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worst Christmas sales season in years?

by Roger NC / December 27, 2012 / 4:17 AM UTC

Sandy was a probably a lot.

The school shooting may have dampened enthusiasm.

Fear of the fiscal cliff, esp drummed into everyone every news cast, probably had as much to do with as either did. Maybe no more, but probably as much.

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From what was aired on news I saw yesterday
by Steven Haninger / December 27, 2012 / 5:27 AM UTC

it was just that sales didn't increase by as much as in years past. They didn't decrease either. The report also said that final figures were not in. In any event, it won't change my plans for today or tomorrow.

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As I understand it, about 50% of the year's sales occur
by Ziks511 / December 27, 2012 / 8:15 PM UTC

between Nov. 20 and the end of December. Perhaps it is saging this year because of Sandy, and general economic unhappiness. It is to be hoped that it will pick up in a year or two as the worst of the depression lifts. Always assuming it does that is.

Rob

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Saging sales
by James Denison / December 27, 2012 / 8:22 PM UTC

just need more thyme.

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People are preparing instead
by TONI H / December 28, 2012 / 2:07 AM UTC

for the 'new' recession that's coming in the next few months.......

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ironically, preparing for such can also insure such
by Roger NC / December 29, 2012 / 8:18 AM UTC

at least short term.

Don't get me wrong, people need to consider the near future probabilities as well as long term. For several decades we, Americans, have ignored planning for the future too often and too much. Some live paycheck to paycheck because it takes everything to get by. Others do it because they're not willing to wait for anything. Probably all of us have bought something sometime that cost more than we should have spent at that time. Too often the last 40 years people bought whatever whenever it struck their fancy, by any means available, even borrying to pay off loans.

It is true too that too much caution and fear will cause people to cut back so much the fear is self-fulling. Frugality can cause sales to decrease to the point that layoff occur, more people spend less, and spiraling begins.

That said, I can't fault anyone, indeed encourage people to try to save a little more. I've noticed the recommendation for emergency funds seems to have changed from 6 months income to 8 months lately by tv experts that supposely know more than you and I. Of course, they make their money because people believe they have the answer.

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What do you expect?
by Diana Forum moderator / December 31, 2012 / 6:31 AM UTC

The newies are talking about going over the fiscal cliff and the typical family will be paying about $3500 more in taxes and the ss going up and farmers and others losing their subsidies and extended unemployment disappearing and so forth and so forth and so forth. Did retail and the government really expect them to make Christmas a big blowout?

Diana

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