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Samsung YH920 or Creative Zen Touch??

by RichDem / December 12, 2004 5:42 AM PST

I was wondering if anybody could offer me some advice, I want to buy a HDD based MP3 player and was considering either the Samsung YH920 or the Creative Zen Touch. Which of these is in your opinion the best?? I have read some things about the music transfer on the Samsung not being very good... Is this true.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Richard

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Check another...
by magicmagid2 / December 14, 2004 2:25 PM PST

First check other HDD-Mp3 such Apple iPode products & iRiver H120, H140, H320, H340.
I see all their feauters and I suggest you that select iRiver Product that have best permormance & some good accessories such as ext mic & have some good features such as optical in/out & line in/out.

But In my country IRAN , I can't buy iRiver. because their products don't exist here.
Do you have any suggestion for me?

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Iriver is available in Iran!
by kaveh_hero / December 29, 2004 3:15 AM PST
In reply to: Check another...

dear magicmagid2,
you can get iriver from Digital shop in payetakht computer center on Mirdamad Ave., Tehran, its phone number is:+9821-8781016-7 and there is a website for Iriver in iran: iriveriran.com
bye

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mp3 hdd player
by presario / December 16, 2004 5:01 AM PST

hi
i have purchased one of the samsung hdd mp3 players you mention,i would like to take this moment to make your life easy.DO NOT BUY THE SAMSUNG.you are right about the file transfer being not good.i can tell you its terrible
beyond belief steer clear.you will end up pulling your hair out trying to get your music onto it in the proper way its a nightmare.the only plus side is the actual player is nice and compact nicer than the zen.hope this helps

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Samsung File transfer
by RichDem / December 16, 2004 6:57 AM PST
In reply to: mp3 hdd player

many thanks for your comments presario, I do like the look of the samsung but this file transfer thing is really putting me off, I have read some very good reviews on the Zen touch, sound quality etc so I am leaning towards this one.

Richard

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An excellent MP3 player with so many great features!
by scottfurr / January 25, 2005 3:28 AM PST
In reply to: Samsung File transfer

This really is a great player, don't let snooty
ipod users fool you. They overpaid! This player is such
a better value for the the money. It is so easy to use
and much easier to navigate than using an ipod touch
wheel. I am not long for words so I will just say this
player is excellent and sets the bar for MP3 players to
come.

Now the downside, the software sucks. Here is the
solution and if you follow this you will save yourself
a lot of time. Find an Mp3 tag editor on the net, I
used the freeware program called Mp3tag. Edit your ID3
tags for your mp3's, then build a library using the
napster software and transfer to your player. The
napster software is completely useless except for
transferring files securly. If you use windows media
player you ID3 tags get all screwed up when
transferring. Enjoy and I am glad to see such a great
Samsung product.

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i cannot switch it on!!!!!!!!!
by iosk21 / May 18, 2005 7:03 AM PDT

I BOUGHT THIS MP3 PLAYER , AND AFTER 5 HOURS OF CHARGING IT ,THIS BLOODY THIN REFUSES TO BE SWITCHED ON.CAN SOMEBODY OUT THERE HELP ME.WHEN I AM CHARGING IT , SHOULD AN INDICATION BE ON THE SCREEN LIKE ON THE MOBILE PHONES ?BECAUSE WHILE I AM CHARGING IT I DON'T SEE ANY SIGNS ON THE SCREEN.PLEASE HELP MEEEE

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(NT) not connected?
by bevhoward / June 9, 2005 2:05 AM PDT

sounds like you didn't connect it to the charger correctly...

first, it has to be plugged into the mains as it does not charge through the usb connector.

second, when it is correctly connected to the charger, the screen comes on and displays a message that it is charging and then announces when the charge is complete... the screen stays active until it is disconnected from the charger

time to call samsung tech support.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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its a fault
by Pax / June 9, 2005 3:49 AM PDT
In reply to: (NT) not connected?

I had this exact same problem wen I initially got mine, I sent it back and got it replaced, its a fault u should have warrenty on it, u need a replacement.

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Learn how to use napster
by jmanjohns2 / February 1, 2005 11:25 PM PST
In reply to: mp3 hdd player

People, the samsung napster is really quite nice and napster is really useful, if you take the 5 minutes necissary to learn how to use it. Music transfers quickly and flawlessly. I transferred 2 gbs if lossless wmas in less than 5 minutes.

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No problems with transfers
by dwenz / March 5, 2005 11:09 PM PST

I have had the Samsung YH-920 since Nov 19 2004 and have used Napster to download about 300 songs flawlessly. Sounds like you may have had bandwidth or PC issues unrelated to the player or software.

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YH920 samsung mp3
by l1verp00lfan / December 22, 2004 10:58 PM PST

Richard

I got a YH920 today and I am sending it back. It is supposed to work on Windows XP with Service pack 2 etc but it does not. I spoke to samsung customer support and there is an issue with Microsoft and the compatibility of this player. I would suggest that you look at MP3 players which have the Plays For Sure Log that Microsoft are promoting. This way they will always have it compatible with future upgrades
Hope this helps
Joe

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Service Pack 2
by MystkLp / December 23, 2004 4:05 AM PST
In reply to: YH920 samsung mp3

for the samsung yh-920 to work with the service pack 2, you have to download a usb file thing for it to work with SP2 if your running windows xp. I forgot where to download it but when i get it ill post it here..

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Help: That samsung yh-920 usb file needed!
by eamiel / January 9, 2005 10:59 AM PST
In reply to: Service Pack 2

My yh-920 has given me fits. For a few days it was recognized by the PC as "Samsung YH-920 device" and I could read and write to it. Now it is recognized only as an "Unknown device" and therefore I can't load any more music on it. I tried everything including reinstalling the drivers, software, Samsung tech support and buying and installing a new USB 2.0 card.

It still comes up as Unknown device. Can you tell me what usb file you used to get it going? Thank you very much !!

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Samsung 920 USB problem "Unknown Device"
by bpattee / January 19, 2005 3:43 AM PST

Mine did exactly the same thing. I tried connecting to several computers with the same results. I was hopeing somebody would reply to this with an solution, I was ready to send it back on warranty.

From what I know about USB, I guessed the YH-920 was not identifying itself correctly in the USB inquiry. I thought perhaps the memory or disk was corrupt. I know some devices like my linksys router does a master reset to factory settings when the reset is held for 30 seconds. As a last desparate attempt I tried holding the reset for thirty seconds and then both the reset and 'On/Play' button for thirty seconds.

It seemed to work. When I plugged it in USB it came back on line and all my content was still on the hard disk. I can not find any Samsung docs to support this.
Perhaps it was just a lucky coincidence but it worked for me.

Good Luck
Brad

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Samsung YH-920 Partial Fix
by bevhoward / March 21, 2005 4:48 AM PST

Samsung maintains that the problem is with XP-SP2 and tells owners to uninstall SP2 (right...)

I determined that the device was "cycling" through the device manager, apparently waiting for an application to associate with the usb connection.

On a hunch, I connected the 920, then _immediately_ started the Samsung "Recovery" utility that installs with the drivers. The device manager "cycling" ceased.

I simply minimized the "recovery" utility and left it running. (Do _NOT_ start a recovery process) The utility has to be launched after connecting as it will unload if it does not detect the player.

Note... suggest connecting only when WMP and Nabster are not running... start them after the connect.

Good news is that it works fine with WMP... I don't use Nabster at all and it seems to have full functionality.

Beverly Howard

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help?
by rockerbabee45 / August 27, 2007 7:52 AM PDT

where did u get the system utility thing? can u send me the file??

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Samsung HY-920, SP2
by andremiguel / February 13, 2005 5:38 AM PST
In reply to: Service Pack 2

Hi there, I've just gotten this mp3 player and I'm not getting it connected to napster. Can you tell me where did you download this file to update the usb.
Thank you.

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??yh920 or the Zen??
by wrexhambulkbag / December 24, 2004 7:18 PM PST

Hi, which way did you go in the end? Yh920 or the Zen? On the 920 I have been told you can back up all your old 45?s and LP?s direct from your stereo, is this true? Can you do this with the Zen? Plus any more info for and against on both would be great.
Many Thanks

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YH-920 or the Zen Touch? I have both...
by flemgator / January 18, 2005 10:55 AM PST
In reply to: ??yh920 or the Zen??

Here are the Pros/Cons for Zen Touch:TouchPad makes it smoother to search for songs. Installs easy and works flawlessly w/ Realplayer, WMP and Creative Software that comes with it. Can delete songs on the fly(920 can only delete when conn to PC). Case is wothless except to store;can't access any controls. I got about 20 hour Battery life from Zen, 10 w/ YH-920. YH-920 Pro/Cons: Shows up as HDD, so you can also store anything else you want, Zen doesn't. Has FM Tuning, FM Recording and Voice Recording(Handy now that I'm in Iraq). I haven't used the Samsung Software yet because it only works when connected to Inet and I can't access from here, but works well w/ WMP. The one thing that really ticks me of about the 920 is that if you can drag n drop songs to it like any HDD and the songs will be on the Player, but won't show up until you do a Library Rebuild(only when conn to PC),which takes about 2 minutes. I like them both, but personally I'm sticking w/ the YH-920 because the Case is nice and functional and being able to save other files makes it that much more versatile.

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yh-920 recommendation
by inasacu / January 1, 2005 11:51 PM PST

i've had the samsung yh-920 since october and i still cant get it to recognize any files i upload to the player. i've tried napster that comes packages and it doesn't work either. i've also tried real player, media player and nothing...

only because i am in europe otherwise i would have returned the player.

i would not consider the yh-920 as far as the other player, i am not sure.

hope this helps.

inasacu

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Software Versions
by vulas / January 11, 2005 6:48 AM PST
In reply to: yh-920 recommendation

What version of Media Player are you using? I have version 10 and what ever version of the Napster software that came with it and can transfer any songs to the player and they play just fine. I'm on XP (no sp2)

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Samsung Napster - DON'T !!!!!!!
by Phil.K / January 6, 2005 6:48 PM PST

Unless you only want to spend a fortune downloading stuff from Napster do not buy this piece of crap. I have it and it will not allow me to upload to the thing my own stuff from my comp. Everything has to be done via Napster ONLINE. Avoid this rip-off RIAA-blessed garbage and buy a RIO.

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Samsung Napster - DON'T - Reply
by vulas / January 11, 2005 6:46 AM PST

I have the same player and have no issues transferring any songs regardless of where I got them to the player. I can use either the software that came with it or Windows Media Player. Not sure what your issue was?

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Samsung YH-920... A Nightmare
by darren5280 / January 10, 2005 1:10 AM PST

I bought this a few days ago and to say the least it is a total nightmare. Took several tries to get the device recognised by windows xp sp2. Once that hurdle was cleared and the napster software and media player were made as current as possible the issues continued. While both software programs used to transfer music or sync to the player appear to work on the pc, once the device is properly disconnected, nothing shows up in the library on the player. I spent several hours on the phone with samsung support. I reloaded the firmware, reformatted and repaired the device with included utility. All to no avail. Napster support said it was a samsung issue. I am just thinking it shouldn't be this difficult. I bought my son an Ipod for xmas and I will be exchanging this item for an Ipod for me. The player looks great and it has some extras. That is why I decided to try it. In general I think Samsung makes good products. But this product isn't worth the hassle. I couldn't be more disappointed. Getting music to the Ipod was virtually effortless. It does what it is supposed to. The Samsung YH-920 doesn't. Who needs an FM radio when you've got 20 gb of you favourite music anyway? The remote is nice but pointless when the device doesn't give access to the music you try to load to it. I hate to say it because I had so much hope for the device. Stay away from this product

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SP2 and yh-920
by darren5280 / January 10, 2005 7:42 AM PST

I talked with Samsung tech support one last time after writing the above review. Their specialist says it is a known issue for some with SP2 and no idea when they will have a fix. He suggested I return the item.

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I would have to disagree
by vulas / January 11, 2005 6:54 AM PST

As I stated in some of the other postings I plugged the device in, brought up the media player sync it up with my current library and away I went. All songs showed up and play just fine. I also installed the Napster software that came with it just to try it out and it worked fine as well. Maybe I was one of the lucky ones but I love the player and highly recommend it. The only difference I can see is maybe it's because I don't have SP2 installed it has more issues than it's worth. I do have all the latest security updates applied but not the entire SP.

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Help and an honest review about the YH-920
by shapptastic / January 11, 2005 2:03 PM PST

I've had the YH-920 for about 2 weeks now and I have gotten to the point where I have a good idea about its weaknesses and its strengths. For the people who are having trouble getting the YH-920 working, the issue is not with SP2 as I have service pack 2 and it had no problems recognizing it. Any issues you are having with it being recognized involve not updating the drivers for your USB ports. Check your manufacturer's website for either an allinone driver for via chipsets or a usb driver update.

To begin, your choices for adding songs to the player are either napster or windows media player 10. If you are primarily adding random songs but not full albums, use windows media player as i found it both simpler to use and faster. If, however, you are adding albums to your player and you want them to play in track order, use napster. Windows media player sends files to the player and uses their track name in the id3 tag to determine the order of the album which causes the album to play in alphabetical order versus track order. Napster arranges albums by filename, so if the album is in the correct order on your hard drive, it will transfer in that order.

As for the player itself, its very simple to use once you find out its functions. The manual is terrible for explaining basic features such as fast forwarding tracks(hold >>| button) and adding an entire artist's songs to a playlist(hold the select button). I figured out how to do these by playing with the thing, but it should have been explained in the manual.

As for sound quality, its on par with the ipod and other players, but it greatly depends on the quality of the song. Anything less that 128kbps for mp3s sounds bad. I suggest any albums that you rip to your hard drive be at least 160kbps or 192kbps.

You are given the option of chosing songs by genre, artist, or title. Again, if you are transfering a lot of songs, make sure to check the tag information for the songs, otherwise you'll end up with 1 artist being read as 3(ex. 2-pac, 2pac, tupac). This is no different than any other mp3 player, but its particular important once you fill up 20 gigs of mp3s.

So far so good. The only issues I have had with the player is battery life and slowdown when loading up artists. I have filled about 18 gigs with mp3s, so when the artist list loads up, it takes about 5-6 seconds to work. Also, if you fill up the hard drive, it has to spin more to get to other songs. Battery life for me has been around 7-8 hours, which isn't terrible, but its not as good as the zen touch.

All in all, the more i get used to the player, the more i like it. I have little to complain about with the hardware, however compared to the relative simplicity of itunes, the software needs some improvement. If you are willing to get used to the software, the player is fine.

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Samsung YH-920
by toddhuov / January 17, 2005 2:58 AM PST

Darren,

I just bought one of these last week and I returned it yesterday. I didn't have any trouble putting music on it but I could not remove a song from it once I put it on the mp3 player. The Napster software that comes with it is horrible and it has compatibility issues with Windows XP SP2. Too bad because in most respects, it was a pretty nice player. I now have a Apple Ipod Mini which works flawlessly.

Todd

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its easy to delete songs actually
by shapptastic / January 17, 2005 3:08 PM PST
In reply to: Samsung YH-920

just a quick note, in case you are wondering, the easiest way for me to delete songs was not through napster but by just double-clicking on the drive letter for the player in my computer and going to the music directory and deleting the file. napster works too, but i like using windows better

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deleting music
by eff-one / June 8, 2005 11:36 PM PDT

i deleted the music off my samsung yh-920 because the music on my wmp10 was not sorted properly,ie genre etc,so when i put the music onto the player it was all over the place.deleting the music was easy,but the song titles etc are still on the player,can anyone tell me how to get rid of them so that when i put the music back on, it will be sorted properly? do i have to format the drive? thanx

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