailer, right? The Giver has a very slow, meandering pace and a lot of the greatest scenes in the book are just dialogue at a kitchen table like you just saw in the trailer, right? I think that's part of the intensity and the drama is. I think that's part of the intensity and the drama is. It's like that quiet brooding. It's like that quiet brooding. Right. Right. It's exaggerated by the slow pacing of the book This is cool, though, I mean we just got to the part of the trailer that shows the screenshot of the Giver's, like, sort of facility. It's exaggerated by the slow pacing of the book This is cool, though, I mean we just got to the part of the trailer that shows the screenshot of the Giver's, like, sort of facility. Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly how I pictured it in my head. And that's exactly how I pictured it in my head. Sure. Sure. That's weird when it happens like that. That's weird when it happens like that. Right. Right. You know, it just has a bunch of books in sort of a library setting, it's so good. You know, it just has a bunch of books in sort of a library setting, it's so good. Right. Right. But, I don't know, what were your main complaints with the trailer. But, I don't know, what were your main complaints with the trailer. I mean I don't really have any complaints because I don't think you can really judge trailers. I mean I don't really have any complaints because I don't think you can really judge trailers. You know, that, I worry that it's being like too Hunger Gamesy. You know, that, I worry that it's being like too Hunger Gamesy. Yeah. Yeah. Which for me is a big, worry considering. Which for me is a big, worry considering. To Giver is such a better piece of literature than all that other crap. To Giver is such a better piece of literature than all that other crap. So I worry about that and I am anxious about that, but it's not gonna stop me from seeing it. So I worry about that and I am anxious about that, but it's not gonna stop me from seeing it. I mean the casts, I am sold on the cast, I just worry like cause you know, everyone who knows the story of the giver knows that one detail. I mean the casts, I am sold on the cast, I just worry like cause you know, everyone who knows the story of the giver knows that one detail. Right. Right. That one little detail that changes the book. That one little detail that changes the book. Forever changes everything, and I wonder how they're gonna do it. Forever changes everything, and I wonder how they're gonna do it. And for me, the movie adaptation will live or die by how it handles. And for me, the movie adaptation will live or die by how it handles. [CROSSTALK] Right. [CROSSTALK] Right. that one detail. that one detail. I think I know how they're gonna do it, and it's different from the trailer, but eventually it will come out to probably the way that you were imagining the movie to be. I think I know how they're gonna do it, and it's different from the trailer, but eventually it will come out to probably the way that you were imagining the movie to be. Okay. Okay. I think what I'm really exited about is, like, hope. I think what I'm really exited about is, like, hope. I'm hoping that it'll be more like Gattaca and less like Hunger Games. I'm hoping that it'll be more like Gattaca and less like Hunger Games. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. Like, sort of that weird future where there is action involved sometimes. Like, sort of that weird future where there is action involved sometimes. I mean, you can know they're trying to make it sexy by having a love sequence in there. I mean, you can know they're trying to make it sexy by having a love sequence in there. Sure. Sure. There's a kissing scene. There's a kissing scene. Sure. Sure. Between him and another girl. Between him and another girl. But there was nothing like that in the book. But there was nothing like that in the book. Right. Right. Obviously, they have to sex it up a little bit. Obviously, they have to sex it up a little bit. So all that stuff aside, Meryl frickin Streep. So all that stuff aside, Meryl frickin Streep. I mean, how can this be bad with her and Jeff Daniels. I mean, how can this be bad with her and Jeff Daniels. I'm into her. I'm into her. You know, she's brilliant. You know, she's brilliant. Jeff Bridges is, brilliant. Jeff Bridges is, brilliant. Jeff Bridges. Jeff Bridges. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we're in good hands. So we're in good hands. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited about it. I'm excited about it. Find out if your childhood is ruined this summer. Find out if your childhood is ruined this summer. Yeah. Yeah. What, what childhood books were ruined by movie adaptations for you? What, what childhood books were ruined by movie adaptations for you? Did you watch Enders Game? Did you watch Enders Game? No. No. I heard really terrible stuff about that. I heard really terrible stuff about that. Really bad. Really bad. Yeah. Yeah. I did watch Perks of Being a Wallflower, though. I did watch Perks of Being a Wallflower, though. It was okay. It was okay. I heard that was okay. I heard that was okay. I read that when I was a kid. I read that when I was a kid. Not that I was really hoping for anything special with that movie anyway. Not that I was really hoping for anything special with that movie anyway. Sure, sure. Sure, sure. It's a, it's tough, man. It's a, it's tough, man. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. Yeah. Yeah. And now is about that time where, like, it's our childhood that they're exploiting, right? And now is about that time where, like, it's our childhood that they're exploiting, right? Right. Right. Like, all the books that we grew up reading. Like, all the books that we grew up reading. Yeah, which is both good and bad. Yeah, which is both good and bad. Sure. Sure. You know? You know? I like seeing that stuff. I like seeing that stuff. But when they don't do it well. But when they don't do it well. Actually I wanted to have a, I want to have a discussion about what I should do with my TV. Actually I wanted to have a, I want to have a discussion about what I should do with my TV. So, I'm not even going to talk about a story now. So, I'm not even going to talk about a story now. Okay. Okay. I should have brought this up at the beginning. I should have brought this up at the beginning. No, it's fine. No, it's fine. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. But, so it's come time for me to basically buy a digital tuner. But, so it's come time for me to basically buy a digital tuner. I decided to stop you know, considering the idea that I could get cable some day. I decided to stop you know, considering the idea that I could get cable some day. And just you know, cut the cord completely, but I still wanna get broadcast And just you know, cut the cord completely, but I still wanna get broadcast [MUSIC] [MUSIC] Hey, what's up everyone it's Monday, March 24th 2014 it's the 404 show on CNET. Hey, what's up everyone it's Monday, March 24th 2014 it's the 404 show on CNET. I'm Jeff Bacalar. I'm Jeff Bacalar. I'm Justin Nyu. I'm Justin Nyu. I'm Mario Nunies. I'm Mario Nunies. Hey, what's up everyone. Hey, what's up everyone. Hope you're having a fantastic Monday morning. Hope you're having a fantastic Monday morning. Although it's Monday how could it be that awesome. Although it's Monday how could it be that awesome. I mean, for you it should be awesome. I mean, for you it should be awesome. Not that awesome. Not that awesome. [LAUGH] Everybody please join me in wishing Jeff Bachler a Happy Birthday today. [LAUGH] Everybody please join me in wishing Jeff Bachler a Happy Birthday today. [NOISE] which I actually wold not have known without the help of Facebook. [NOISE] which I actually wold not have known without the help of Facebook. So thank you Facebook as well. So thank you Facebook as well. Thank you, Facebook. Thank you, Facebook. I'm sure you're never going to know that. I'm sure you're never going to know that. And, I apologize for not knowing your birthday. And, I apologize for not knowing your birthday. It's alright. It's alright. I, I know yours is you know, January 17th, [LAUGH]. I, I know yours is you know, January 17th, [LAUGH]. You knew that because you just looked it up. You knew that because you just looked it up. No. No. Right now. Right now. I just have a like a Rainman thing with birthdays. I just have a like a Rainman thing with birthdays. Yeah. Yeah. No one has that but you. No one has that but you. That's just me. That's just me. But, regardless, Happy birthday, man. But, regardless, Happy birthday, man. Thanks. Thanks. 32 years old today. 32 years old today. So, meaningless, this one. So, meaningless, this one. Not going to celebrate another one for eight years. Not going to celebrate another one for eight years. I mean, exactly. I mean, exactly. Like it just doesn't mean anything. Like it just doesn't mean anything. Thirty two. Thirty two. Who cares? Who cares? It means something. It means something. Who cares? Who cares? It shows you who your real friends are on Facebook. It shows you who your real friends are on Facebook. [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. And if nothing else, that's what we can thank this one day a year for. And if nothing else, that's what we can thank this one day a year for. I'm looking at your page here, man. I'm looking at your page here, man. You got some good likes. You got some good likes. [LAUGH] You got some really. [LAUGH] You got some really. Why? Why? Sweet birthday messages. Sweet birthday messages. Want me to ready all of them to you right now? Want me to ready all of them to you right now? No. No. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. [LAUGH] Yeah, dog. [LAUGH] Yeah, dog. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] So. So. They're like the most meaningful messages I've ever seen. They're like the most meaningful messages I've ever seen. So, so, so we could. So, so, so we could. Spend a, a minute or two talking about. Spend a, a minute or two talking about. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Like, the sad existence of, like, robot wishes, robot birthday wishes. Like, the sad existence of, like, robot wishes, robot birthday wishes. Right. Right. There's something very awkward and eerie about the whole thing. There's something very awkward and eerie about the whole thing. Mm-hm, message board's sending you bur, I like birthday messages and things like that. Mm-hm, message board's sending you bur, I like birthday messages and things like that. You know, you get, like, a Google Now alert. You know, you get, like, a Google Now alert. Yeah. Yeah. Google's wishing, it's just. Google's wishing, it's just. I got one from Chilli's. I got one from Chilli's. Well, my birthday in January, Well, my birthday in January, [LAUGH] That is truly sad. [LAUGH] That is truly sad. Because I had probably filled out a card Because I had probably filled out a card Yeah, right. Yeah, right. 20 years ago about my birthday. 20 years ago about my birthday. And now. And now. So I get it, like at some point, one of these places was like hey, I got a great, like we gotta automate happy birthday greetings to people. So I get it, like at some point, one of these places was like hey, I got a great, like we gotta automate happy birthday greetings to people. Yeah. Yeah. And, over a long enough period of time, they become so disingenuous that they almost. And, over a long enough period of time, they become so disingenuous that they almost. Take away any meaning you would have for your own birthday. Take away any meaning you would have for your own birthday. Wait, we're talking about the robot wishes or your friends' wishes? Wait, we're talking about the robot wishes or your friends' wishes? Robot wishes. Robot wishes. Even like the habitual sort of like, you know, Pavlovian response to just doing that. Even like the habitual sort of like, you know, Pavlovian response to just doing that. Right. Right. I mean like, don't get me wrong, and I don't want to act like, look there's plenty of people Who wish me a happy birthday I mean like, don't get me wrong, and I don't want to act like, look there's plenty of people Who wish me a happy birthday I couldn't be with you in person otherwise I couldn't be with you in person otherwise That's cool those people I really like and know, but it does feel like the majority of those wishes are from people that I, A, don't know straight up, B, I've not seen in years, and years and years and years. That's cool those people I really like and know, but it does feel like the majority of those wishes are from people that I, A, don't know straight up, B, I've not seen in years, and years and years and years. And, likely have forgotten about. And, likely have forgotten about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if they were really your friends, they would send you gifts. I mean, if they were really your friends, they would send you gifts. Nah, I'm not asking for gifts man, cuz I aint get **** from you. Nah, I'm not asking for gifts man, cuz I aint get **** from you. No, but I'm just saying. No, but I'm just saying. I, yeah like it. I, yeah like it. How do you feel about it? How do you feel about it? Cuz to me I'm very open with discussing the emotional impact of disingenuous Facebook birthday wishes. Cuz to me I'm very open with discussing the emotional impact of disingenuous Facebook birthday wishes. Well it's not. Well it's not. Okay. Okay. So yeah. So yeah. I feel like it's supposed to elicit some kind of emotion in you that. I feel like it's supposed to elicit some kind of emotion in you that. You know? You know? Everyone gives that. Everyone gives that. At the end of the day they put out, like, the, thank you, everyone. At the end of the day they put out, like, the, thank you, everyone. Right. Right. For your birthday wishes. For your birthday wishes. I feel so loved. I feel so loved. Right. Right. But now it's gotten to a point where it's. But now it's gotten to a point where it's. So meaningless that it doesn't really release and Dopamine at all. So meaningless that it doesn't really release and Dopamine at all. Right. Right. Like. Like. Your body's developed an immunity to it. Your body's developed an immunity to it. Right, like you ignore it so much that, you just don't get any gratification, it's just not enough. Right, like you ignore it so much that, you just don't get any gratification, it's just not enough. I don't care how many funny gifts he posts up. I don't care how many funny gifts he posts up. Cuz now, right exactly cause now all it is, is me get, having to delete 100 Facebook messages. Cuz now, right exactly cause now all it is, is me get, having to delete 100 Facebook messages. Whoa, whoa wait a minute. Whoa, whoa wait a minute. You delete them from your wall? You delete them from your wall? No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. The notification that somebody wrote only our wall. The notification that somebody wrote only our wall. Oh. Oh. You don't even like the comments. You don't even like the comments. [LAUGH] Like, some people like every single birthday wish on their Facebook wall. [LAUGH] Like, some people like every single birthday wish on their Facebook wall. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Like I said, I'm not unappreciative. Like I said, I'm not unappreciative. Yeah. Yeah. I just. I just. I don't know Mario, are you with me man? I don't know Mario, are you with me man? Yeah definitely. Yeah definitely. Like so I have a trick. Like so I have a trick. I, I turned off all of. I, I turned off all of. I make it so no one can post on my wall. I make it so no one can post on my wall. Nice. Nice. And then ah,on my birthday I just put like one kind of status and then everyone comments on that one thing. And then ah,on my birthday I just put like one kind of status and then everyone comments on that one thing. Awww. Awww. So that just hides it all. So that just hides it all. That's super-organized. That's super-organized. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You've got it all figured out, huh. You've got it all figured out, huh. Don't spam up my facebook page, man. Don't spam up my facebook page, man. But then no one can post on your wall though. But then no one can post on your wall though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't need people to post on my wall. I don't need people to post on my wall. Ever. Ever. You know, never, never. You know, never, never. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Hey, that's, yeah, that's pretty intense. Hey, that's, yeah, that's pretty intense. Yeah, I like that I, I think I should pager it's all your own stuff on their wall which is fine cuz i it's usually like inside jokes that people post up on your wall anyway. Yeah, I like that I, I think I should pager it's all your own stuff on their wall which is fine cuz i it's usually like inside jokes that people post up on your wall anyway. Yeah. Yeah. And they can comment on my posts if they want to. And they can comment on my posts if they want to. I mean, or just like send me a personal message, you know [CROSSTALK] I don't need it to be bubbly [CROSSTALK] I mean, or just like send me a personal message, you know [CROSSTALK] I don't need it to be bubbly [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. You know? You know? Right. Right. Cuz it's too easy to send a Facebook thing. Cuz it's too easy to send a Facebook thing. For sure. For sure. Right. Right. I don't even do that anymore for other people [CROSSTALK] I don't even do that anymore for other people [CROSSTALK] Yeah, I don't either. Yeah, I don't either. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday. I used to say to Everybody I knew. I used to say to Everybody I knew. Yeah. Yeah. But now I just don't even care. But now I just don't even care. Cuz honestly, even on my birthday, I'm not like, oh man, Jeff didn't put a birthday wish on my wall. Cuz honestly, even on my birthday, I'm not like, oh man, Jeff didn't put a birthday wish on my wall. Right, exactly. Right, exactly. Like, it's not like, a very hurtful thing. Like, it's not like, a very hurtful thing. No one cares either way. No one cares either way. That, and that's the point that I'm trying to make, is that, it's just. That, and that's the point that I'm trying to make, is that, it's just. It's so overkill, over the last. It's so overkill, over the last. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it was special, like, the first time, I think. Like, it was special, like, the first time, I think. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. But then after, over and over, it just loses and you get desensitized. But then after, over and over, it just loses and you get desensitized. Right. Right. And it's just like, now, it's almost like a chore. And it's just like, now, it's almost like a chore. Yeah. Yeah. For some people, it does matter, though. For some people, it does matter, though. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess. I think, like, when you reach a certain point, like, yeah, you have too many friends, you don't give a **** anymore. I think, like, when you reach a certain point, like, yeah, you have too many friends, you don't give a **** anymore. But for people like our parents, Stuff like that is a big indicator of how much people like you or dislike you. But for people like our parents, Stuff like that is a big indicator of how much people like you or dislike you. I guess so. I guess so. Right, I mean, I don't know if your parents done [INAUDIBLE]. Right, I mean, I don't know if your parents done [INAUDIBLE]. Well, like would it be weird if I just got like zero today? Well, like would it be weird if I just got like zero today? Yeah, that'll be a bummer. Yeah, that'll be a bummer. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. And it was publicly on display and just. And it was publicly on display and just. Birthday. Birthday. Right. Right. But no one cares. But no one cares. Yeah. Yeah. That would, kinda be awesome. That would, kinda be awesome. That would suck. That would suck. I'm almost wishing for that, for 33. I'm almost wishing for that, for 33. Next year I will go through each of your friends. Next year I will go through each of your friends. And delete them. And delete them. And tell them all. And tell them all. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Hey, this is what Jeff really wants. Hey, this is what Jeff really wants. Like I'm trying to do a social experiment here. Like I'm trying to do a social experiment here. Play along. Play along. Man, that'd be, that'd be special. Man, that'd be, that'd be special. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, it wasn't all bad. Well, look, it wasn't all bad. I finally binge watched. I finally binge watched. True detective. True detective. That's how you spent your birthday? That's how you spent your birthday? Well, my birthday's today. Well, my birthday's today. Yeah. Yeah. We've established that. We've established that. huh. huh. I was in Las Vegas for some of the weekend, came back, binge watched True Detective. I was in Las Vegas for some of the weekend, came back, binge watched True Detective. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Nice. Nice. I'm in love with the show. I'm in love with the show. I don't wanna, I know you guys talked about maybe while I was gone. I don't wanna, I know you guys talked about maybe while I was gone. We talked about it a little bit, I mean we're not gonna talk about the ending. We talked about it a little bit, I mean we're not gonna talk about the ending. Of course not. Of course not. Well, ya'll haven't seen the last one. Well, ya'll haven't seen the last one. Yeah, haven't seen the last one. Yeah, haven't seen the last one. Which like, almost should be illegal cuz you've seen all it except [CROSSTALK] Which like, almost should be illegal cuz you've seen all it except [CROSSTALK] I don't know how you've been able to harness that self-control when I watched the last episode. I don't know how you've been able to harness that self-control when I watched the last episode. I always want to leave, cuz, I binge-watched, like, up to six. I always want to leave, cuz, I binge-watched, like, up to six. Yeah. Yeah. And then I was okay, I need to leave some so I have something to watch. And then I was okay, I need to leave some so I have something to watch. Spill. Spill. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah,yeah,yeah. Yeah,yeah,yeah. But I'm just going to watch the last one. But I'm just going to watch the last one. Stockpiling. Stockpiling. Yeah. Yeah. There's just a few things I just want to say real quick about it. There's just a few things I just want to say real quick about it. I know we talked a little bit about it when Sadie was here from TV Guide. I know we talked a little bit about it when Sadie was here from TV Guide. She really dug the show right? She really dug the show right? She did. She did. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone loved it. Everyone loved it. I feel like if you don't like this show, I don't know. I feel like if you don't like this show, I don't know. I don't know if I can trust you anymore. I don't know if I can trust you anymore. Number one, that episode four. Number one, that episode four. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Was like some of the greatest TV I've ever seen. Was like some of the greatest TV I've ever seen. Okay. Okay. Wait, which episode was that? Wait, which episode was that? I watched all of them. I watched all of them. He infiltrates Devil's Crusaders. He infiltrates Devil's Crusaders. Oh right, right, right. Oh right, right, right. After the, the projects, right. After the, the projects, right. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And the last thing I'll say about it is that I kinda wish True Detective was a video game. And the last thing I'll say about it is that I kinda wish True Detective was a video game. Mm-hm, there's something so like intoxicating about the atmosphere and creepy, right? Mm-hm, there's something so like intoxicating about the atmosphere and creepy, right? With all the craftwork and the sticks, like all that stuff. With all the craftwork and the sticks, like all that stuff. Right. Right. It lends itself really well, I think, in my opinion, to a video game. It lends itself really well, I think, in my opinion, to a video game. And the way they tell stories in video games,I think, I think True Detective. And the way they tell stories in video games,I think, I think True Detective. The show would be better than the video game, but I'm still in the back of my head, like while I was watching this was kinda of like, man, they've got enough villains and enough sort of like. The show would be better than the video game, but I'm still in the back of my head, like while I was watching this was kinda of like, man, they've got enough villains and enough sort of like. Yeah. Yeah. Scenes where this would have been. Scenes where this would have been. One of the best narrative video games ever. One of the best narrative video games ever. But it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be an actiony video game, because there's very few action sequences. But it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be an actiony video game, because there's very few action sequences. Right, it would be slow. Right, it would be slow. It'd be slow. It'd be slow. It would be like that game Heavy Rain that you used to play. It would be like that game Heavy Rain that you used to play. See, and then, then. See, and then, then. It was like a crime-solving, sort of thriller, dialogue based video game. It was like a crime-solving, sort of thriller, dialogue based video game. Right, sure. Right, sure. But then I got to thinking about that, and I was like, oh my god, I don't want that You don't? But then I got to thinking about that, and I was like, oh my god, I don't want that You don't? No, because number one, Heavy Ram was good but Beyond I thought was terrible so I don't want that, I want like my cake and I want to eat it too. No, because number one, Heavy Ram was good but Beyond I thought was terrible so I don't want that, I want like my cake and I want to eat it too. I want some sort of hybrid where. I want some sort of hybrid where. Like a Resident Evil type thing? Like a Resident Evil type thing? Like with more strategy? Like with more strategy? Yeah, maybe, and maybe more narrative and sort of like. Yeah, maybe, and maybe more narrative and sort of like. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I feel like that's what they're trying to do with those David Cage games like Heavy Rain and Beyond. You know, and I feel like that's what they're trying to do with those David Cage games like Heavy Rain and Beyond. But man, this, it's just, there was something so perfect about it. But man, this, it's just, there was something so perfect about it. Yeah. Yeah. It, and like it was 8 hours. It, and like it was 8 hours. That's a perfect time for a good video game. That's a perfect time for a good video game. It would have been something special. It would have been something special. Well the, the show isn't over yet. Well the, the show isn't over yet. So, it can't be a video game just yet because even we don't even know what's going to be happening. So, it can't be a video game just yet because even we don't even know what's going to be happening. Did you hear over the weekend they announced that Brad Pitt may be one of the actors involved in the second season? Did you hear over the weekend they announced that Brad Pitt may be one of the actors involved in the second season? I mean, like who, are you upset with that? I mean, like who, are you upset with that? No, not at all cuz it's basically gonna be TV out of Patient of 7. No, not at all cuz it's basically gonna be TV out of Patient of 7. Right. Right. And he's already played that role really well. And he's already played that role really well. Exactly. Exactly. I mean as long as he's not wearing like a scarf and his hair blowing i'm fine. I mean as long as he's not wearing like a scarf and his hair blowing i'm fine. Yeah. Yeah. Could you imagine if it was Brad Pitt and Steve Buchevy? Could you imagine if it was Brad Pitt and Steve Buchevy? Aw! Aw! Don't even get me started. Don't even get me started. Who, who would be the partner. Who, who would be the partner. Like who would be his Marty? Like who would be his Marty? Buchevy? Buchevy? Maybe. Maybe. Well. Well. What if it's Christopher Walken? What if it's Christopher Walken? No. No. He, he. He, he. That would be. That would be. Unfortunately,he would be, he could have a cameo. Unfortunately,he would be, he could have a cameo. But he, unfortunately he is too old for the part. But he, unfortunately he is too old for the part. Yeah. Yeah. But man, I really just, there's something. But man, I really just, there's something. I fell in love with that whole thing. I fell in love with that whole thing. And you know, the characters are so twisted, and so scary. And you know, the characters are so twisted, and so scary. Yeah. Yeah. it's, yeah. it's, yeah. I just, I know I'm late to the party, but oh my god. I just, I know I'm late to the party, but oh my god. Yeah, it's super creepy. Yeah, it's super creepy. It's great. It's great. Make flowers on me. Make flowers on me. Oh, man! Oh, man! [LAUGH] [LAUGH] That won't mean anything to you unless you watch it, but. That won't mean anything to you unless you watch it, but. It's. It's. Oh boy. Oh boy. Yeah, and you know what I think the best part of that show was, was the art direction. Yeah, and you know what I think the best part of that show was, was the art direction. Yeah, with all the Carcoza stuff. Yeah, with all the Carcoza stuff. The Carcoza stuff. The Carcoza stuff. The stick things. The stick things. The really grimy situations they find themselves in, in these like, you know, southern Louisiana. The really grimy situations they find themselves in, in these like, you know, southern Louisiana. Of core, I mean, let's be honest, they're [INAUDIBLE] holes where some of these. Of core, I mean, let's be honest, they're [INAUDIBLE] holes where some of these. Right. Right. Play, scenes take place. Play, scenes take place. Really good stuff. Really good stuff. And I know Ariell hasn't seen episode eight. And I know Ariell hasn't seen episode eight. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. But that's some of the best, you know, art, art direction in the entire season. But that's some of the best, you know, art, art direction in the entire season. Yeah, there was a lot of weird, unexplained stuff in the show, too. Yeah, there was a lot of weird, unexplained stuff in the show, too. I guess. I guess. There's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff. I, I don't want to go over it. I, I don't want to go over it. That, like, remains unanswered for the most part. That, like, remains unanswered for the most part. Right. Right. But that's fine. But that's fine. And I get it. And I get it. And the, the writer and. And the, the writer and. Creator, he, I've seen a few interviews with him since it all transpired and. Creator, he, I've seen a few interviews with him since it all transpired and. Right. Right. He's, I feel like he, half of him likes the mystery that he was able to create and half of him's just like eh, I didn't tie anything up. He's, I feel like he, half of him likes the mystery that he was able to create and half of him's just like eh, I didn't tie anything up. Yeah, a lot of the stuff is like, well we left it out but we didn't catch anything that we're not gonna [CROSSTALK]. Yeah, a lot of the stuff is like, well we left it out but we didn't catch anything that we're not gonna [CROSSTALK]. And I think that's kind of cool because I think a lot of, like, you know, I get it. And I think that's kind of cool because I think a lot of, like, you know, I get it. Like some people are obsessed with the universes. Like some people are obsessed with the universes. Right. Right. They create. They create. Right, right, right. Right, right, right. And like there's a lot of mythology that people just love to dive into. And like there's a lot of mythology that people just love to dive into. Yeah. Yeah. But a part of him is just like. But a part of him is just like. Man its okay if there's not all the answers. Man its okay if there's not all the answers. Right. Right. And I like that. And I like that. People, I, I like how people come up with their own theories for it but then there's never any answer to questions, and people had the five horseman theory People, I, I like how people come up with their own theories for it but then there's never any answer to questions, and people had the five horseman theory Sure. Sure. Right, right and the whole who is, whats the yellow king really? Right, right and the whole who is, whats the yellow king really? Like what happened to his daughter, and why was she having those dolls set up like that? Like what happened to his daughter, and why was she having those dolls set up like that? Right, right. Right, right. Here's one of the craziest unanswered questions from, from the last season that I didn't even see, but a really, really clever Redditor actually spotted it. Here's one of the craziest unanswered questions from, from the last season that I didn't even see, but a really, really clever Redditor actually spotted it. So, there's a painting, and here's a photo of it, there's a painting above Marty's bed. So, there's a painting, and here's a photo of it, there's a painting above Marty's bed. The home that he shares with his wife. The home that he shares with his wife. That is an exact replica of a larger painting that exists in the hospital where Russ first admits it's Kelly, which is the girl that he saved from that, the dude's compound. That is an exact replica of a larger painting that exists in the hospital where Russ first admits it's Kelly, which is the girl that he saved from that, the dude's compound. Okay. Okay. So here's. So here's. Here's this photo. Here's this photo. This painting. This painting. It's like a bunch of, flowers. It's like a bunch of, flowers. Yeah. Yeah. And then you can see the painting again repeat itself in this hospital. And then you can see the painting again repeat itself in this hospital. And. And. Mm. Mm. And this is the screenshot we're looking at now. And this is the screenshot we're looking at now. See. See. To me that's an Easter egg. To me that's an Easter egg. To me that's just. To me that's just. Something's happening there. Something's happening there. But it doesn't mean anything. But it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. There's clearly. There's clearly. It's, it's clearly deliberate. It's, it's clearly deliberate. Right, of course. Right, of course. But, to me that's just like, the creators just having fun. But, to me that's just like, the creators just having fun. Messing with your head. Messing with your head. And that's the kind of show you can do that with, because it tip toes that line of supernatural, where, you know, things are very strange, and eerie, and occulty. And that's the kind of show you can do that with, because it tip toes that line of supernatural, where, you know, things are very strange, and eerie, and occulty. Something feels off. Something feels off. Yeah, it's sort of like Twin Peaks. Yeah, it's sort of like Twin Peaks. Right. Right. Did you ever watch that show? Did you ever watch that show? Absolutely. Absolutely. Very David Lynchian. Very David Lynchian. Right. Right. And I, that's why I love the show so much and that, and I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised that it had such a huge sort of positive re, reception. And I, that's why I love the show so much and that, and I'm, I'm pleasantly surprised that it had such a huge sort of positive re, reception. Oh, really? Oh, really? You didn't think it was You didn't think it was I, I, I re, you know, I, after I finished episode eight, I'm like man, I can't believe people really like, I can't belie. I, I, I re, you know, I, after I finished episode eight, I'm like man, I can't believe people really like, I can't belie. Like, I understand the critical acclaim because it was brilliant but I'm surprised like. Like, I understand the critical acclaim because it was brilliant but I'm surprised like. It had mainstream success. It had mainstream success. Because it was super screwed up. Because it was super screwed up. That and the first couple episodes don't really do much to explain what the show is really going to be about. That and the first couple episodes don't really do much to explain what the show is really going to be about. They kind of shift timelines and there's two timelines going on at the same time, right? They kind of shift timelines and there's two timelines going on at the same time, right? Right. Right. So, I, I what was it about the first couple episodes where you were like, okay I'm in this for a little while? So, I, I what was it about the first couple episodes where you were like, okay I'm in this for a little while? Well, I was into it right away because. Well, I was into it right away because. Just the, the character, the present day Matt McConaughey. Just the, the character, the present day Matt McConaughey. Right, right. Right, right. I mean, we're, we're, you see what's happening here. I mean, we're, we're, you see what's happening here. We're going down the rabbit hole. We're going down the rabbit hole. Like we're, we only wanna spend a little bit of time. Like we're, we only wanna spend a little bit of time. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. [LAUGH] Yeah. But like. But like. The, just looking into his eyes. The, just looking into his eyes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. While he was being interrogated, I was like, Jesus, this guy's lame is all out there. While he was being interrogated, I was like, Jesus, this guy's lame is all out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first two, episodes were, were relatively slow, but they were compelling and they were very visually, staggering. The first two, episodes were, were relatively slow, but they were compelling and they were very visually, staggering. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And there, then, the end of episode three when they show. And there, then, the end of episode three when they show. That maniac with the machete and the gas mask. That maniac with the machete and the gas mask. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like oh, there we go. I'm like oh, there we go. Right Right Now I know what I'm in for. Now I know what I'm in for. And that's when I felt like it should have been a video game. And that's when I felt like it should have been a video game. Because that, that looks like a boss. Because that, that looks like a boss. But they never really give you what you want. But they never really give you what you want. Right. Right. I know? I know? I think that's, that's part of. I think that's, that's part of. I know, they hold [CROSSTALK] I know, they hold [CROSSTALK] And then coming into like, there's Something bad going on and they give you a little snippet of action? And then coming into like, there's Something bad going on and they give you a little snippet of action? Right. Right. And to me that's how you successfully make a miniseries. And to me that's how you successfully make a miniseries. You make amazing cliff hangers that seem almost insurmountable. You make amazing cliff hangers that seem almost insurmountable. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. And you just keep going along, just like chapters in a book. And you just keep going along, just like chapters in a book. Right. Right. And that's, I thought it was inspiring and it was amazing. And that's, I thought it was inspiring and it was amazing. And man, they are gonna have their hands full. And man, they are gonna have their hands full. Trying to, you know, eclipse what they were able to do in season one. Trying to, you know, eclipse what they were able to do in season one. Right. Right. Yes, I, I think, seeing the finish line even before you know what's going on. Yes, I, I think, seeing the finish line even before you know what's going on. Right. Right. In the first sea, first season is really helpful too and I think it's something that A lot of TV shows suffer from it. In the first sea, first season is really helpful too and I think it's something that A lot of TV shows suffer from it. It's like Episodic Fatigue. It's like Episodic Fatigue. Right. Right. You know after a while Lost, it's like okay, where's this really going? You know after a while Lost, it's like okay, where's this really going? Right. Right. Or Weeds it's like man, this is crazy, this is never gonna get wrapped up. Or Weeds it's like man, this is crazy, this is never gonna get wrapped up. The fact that you know after, you know eight hours the stories going to be over. The fact that you know after, you know eight hours the stories going to be over. And you'll figure out what's going on. And you'll figure out what's going on. It's. It's. It's kinda nice. It's kinda nice. It is kinda nice, I just aww man. It is kinda nice, I just aww man. I you know, I just Some things I get really, really into, and this was just one of them, and I, am I upset that I was so late to the party? I you know, I just Some things I get really, really into, and this was just one of them, and I, am I upset that I was so late to the party? Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. That's why it's all online. That's why it's all online. You can just binge watch it. You can just binge watch it. It, it was a thing of beauty, binge watching that show, for sure. It, it was a thing of beauty, binge watching that show, for sure. The next season's gonna be about the secret occult history of the United States transportation system. The next season's gonna be about the secret occult history of the United States transportation system. Great. Great. You got me hooked. You got me hooked. What the hell does that mean? What the hell does that mean? Is there gonna be like haunted railroads? Is there gonna be like haunted railroads? Is there gonna be like- Is there gonna be like- Yeah. Yeah. Route 66, maybe. Route 66, maybe. That's, you know, that's just what I'm thinking. That's, you know, that's just what I'm thinking. All right. All right. I threw, I threw in my favorite frame from the from the series under the the show. I threw, I threw in my favorite frame from the from the series under the the show. The topic there if you want to show up. The topic there if you want to show up. Just gonna be. Just gonna be. It's just gonna be. It's just gonna be. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Our buddy, Reggie LaDeux. Our buddy, Reggie LaDeux. Naked guy. Naked guy. Just freaking people out [LAUGH]. Just freaking people out [LAUGH]. Left and right, man. Left and right, man. Oh. Oh. When I saw that I just. When I saw that I just. I know, right? I know, right? Yeah. Yeah. Chills, right? Chills, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I look like in the morning. That's what I look like in the morning. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Before I take a shower. Before I take a shower. You've got random stuff written on your body. You've got random stuff written on your body. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] From last night. From last night. That's probably what you look like. That's probably what you look like. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] This weekend. This weekend. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah that's, that's exactly right. Yeah that's, that's exactly right. My good old buddy Reggie Ledoux. My good old buddy Reggie Ledoux. Yeah. Yeah. Alright no more True Detective stuff I guess we can have like a subreddit chat about it if you want. Alright no more True Detective stuff I guess we can have like a subreddit chat about it if you want. Oh, check this out though. Oh, check this out though. oh. oh. I have seen the first True Detective tatoo. I have seen the first True Detective tatoo. So sick. So sick. It's of the weird stick figure carcoza thing. It's of the weird stick figure carcoza thing. [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE]. Yeah. Yeah. Man that is way too soon to get antagonistic. Man that is way too soon to get antagonistic. Is it. Is it. Yeah, way to soon, right. Yeah, way to soon, right. It's like. It's like. Where's the second season of snugg ? Where's the second season of snugg ? ? ? Exhale a little bit. Exhale a little bit. yeah,its, you know, I just love obsessing over stuff like this. yeah,its, you know, I just love obsessing over stuff like this. Right, don't you, doesn't it just like do something to you. Right, don't you, doesn't it just like do something to you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like after you see like. It's like after you see like. You know, a movie where you're just not sure you get exactly what happened. You know, a movie where you're just not sure you get exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah. I, I'm actually [LAUGH] glad that you brought that up, because you know, I think the last thing that you really got obsessed about was this book,The Giver, and you were late on that too. I, I'm actually [LAUGH] glad that you brought that up, because you know, I think the last thing that you really got obsessed about was this book,The Giver, and you were late on that too. [LAUGH] You were, I don't know, maybe like 13, 14 years late. [LAUGH] You were, I don't know, maybe like 13, 14 years late. No big deal. No big deal. [LAUGH] I was about a baker's dozen years late [LAUGH] I was about a baker's dozen years late Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe how late, like. I can't believe how late, like. On, on, The Giver. On, on, The Giver. So, so this fool comes in to the podcast studio. So, so this fool comes in to the podcast studio. This was when we were back in the old Audio One. This was when we were back in the old Audio One. And you were like, dude! And you were like, dude! Have you seen this book, The Giver. Have you seen this book, The Giver. Or read it yeah. Or read it yeah. Read it. Read it. It's basically like saying have you read this book The Bernstein Bears. It's basically like saying have you read this book The Bernstein Bears. Or no it's like have you read this book Fahrenheit 451 or Slaughterhouse Five. Or no it's like have you read this book Fahrenheit 451 or Slaughterhouse Five. I actually had to read that for school. I actually had to read that for school. It was part of my required reading when i. It was part of my required reading when i. Fahrenheit? Fahrenheit? No, no, no, The Giver in like seventh grade, but it's completely not a book for seventh graders and I think that's why it's, it's better to read as an adult. No, no, no, The Giver in like seventh grade, but it's completely not a book for seventh graders and I think that's why it's, it's better to read as an adult. I wish I could have gotten it. I wish I could have gotten it. Yeah i think you get more out of it reading it as an adult, but I do think it's an important piece of literature for young people, for sure. Yeah i think you get more out of it reading it as an adult, but I do think it's an important piece of literature for young people, for sure. Right, if you have the patience to actually sit [INAUDIBLE] Right, if you have the patience to actually sit [INAUDIBLE] Sure. Sure. But so with regards to, The Giver, the first trailer for the movie, movie Adaptation came out over the weekend. But so with regards to, The Giver, the first trailer for the movie, movie Adaptation came out over the weekend. Did you have a chance to watch that? Did you have a chance to watch that? I did. I did. Let me say this. Let me say this. So wait, before you give us your opinion on it, let's talk about what, The Giver is. So wait, before you give us your opinion on it, let's talk about what, The Giver is. It's a novel by Lois Lowery, and it's sort of preceeded all these current young-adult dystopian movies, if you want to describe it as that. It's a novel by Lois Lowery, and it's sort of preceeded all these current young-adult dystopian movies, if you want to describe it as that. Like your Hunger Games, your Diversionses. Like your Hunger Games, your Diversionses. Yeah, sort of Battle Royale-ish type of thing, but it's not violent at all, so. Yeah, sort of Battle Royale-ish type of thing, but it's not violent at all, so. The story takes place in the near future. The story takes place in the near future. And, it's a book about a 12 year old kid basically learning how to function in a very rigid society. And, it's a book about a 12 year old kid basically learning how to function in a very rigid society. Is it the near future? Is it the near future? Well I think so. Well I think so. I think in the, I think in the book. I think in the, I think in the book. It's not like in a parallel universe. It's not like in a parallel universe. But I think in the book, in we also have to discuss out loud right now if we give away the book. But I think in the book, in we also have to discuss out loud right now if we give away the book. No, no. No, no. A lot of the articles online did and I don't want to be a part of that because i want a really nice surprise. A lot of the articles online did and I don't want to be a part of that because i want a really nice surprise. Okay, [INAUDIBLE] totally ruined the book for me. Okay, [INAUDIBLE] totally ruined the book for me. And the be, the best part. And the be, the best part. There's something that happened in the book that I'm kinda confused about how they are going to adapt that into the movie. There's something that happened in the book that I'm kinda confused about how they are going to adapt that into the movie. Especially having seen the trailer Especially having seen the trailer Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. That's so esoteric but. That's so esoteric but. Like it does probably, exist sometime in the future. Like it does probably, exist sometime in the future. I don't know if it's near or far. I don't know if it's near or far. Sure. Sure. But, yeah. But, yeah. I obsess over chronolog, chronologic details. I obsess over chronolog, chronologic details. Yeah, it's a future where not necessarily the government, but everything in society is very basically put out for you. Yeah, it's a future where not necessarily the government, but everything in society is very basically put out for you. Right. Right. They determine what you're gonna do in life, in terms of occupation. They determine what you're gonna do in life, in terms of occupation. how. how. It's like a form of communism [INAUDIBLE] It's like a form of communism [INAUDIBLE] How your family is. How your family is. But, everyone excepts it. But, everyone excepts it. And that's all you can say about it, right? And that's all you can say about it, right? And it's about this 12 year old kid who learns what his job is going to be. And it's about this 12 year old kid who learns what his job is going to be. Right, and he and so, so, so Jeff Bridges. Right, and he and so, so, so Jeff Bridges. Yeah, it's a really good cast. Yeah, it's a really good cast. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even if whatever you want to say about the trailer. I mean, even if whatever you want to say about the trailer. The cast is great. The cast is great. It's Jeff Bridges as the giver, as the receiver. It's Jeff Bridges as the giver, as the receiver. No, no. No, no. The giver. The giver. The giver. The giver. Yeah, the giver. Yeah, the giver. You got Meryl Streep who is the head of the society. You got Meryl Streep who is the head of the society. Right. Right. You have Taylor Swift who makes an appearance as the previous receiver. You have Taylor Swift who makes an appearance as the previous receiver. And then the giver is a kid named. And then the giver is a kid named. The receiver you mean. The receiver you mean. I'm sorry, the receiver is Brenton Thwaites. I'm sorry, the receiver is Brenton Thwaites. Right, its got to be a kid. Right, its got to be a kid. Some random kid, I think that he's from soap operas. Some random kid, I think that he's from soap operas. And it's looks like Katie Holmes is in this movie also. And it's looks like Katie Holmes is in this movie also. Katie Holmes and I've been the Alexandra Scarsguard as the receiver's parents. Katie Holmes and I've been the Alexandra Scarsguard as the receiver's parents. Right so. Right so. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna give anything away. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna give anything away. I think just judging by the trailer, they do seem to take a lot of liberty in manipulating the story. I think just judging by the trailer, they do seem to take a lot of liberty in manipulating the story. It just seems that that's what's happening. It just seems that that's what's happening. I, I, I don't know. I, I, I don't know. Are, do you agree? Are, do you agree? Because. Because. Yeah. Yeah. I, the book is relatively fresh in my mind. I, the book is relatively fresh in my mind. Well, okay, though clearly what they're trying to do with the book is to make it appealing to young kids by putting a lot of action and sight sequences in it. Well, okay, though clearly what they're trying to do with the book is to make it appealing to young kids by putting a lot of action and sight sequences in it. But that's totally not. But that's totally not. I mean talk about heavy rain. I mean talk about heavy rain. That's completely not what The Giver is about. That's completely not what The Giver is about. The Giver has a very slow, meandering pace and a lot of the greatest scenes in the book are just dialogue at a kitchen table like you just saw in the trailer, right? The Giver has a very slow, meandering pace and a lot of the greatest scenes in the book are just dialogue at a kitchen table like you just saw in the trailer, right? I think that's part of the intensity and the drama is. I think that's part of the intensity and the drama is. It's like that quiet brooding. It's like that quiet brooding. Right. Right. It's exaggerated by the slow pacing of the book This is cool, though, I mean we just got to the part of the trailer that shows the screenshot of the Giver's, like, sort of facility. It's exaggerated by the slow pacing of the book This is cool, though, I mean we just got to the part of the trailer that shows the screenshot of the Giver's, like, sort of facility. Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly how I pictured it in my head. And that's exactly how I pictured it in my head. Sure. Sure. That's weird when it happens like that. That's weird when it happens like that. Right. Right. You know, it just has a bunch of books in sort of a library setting, it's so good. You know, it just has a bunch of books in sort of a library setting, it's so good. Right. Right. But, I don't know, what were your main complaints with the trailer. But, I don't know, what were your main complaints with the trailer. I mean I don't really have any complaints because I don't think you can really judge trailers. I mean I don't really have any complaints because I don't think you can really judge trailers. You know, that, I worry that it's being like too Hunger Gamesy. You know, that, I worry that it's being like too Hunger Gamesy. Yeah. Yeah. Which for me is a big, worry considering. Which for me is a big, worry considering. To Giver is such a better piece of literature than all that other crap. To Giver is such a better piece of literature than all that other crap. So I worry about that and I am anxious about that, but it's not gonna stop me from seeing it. So I worry about that and I am anxious about that, but it's not gonna stop me from seeing it. I mean the casts, I am sold on the cast, I just worry like cause you know, everyone who knows the story of the giver knows that one detail. I mean the casts, I am sold on the cast, I just worry like cause you know, everyone who knows the story of the giver knows that one detail. Right. Right. That one little detail that changes the book. That one little detail that changes the book. Forever changes everything, and I wonder how they're gonna do it. Forever changes everything, and I wonder how they're gonna do it. And for me, the movie adaptation will live or die by how it handles. And for me, the movie adaptation will live or die by how it handles. [CROSSTALK] Right. [CROSSTALK] Right. that one detail. that one detail. I think I know how they're gonna do it, and it's different from the trailer, but eventually it will come out to probably the way that you were imagining the movie to be. I think I know how they're gonna do it, and it's different from the trailer, but eventually it will come out to probably the way that you were imagining the movie to be. Okay. Okay. I think what I'm really exited about is, like, hope. I think what I'm really exited about is, like, hope. I'm hoping that it'll be more like Gattaca and less like Hunger Games. I'm hoping that it'll be more like Gattaca and less like Hunger Games. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. Like, sort of that weird future where there is action involved sometimes. Like, sort of that weird future where there is action involved sometimes. I mean, you can know they're trying to make it sexy by having a love sequence in there. I mean, you can know they're trying to make it sexy by having a love sequence in there. Sure. Sure. There's a kissing scene. There's a kissing scene. Sure. Sure. Between him and another girl. Between him and another girl. But there was nothing like that in the book. But there was nothing like that in the book. Right. Right. Obviously, they have to sex it up a little bit. Obviously, they have to sex it up a little bit. So all that stuff aside, Meryl frickin Streep. So all that stuff aside, Meryl frickin Streep. I mean, how can this be bad with her and Jeff Daniels. I mean, how can this be bad with her and Jeff Daniels. I'm into her. I'm into her. You know, she's brilliant. You know, she's brilliant. Jeff Bridges is, brilliant. Jeff Bridges is, brilliant. Jeff Bridges. Jeff Bridges. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we're in good hands. So we're in good hands. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited about it. I'm excited about it. Find out if your childhood is ruined this summer. Find out if your childhood is ruined this summer. Yeah. Yeah. What, what childhood books were ruined by movie adaptations for you? What, what childhood books were ruined by movie adaptations for you? Did you watch Enders Game? Did you watch Enders Game? No. No. I heard really terrible stuff about that. I heard really terrible stuff about that. Really bad. Really bad. Yeah. Yeah. I did watch Perks of Being a Wallflower, though. I did watch Perks of Being a Wallflower, though. It was okay. It was okay. I heard that was okay. I heard that was okay. I read that when I was a kid. I read that when I was a kid. Not that I was really hoping for anything special with that movie anyway. Not that I was really hoping for anything special with that movie anyway. Sure, sure. Sure, sure. It's a, it's tough, man. It's a, it's tough, man. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. Yeah. Yeah. And now is about that time where, like, it's our childhood that they're exploiting, right? And now is about that time where, like, it's our childhood that they're exploiting, right? Right. Right. Like, all the books that we grew up reading. Like, all the books that we grew up reading. Yeah, which is both good and bad. Yeah, which is both good and bad. Sure. Sure. You know? You know? I like seeing that stuff. I like seeing that stuff. But when they don't do it well. But when they don't do it well. Actually I wanted to have a, I want to have a discussion about what I should do with my TV. Actually I wanted to have a, I want to have a discussion about what I should do with my TV. So, I'm not even going to talk about a story now. So, I'm not even going to talk about a story now. Okay. Okay. I should have brought this up at the beginning. I should have brought this up at the beginning. No, it's fine. No, it's fine. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. But, so it's come time for me to basically buy a digital tuner. But, so it's come time for me to basically buy a digital tuner. I decided to stop you know, considering the idea that I could get cable some day. I decided to stop you know, considering the idea that I could get cable some day. And just you know, cut the cord completely, but I still wanna get broadcast And just you know, cut the cord completely, but I still wanna get broadcast television on my TV. television on my TV. OK. OK. It's a modern TV in that it's HD and flat panel and stuff. It's a modern TV in that it's HD and flat panel and stuff. But I don't think it has a digital tuner built in. But I don't think it has a digital tuner built in. OK. OK. And a couple months ago. And a couple months ago. I just stopped getting channels I just stopped getting channels [LAUGH] [LAUGH] From my coax cable, which I'm assuming is because they finally got to my, my adapter. From my coax cable, which I'm assuming is because they finally got to my, my adapter. Okay. Okay. It switched it over from analog. It switched it over from analog. Right. Right. So, I'm wondering, what's the best way to do that? So, I'm wondering, what's the best way to do that? Is there a brand [LAUGH] that you guys recommend, in terms of what kind of adapter to buy. Is there a brand [LAUGH] that you guys recommend, in terms of what kind of adapter to buy. I was at Costco over the weekend. I was at Costco over the weekend. Sure. Sure. And they had, I know, I should, I should ask him, but I wanted to know if you guys had any ideas. And they had, I know, I should, I should ask him, but I wanted to know if you guys had any ideas. I found one that was literally a digital antenna that you had to stick to your window. I found one that was literally a digital antenna that you had to stick to your window. Sure yeah. Sure yeah. And, it basically covers up, like, you know, like an ten inch cube. And, it basically covers up, like, you know, like an ten inch cube. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what they're all going to look like? Is that what they're all going to look like? You have to get an antenna. You have to get an antenna. Right, right. Right, right. So, you know. So, you know. But there's none that. But there's none that. Like, don't picture it out like that maybe. Like, don't picture it out like that maybe. I was just thinking that it would be like a little doggle that that sticks out of the back of your TV. I was just thinking that it would be like a little doggle that that sticks out of the back of your TV. No, no, it's gotta have. No, no, it's gotta have. Some sort of line of sight I think. Some sort of line of sight I think. Or at least, access to the sky. Or at least, access to the sky. Yeah. Yeah. And then. And then. I mean it's not like a satellite thing, but it needs to receive the broadcast,and. I mean it's not like a satellite thing, but it needs to receive the broadcast,and. Mm hm. Mm hm. I think it's better if it's outside [CROSSTALK] I think it's better if it's outside [CROSSTALK] It's gotta be looking at the sky. It's gotta be looking at the sky. I don't know if it's gotta be looking at the sky, but it's gotta just be outside. I don't know if it's gotta be looking at the sky, but it's gotta just be outside. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. I think. I think. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, So once I do that, So once I do that, If I work, Then I'll have all regular network broadcast channels. If I work, Then I'll have all regular network broadcast channels. That's it. That's it. And in in HD too, hopefully. And in in HD too, hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. You'll get them in HD. You'll get them in HD. But you'll need an HD OTA tuner antenna over the air. But you'll need an HD OTA tuner antenna over the air. Let me write that down. Let me write that down. [CROSSTALK] I'm, I'm not the professional in, or expert in this category. [CROSSTALK] I'm, I'm not the professional in, or expert in this category. This is something for David Katswine. This is something for David Katswine. Am I gonna have to Rent a box from Time Warner? Am I gonna have to Rent a box from Time Warner? No, no. No, no. You don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. No. No. For, for regular analog. For, for regular analog. Right, you don't, yeah. Right, you don't, yeah. Just the one time fee for the tuner. Just the one time fee for the tuner. [COUGH] [COUGH] What do you do, Areo? What do you do, Areo? Do you, do you have cable at home Areo? Do you, do you have cable at home Areo? Nope. Nope. [COUGH] [COUGH] So how do you watch broadcast channels? So how do you watch broadcast channels? Like your New York Ones or pick 11's of the world? Like your New York Ones or pick 11's of the world? I don't. I don't. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] I don't. I don't. Everything I watch is On Demand. Everything I watch is On Demand. [LAUGH] I don't. [LAUGH] I don't. On demand or on the Internet. On demand or on the Internet. That's all I watch. That's all I watch. So you don't have anything on your actual TV, TV? So you don't have anything on your actual TV, TV? You just use like an HDMI cable, so like. You just use like an HDMI cable, so like. Yeah. Yeah. Hook it up to your computer or something? Hook it up to your computer or something? Yeah I have Chromecast I have then I have HBO Go and you know Netflix and all that. Yeah I have Chromecast I have then I have HBO Go and you know Netflix and all that. Huh, yeah so you have cut the cord completely. Huh, yeah so you have cut the cord completely. I haven't had cable in, for years like since I was living in San Francisco yeah such a long time. I haven't had cable in, for years like since I was living in San Francisco yeah such a long time. I mean at first it was just cuz I wasn't really interested in TV. I mean at first it was just cuz I wasn't really interested in TV. But like, now there's ways to watch your favorite shows without having to have cable. But like, now there's ways to watch your favorite shows without having to have cable. So. So. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. You know, I just don't, I don't watch any local TV though. You know, I just don't, I don't watch any local TV though. I used to have a splitter that I bought when I first moved in. I used to have a splitter that I bought when I first moved in. And this is, like, four or five years ago. And this is, like, four or five years ago. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] I bought a splitter. I bought a splitter. I don't have it there anymore. I don't have it there anymore. Did? Did? Actually, I found a splitter in the apartment. Actually, I found a splitter in the apartment. [LAUGH] Did the people know. [LAUGH] Did the people know. It was already connected. It was already connected. That it was being split? That it was being split? I think they did because I was getting Food Network and TBS for a while. I think they did because I was getting Food Network and TBS for a while. Which are obviously cable channels. Which are obviously cable channels. And then someone else started changing the channel. And then someone else started changing the channel. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then one day, that got shut down. And then, and then one day, that got shut down. Yeah. Yeah. But I still had my Pix 11 and New York one to watch, cuz I don't flip on the news in the morning. But I still had my Pix 11 and New York one to watch, cuz I don't flip on the news in the morning. Really [CROSSTALK] Really [CROSSTALK] And then recently. And then recently. [CROSSTALK] And watching that crap? [CROSSTALK] And watching that crap? Yeah. Yeah. I was just, and I, I was watching Food Network and TBS for a really long time. I was just, and I, I was watching Food Network and TBS for a really long time. [LAUGH] And now it's finally come to it. [LAUGH] And now it's finally come to it. I think you gotta talk to CATS, figure out what over. I think you gotta talk to CATS, figure out what over. Because I don't even know if I'm a 100% right about that. Because I don't even know if I'm a 100% right about that. So you gotta talk to him. So you gotta talk to him. Okay. Okay. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you wanna to position it. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you wanna to position it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I haven't had to deal with that. I haven't had to deal with that. Ever. Ever. Oh, cuz you have cable. Oh, cuz you have cable. I have cable. I have cable. And so I'm somewhere in the middle of these two guys. And so I'm somewhere in the middle of these two guys. You're definitely, yeah. You're definitely, yeah. I think Ariel's way ahead of you. I think Ariel's way ahead of you. I just want local news man. I just want local news man. I think you are sort of like crawling out of the ether. I think you are sort of like crawling out of the ether. Yeah, I gotta have Pat Kiernan talking to me every morning letting me know what is going on in the city. Yeah, I gotta have Pat Kiernan talking to me every morning letting me know what is going on in the city. Yeah, you just sorta like poking your head out of the surface for the very first time. Yeah, you just sorta like poking your head out of the surface for the very first time. Yeah. Yeah. Like a little baby fawn. Like a little baby fawn. [LAUGH] That's what you do. [LAUGH] That's what you do. I need it. I need it. Alright so tell us about this Apple story. Alright so tell us about this Apple story. So, I, I, I'm rolling through CNN.com this morning, which I never do. So, I, I, I'm rolling through CNN.com this morning, which I never do. And, I see a headline that I just couldn't understand. And, I see a headline that I just couldn't understand. The headline reads, can Apple help make hearing aids cool? The headline reads, can Apple help make hearing aids cool? That implies to me. That implies to me. Yeah. Yeah. That there are people walking around. That there are people walking around. Not being able to hear anything because they made the choice that hearing aids are just not cool enough. Not being able to hear anything because they made the choice that hearing aids are just not cool enough. Right. Right. For them to wear. For them to wear. Like I'd rather be deaf than hear anything because man are hearing aids unsightly. Like I'd rather be deaf than hear anything because man are hearing aids unsightly. I really don't know about any of that, nevertheless there is a Danish hearing aid company. I really don't know about any of that, nevertheless there is a Danish hearing aid company. Called GN Resound, that is putting out a new hearing aid, compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod. Called GN Resound, that is putting out a new hearing aid, compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod. It syncs wirelessly with the new Apple devices. It syncs wirelessly with the new Apple devices. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It takes advantages of IOS 7's new accessibility options for the hearing impaired. It takes advantages of IOS 7's new accessibility options for the hearing impaired. This seems pretty cool. This seems pretty cool. So it's basically acting as like a little. So it's basically acting as like a little. Like a wireless ear piece. Like a wireless ear piece. Right. Right. And, that's cool, so I think, you know incorporating that is something that you would really want to have involved in your hearing aid. And, that's cool, so I think, you know incorporating that is something that you would really want to have involved in your hearing aid. Right. Right. What I think is really interesting is that some of these hearing aids will give you like really specific. What I think is really interesting is that some of these hearing aids will give you like really specific. Control over, like, which hearing aid is louder, what kind of settings you would like, like how you want it mixed. Control over, like, which hearing aid is louder, what kind of settings you would like, like how you want it mixed. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. But I don't think there's anyone out there who's really being like [INAUDIBLE] I'm not wearing a hearing aid. But I don't think there's anyone out there who's really being like [INAUDIBLE] I'm not wearing a hearing aid. Those aren't cool. Those aren't cool. Yeah. Yeah. Hearing is cool. Hearing is cool. Hearing it is very cool. Hearing it is very cool. I think, you know, they're probably comparing it to those like bulky, over ear. I think, you know, they're probably comparing it to those like bulky, over ear. Right, but nevertheless Right, but nevertheless Crap. Crap. That thing is sort of like a taysis headline, for sure. That thing is sort of like a taysis headline, for sure. Probably. Probably. Someone reading this who actually is deaf certainly would appreciate it. Someone reading this who actually is deaf certainly would appreciate it. Well, that's not why I can't hear. Well, that's not why I can't hear. You know what's cool is that it. You know what's cool is that it. It actually functions as a regular hearing aid. It actually functions as a regular hearing aid. Right. Right. I'm reading in this article. I'm reading in this article. And, you can actually pair it with your phone to use the power of your phone's microphone. And, you can actually pair it with your phone to use the power of your phone's microphone. Sure. Sure. To amplify the ambience sound around you. To amplify the ambience sound around you. Which is great. Which is great. Which is awesome. Which is awesome. You kind of have your own little microphone now. You kind of have your own little microphone now. Yes. Yes. When you just, like, you could do. When you just, like, you could do. Like a conference call. Like a conference call. Stick it up to your face. Stick it up to your face. I almost want that. I almost want that. In New York restaurants or bars or things like that, where you have to shout at you're friend to sort of. In New York restaurants or bars or things like that, where you have to shout at you're friend to sort of. Right. Right. To be heard. To be heard. Sure. Sure. Or listen to someone. Or listen to someone. It'd be great if you could just have, like a private phone conversation with the person setting across from you like that. It'd be great if you could just have, like a private phone conversation with the person setting across from you like that. Right. Right. Its, it's a great idea. Its, it's a great idea. It really is. It really is. I'm surprised there aren't apps already, that do similar things, just with your headphones. I'm surprised there aren't apps already, that do similar things, just with your headphones. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. There's gotta be right? There's gotta be right? Probably. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. You know it's funny. You know it's funny. I was actually talking to Steve Gutenberg. I was actually talking to Steve Gutenberg. Who is not deaf. Who is not deaf. Who is not deaf. Who is not deaf. In fact, the opposite. In fact, the opposite. He has really good ears. He has really good ears. Yeah. Yeah. But I was talking to him and he pitched me a guest that I really wanna have on the show. But I was talking to him and he pitched me a guest that I really wanna have on the show. She's an audiologist that works about a. Maybe three or four blocks away from our office. She's an audiologist that works about a. Maybe three or four blocks away from our office. And he goes to her, he goes to her to get his hearing, checked and then also to get, hearing, what's it called? And he goes to her, he goes to her to get his hearing, checked and then also to get, hearing, what's it called? Mold. Mold. Earplugs. Earplugs. Yeah. Yeah. He got earplugs cuz obviously Steve needs to protect his ears. He got earplugs cuz obviously Steve needs to protect his ears. Of course. Of course. And he gets custom earplugs made from her, and she volunteered to come on the show and actually start the process of getting custom earplugs or earphones whichever ones you want. And he gets custom earplugs made from her, and she volunteered to come on the show and actually start the process of getting custom earplugs or earphones whichever ones you want. Oh, cool. Oh, cool. And she'll do that for us on the air. And she'll do that for us on the air. Let's do it. Let's do it. So I told them already like yeah we should definitely arrange that and we could talk to her about things like losing your hearing or what volumes not to reach if you want to preserve that. So I told them already like yeah we should definitely arrange that and we could talk to her about things like losing your hearing or what volumes not to reach if you want to preserve that. Alright. Alright. Have you noticed that on the subway they've started putting up those ads? Have you noticed that on the subway they've started putting up those ads? Have you see this Ariel? Have you see this Ariel? It's like ads that say. It's like ads that say. You may think that your music sounds good now. You may think that your music sounds good now. But what about when you can't hear anything in 20 years. But what about when you can't hear anything in 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. And it's basically wearing kids on the subway. And it's basically wearing kids on the subway. To turn down there music through headphones. To turn down there music through headphones. Do you think well have an epidemic. Do you think well have an epidemic. Of like very poor hearing. Of like very poor hearing. Definitely. Definitely. You do. You do. Yes definitely. Yes definitely. And then we'll just have to come out with a better hearing aid. And then we'll just have to come out with a better hearing aid. It's all part of the plan. It's all part of the plan. That's it's all. That's it's all. And then Apple with a hearing aid. And then Apple with a hearing aid. [LAUGH] Right. [LAUGH] Right. And well spend money on it. And well spend money on it. And will totally. And will totally. You know, tap into our You know, tap into our Yeah. Yeah. Young, you know, when we used to be able to hear stuff. Young, you know, when we used to be able to hear stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know man. I don't know man. I started thinking about that the other day. I started thinking about that the other day. Well. Well. Are we a generation of kids who'll be deaf by 50. Are we a generation of kids who'll be deaf by 50. Well, combined, that's not, it's not even just the music that you listen to in your headphones. Well, combined, that's not, it's not even just the music that you listen to in your headphones. It's the, live music too. It's the, live music too. Oh, I think it's a big part of it. Oh, I think it's a big part of it. You definitely went to go see a lot of live bands like me when I was young. You definitely went to go see a lot of live bands like me when I was young. Sure, yeah. Sure, yeah. And I'd always have no problem standing like this close to the speaker too. And I'd always have no problem standing like this close to the speaker too. I, after a while though I, I started to think like, okay, this, this. I, after a while though I, I started to think like, okay, this, this. It's ringing for 48 hours after or something. It's ringing for 48 hours after or something. Yeah, this isn't good. Yeah, this isn't good. Something tells me that ringing is not cool. Something tells me that ringing is not cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about it. Yeah. Yeah. What? What? Huh? Huh? [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Last thing I wanna show, before we leave for today, is, you weren't here to talk to Bridget about her weekend but, on Friday she was telling us that she, wa, was going to a dance over the weekend. Last thing I wanna show, before we leave for today, is, you weren't here to talk to Bridget about her weekend but, on Friday she was telling us that she, wa, was going to a dance over the weekend. What? What? And it was something that, I think. And it was something that, I think. You'd be into. You'd be into. It's a company that actually. It's a company that actually. It's called Barbecue Films. It's called Barbecue Films. And they recreate popular scenes from nostalgic movies like Ninja Turtles and, Back to the Future. And they recreate popular scenes from nostalgic movies like Ninja Turtles and, Back to the Future. So over. So over. Wait. Wait. So what did they create from Ninja Turtles? So what did they create from Ninja Turtles? They recreated that scene, where the foot clan hides out. They recreated that scene, where the foot clan hides out. The, the headquarters for the foot clan from the first movie. The, the headquarters for the foot clan from the first movie. Oh, like, the arcade? Oh, like, the arcade? Like [CROSSTALK] Like [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. And there's, like, a half ramp. And there's, like, a half ramp. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's cool. That's cool. And. And. Oh I wanna hang out there. Oh I wanna hang out there. It's, like, yeah. It's, like, yeah. Like, cigarettes getting traded for Walkman stereos. Like, cigarettes getting traded for Walkman stereos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And things like that. And things like that. So they recreated that. So they recreated that. Scene. Scene. I wanna go there, where was that? I wanna go there, where was that? It was sick, I did it somewhere in New York. It was sick, I did it somewhere in New York. Damn it! Damn it! Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I want them to the hackers scene where they go to the. I want them to the hackers scene where they go to the. Yeah. Yeah. Cyberdelia. Cyberdelia. Cafe and busted all those books, Cyberdelia. Cafe and busted all those books, Cyberdelia. Anyways so on Saturday, they re-created Hill Valley High School's Enchantment Under the Sea dance. Anyways so on Saturday, they re-created Hill Valley High School's Enchantment Under the Sea dance. Aw, no way. Aw, no way. From Back to the Future. From Back to the Future. That's very cool. That's very cool. Do we have photos? Do we have photos? Yeah, and, Bridget actually posted a bunch of photos, and it was basically a prom, but people got dressed up, to look exactly like some of the characters, like some of the characters, including Marty McFly. Yeah, and, Bridget actually posted a bunch of photos, and it was basically a prom, but people got dressed up, to look exactly like some of the characters, like some of the characters, including Marty McFly. So let's go through some of these. So let's go through some of these. Look at this. Look at this. This is George and Loraine. This is George and Loraine. They actually had specific characters coming. They actually had specific characters coming. Oh my God! Oh my God! That looks like a still out of the movie. That looks like a still out of the movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible. It's incredible. And they all of course had Marty McFly with the Gibson guitar. And they all of course had Marty McFly with the Gibson guitar. This is supposed to be Biff. This is supposed to be Biff. Biff, yeah. Biff, yeah. You know, and he was walking around with a, a bruise on his eye. You know, and he was walking around with a, a bruise on his eye. After he gets knocked out. After he gets knocked out. Bunch of manure in his mouth. Bunch of manure in his mouth. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Shoulda just walked around with manure in his mouth. Shoulda just walked around with manure in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Here's Bridget and her husband right in front of the Enchantment Under the Sea sign. Here's Bridget and her husband right in front of the Enchantment Under the Sea sign. That's so cool. That's so cool. Yup, more George McFly, look at this. Yup, more George McFly, look at this. You know who that is? You know who that is? I do not. I do not. Strickland! Strickland! Okay. Okay. Principal Strickland. Principal Strickland. Bald Strickland. Bald Strickland. [CROSSTALK] Holding a copy of Ooh La La. [CROSSTALK] Holding a copy of Ooh La La. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Wrapped in a grey sports almanac. Wrapped in a grey sports almanac. And then they have the whole band. And then they have the whole band. So where was this, because it doesn't look like it was too crowded. So where was this, because it doesn't look like it was too crowded. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Not as crowded as the original. Not as crowded as the original. Where the hell was this? Where the hell was this? It was at a sports gymnasium on Houseton and Lafayette. It was at a sports gymnasium on Houseton and Lafayette. Okay. Okay. So somewhere in. So somewhere in. Soho. Soho. You talk to Bridget about it, or no? You talk to Bridget about it, or no? I haven't talked to her about it yet. I haven't talked to her about it yet. I just was looking at her, I just was looking at her, Cuz it looks like there was five people there. Cuz it looks like there was five people there. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. Yeah. This is really cool. This is really cool. So, Biff actually came with a bunch of his henchmen. So, Biff actually came with a bunch of his henchmen. One of which was wearing these 3-D glasses. One of which was wearing these 3-D glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Was that Billy Zane that was wearing them? Was that Billy Zane that was wearing them? Yeah. Yeah. That was Billy Zane. That was Billy Zane. No way. No way. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, here he is with his goons. So yeah, here he is with his goons. Cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was kinda cool. I thought that was kinda cool. That is sick, I like that. That is sick, I like that. And super nerdy. And super nerdy. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] I wanna go to the Ninja Turtles one though. I wanna go to the Ninja Turtles one though. Yeah. Yeah. That's gonna do it for us today. That's gonna do it for us today. 866.404. 866.404. CNET. CNET. That's a habit that I can't break. That's a habit that I can't break. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna do that soon. We're gonna do that soon. Just not yet. Just not yet. We have about four, 500 voicemails. We have about four, 500 voicemails. [LAUGH] To get through. [LAUGH] To get through. Send us an email to, the404@cnet.com you can follow us on Instagram, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook. Send us an email to, the404@cnet.com you can follow us on Instagram, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook. 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And we look forward to that. And we look forward to that. So until then, we'll see you. So until then, we'll see you. I'm Jeff Backalar. I'm Jeff Backalar. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Justin Yu. I'm Ariel Nunez. I'm Ariel Nunez. This has been the 404 show, high-tech, low-brau. This has been the 404 show, high-tech, low-brau. We'll see you guys tomorrow. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] OK. OK. It's a modern TV in that it's HD and flat panel and stuff. It's a modern TV in that it's HD and flat panel and stuff. But I don't think it has a digital tuner built in. But I don't think it has a digital tuner built in. OK. OK. And a couple months ago. And a couple months ago. I just stopped getting channels I just stopped getting channels [LAUGH] [LAUGH] From my coax cable, which I'm assuming is because they finally got to my, my adapter. From my coax cable, which I'm assuming is because they finally got to my, my adapter. Okay. Okay. It switched it over from analog. It switched it over from analog. Right. Right. So, I'm wondering, what's the best way to do that? So, I'm wondering, what's the best way to do that? Is there a brand [LAUGH] that you guys recommend, in terms of what kind of adapter to buy. Is there a brand [LAUGH] that you guys recommend, in terms of what kind of adapter to buy. I was at Costco over the weekend. I was at Costco over the weekend. Sure. Sure. And they had, I know, I should, I should ask him, but I wanted to know if you guys had any ideas. And they had, I know, I should, I should ask him, but I wanted to know if you guys had any ideas. I found one that was literally a digital antenna that you had to stick to your window. I found one that was literally a digital antenna that you had to stick to your window. Sure yeah. Sure yeah. And, it basically covers up, like, you know, like an ten inch cube. And, it basically covers up, like, you know, like an ten inch cube. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what they're all going to look like? Is that what they're all going to look like? You have to get an antenna. You have to get an antenna. Right, right. Right, right. So, you know. So, you know. But there's none that. But there's none that. Like, don't picture it out like that maybe. Like, don't picture it out like that maybe. I was just thinking that it would be like a little doggle that that sticks out of the back of your TV. I was just thinking that it would be like a little doggle that that sticks out of the back of your TV. No, no, it's gotta have. No, no, it's gotta have. Some sort of line of sight I think. Some sort of line of sight I think. Or at least, access to the sky. Or at least, access to the sky. Yeah. Yeah. And then. And then. I mean it's not like a satellite thing, but it needs to receive the broadcast,and. I mean it's not like a satellite thing, but it needs to receive the broadcast,and. Mm hm. Mm hm. I think it's better if it's outside [CROSSTALK] I think it's better if it's outside [CROSSTALK] It's gotta be looking at the sky. It's gotta be looking at the sky. I don't know if it's gotta be looking at the sky, but it's gotta just be outside. I don't know if it's gotta be looking at the sky, but it's gotta just be outside. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. I think. I think. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, So once I do that, So once I do that, If I work, Then I'll have all regular network broadcast channels. If I work, Then I'll have all regular network broadcast channels. That's it. That's it. And in in HD too, hopefully. And in in HD too, hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. You'll get them in HD. You'll get them in HD. But you'll need an HD OTA tuner antenna over the air. But you'll need an HD OTA tuner antenna over the air. Let me write that down. Let me write that down. [CROSSTALK] I'm, I'm not the professional in, or expert in this category. [CROSSTALK] I'm, I'm not the professional in, or expert in this category. This is something for David Katswine. This is something for David Katswine. Am I gonna have to Rent a box from Time Warner? Am I gonna have to Rent a box from Time Warner? No, no. No, no. You don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. No. No. For, for regular analog. For, for regular analog. Right, you don't, yeah. Right, you don't, yeah. Just the one time fee for the tuner. Just the one time fee for the tuner. [COUGH] [COUGH] What do you do, Areo? What do you do, Areo? Do you, do you have cable at home Areo? Do you, do you have cable at home Areo? Nope. Nope. [COUGH] [COUGH] So how do you watch broadcast channels? So how do you watch broadcast channels? Like your New York Ones or pick 11's of the world? Like your New York Ones or pick 11's of the world? I don't. I don't. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] I don't. I don't. Everything I watch is On Demand. Everything I watch is On Demand. [LAUGH] I don't. [LAUGH] I don't. On demand or on the Internet. On demand or on the Internet. That's all I watch. That's all I watch. So you don't have anything on your actual TV, TV? So you don't have anything on your actual TV, TV? You just use like an HDMI cable, so like. You just use like an HDMI cable, so like. Yeah. Yeah. Hook it up to your computer or something? Hook it up to your computer or something? Yeah I have Chromecast I have then I have HBO Go and you know Netflix and all that. Yeah I have Chromecast I have then I have HBO Go and you know Netflix and all that. Huh, yeah so you have cut the cord completely. Huh, yeah so you have cut the cord completely. I haven't had cable in, for years like since I was living in San Francisco yeah such a long time. I haven't had cable in, for years like since I was living in San Francisco yeah such a long time. I mean at first it was just cuz I wasn't really interested in TV. I mean at first it was just cuz I wasn't really interested in TV. But like, now there's ways to watch your favorite shows without having to have cable. But like, now there's ways to watch your favorite shows without having to have cable. So. So. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. You know, I just don't, I don't watch any local TV though. You know, I just don't, I don't watch any local TV though. I used to have a splitter that I bought when I first moved in. I used to have a splitter that I bought when I first moved in. And this is, like, four or five years ago. And this is, like, four or five years ago. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] I bought a splitter. I bought a splitter. I don't have it there anymore. I don't have it there anymore. Did? Did? Actually, I found a splitter in the apartment. Actually, I found a splitter in the apartment. [LAUGH] Did the people know. [LAUGH] Did the people know. It was already connected. It was already connected. That it was being split? That it was being split? I think they did because I was getting Food Network and TBS for a while. I think they did because I was getting Food Network and TBS for a while. Which are obviously cable channels. Which are obviously cable channels. And then someone else started changing the channel. And then someone else started changing the channel. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then one day, that got shut down. And then, and then one day, that got shut down. Yeah. Yeah. But I still had my Pix 11 and New York one to watch, cuz I don't flip on the news in the morning. But I still had my Pix 11 and New York one to watch, cuz I don't flip on the news in the morning. Really [CROSSTALK] Really [CROSSTALK] And then recently. And then recently. [CROSSTALK] And watching that crap? [CROSSTALK] And watching that crap? Yeah. Yeah. I was just, and I, I was watching Food Network and TBS for a really long time. I was just, and I, I was watching Food Network and TBS for a really long time. [LAUGH] And now it's finally come to it. [LAUGH] And now it's finally come to it. I think you gotta talk to CATS, figure out what over. I think you gotta talk to CATS, figure out what over. Because I don't even know if I'm a 100% right about that. Because I don't even know if I'm a 100% right about that. So you gotta talk to him. So you gotta talk to him. Okay. Okay. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you wanna to position it. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you wanna to position it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I haven't had to deal with that. I haven't had to deal with that. Ever. Ever. Oh, cuz you have cable. Oh, cuz you have cable. I have cable. I have cable. And so I'm somewhere in the middle of these two guys. And so I'm somewhere in the middle of these two guys. You're definitely, yeah. You're definitely, yeah. I think Ariel's way ahead of you. I think Ariel's way ahead of you. I just want local news man. I just want local news man. I think you are sort of like crawling out of the ether. I think you are sort of like crawling out of the ether. Yeah, I gotta have Pat Kiernan talking to me every morning letting me know what is going on in the city. Yeah, I gotta have Pat Kiernan talking to me every morning letting me know what is going on in the city. Yeah, you just sorta like poking your head out of the surface for the very first time. Yeah, you just sorta like poking your head out of the surface for the very first time. Yeah. Yeah. Like a little baby fawn. Like a little baby fawn. [LAUGH] That's what you do. [LAUGH] That's what you do. I need it. I need it. Alright so tell us about this Apple story. Alright so tell us about this Apple story. So, I, I, I'm rolling through CNN.com this morning, which I never do. So, I, I, I'm rolling through CNN.com this morning, which I never do. And, I see a headline that I just couldn't understand. And, I see a headline that I just couldn't understand. The headline reads, can Apple help make hearing aids cool? The headline reads, can Apple help make hearing aids cool? That implies to me. That implies to me. Yeah. Yeah. That there are people walking around. That there are people walking around. Not being able to hear anything because they made the choice that hearing aids are just not cool enough. Not being able to hear anything because they made the choice that hearing aids are just not cool enough. Right. Right. For them to wear. For them to wear. Like I'd rather be deaf than hear anything because man are hearing aids unsightly. Like I'd rather be deaf than hear anything because man are hearing aids unsightly. I really don't know about any of that, nevertheless there is a Danish hearing aid company. I really don't know about any of that, nevertheless there is a Danish hearing aid company. Called GN Resound, that is putting out a new hearing aid, compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod. Called GN Resound, that is putting out a new hearing aid, compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod. It syncs wirelessly with the new Apple devices. It syncs wirelessly with the new Apple devices. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It takes advantages of IOS 7's new accessibility options for the hearing impaired. It takes advantages of IOS 7's new accessibility options for the hearing impaired. This seems pretty cool. This seems pretty cool. So it's basically acting as like a little. So it's basically acting as like a little. Like a wireless ear piece. Like a wireless ear piece. Right. Right. And, that's cool, so I think, you know incorporating that is something that you would really want to have involved in your hearing aid. And, that's cool, so I think, you know incorporating that is something that you would really want to have involved in your hearing aid. Right. Right. What I think is really interesting is that some of these hearing aids will give you like really specific. What I think is really interesting is that some of these hearing aids will give you like really specific. Control over, like, which hearing aid is louder, what kind of settings you would like, like how you want it mixed. Control over, like, which hearing aid is louder, what kind of settings you would like, like how you want it mixed. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. But I don't think there's anyone out there who's really being like [INAUDIBLE] I'm not wearing a hearing aid. But I don't think there's anyone out there who's really being like [INAUDIBLE] I'm not wearing a hearing aid. Those aren't cool. Those aren't cool. Yeah. Yeah. Hearing is cool. Hearing is cool. Hearing it is very cool. Hearing it is very cool. I think, you know, they're probably comparing it to those like bulky, over ear. I think, you know, they're probably comparing it to those like bulky, over ear. Right, but nevertheless Right, but nevertheless Crap. Crap. That thing is sort of like a taysis headline, for sure. That thing is sort of like a taysis headline, for sure. Probably. Probably. Someone reading this who actually is deaf certainly would appreciate it. Someone reading this who actually is deaf certainly would appreciate it. Well, that's not why I can't hear. Well, that's not why I can't hear. You know what's cool is that it. You know what's cool is that it. It actually functions as a regular hearing aid. It actually functions as a regular hearing aid. Right. Right. I'm reading in this article. I'm reading in this article. And, you can actually pair it with your phone to use the power of your phone's microphone. And, you can actually pair it with your phone to use the power of your phone's microphone. Sure. Sure. To amplify the ambience sound around you. To amplify the ambience sound around you. Which is great. Which is great. Which is awesome. Which is awesome. You kind of have your own little microphone now. You kind of have your own little microphone now. Yes. Yes. When you just, like, you could do. When you just, like, you could do. Like a conference call. Like a conference call. Stick it up to your face. Stick it up to your face. I almost want that. I almost want that. In New York restaurants or bars or things like that, where you have to shout at you're friend to sort of. In New York restaurants or bars or things like that, where you have to shout at you're friend to sort of. Right. Right. To be heard. To be heard. Sure. Sure. Or listen to someone. Or listen to someone. It'd be great if you could just have, like a private phone conversation with the person setting across from you like that. It'd be great if you could just have, like a private phone conversation with the person setting across from you like that. Right. Right. Its, it's a great idea. Its, it's a great idea. It really is. It really is. I'm surprised there aren't apps already, that do similar things, just with your headphones. I'm surprised there aren't apps already, that do similar things, just with your headphones. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. There's gotta be right? There's gotta be right? Probably. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. You know it's funny. You know it's funny. I was actually talking to Steve Gutenberg. I was actually talking to Steve Gutenberg. Who is not deaf. Who is not deaf. Who is not deaf. Who is not deaf. In fact, the opposite. In fact, the opposite. He has really good ears. He has really good ears. Yeah. Yeah. But I was talking to him and he pitched me a guest that I really wanna have on the show. But I was talking to him and he pitched me a guest that I really wanna have on the show. She's an audiologist that works about a. Maybe three or four blocks away from our office. She's an audiologist that works about a. Maybe three or four blocks away from our office. And he goes to her, he goes to her to get his hearing, checked and then also to get, hearing, what's it called? And he goes to her, he goes to her to get his hearing, checked and then also to get, hearing, what's it called? Mold. Mold. Earplugs. Earplugs. Yeah. Yeah. He got earplugs cuz obviously Steve needs to protect his ears. He got earplugs cuz obviously Steve needs to protect his ears. Of course. Of course. And he gets custom earplugs made from her, and she volunteered to come on the show and actually start the process of getting custom earplugs or earphones whichever ones you want. And he gets custom earplugs made from her, and she volunteered to come on the show and actually start the process of getting custom earplugs or earphones whichever ones you want. Oh, cool. Oh, cool. And she'll do that for us on the air. And she'll do that for us on the air. Let's do it. Let's do it. So I told them already like yeah we should definitely arrange that and we could talk to her about things like losing your hearing or what volumes not to reach if you want to preserve that. So I told them already like yeah we should definitely arrange that and we could talk to her about things like losing your hearing or what volumes not to reach if you want to preserve that. Alright. Alright. Have you noticed that on the subway they've started putting up those ads? Have you noticed that on the subway they've started putting up those ads? Have you see this Ariel? Have you see this Ariel? It's like ads that say. It's like ads that say. You may think that your music sounds good now. You may think that your music sounds good now. But what about when you can't hear anything in 20 years. But what about when you can't hear anything in 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. And it's basically wearing kids on the subway. And it's basically wearing kids on the subway. To turn down there music through headphones. To turn down there music through headphones. Do you think well have an epidemic. Do you think well have an epidemic. Of like very poor hearing. Of like very poor hearing. Definitely. Definitely. You do. You do. Yes definitely. Yes definitely. And then we'll just have to come out with a better hearing aid. And then we'll just have to come out with a better hearing aid. It's all part of the plan. It's all part of the plan. That's it's all. That's it's all. And then Apple with a hearing aid. And then Apple with a hearing aid. [LAUGH] Right. [LAUGH] Right. And well spend money on it. And well spend money on it. And will totally. And will totally. You know, tap into our You know, tap into our Yeah. Yeah. Young, you know, when we used to be able to hear stuff. Young, you know, when we used to be able to hear stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know man. I don't know man. I started thinking about that the other day. I started thinking about that the other day. Well. Well. Are we a generation of kids who'll be deaf by 50. Are we a generation of kids who'll be deaf by 50. Well, combined, that's not, it's not even just the music that you listen to in your headphones. Well, combined, that's not, it's not even just the music that you listen to in your headphones. It's the, live music too. It's the, live music too. Oh, I think it's a big part of it. Oh, I think it's a big part of it. You definitely went to go see a lot of live bands like me when I was young. You definitely went to go see a lot of live bands like me when I was young. Sure, yeah. Sure, yeah. And I'd always have no problem standing like this close to the speaker too. And I'd always have no problem standing like this close to the speaker too. I, after a while though I, I started to think like, okay, this, this. I, after a while though I, I started to think like, okay, this, this. It's ringing for 48 hours after or something. It's ringing for 48 hours after or something. Yeah, this isn't good. Yeah, this isn't good. Something tells me that ringing is not cool. Something tells me that ringing is not cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about it. Yeah. Yeah. What? What? Huh? Huh? [LAUGH]. [LAUGH]. Last thing I wanna show, before we leave for today, is, you weren't here to talk to Bridget about her weekend but, on Friday she was telling us that she, wa, was going to a dance over the weekend. Last thing I wanna show, before we leave for today, is, you weren't here to talk to Bridget about her weekend but, on Friday she was telling us that she, wa, was going to a dance over the weekend. What? What? And it was something that, I think. And it was something that, I think. You'd be into. You'd be into. It's a company that actually. It's a company that actually. It's called Barbecue Films. It's called Barbecue Films. And they recreate popular scenes from nostalgic movies like Ninja Turtles and, Back to the Future. And they recreate popular scenes from nostalgic movies like Ninja Turtles and, Back to the Future. So over. So over. Wait. Wait. So what did they create from Ninja Turtles? So what did they create from Ninja Turtles? They recreated that scene, where the foot clan hides out. They recreated that scene, where the foot clan hides out. The, the headquarters for the foot clan from the first movie. The, the headquarters for the foot clan from the first movie. Oh, like, the arcade? Oh, like, the arcade? Like [CROSSTALK] Like [CROSSTALK] Yeah. Yeah. And there's, like, a half ramp. And there's, like, a half ramp. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's cool. That's cool. And. And. Oh I wanna hang out there. Oh I wanna hang out there. It's, like, yeah. It's, like, yeah. Like, cigarettes getting traded for Walkman stereos. Like, cigarettes getting traded for Walkman stereos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And things like that. And things like that. So they recreated that. So they recreated that. Scene. Scene. I wanna go there, where was that? I wanna go there, where was that? It was sick, I did it somewhere in New York. It was sick, I did it somewhere in New York. Damn it! Damn it! Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I want them to the hackers scene where they go to the. I want them to the hackers scene where they go to the. Yeah. Yeah. Cyberdelia. Cyberdelia. Cafe and busted all those books, Cyberdelia. Cafe and busted all those books, Cyberdelia. Anyways so on Saturday, they re-created Hill Valley High School's Enchantment Under the Sea dance. Anyways so on Saturday, they re-created Hill Valley High School's Enchantment Under the Sea dance. Aw, no way. Aw, no way. From Back to the Future. From Back to the Future. That's very cool. That's very cool. Do we have photos? Do we have photos? Yeah, and, Bridget actually posted a bunch of photos, and it was basically a prom, but people got dressed up, to look exactly like some of the characters, like some of the characters, including Marty McFly. Yeah, and, Bridget actually posted a bunch of photos, and it was basically a prom, but people got dressed up, to look exactly like some of the characters, like some of the characters, including Marty McFly. So let's go through some of these. So let's go through some of these. Look at this. Look at this. This is George and Loraine. This is George and Loraine. They actually had specific characters coming. They actually had specific characters coming. Oh my God! Oh my God! That looks like a still out of the movie. That looks like a still out of the movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible. It's incredible. And they all of course had Marty McFly with the Gibson guitar. And they all of course had Marty McFly with the Gibson guitar. This is supposed to be Biff. This is supposed to be Biff. Biff, yeah. Biff, yeah. You know, and he was walking around with a, a bruise on his eye. You know, and he was walking around with a, a bruise on his eye. After he gets knocked out. After he gets knocked out. Bunch of manure in his mouth. Bunch of manure in his mouth. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Shoulda just walked around with manure in his mouth. Shoulda just walked around with manure in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Here's Bridget and her husband right in front of the Enchantment Under the Sea sign. Here's Bridget and her husband right in front of the Enchantment Under the Sea sign. That's so cool. That's so cool. Yup, more George McFly, look at this. Yup, more George McFly, look at this. You know who that is? You know who that is? I do not. I do not. Strickland! Strickland! Okay. Okay. Principal Strickland. Principal Strickland. Bald Strickland. Bald Strickland. [CROSSTALK] Holding a copy of Ooh La La. [CROSSTALK] Holding a copy of Ooh La La. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Wrapped in a grey sports almanac. Wrapped in a grey sports almanac. And then they have the whole band. And then they have the whole band. So where was this, because it doesn't look like it was too crowded. So where was this, because it doesn't look like it was too crowded. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Not as crowded as the original. Not as crowded as the original. Where the hell was this? Where the hell was this? It was at a sports gymnasium on Houseton and Lafayette. It was at a sports gymnasium on Houseton and Lafayette. Okay. Okay. So somewhere in. So somewhere in. Soho. Soho. You talk to Bridget about it, or no? You talk to Bridget about it, or no? I haven't talked to her about it yet. I haven't talked to her about it yet. I just was looking at her, I just was looking at her, Cuz it looks like there was five people there. Cuz it looks like there was five people there. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. Yeah. This is really cool. This is really cool. So, Biff actually came with a bunch of his henchmen. So, Biff actually came with a bunch of his henchmen. One of which was wearing these 3-D glasses. One of which was wearing these 3-D glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Was that Billy Zane that was wearing them? Was that Billy Zane that was wearing them? Yeah. Yeah. That was Billy Zane. That was Billy Zane. No way. No way. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, here he is with his goons. So yeah, here he is with his goons. Cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was kinda cool. I thought that was kinda cool. That is sick, I like that. That is sick, I like that. And super nerdy. And super nerdy. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] I wanna go to the Ninja Turtles one though. I wanna go to the Ninja Turtles one though. Yeah. Yeah. That's gonna do it for us today. That's gonna do it for us today. 866.404. 866.404. CNET. CNET. That's a habit that I can't break. That's a habit that I can't break. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna do that soon. We're gonna do that soon. Just not yet. 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