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Submission form visual text editor no longer the default

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / February 21, 2012 2:34 AM PST

Hey everyone,

I wanted to give you all a heads up to let you know that we have turn off the visual text editor (WYSIWYG text editor) by default in the forums' submission forms .

We have just seen too many mangled/malformed posts with the use of the visual editor--especially when our members copy and paste their text into the form from a different source.

If you'd still like to use the visual text editor, no worries, it is still available. Just simply toggle to it by clicking on the magnifying glass icon and you'll be presented with the visual text editor tools.

I'm hoping with this change, we will see less of the malformed posts.

Thanks everyone!
-Lee
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The magnifying glass icon was not intuitve.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 21, 2012 2:47 AM PST

I wonder if RTM (Rich Text Mode) would be simpler. That is, simple ascii in the icon. Of the nice icons, this one was the most misunderstood one.
Bob

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Agreed on that, but one thing though...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / February 21, 2012 5:19 AM PST

we added the "alt" tag to the icon, so if you hover over it now, it reads "Turn visual editor ON" vice versa.

It's difficult to find a universal icon to represent this, but I agree it's not an intuitive icon as it is now, we'll find something. I hope that the explainer text will help.

Thanks for the feedback, Bob.

-Lee

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How about..
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 22, 2012 3:44 AM PST

Since that turns off the formatting bar, how about the Alt saying, "Turn on formatting bar"?

Just thinking out loud that it might be more intuitive than 'visual editor'.

Still, I love it now that it is turned off by default, and I also note the new font in this 'off' mode. Much better.

That said, Happy another 'how about'. How about swapping the font sizes in the two modes. In the off mode the font size is slightly smaller than in the on mode. If it was the other way around, people might prefer not to use the visual editor unless they had a real need.

Mark

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(NT) I'll second the font size swap.
by bob b / February 26, 2012 6:08 AM PST
In reply to: How about..
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I'll request the two suggestions
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / February 27, 2012 4:31 AM PST
In reply to: How about..

-- Make font size larger like with the visual editor on.
-- Change out confusing icon to be text --let me see how difficult that would be.

Thanks for the feedback!
-Lee

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What do you guys think of this?
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / February 29, 2012 9:14 AM PST

Instead of having the button, having text as such?
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/forums/mockups/visualeditor.jpg

Also do you think it should read "Visual editor" or "Text editor"?

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks!
-Lee

Note: This post was edited by its original author add additional question on 02/29/2012 at 5:21 PM PT

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Good enough for me.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 29, 2012 9:21 AM PST

I can't write why I think Rich versus Visual is better but this is 100% better than before.

Thanks!

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(NT) Much better than a magnifying glass.
by Kees_B Forum moderator / March 1, 2012 2:49 AM PST
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(NT) Yep - I prefer that as well.
by John.Wilkinson / March 1, 2012 7:13 AM PST
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(NT) Add my vote to replace the icon. Big improvement.
by Carol~ Forum moderator / March 1, 2012 8:23 AM PST
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Me too.
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / March 2, 2012 4:55 AM PST

Much clearer,

Mark

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Thanks for the feedback...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 2, 2012 7:13 AM PST

We'll do our best to get this out next week, along with the request to get the fonts to be the same size and type in the post submission forms.

Thanks again!

Cheers!
-Lee

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Note to myself
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / March 2, 2012 9:11 PM PST

to ask if the "new post" typing box can ever be enlarged.

But I won't ask yet as I don't want to pile on any further requests, Devil

Mark

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Note to MYself..
by Carol~ Forum moderator / March 4, 2012 8:17 AM PST

to ask if the "new post" submission box can ever be enlarged.

But I won't ask yet as I don't want to pile on any further requests, DevilDevil

Mark Carol

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Note to self, file this request as I agree!
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 6, 2012 3:46 AM PST
In reply to: Note to MYself..
Happy
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Note to Mark and Carol
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 8, 2012 2:11 AM PST
In reply to: Note to MYself..

Do a browser shift + refresh.

Go to the Test forum, and click on the "Create a new Discussion button"...

Notice anything different? Grin

Cheers!
-Lee

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Brill Lee.
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / March 9, 2012 2:51 AM PST
In reply to: Note to Mark and Carol

But, er...

I did the Shift+Refresh in the browser and the forum display did refresh, but then when I created a new Test forum discussion I see this;
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6883/testnew.jpg

Is that the new size? Call me greedy but I was hoping for a submission area almost the size of a submitted post area. Happy

Mark

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That's the new size...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 9, 2012 5:23 AM PST
In reply to: Brill Lee.

It's about an inch and half wider and now the subject line can be typed out in full without hiding any of it.

It was a notable difference to me. Are you getting greedy on me Mark? Wink

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In that case
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / March 9, 2012 7:22 PM PST
In reply to: That's the new size...

that's good Lee, and I promise not to be so greedy in the future. Happy

Mark

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Yay and Thank You.
by Carol~ Forum moderator / March 9, 2012 5:41 AM PST
In reply to: Note to Mark and Carol

Having said that, I'm going to be the one to call Mark greedy. Give him an inch and he wants a foot.

I only have one thing add.......

We tend to think alike. His hopes run along the same lines as my hopes.

How greedy of Mark to ask for... MORE MORE MORE! Devil

Maybe because he's such a hard worker and gives so much of himself to the community, you might consider asking the engineers to accommodate his needs and wants? Just sayin' Happy

Anon~

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Just a note.
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / March 9, 2012 7:23 PM PST
In reply to: Yay and Thank You.

That is not Anon, it's Carol~ Devil

Mark

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Just an added note ..
by Carol~ Forum moderator / March 11, 2012 1:22 AM PST
In reply to: Just a note.

Just an added note .. FW--IW:

Thanks! Sad

Anon~ Null~

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Fonts are the same size now!
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 6, 2012 3:44 AM PST

This went out yesterday, I hope you would've notice. If not, here it is!

-Lee

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This is live!
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 6, 2012 3:43 AM PST

Thanks for all your feedback. This is now live on Submission forms.

If you don't see it, do a browser shift + refresh.

Thanks again!
-Lee

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