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WHERE EXACTLY is this free XP repair disk download?

by jfcp / June 6, 2010 6:01 AM PDT

Pentium III, XP Pro machine: Recently did 2 clean re-installs (due to malware problems),& was working fine. Then ran rkill & Malwarebytes to get rid of Antivirus 7. Seemed OK after that. Then installed & ran TweakNow Power Pack (registry clean), Smart Defrag(deep optimization) & Revo Uninstaller. The machine began to slow down after using these utilities (I DO NOT know if they were the cause, or if it was just coincidence). Then ran Malwarebytes again, then Avast, found 50+ malware items.
The machine keeps getting slower, it's now almost unusable. It boots, but incredibly sluggish, Internet Explorer takes forever to connect, constantly "hangs" for very long periods, HDD almost always churning.
I'm thinking that maybe one of the utilities deleted some files needed by the os, maybe a repair install the thing to try. I cannot find this "Free XP Repair Disk Download" that is supposed to be available at the MS XP download site.

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by Jimmy Greystone / June 6, 2010 7:36 AM PDT

Well, here's a few fact of life things you should know.

An unpatched "virgin" XP can be compromised within about 5 minutes of being connected to the Internet. So you should make yourself an install disc with SP3 slipstreamed in at a minimum. I like using the extra space on the disc to include a few things like drivers, and AV program, etc. That way they're all right there.

Internet Explorer 6, which comes with XP, is ridiculously easy to exploit as well. For 2-3 years, almost every week there was a new remote exploit being discovered in IE6, most of them didn't require any user interaction besides going to a boobytrapped website. Avoiding high risk programs like IE is always in your best interest.

Registry programs are often the cause of problems... Certainly much more than they are ever the cure. They are best left to people with more money than sense.

Finally, the fact that you were infested with malware in the first place means that you have some bad security habits you will need to break before this cycle will end. You can rant and rave all you want about how you shouldn't have to do this, and why can't these programs do that, but it won't change anything. Until you accept that whether or not you should be expected to, YOU are ultimately responsible for the security of your computer, you'll be having this particular dance every so often in a never ending cycle.

I also have no idea what program you could be talking about. The only thing Microsoft really has for that kind of function is chkdsk, which is a standard part of the XP install. And all it really does is inspect the filesystem and attempt to repair damage it finds. It won't do anything if the drive hardware is bad.

First thing I'd suggest doing, is going to a "clean" system and making an SP3 XP install CD. Then I'd format the system and start over one more time. Even with SP3 loaded from the beginning your first stop should be the Windows Update site to download all security updates post-SP3. At no point should you go to ANY other website until that is all installed. I also don't care whether or not you like IE8, if you're going to keep using IE, install IE8 and learn to live with it. IE6's security makes swiss cheese look like a model of structural integrity. Better yet would be to pick some non-IE browser. Doesn't really matter which, just so long as it's in no way based on IE. From that point forward, as far as you're concerned, IE no longer exists on your system. The rest is pretty much covered in my standard set of tips.

TIPS FOR A PROBLEM FREE COMPUTING EXPERIENCE
============================================

The more of these suggestions you follow, the fewer problems you should have. They won't solve any existing problems you have, but if you follow them all you should be able to avoid virtually all problems in the future.

Things you should NOT do
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1: Use Internet Explorer (1)
2: Use any browser based on Internet Explorer (e.g. Maxathon and MSN Explorer)
3: Use Outlook or Outlook Express (2)
4: Open email attachments you haven't manually scanned with your virus scanner
5: Open email attachments you were not expecting, no matter who they appear to be from
6: Respond to spam messages, including using unsubscribe links
7: Visit questionable websites (e.g. porn, warez, hacking)
8: Poke unnecessary holes in your firewall by clicking "Allow" every time some program requests access to the Internet (3)
9: Click directly on links in email messages
10: Use file sharing or P2P programs
11: Use pirated programs

Things you SHOULD do
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1: Use a non-IE or IE based browser (4)
2: Always have an up to date virus scanner running (5)
3: Always have a firewall running (6)
4: Install all the latest security updates (7)(8)(9)
5: Delete all unsolicited emails containing attachments without reading
6: Manually scan all email attachments with your virus scanner, regardless of whether it's supposed to be done automatically
7: Copy and paste URLs from email messages into your web browser
8: Inspect links copied and pasted into your web browser to ensure they don't seem to contain a second/different address
9: Establish a regular backup regimen (10)(11)
10: Make regular checks of your backup media to ensure it is still good (12)

Being a considerate Internet user & other online tips
----------------------------------------------------------------
1: Do not send attachments in emails (13)(14)
2: Do not use stationary or any other kind of special formatting in emails (13)
3: Do not TYPE IN ALL CAPS (15)
4: Avoid texting speak or "l33t speak" (16)
5: Do not poke sleeping bears (17)
6: Do not use registry cleaners/fixers/optimizers (18)(19)

Offline tips and suggestions
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1: Avoid buying Acer, HP. Compaq, Gateway, and eMachines computers (20)(21)(22)(23)
2: Avoid sub-$500 systems that aren't netbooks or part of some limited time price promotion (24)

Notes
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(1) Sadly sometimes this is unavoidable, so only use IE when the site absolutely will not work with any other browser and you cannot get that information/service anywhere else, and only use IE for that one specific site.
(2) Outlook and Outlook Express are very insecure, and basically invite spam. The jury is still out on Vista's Windows Mail, but given Microsoft's history with email programs, extreme caution is advised. Possible replacements include Mozilla Thunderbird, Eudora, The Bat, and dozens of others.
(3) When it doubt over whether or not to allow some program, use Google to find out what it is and whether or not it needs access to the Internet. Otherwise, denying access is the safest course of action, since you can always change the rule later.
(4) On Windows your options include: Mozilla Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera, Flock, Chrome, and Safari. I would personally recommend Firefox with the NoScript extension for added security, but it the important thing is to pick one and use it instead of IE.
(5) AVG Free and Avast are available if you need a decent free virus scanner
(6) XP/Vista's firewall is probably good enough for 99% of all Windows users, but other options include ZoneAlarm, Outpost Firewall, and Comodo. If you have a router with a firewall built into it, there is no need for any of the aforementioned firewalls to be running.
(7) Microsoft's usual system is to release security updates every second Tuesday of the month.
(8) Use of Windows Update on Windows operating systems prior to Windows Vista requires Internet Explorer, and is thus a valid exception to the "No IE" rule.
(9) Service packs should ALWAYS be installed. They frequently contain security updates that will ONLY be found in that service pack.
(10) You can go with a full fledged backup program, or simply copying important files onto a CD/DVD/Flash drive.
(11) I'd recommend a tiered backup system. For example, you might have 5 rewritable DVDs, and every day you burn your backup onto a new disc. On the 6th day, you erase the disc for Day #1 for your backup, and so on so that you have multiple backups should one disc ever go bad.
(12) Replace rewritable CDs and DVDs approximately every 3-6 months.
(13) These dramatically increase the size of email messages (2-3X minimum) and clog up email servers already straining to cope with the flood of spam pouring in daily.
(14) If you want to share photos with friends/family, upload them to some photo sharing site like Flickr or Google's Picasa Web and then send people a link to that particular photo gallery.
(15) This is considered to be the same as SHOUTING and many people find it to be hard to read along with highly annoying.
(16) Unless the goal is to make yourself look like a pre-adolescent girl, or someone overcompensating for their gross inadequacies, and you don't want people to take you seriously.
(17) Most REAL hackers are quite content to leave you alone unless you make them take notice of you. No dinky little software firewall or consumer grade router is going to keep them out of your system. So do not go to some hacker website or chat room and start shooting your mouth off unless you're prepared to accept the consequences
(18) Most of these programs are scams, and sell you something you don't need. Most of them report non-issues in an attempt to boost the number of "issues". Sometimes using these programs can lead to a non-functioning computer.
(19) The Windows registry is not some mystical black box of untapped performance tweaks for Windows, that will lead to untold improvements in system performance. Most of the tweaks will lead to very modest performance gains of 1-2% tops, and probably less than 10% all combined. There is also a good chance that you will render your system unbootable if you make a mistake when editing. Registry default settings are set that way for a reason. Just do yourself a favor, and forget you ever heard of the Windows registry unless you are a computer programmer/debugger and your job requires knowledge of the registry.
(20) Acer now owns Gateway and eMachines
(21) HP owns Compaq
(22) Hardware failures seem far more common with these brands than can be considered normal
(23) These companies use cheap labor in Asian countries were working conditions are often what would be considered sweat shops, and are run by brutal dictatorships, which you are supporting by buying from these companies
(24) If you just do some simple math, and realize that the cost of individual components like the CPU are around 25-33% of the total retail cost of the system, and everyone involved in the making and selling of the system is looking to make a profit, how much money can they possibly be making on each system. And if you're only making a few pennies on every system, how much quality control do you really think is going to go into the manufacturing process?

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XP re-install
by jfcp / June 6, 2010 10:41 AM PDT
In reply to: Well

Thanks for that exhaustive reply. A couple of those items are a help. The worst part of this is that it's not even my computer! My friend
(who I'm pretty sure has "bad security habits" as you say, he' ll be reading your answers) trashes the thing within a day. And he uses (USED)IE.
There is supposed to be a "free XP repair install disk" from MS, but I'll take your advice, and not bother with it now.
One final question: Should I have only one malware program installed? I have four(all free versions) And I did not see any warnings about conflicts like I had gotten a couple of years ago.

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It depends
by Jimmy Greystone / June 6, 2010 11:13 AM PDT
In reply to: XP re-install

It depends on if any of them are doing any kind of passive scanning like an AV program. You don't want to have more than one of those running at any given time, but otherwise it shouldn't make a difference as long as you're also not running multiple scans at the same time.

But if you follow my set of tips, those programs are pretty much pointless. Rather than dealing with the problem after the fact, I focus on preventing it from happening in the first place.

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WHERE EXACTLY is this free XP repair disk download?
by pcs365_12 / June 7, 2010 2:36 PM PDT

Uninstall, if you have more than one antivirus program, Download ccleaner and clean up startup, stop unwanted services and than do a registry cleaning. Run malware bytes NOW in safemode and after this things should be fine.

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by Jimmy Greystone / June 7, 2010 11:28 PM PDT

Unless of course that registry cleaning ends up getting a bit overzealous and removing things it shouldn't, which is a very common problem with those programs. Not to mention there's pretty much no need to clean the registry. You save maybe a few bytes of space, and 1-2 nanoseconds of loading time. Well below human thresholds of perception.

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