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Will XP be considered "AbandonWare" after April 2014?

by James Denison / October 7, 2013 1:05 AM PDT

And will Microsoft give an update which removes all activation from it being necessary in the future? This will be the first operating system abandoned by Microsoft which had activation software hampering and interfering at times even with it's legitimate use. Will activation services from Microsoft continue after April 2014 for XP?

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(NT) Have they said anything to the contrary?
by wpgwpg / October 7, 2013 1:29 AM PDT
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I don't know
by James Denison / October 7, 2013 1:37 AM PDT

if they'd said one way or the other, thought maybe someone had heard or read something I missed.

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Here's the MS Link
by wpgwpg / October 7, 2013 2:52 AM PDT
In reply to: I don't know

I went to the MS web site, and found the following link:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help
Whatever they have to say will probably be there. Right now all it says is this:
"Stay protected, do more
Support for Windows XP is ending on April 8, 2014. There's no better time than now to get a new Windows 8 PC." <div>

All I can say is IMHO with a few rare exceptions, anyone who stays with XP after April is asking for trouble. Personally I got off XP several years ago. If I had an old relic of a PC and couldn't afford a new one, I'd try Ubuntu and see if that would serve my needs. At least you'd have support that way. You can buy refurbished PCs for as little as $200 and ones I could live with for $350, so that would be by far a preferable route for me. YMMV.
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What I or you do
by James Denison / October 7, 2013 8:58 AM PDT
In reply to: Here's the MS Link

isn't what all others will do. I also use Linux, even using right now to type and send this (Mint14) but family and friends may prefer a different approach to the use of XP.

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I think that's not easily done
by Steven Haninger / October 7, 2013 2:54 AM PDT

Wouldn't they need to do this with an MS update that could be downloaded for future clean installations of the product? I know that VL versions don't require activation and I could expect those to become more readily available in the underground world.

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Seems others have asked the question
by James Denison / October 7, 2013 9:25 AM PDT
Googled.

PC World
"you'll eventually have
to reinstall it. And that means you'll have to reactivate it--a job that
requires Microsoft's cooperation.
That's a serious concern considering how much Microsoft wishes that
Windows XP would just go away. They have promised to stop supporting the
operating system in April of 2014.
But Microsoft has assured me that they will continue to activate XP.
Their exact words: "The end of Windows XP support will not affect
activation, but rather security updates and phone/online technical
support.""


Technet.Microsoft.com
However, at Microsoft you get at best a stupid answer, at worst a misleading one. Remember, XP is the first OS with activation and the later genuine advantage. Windows 2000 and earlier did not have it.

"End of support means no new updates.
You can still activate NT3, NT4, & 2000, so there is no reason to
think you could not activate XP after support is terminated."


http://www.technibble.com/windows-xp-support-ends-in-april-2014-what-technicians-need-to-know/

"Here's a concise lineup of all the known dates for Windows XP's remaining lifespan, and what they all mean:


April 2011: The final month
that Microsoft allowed new PC sales to have direct installations of
Windows XP. Dell, HP, and Lenovo were some of the known vendors offering
PCs until this date with the old OS.

April 8, 2014: Per Microsoft's official Lifecycle policy
on Windows XP, extended support for the platform goes dark on this day.
Outside of very critical security flaws that may crop up, no more
general patches will be released for the OS to fix functional or
security related issues.

January 14, 2020: The final month that customers on Windows 7 will have "downgrade rights" to move back to Windows XP. Microsoft extended this date
as a courtesy to business customers who have definite business
requirements for the OS. By no means is Microsoft offering this as a
green-light to continue using the OS this long for normal day-to-day
production however as users will be open to all known security risks
April 2014 beyond.

Will XP Still be Capable of Activating After April 8, 2014?
This feature will still exist according to Microsoft. In a posting on PC World, Microsoft publicly responded to affirm that Windows XP activation will be unaffected
by the Windows XP support end date. For any customers that need (or
choose) to set up new systems running XP, they will still be able to
legally activate their machines to take advantage of all the remaining
patches being released for XP."
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I predict no problem.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 7, 2013 2:56 AM PDT

If MSFT does stop activations my bet will be there will be a fine lawsuit over that.

I predict no problem.
Bob

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that sounds like a strong possibiity
by James Denison / October 7, 2013 8:56 AM PDT
In reply to: I predict no problem.

that considered, maybe they will keep the online activation going long enough it becomes a mute point as computers move too far in hardware changes to use it anymore, sort of the way win98se died off. Still, a new generation that likes to be retro, using sandbox or virtual systems already run old DOS and Windows version, so I expect it will follow that pattern. I suspect at that time if MS doesn't free it from activation complications, some popular hack will come along and spread among those nostalgia buffs.

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Related to that,
by mchainmchain / October 7, 2013 1:50 PM PDT

a/v support will also cease over time. Win 2000 is still alive and kicking, but lesser and fewer a/v's now support it. Expect that trend to continue.

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Microsoft will ...
by Edward ODaniel / October 8, 2013 2:58 PM PDT

continue to activate XP but Xp will not be and cannot be thought to be ABANDON WARE any more than DOS or Windows 3.X (all of which are still retained as copyrighted and protected publications belonging to Microsoft).

If Microsoft didn't release XENIX into the public domain through abandonment why would anyone think they would do so with XP?

Microsoft's products may well reach an end of useful life as far as Microsoft is concerned (despite others wants and wishes) but they retain and interest in their products and enforce licensing. This is like ly because in addition to wanting to sell new replacement software Microsoft is concerned about the legitimacy of upgrade licenses which are dependent on ownership and retention of previous versions.

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About Xenix.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 8, 2013 3:08 PM PDT
In reply to: Microsoft will ...

I bumped into that and in every case it was only run on proprietary hardware. It was not as if you could install it on a run of the mill machine and it would work like DOS and most versions of Windows.
Bob

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