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Who ARE you Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly?

by JP Bill / November 7, 2012 5:59 AM PST
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Another article linked on the same page
by Ziks511 / November 7, 2012 1:00 PM PST
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-election/arch-republican-guru-in-awkward-row-with-fox-news-colleagues/article5036156/

"the former Republican strategist Karl Rove wouldn't even accept the decision of his own cable network and employer, Fox News, when it called the key state of Ohio - and, minutes later, the entire race - for President Obama."

And this in the light of Fox calling the Florida results very very early for George W Bush as part of Republican strategy during the Bush vs Gore 2000 election. It is clear that Florida was still not decided after the election was over, and was contested by Democrats and defended by an organized "protest" by "concerned citizens" who all turned out later to have been Washington DC Republican aides and surrogates who had been flown in to create this fake protest.

It's rare to see just desserts land on someone's plate in such a conspicuous fashion. Hey, Karl, bon appetit.

Rob
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Republican strategy ...
by J. Vega / November 7, 2012 2:27 PM PST
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Mr Vega: From your own link
by Ziks511 / November 9, 2012 9:58 PM PST

"The emphatic but premature declarations of a Bush presidency are more likely than the earlier Gore flub to have had a real impact. For one, they prompted Al Gore to concede, cementing for many the early images of Bush as the president-elect, and of Gore, once he'd retracted his concession, as the "sore loser." Such impressions may have significantly altered the dynamics of the post-election wrangling."

In the end there was never an accurate count done in Florida because the Supreme Court intervened. Bush's margin before the counting was halted by SCOTUS was razor thin, and there were many ballots still outstanding and uncounted at the time of their intervention.
Rob

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Fox was also fair
by TONI H / November 7, 2012 7:56 PM PST

in that the dispute was settled on air and not behind closed doors......Rove and the head of the dept making the call had their discussion about it on air and the explanation of the call was accepted by Rove once he realized that there was a time delay on the webpage he was using to keep track of the numbers. He made the explanation for his side of it that he was afraid of having another "Florida Gore" mistake and felt the call for BO was too soon based on the numbers he was looking at. Everything was settled out in the open......it's called TRANSPARENCY.......and Fox didn't hide or cover up what was happening in real time.

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RE: and the explanation of the call was accepted by Rove
by JP Bill / November 7, 2012 8:24 PM PST
In reply to: Fox was also fair
and the explanation of the call was accepted by Rove once he realized that there was a time delay on the webpage he was using to keep track of the numbers.

I'm not having any luck finding your above statement anywhere on the web, perhaps you could give me a link.

This is about all I could find.

"We've got to be careful about calling things when we have like 991 votes separating the candidates and a quarter of the vote left to count ... I'd be very cautious about intruding in this process," said Rove, a behind-the-scenes player in the wild 2000 election between Bush and Al Gore that took weeks to decide. (Gore was on TV Tuesday, too, as anchor of Current TV's election coverage).

It left Rove's colleagues struggling for words.

"That's awkward," said co-anchor Megyn Kelly. She then went backstage to interview on camera two men who were part of Fox's team in charge of making election calls. They had concluded that based on the precincts where votes were left to be counted, Romney couldn't beat Obama.

Later, Rove tried to make light of the encounter. "This is not a cage match," he said. "This is a light intellectual discussion."


Rove was probably sitting in that chair for at least 2 or 3 hours looking at his webpage that he "claims was on a delay", Didn't he get the least bit suspicious when the numbers he was seeing in the previous 2 or 3 hours on HIS webpage weren't matching what he was seeing on FOX News?

He's not a very good story teller.
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That's when I went to bed that night
by James Denison / November 7, 2012 9:29 PM PST

I figured if they were wrong, they'd be laughed at like during the Truman-Dewey contest of years ago. I also considered they knew the areas reporting late and knew the demographic makeup, and more than any other elections, these past two have been strongly demographically driven, especially in predominantly black neighborhoods.

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