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The 404: Ep. 1432: Where we tell him about the Twinkie
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The 404: Ep. 1432: Where we tell him about the Twinkie

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Today we're living on the edge and dangling our jobs in front of our face with our guest Jim Lanzone, the President and CEO of CBS Interactive. We'll talk about our favorite Harold Ramis moments, the new Samsung Galaxy S5, selfies causing an uptick in head lice, and an app that automatically sends your S.O. a message while you're out with the bros.

-What's going on everyone? It's Tuesday, February 25th, 2014. This is The 404 Show on CNET. I'm Jeff Bakalar. -And I'm Justin Yu. -We got Ariel Nuñez back there running the board, wave hi to Ariel. Hi, Ariel. How are you? So, you know, we like to look pretty dangerously on this program. By doing that, I mean, dangling our jobs in front of ourselves because we've decided to bring the President and CEO of CBS Interactive on the program Mr. Jim Lanzone. Thank you, sir. Thank you for being here. -You better step it up boys. You better step it up. -This will be the best-- -Including you guys back there. Let's go. -Absolutely. -Any game today. -Chop-chop. -Any game. -Thank you for being here sir. -Thank you for having me-- -Yeah. -this beautiful studio that I helped paid for. -Yeah. -It's amazing. This is your textiles gone to work. -I know. And you've actually been with us since the beginning when we were at the other studios, so you could see the improvement here. -So what do you think man? -It's huge. -I can agreed in this one. -How do you like-- -That's awesome, first of all-- -It's asbestos-free. -some rich mahogany here. -Right? It smells of rich mahogany. -Yeah, I need a jazz flute and we're all good and we can start going, so I approve. It's great. -We do need like the burgundy theme, some leather-bound books perhaps. -Sure. -To really tie the whole room together. -I like how you're displaying your cartridges that you play. -Right. -Yeah. -From my youth. -Oh, those are not current? -No. You're not a big gamer. -I thought that was like your thing. No, I thought that was Titanfall and that's Assassins' Creed right there. -No, that's not. No, you clearly have, you know, you run GameSpot. You know a lot about video games, that's fantastic, very encouraging. -You're welcome. -So we got a lot to talk about today. We have a bunch of stories we'll get to. We wanna pay tribute to Harold Ramis because we know how big of a fan you are of his in his work, right? -Is that why? -You are and obviously we have to pay tribute. -Right. -To such a fine gentleman. -I didn't know it was-- so I was surprised it was him by the way. -Oh, like the first Ghostbusters? -When I heard some, I was in the cab on the way here from the airport yesterday and I heard on the radio something about someone dying and then they mentioned Crossing the Streams. So I go, oh, it's one of the Ghostbusters' so I thought of course-- -Who do you think would die first? -Dan Aykroyd. -So you think Dan Aykroyd next? -That's what I thought. You know that's-- I'm not saying he's next. The thing is going-- -Let's just make it a bit slower doing this. -I-- that was my initial thought, it was Dan Aykroyd. He doesn't look the healthiest. -I mean-- -I didn't know Harold Ramis was not feeling well, so-- -I didn't know he was suffering from his ailment. -It's a huge lost. -It's a huge lost and I just-- I don't know man. This one hurts, you know. -Caddyshack, Animal House, Stripes-- -Multiplicity-- my favorite. -The more-- -That Michael Keaton? -Yeah. It gets better every time you watch it. -He directed Multiplicity. -Yeah. -I learned something today. I didn't know that. -Amazing. -Groundhog Day. -Groundhog Day. -[unk] some stickers too that we don't know about it. -Yeah, like that Year One movie with Jack Black and Michael Cera? -Oh, that was bad. -I'm gonna sweep that under the rug a little bit perhaps. -I think when you've done Caddyshack, Animal House and Stripes, it's in pretty much-- you can just-- that's like dropper. -And a lot of people-- I feel like a lot of people didn't know that. They didn't know that he wrote and directed Caddyshack. -Uh-hmm. -And I think that's something that obviously, you know, unfortunately it takes the death of someone before you really find out more about it. And I guess-- -Can I make an admission right now before we go any further? Before Jeff oust me 'cause I know he's about to. -This is just-- -I haven't seen Caddyshack. I know, I'm sorry. -Every action is so genuine and pure and that is the exact same thing I had. -Everyone does that. I know. -Did that just happen? -It just happened. -Should we pause the show for two hours? -No, no, not even. It's like 80 minutes. -Really? -How do you-- -I don't know. I just made it. This is an intervention in my life without watching that movie. But now I have to now that-- -Caddyshack-- -I've seen so many of his other movies, the Airheads. -Airheads? -Not quite as good but that was directed by Harold Ramis. -The-- with Adam Sandler? -Yeah. -He did, have you seen Airheads? -Uh-hmm. -I don't believe that. I'm looking that up right now. -Yeah, look that up. -Airheads with Brendan Fraser with Steve Buscemi. -Yeah. -You've never seen that? -I have not. I know, know that-- -Unbelievable. -Yeah. -Either way I need to see most of his movies. -That's crazy. When I first heard that I thought you had like, I like lost a weird bet or something. -Yeah, I know. Works at Canon. I have a cued up. -This is basically the view isn't it. -This is a view for just a bunch of guys talking about-- -Yeah, yeah. -you know, pop culture. -This is a guy's view. -And technology-- it's got a view. So, yeah, we want to, and obviously, our listeners were saying, we would like for you to pay tribute to Mr. Ramis and obviously, if we had something we would pour one out for him right here. -This one-- for me, growing up with Ghostbusters, it's like, "Man, like one of the Ghostbusters died and to me like, you know, the 11-year-old in me cries a little bit. It's something-- it's a major deal. -Uh-hmm. -What is your favorite Harold Ramis moment or movie, what is it? -Well movie, I mean-- 'cause I've scientifically analyzes the Caddyshack is the funniest movie of all time. -The funniest film ever made, yeah. That goes without saying. -And if you put it up against others and you watch them back and forth you'll find that. So, movie is definitely that, I mean-- I don't know. It's just there's too many. -Uh-hmm. -It just troubles me that you still have not seen it. If you had to-- but you've seen other Harold Ramis' films. -Of course, yeah definitely. -People forget like he played Seth Rogen's Dad in Knocked Up. -Yeah. -He was also in Orange County. He played the Dean of Princeton. -Right. -He did a lot. He did not do Airheads you crazy ass. -He was involved somehow in Airheads. -I think he was involved. I think-- -He didn't direct or write it. He didn't direct or write it. -Yeah, I remember reading something involved with Airheads. -Produced it maybe. -It was him that made it cool. -Okay, anyway. We pay tribute to how Ramis. Send us an e-mail to the404@cnet.com and we'll go over some of your guy's favorite Harold Ramis' movies for the next show. All right. Let's get into the tech stuff. Big things going on Mobile World Congress out in Barcelona, Spain. We basically got half of our office out there. They're doing their thing. We'll talk obviously about the biggest news, the Galaxy S5, I want to talk about that. I, myself, I'm a big-- sort of Android guy. This really sparked my interest. What the-- have you-- are-- have you seen the phone? Do you think it's worth-- -I saw just 'cause I reviewed it. -Right. I mean, how do you feeling about it? -Well, it's not a full review yet. -Yeah. -So, I don't know. People in Barcelona holding it. It doesn't sound-- and it didn't seems like the Apple launches where there have been modest upgrades and not revolutionary. -It looks a lot like the Samsung S4 still, who has that plastic backing. -Yeah. -I mean this is happening on each side of the field, right? So you have Apple, come out with this incremental updates that everyone just chokes up to being underwhelmed. But, you know, and I talked to my buddies last night in my hockey and I'm like, "Hey, you know, did you see the S5? Are you excited about it?" And everyone just like, "I wanted more. -Yeah. -What else do you want from this phone? -True. Certain point, what else can you do that's like that much of a-- -Like what feature-- and I go, what feature are you missing from this phone besides, you know, wiping your ass really, that you-- -That's what Jeff wants. -Right. -Well, I mean, look-- -You could do that now, you just have to clean it off every time. -It is waterproof. But I mean like what else do you want out of a cellphone? -I remember when that S4 came out, it was-- had so many of those gimmicky features on it and that's what people really complain about with their launch was that there is a feature that let you turn a page on your e-reader just by shaking the phone. -Yeah. -And remember it would look at your eyes-- -Right. -to sort of see when you were looking at it and it would display a new information. -Have you noticed like that's not like headline stuff anymore? -Yeah, 'cause people don't really care about stuffs like that. -The thumb print, security feature on Apple really was a game changer-- -Yeah, for sure. -for convenience. But-- and then apple doesn't have bigger screen. -Yeah. -So that's the other thing that gotta come that way. -Yeah, I think-- -Does this have the thumb print? -This has the thumb print reader, yeah. -Yes, yes. It's huge and I've been using it. I mean, I also think that thumb print-- where is it on the iPad? How it's not on the iPad Air? -Right. -It's kind of like a bomb head thing. But yeah, I just-- for me, the thing I hear all the time and then I say, "Well, what do you want?" And they're like, "I don't know. I just want something bigger and better. I don't know. It is gotta be better." And I'm just like, "Well, what do you want? It's freaking fast. It's the-- it'll be the fastest Android phone ever made as far as I can tell." -Yeah. -So it's very interesting to see how this plays out when our crew gets back from Barcelona. Hopefully we'll have this unit in hand. -Yeah. -And we'll get to do with deeper dive. -Something that they released was a new version of the Galaxy Gear watch. -Yeah. -And the new S5. I believe it comes of a lot of sort of fitness tracking apps. -Yeah. -Have you gotten into that? I mean that's definitely the biggest tech in this year. -Oh, yeah? So, has it made you fitter? -I'm really-- it's made me more conscious of not being fitter. -So it's just like racing your way-- -In New York, it's really useful 'cause you walk a lot. -Yeah. -In California, you only drive. So-- -Yeah. It's just like you got in a car seven times. -Yeah, you're a lazy-- -Yes. -Yeah. -So what do you think? I maintain-- -I think it's great. Honestly, I've been using it since Christmas and the Fitbit-- my buddies, they had a product there. So I kinda seemed to have early-- just having like a watch and they can more visual is actually a good breakthrough for Fitbit, I thought. -Sure, yeah. -I don't know. I'm interested in the Apple One. -Yeah. -It's been a while. -It's taking a very long time. -I'm kind of interested in like what exactly-- 'cause this doesn't take your pulse, so maybe they have that. I don't know. -So the S5 is gonna have the heart beat monitor in it, which I guess you just sort of use with the thumb thin on the back. -Uh-hmm. -Are you like me where you remain skeptical about that? -My buddy had the Samsung watch in a dinner doing like, I kept leaning over to him-- just tapping the screen. But, anyway-- it's just I don't want something that big in my wrist. -Yeah. So the Gear is called, what they're calling? The Gear Fit? -Yeah, I think so. -So that's-- -That's Samsung. -Samsung wearable-- -Yeah. -it's a little device. -Uh-hmm. -Best feature though. It tracks your phone. So if you lose your phone, I guess you could always just call your phone from another phone. But it actually has a thing where you can find your phone from the thing which is-- -That's the best thing? -It's such a no-brainer. It's like where the hell is that? I don't know. It's a little things man. -Yeah. -It's a little-- -Our expectations. -The bar is low for Jeff, okay? I'm just psyched, we got our phones man. -Yeah, that's good, good for you. -Here's some of the more wackier stuff we found on the internet today. -Oh, this one is kinda gross. Can we get to the selfies stories? -Yeah, please. It's amazing. -So, selfie is obviously hugely popular right now. Everyone is taking them. Although taking pictures of yourself not a new thing. -No. -I think just the term is new. -People been doing that since the invention of-- -Right. -Let's just get that out there. -I'm pretty sure that's the reason why camera's-- -Before they open their camera on a car and then running back. -Yeah. -And then having that little like click-- -Damn, I didn't get on time. -Right. -They have to load the gun powder back into the flash, whatever the hell that is. -There's that one guy holding up that thing. -My only understanding of old timey photography is back to the future three. -Right. -I guess the only way I understand. -Like a light bulb would break every time you take a photo. -Well, they like put some sort of powder in a flash device. -And we're [unk] violated the one thing he told Marty not to do. -Right. -Don't change the past [unk] and has kids. -No one should know too much about it. -Right, right. And then the whole movie is based on his f-up. -Right. -Well done Marty. -That's it, that's it. Good job Marty, you slick bastard. -Selfies usually popular but unfortunately, they're maybe contributing to an outbreak of headlights among young people. -Make sense. -God, young people are so dirty. -They're disgusting. -Their hair, they have really big hair and-- -I think that's-- -It's really, really bad. -Yeah, he shots like a [unk] is on. -That's coming off my face. -You're learning a lot today. -The set man. -You said you could see everything. -We've only been here like three months and now we're-- -[unk] one of those rollers. -Out roller. -I think we [unk] with red over there. It's empty though. According to Marcy McQuillan, she runs a head lice purification studio out in California, that's her words. She's noticing an uptick and head lice and she suspects with young people it's because they're leaning in together and touching their heads while they take selfies. -Or because they're not all like making out and rubbing up against each other. -Could be that too. -It's just the selfies that are doing it. -It could be. Is that what happened with you on high school. -I mean, come on dude. Let's be realistic here. -You're going around. -We were like touching heads like that? It's not just from selfies. It's not-- why are you looking at me with the grin? -I think this lice topic is like a real, real winner. -We're talking about the important breaking news in the 404. -Yeah, exactly. -We just have lice outbreak in our house. -Really? -One of my kids brought it home from school. -Jesus. -So everybody in the house had to use this shampoo called Love Bugs to get rid of-- it's terrible. -Yeah. It reminds me to just really get up and close-- -Yeah, it was a while ago. -I remember when I was young, my mom took me to the bull pit at McDonald's and I got lice from there. And after that, I never went into another one of those things. -That's disgusting man. -They're crawling with little [unk]. -That is just a petri dish -Yeah, it's disgusting. -Is there a lice in the Star Wars helmet? -There might be. -I haven't thought of it twice. I did. I was gonna put it on and then I kind of-- -Oh, wait a minute. -Look for it out before you do. -It's not your first [unk] man. You're better on the block. Finally, come on, let's talk about the one thing that is gonna make everyone nauseous with the internet. -Oh, this picture. -That lice and this? -What? This is what you want-- this. They've put this on the run down. -I didn't wanna talk about one photo here but I was talking about the Bro app. -Oh, okay yeah. -We should go to that. -Absolutely, let's skip this one and go to the Bro app. -We'll come back around. -So there's a new app right now it's called Bro app. And it's very simple in its functionality. All it does, it sends automated sweet text messages to your girlfriend/significant other, sort to give you more time to hang out with the dudes. So why you're out, you can program this to send pre-written texts to your wife, to your girlfriend, whatever saying, "Hey, I love you Sweetie." -Yeah. -I think it does it in a girlfriend voice too. I mean this is your voice couple octaves with texts. And so it's basically to make sure that she knows that you're okay and you're thinking about her even when you might not be. -So I have a question about how this works. -Yeah. -So I just personally don't think that the Bro, like that typical-- stereotypical sort of dude-- -Yeah. -is the kind of guy who would have the foresight to like protect himself from entering a situation where he's in trouble with his significant other. -Right. -That's not the way the bro thinks. The bro just does. He doesn't prepare. He doesn't protect himself from what's waiting for him at home. -I agree. -You agree with me. -And I think the kind of girl who would date a guy, who would be using that app is probably-- she's probably already on Tinder like she's getting text while she's on Tinder. -Right. -Yeah. She's already ahead of the game. -Swipe left-- -Yeah, there's no way-- I mean, there's just no way that she's-- -She's not. -Right. -I mean if you're the type of person that just doesn't realize you're getting canned messages, you know, that's the most-- -She deserved-- to do with the Bro app. -Yeah. They really thought about all the details here though. One thing I think is pretty cool is you can input your girlfriend's Wi-Fi password and it'll know when you're insider her house so it won't send a canned message while you're next to her eating dinner. -Right. -That sounds foolproof. -Yes, seriously. -There's nothing that you go wrong. -What a disaster. -I wanna hear from someone who's actually use this. Also, I suspect that it's just a PR campaign for something, I don't know what. -Yeah. -It's [unk] advertising? -Yeah. It's for Axe Body Spray. -Yeah, for sure. -Do you guys have a native advertising? -Native advertising? -Native, is there any kind of content. -Integration of 404? -Or marketing happening here? -Occasionally we do have some stuff where we just chill. -Okay. [unk] if there's any happen and-- -Oh, we can't. We're illegally not allowed to with you here. -Okay. -It's a strange loop hole or sort of, you know, that's your fault. We're gonna blame you for that. -Always. -And fine before we talk maybe perhaps a little more shop about CBS Interactive. I do wanna bring up a photograph that you yourself chose as your Twitter profile picture. And I would like for you to go through this image if you could bring this up here on the screen. Okay, so what exactly was going through your head-- -I don't know. You don't show the first one. You don't show my background? -What's your background? -which is all equally awesome. -For people that are-- oh, wow. -Well, the background is the poster for the Star Wars Christmas special which was on CBS in 1977. -Oh, sick. Okay, so you-- that's still doesn't-- -That starred Bea Arthur. -It is, right there. -Bea Arthur. -So it's awesome. -She got a little verified-- -So, yeah. She's verified mod. -Nice. -That minks. -So the coolness of that banner does not negate the profile further though. -Yeah. -So for the video listeners, can someone describe what we're looking at? -So here we're looking Mr. Lanzone in, what kind of vehicle is that? -So that would be 280 ZX with T tops. -Okay, yeah. Turbo T top. -Turbo. -Very sick. -Turbo. -So only [unk] and that thing. -You know, off the used car market probably out of like auto traders or something from 7 Eleven. -And you like kept it-- -That's 1988. -So did you keep it rolled up in your back pocket and everyone you'd meet-- -That is the odd. -Look what I'm gonna freaking buy. -That is not the-- -Why? -Why there pictures-- I mean, it is there because I'm looking like I think I'm awesome. P.S., I'm pretty sure like my parents took that picture. -Oh, I'm not saying that didn't happen. -Well the best thing going on that picture is the hockey mullet. -Well, I was just gonna-- -I like that. -we wanna bring that up, that beautiful-- -That's right. -those beautiful locks. -It's so 80's. -It's amazing. You've got this, first of that grin is on-- -'Cause I get the Italian, you know, Fro going. -Sure. -I can't-- I couldn't grow a real, you know, Andre. Well, I guess he was Italian. I couldn't grow like a real mullet. -Right. And he was a freaking wig anyway. -Oh, I wasn't? Okay. Well, that is a real, you know, whatever. -That is real. -It looks great under like a baseball hat. -Oh, I'm sure. Just with that flip in the back. -All the girls, you know, loved it. -Wearing like a giant's hat, I'm sure. They must come and running. -Yeah. It was just-- it's a-- I chose that simply because of how bad it is. -Right, excellent. All right. -Yeah. -Well that's good. -Is that a good reason? -No, that's the reason I wanted to hear. I'm glad you did that. -Yeah. I had Blazing Saddles before that. -Oh, where did you ever met? -It's just kinda shows. It's a picture of-- it's some-- it was a picture of Gene Wilder and said-- some people call me Jim, but you can just call me Jim. -Jim, nice. My favorite part of that film is when he's in the prison with Bart, the Sheriff and he's going him and he says, he shows him his hand and then Bart go steady as a rock and then he goes, "Yeah, but I shoot with this head." That's the-- that could be the greatest film. That's another film definitely. No way he doesn't seem-- -I changed this [unk]. You know, I do change it very frequently. -Yeah. -So I was just doing this up there just to mock myself. But my best [unk] was the one with Dawson from Dawson's Creek where he's crying. -Yeah. -I could never get sick of that one. -Look at those eyes man. So you're in town only for a few days and you're here doing a series of small hands which I like saying that for Austin Powers. -Wasn't that good? -Yeah. -Have you seen, you know, the line I'm talking about? He's making fun of circus people and he's like, "I don't like circus people, small hands." -No-- oh, yeah. -Small little cabbage. I wanna know like-- -Yeah. -So you're doing this whole tour. -Yes. -You know, a lot-- -I'm doing this CBS Interactive tour right now. -Right. A big section of this presentation talks about the future of CBS Interactive. -Right. -And, you know, you have a sly words like, "Man, there's a lot of freaking subsidiaries here." There's a lot of-- -Do your viewers know what the CBS part of all this? -Oh, yeah. -Is that logo spreads everywhere? -It's very obvious. -It's kind of-- -It's there. -sub lumen. -I don't think they realize how many different companies CBS I incorporates like-- -Yeah, encompasses. -So-- -Metrolyrics? I didn't realize that until the presentation today actually. Yeah, I was surprised. I'm impressed by that. -Urban Baby. -Yeah, I like Urban Baby -By the way, we were at Jeopardy question last year. -Oh, really? -That said the answer was, well the question was something about internet businesses own by CBS and it had LastFM and Urban Baby. -Really? -Oh, nice. -Those are the two. -What question was it like what prize? -I can't remember. But it was about what CBS own. But anyway, so yeah, so we own a lot of stuff and we're the ninth largest internet company in the world by total users. I'm sorry, ninth in the U.S. fourteenth world-wide. And so, with all the CBS brands like CBS.com, CBS Sports, CBS News, Sixty Minutes, all that. -Uh-hmm. -And then we have all the Consumer Non-CBS properties like CNET and LastFM. We just bought TV Guide last June, as you guys know. -Pretty awesome. -GameSpot on the video game side and Metrolyrics and Chow, you know, lot of other ones like that. And then, you know, there's over 40 of these brands. They were-- we have a big presence in China, which is another thing people don't know about us. -Amazing. -Yeah. -And it's like not-- it's a massive presence there. -We're the biggest internet company in China. It's over 200 million users a month and it's these three main sites that one is called ZOL kinda like AOL, but ZOL which is basically the CNET of China. -Right. -XCar, which is a huge auto site and then OnlyLady, which is a big fashion community site. -OnlyLady. -OnlyLady. -I like it. -I wanna be on. -Yeah. -Someone in the office also told me that we own [unk]. Is that true? I think Andrew Handler one of our sales guys told me about that. -Oh, my God that's [unk]. -And I wanted-- -We use [unk] we no longer own [unk]. -We sold it for a lot. -We sold it. -Yeah. -Yeah, we sold it. -I mean it's incredible that we own MP3.com too. Do we still have that? -We do technically still own that. -That's so amazing. We have all these-- -Awesome urls. -Yeah. -The originals. -Yes. -Search.com. -Really? We have only have like Internet.com. -We have a lot. -That's cool. -Yeah. -So a big portion of your presentation is about the future in, you know, a few sentences, can you sort of wrap our listeners heads around what they can expect from CBS Interactive as a whole. Obviously, it's fragmented. There's a lot of little sort of, you know, entries in the big picture. -Right. -But, you know, you sort of preach this a little bit. Can you sort of wrap that up for us? -Yeah, just what's working and we had an all-time great year last year in our every metric for us was up into the right. -Yeah. -Which is unusual, I think for a content company in 2014 that's not, you know, venture-funded. -Exactly. -I mean, we're-- in some case, it's the CNET's 20 years old. I mean, and we're part of a public company and, you know, real financials and real numbers deliver and things like that but, you know, I think it's because we have. I mean, everybody is calling themselves premium content. -Right. -When you're at this point. And, you know, I think CBS Interactive and what makes it work is that it really is premium. -Sure. -So I don't come up with the word for would. Super premium-- whatever that is. -Ultra uber premium. -Ultra uber premium content. That's the strategy. -So U.U.P. -Yeah. But when you have-- it's obvious on CBS side when you have the Super Bowl. -Of course. -And How I Met Your Mother and Sixty Minutes. But, you know, CNET in its category is just massive. -Right. -It's a massive consumer property. It's not an industry trade. It's to just consumers, the number one brand in tech for consumers. That's a very, you know, attractive place for an advertisers to be where people are making decisions about what to buy in consumer electronics. -Right. -It's why we bought TV Guide. It's where people are making decisions about which shows to watch. -Sure. -And, you know, we tend to get properties that are, you know, kind of in that range because the alternative is that you're just more stuff out there. -Right. -And the internet does not lack for volume of content. -Sure. -And advertisers do not lack for volume of places to advertise. So the enemy is abundant and the way that you stand out in that is by having, you know, one of these two ultra uber premium-- -You got it. You got it. -types of sites, right, either in the quality of content side or owning a top brand in a very, very important vertical. So, you know, that's what we've done. Last year, we-- you know, expand about buying TV Guide. We launch CNET Appliances. We launched CNET in Español. We launched a verge, you know, we took the name XCar from China. We turned it into a-- you know, basically an auto porn-- -Right. -in the U.S. and so we just keep expanding into-- not with real porn. -I was just gonna say like, I never really thought about it. -That's what people who like to watch videos of cars. -I mean, you could say CNET is gadget porn. I mean, it's the-- -Yeah. That's how I meant it. -We're pornographers. -To clarify, that's how I meant it. -Right. We're getting to something. We're just a bunch of pornographers. -Yeah, that's right. -Nothing is wrong with that. -We are vertical right. So-- no we're not. I do not mean that. -No, no, no-- yeah. -Yeah, but look, that's what's working and, you know, we've been growing at a double-digit clip and I think that's very unusual in our space and I think that's why. -Excellent. All right. Well, there you have it. -Yeah. -Beautiful. Thank you [unk]. -So if you guys need to keep it up. -Yeah, I know. -Seriously. -We'll do. It's happening. I mean, come on. -Right. -And we do it by having guys like you on the show. -You know, thank you for another year after this. -This is it. I work here as dumb. Thanks so much for being here man. Always a pleasure seeing you. -Thank you. -Thanks for coming by. Do yourself a favor, follow Jim on Twitter. He's a blast to follow at @JLanzone. You'll come back next time you're in New York? -Yeah, with three more Twitter followers. -Three is a lot man. Twitter followers, don't crawl on trees. -Thank you Jeff. -You know-- -You could thank Jeff, Justin and Ariel for those three. I think that's your growth right there. -All right. -Wait, you weren't already following me? -I was already following you. These guys don't. -I made another account. -The show is over. -He put his foot down. -Funding is gone. -That's it. Take the studio down right now. Give us an e-mail, the404@cnet.com. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and obviously the most popular portion of our off site interactivity. Our sub Reddit-- you know our sub Reddit? We got it almost 2000 followers. -Do you really? -Yeah, dude. -Is it just went to like mean generating stuff-- -There's a lot of that. -the baby photos. -Some of that but like-- -Man, people find some interesting photos of us on the internet. We'll just leave it like that. So we'll do that. Make sure you do that and we're back here tomorrow with Dr. Josh King who's gonna talk to us about that internet addiction and how as an actual real issue. And I'll get those questions you-- -That gadget porn-- -We'll do that. -Unless you guys-- -Addicted to gadget porn. -We'll see you guys tomorrow. Until then. I'm Jeff Bakalar. -And I'm Justin Yu. -This has been The 404 Show. High tech, lowbrow. Have an awesome day. See you tomorrow.

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