Buzz Out Loud Podcast 1144: What's Google really doing in China?

Due to some Gmail attacks, Google has said it will remove its filters and possibly pull out of China altogether. There's definitely a lot more going on behind the scenes of this than we know.

Due to some Gmail attacks, Google has said it will remove its filters and possibly pull out of China altogether. There's definitely a lot more going on behind the scenes of this than we know, but we try to get to the heart of the matter as the nation of China negotiates with the nation of Google. We also discuss Facebook's requirement that you scan your hard drive to reactivate a hacked account, and we look forward to Martians coming this year. Yay for Martians!

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EPISODE 1144

Online masses text to offer Haitian quake relief
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10433964-36.html
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/01/haiti_earthquake_how_to_help_a.html?ft=1&f=103943429

Assessing Google’s showdown with China: Does it make sense?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=29457
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-01/13/content_9316162.htm

Doubting the sincerity of Google’s threat
http://neteffect.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/01/13/doubting_the_sincerity_of_googles_threat

Default https access for Gmail
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/default-https-access-for-gmail.html

Infected PCs won’t be allowed on Facebook
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358015,00.asp
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/facebook-joins-with-mcafee-to-clean-up-malware-on-site/

Nintendo Wii to add Netflix service for streaming video
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/technology/companies/13netflix.html

Google's Nexus One phone sells a mere 20,000 in its first week
http://mobile.venturebeat.com/2010/01/13/googles-nexus-one-phone-sells-a-mere-20000-in-its-first-week/

Sprint rumored to erect WiMax towers on all Wal-Marts
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/01/12/rumor-sprint-working-with-walmart-on-wimax-build-out/

Docs seek to stifle patients' rants on Web sites
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34794632/ns/health-health_care/

Software testing firm says no to responsible disclosure
http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=8702
http://www.scmagazineus.com/businesses-must-realize-that-full-disclosure-is-dead/article/99590/

Proof of Martians to come this year
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=proof-of-martians-to-come-this-year-2010-01

VOICE MAIL
Anders from Copenhagen On the Google ads

E-MAIL
Hey gang.

I was listening to your podcast about Google maps selling ad space and I have two concerns about this. I’m a visual effects artist in feature films and both my concerns are based on past experience.

1: Google might get in trouble if they sell ads on a billboard if someone has purchased that same space in real life. Imagine if a sign has an Apple ad that you can see in street view. But the ad is old. So Google comes along and sells it to Coke. At the same time the real billboard has been bought buy Pepsi. This happened in a movie I worked on when the director ask to replace some of the signs in Times Square with fake ads. Legal came back and said we couldn’t because those signs are owned by someone else and we need their permission to do so.

2: Google street view is just a series of compressed, blurry images. To make it look authentic you would have to make the new ads blurry and compressed. If you don’t it will just look stupid and fake. But what company would pay for such poor quality ad space.

Just my input. One a side note, I’ve been listening to you guys since Ep. 148 and it never gets old.

Take care,
Wayne, The VFX artist, Montreal Canada

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Hey guys,

Regarding Google and their scanning of books in China, Tom made a point about not being sure whether it was actually wrong for Google to be making these scans for indexing purposes in the first place. Just wanted to make one point: Google purports to want to “organize the world’s information”. One of the ways they do this is by crawling through the Internet — in essence, “scanning” web pages — and indexing the information online. The thing is, if I don’t want to be a part of this service, I can modify my robots file and exclude my website from this service. If Google recognizes an author’s right to keep their web-based content out of their indexing service, why not the paper-based media as well?

Of course, I suppose that the robots file isn’t a Google creation and so is more something that they have to live with, rather than a conscious choice on their part, so the analogy breaks down a little there. Still, it seems a bit like a double-standard, doesn’t it?

Harry in Virginia

 

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