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Windows 7 PROBLEM with USB 3.0 PART TWO - Continuing Quest

by zirc99 / May 10, 2012 6:25 AM PDT

Windows 7 PROBLEM with USB 3.0 PART TWO -

Continuing Quest

Consider: USB Mass Storage Device Drivers used in WIN XP, 7, 8

PLATFORMS Tested:

Dell Dimension 4550 3.06 Ghz P4 HT enabled
Dell Dimension 4500 2.80 Ghz P4
ADDONICS Host Controller 2-Port USB 3.0 PCI Controller
WD My Book Essential 1130 2TB USB 3.0/2.0 external drive
Transcend JF700 USB 3.0 16GB flashdrive

Operating Systems:

Windows XP SP3 with NECEL-USB3-Host-Driver-10170-setup - works flawlessly
01/07/2001 5.1.2600.0 (USB 2.0 / 3.0 - only one encountered)

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1
RENESAS-USB3-Host-Driver-21281-setup - problematic

21/06/2006 6.1.7600 16385
21/06/2006 6.1.7601 17577 (USB 2.0 / 3.0 - best chance for connection)
21/06/2006 6.1.7601 17586

Compared to XP and WIN 8, this seems to be a little confused...
Anything from 1 to 10 re-installations of USB 3.0 driver required for connection to take effect
Once achieved, connection is solid, can backup etc BUT lost on restart - [Definitely NOT USB 2.0 performance, tested]

Windows 8 Consumer Preview
with Renesas USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 0096 (Microsoft)

21/06/2006 6.2.8250.0 (USB 2.0 / 3.0 - only one encountered)

This driver is Native to WIN 8, when uninstalled , RE-installed automatically with 'Scan for Hardware Changes' or Restart
Anything from 0 to 6 re-installations of USB 3.0 driver required for connection to take effect


Once achieved, connection is solid, can backup etc BUT lost on restart - [Definitely NOT USB 2.0 performance, tested]
?
OBJECT: Cont.

Demonstrate that problem lies with WIN 7 / WIN 8 - Once connected, that shoud let your Host Controller and USB 3.0 drivers AND Chipset off the hook

USB 3.00 Host Controller

Software/Drivers tried on this Platform:
NECEL-USB3-Host-Driver-10170-setup
RENESAS-USB3-Host-Driver-21190-setup
RENESAS-USB3-Host-Driver-21281-setup
USB3.0_allOS_2.1.27.0_PV
USB3.0_allOS_2.1.28.0_PV
USB3.0_allOS_2.1.28.1_PV (from Intel!)
renesas_nec_usb3_2.1.32.0(www.station-drivers.com).exe Also Lenovo:
USB 3.0 Driver for Windows 7 (32-bit, 64-bit), Vista (32-bit, 64-bit), XP - ThinkPad T420, T420i, T420s, T420si, T520, T520i, W520, X1, X1 Hybrid, X220, X220i, X220 Tablet, X220i Tablet.

Any contribution wellcome

Part One:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19411_102-562759/windows-7-problem-with-usb-3-0/?tag=contentBody;threadListing

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Is this part of a campaign? Link, comment.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / May 10, 2012 6:32 AM PDT
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Is this part of a campaign? depends
by zirc99 / May 10, 2012 10:01 AM PDT

Personally speaking:
Having invested in equipment and time, like to get thinks to work
Like the chalenge and, progress is undeniable, having experienced it at first hand
Had reliable USB 3.0 in WIN XP for two years now and now that close to solving
'glitch' in WIN 7 and 8 [On 2001. 2002 Technology!]

Regs

Mike

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I see others solving it.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / May 10, 2012 11:04 AM PDT

But they are returning things that don't work. That is, they learned how to make the system work for them.

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PS. See what this other member had to go through.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / May 10, 2012 8:28 AM PDT
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What's goin on?
by zirc99 / May 23, 2012 5:50 AM PDT

See you've locked the views on my posts

What sort of 'advice' is that?

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who did what to when? how?
by MuleHeadJoe / May 25, 2012 8:34 AM PDT
In reply to: What's goin on?

@zirc ... what do you mean by "you've locked the views on my posts" ? You said the same thing in the 'part one' of this conversation / thread ... the thread is not locked ... if it were, how could I post this inane question?

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are you saying it's a commodity hardware quality issue then?
by MuleHeadJoe / May 25, 2012 8:41 AM PDT

talking about returning parts that don't work ... are you saying that it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't?

I can't say I really understand the OP's point ... I read his main post up there ... what is it about USB 3 that is of concern? I thought (possibly an error in my reading comprehension) that the OP was inferring that Win7 and/or Win8 do not properly support USB 3.0 ... but I've got a Win7 machine with 2 "SS" USB ports -- aka USB 3.0 -- that seem to work fine ... though I don't actually know how to go about verifying they are running at official 3.0 speeds ... most USB devices I have either don't specify what version of USB they are, or they explicitly are labeled with "USB 2.0" ... I just bought a new thumb drive the other day ... I saw absolutely none on the rack that indicated they were 3.0 compatible ... they all said "USB 2.0" on the package, each and every one in that store.

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I'm writing.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / May 25, 2012 10:44 AM PDT

That if you buy a product that does not work, return it. In this case, be a consumer.

As to the stuff at the store, they probably learned that USB 3.0 gear suffers a high return rate and decided not to offer it.

Bob

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USB 3.0 thumbdrive
by zirc99 / May 26, 2012 5:26 AM PDT

@ MuleHeadJoe

"Ignore him, but he won't go away"

Thanks for moving discussion along. Thread is for WIN 7 USB 3.0 users with problems
As a matter of interest can you furnish stats of your Platform, as you don't have any

Best way evaluating USB 3.0 Port is with DiskMark (google) and
recommend Transcend 700 Series (USB 3.0) any Capacity (4GB - 32GB) available from
Amazon et al (google)

Let me know your Results (Compare with USB 2.0 Port) if you go ahead

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