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Windows 98 on Windows Server 2000 ctl alt delete problem

by l5r1z2 / June 27, 2013 6:08 AM PDT

We are ready to replace our old Windows 2000 server. It is basically left unattended and screen off. The operating system is Windows 98. We access all programs from our desktop but never us the server machine for anything else.

I went to back up the server to prepare for a new one and I am stuck on the screen to hit control, alt delete to get in.

It does not recognize the keyboard. I have tried starting over and over with PS2 keyboard F8 or holding down control does not work.

Is there a way to by pass the keyboard. The mouse works fine.

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Re: server
by Kees_B Forum moderator / June 27, 2013 6:17 AM PDT

You can't run an OS (Windows 98) in another OS (Windows 2000). So part of your post isn't clear.

And some question to understand the situation:
- Why do you have a server?
- What kind of files are on the server?
- How do you access those files?
- Why do you want to have a backup of those files?
- What device do you want to backup to?

Kees

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Re: Server is Windows 2000
by l5r1z2 / June 27, 2013 7:19 AM PDT
In reply to: Re: server

This is a Dell Dimension 3000 purchased 10/2005 The it is a Windows Server 2000. I read the service tag and it does have Windows 2000 as an operating system. I can't get in and I thought it was Windows 98 but I see your question as to my mistake.

We have a network and our estimating system is on the server. It is a Multimicrosystems Cahill system that we all access thru our desktops. 5 in the network. We can share pricing and job folders this is our company billing, invoicing estimating and ordering and communications with factories. It is owned by us and maintained by our office. We are upgrading to a new server but I want to be able to back it up externally. Can I put a disk in and run something from my desktop?

I'm afraid it will die any minute and want to back up to an external hard drive in case that happens. I tried a couple months ago with a Buffalo 1TN unit but the operating system was to old and not compatible. I was able to get in at that time and knew the operating system was out dated. Now I am trying again and I don't even get desk top icons anymore, just the screen that says Windows Server 2000 "press control, alt delete" to begin. I have a different external hard disk now that I want to create a back up with. Passport 1TB but it says compatible with NTFS. I wondered if there was a way to back up the server thru my desktop. I think it only backs up the hard drive on the desktop and would not include drive :Z which is my server. It would be great if it would but I believe it is probably a security issue if that were possible.

So...I am trying to open and the keyboard is not being recognized. I'm not sure if something has gotten to the drivers and is not seeing it but when I re-start, the lights flash on the keyboard and it works on another computer.

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Re: backup
by Kees_B Forum moderator / June 28, 2013 5:38 AM PDT

If that is drive z:, you should be able to copy everything on that drive (everything to which you have read access) to your own PC (or to an external hard disk connected to it, if the internal hard disk isn't big enough) using Windows Explorer. No need for any special backup software.

But if it's an information system for your company, don't you do a daily or weekly backup already?

Kees

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Small world.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 28, 2013 1:22 AM PDT

I ran Windows 2000 both the Server and Workstation version for many years.

The problem is that there were so many variations in the hardware back then that I can't tell if your PC has a bootable CD so the issue of the dead keyboard is going to take a good, possibly gray haired IT consultant.

-> AGAIN, the exact configuration of this server must be known for this consultant to plan what to do next.

I'm sure you had folk set all this up so they are your best resource. If you parted with them on some issue, it may be time to mend the fences and have a talk with them. Or find a good local consultant.

Many ran Windows 2000 and will know what to do next to get files out. However that doesn't mean it will migrate to the new server. Your consultant will take an assessment and hopefully craft a migration plan.
Bob

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Downloaded Drivers from Dell to CD and got into Safe Mode
by l5r1z2 / June 30, 2013 11:45 PM PDT
In reply to: Small world.

I got the F8 key to work to get into SAFE Mode

Every option I pick takes me to the "press Control-Alt-Delete" to begin screen.

When I do, nothing happens.

I tried in Safe Mode with Networking....sent me to the above command...

Debugging, start at last known good config....sent me to the above command....

Is there anyway to get to the desktop with in the safe mode?

I appreciate the help. Just want to get in, clean it up and back up to transfer to a new updated server.

Rob

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by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 1, 2013 3:19 AM PDT

As you will discover there is no bypass to C+A+D so I won't supply links about it.

I had hoped for more detail such as "The caps lock or other lights don't work" as that would have me asking your PC Tech to check the F1 Keyboard Fuse (google that if you want to know more.)

There are also PCs that have a Keyboard/PS2 Legacy or USB Legacy setting. Your admin of this server should recall that information when you talk to them.

HOWEVER all this may be another of the usual situations I run into. That is and this is not meant to say yours is the same or upset you is when the company fires the IT staff or parts ways with the application company or the app company folds. All these scenarios and more can leave a server in a bad situation and the company can be at risk.

-> Kees is spot on here. Maybe this app just uses some network share and all you need is all the files on that share. However without being there to assess the system, I would be guessing.
Bob

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