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Router firewall or ZoneAlarm???

by are_emm / January 24, 2005 8:46 AM PST

Hi all. I have a wireless router, (DLink), with a built-in firewall and was wondering if that's enough protection from things like virus' and spyware, or if I should also install Zone Alarm? I use Spybot and AdAware SE for spyware and adware elimination, but I'm wondering if my router's firewall is sufficient enough to do away with the need for Zone Alarm.


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(NT) (NT) i use both
by Mark5019 / January 24, 2005 9:24 AM PST
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Most home router firewalls are not application aware
by rharmer / October 14, 2005 2:06 AM PDT
In reply to: (NT) i use both

Meaning they block attacks from getting into your home network unless your home network makes a request to the Interent and receives an attack. For example, click a link on a web page that inidvertantly downloads a virus. Your home router/firewall wouldn't pick that up but an AntiVirus application would.

At a minimum you should have a firewall/router, local antivirus app and local spyware app for proper protection. Adding a local firewall app is good if you have the technical knowledge to lock it down properly. For most home users, I find them to be a hinderance.

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ZONE ALARM PRO works very well
by lbmurray / October 14, 2005 5:14 AM PDT

I've been using Zone Alarm Pro for a couple of years now and find it works very well and is very easy to use and configure according to your needs if you wish to do so. You can also let Zone Alarm do it all automatically.

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by hans_joachimm / October 14, 2005 7:41 AM PDT

Dear Sir,
I congratulate you for having no problems with "ZoneAlarm Pro". After my connection broke down (in Germany) and asking my provider for help, his first question was: "Do you use ZoneAlarm"? for it doesn't work very well.
After installing "WinXP" once a time ZoneAlarm blocated my internet. After de-installation I have had no problems.
May be I made a mistake. In this case I ask for a reply to "hans_joachimm@web.de". Thank you very much!!!!!!

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Zone Alarm Pro doesn't work for Hans ...Can anyone help him
by lbmurray / October 14, 2005 9:45 AM PDT
In reply to: Congratulation

Sorry you had problems with Zone Alarm Pro...My Windows XP was already installed when I bought the Zone Alarm Pro Suite with Firewall,Anti-virus and SpyWare Killer but I remember the first day there was a CONFLICT WITH THE MICROSOFT XP FIREWALL which I decided not to use. Maybe that's the problem you're having...Hope you find someone on this forum who can help you.

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Zone Alarm
by mlesterstuckey / October 14, 2005 1:46 PM PDT
In reply to: Congratulation

I too was having trouble accessing and staying connected to MSN. I had to take my computer to the repair shop and they saw I was running ZA and told me to get rid of it. Now my access works.

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About Zone Alarm
by victormed / October 14, 2005 10:28 PM PDT
In reply to: Zone Alarm

This is an amaising product, it's "hiding" your computer in internet streem when you can "see" others. I'm using it many years, different versions, and happy with it. Alsough I prefer simlified versions like 3.5...th or Pro Technicians advised to get rid of Z.A. becouse they don't want to move a finger to do the best for you. If you want to be safe - lern how to use Zone Alarm. Be prepared to **** it of sometimes when you want to do things that is not safe for Zone Alarm p.of view, when done, turn it on again. Sinse you learn it, you aliminate many headaches for yourself.

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Zone Alarm or Not? Answer: It works and you need it
by PHRELOAD / October 21, 2005 2:40 PM PDT
In reply to: About Zone Alarm

I put this software to an interesting test. I had 2 Dell machines to strip and rebuild. I Installed windows 2K and went to get all the patches online, thinking that I would be safe if I just went to Microsoft and only that. By the time I got the patches, literally only minutes online with a fresh install both computers had been completely overrun with viruses! As soon as I installed NAV2004 it freaked trying to scan the proliferation of emails eminating from my machines.
Obviously I had to start all over. I used the following order: Windows, Zone Alarm, NAV2004, connect to internet, get NAV stuff, get Windows patches, then everything else.
Since then, I have repeated this basic procedure many times and all six machines are alive and kicking after up to two years.
I do not use a router, and I'm sure there are other ways to keep people out of my box but Zone Alarm DEFINATELY makes a difference!

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Get Rid of it ..... NOT!!!
by JRnMD / October 19, 2005 9:52 PM PDT
In reply to: Zone Alarm

Whether you use ZA Pro, Black Ice or some other software firewall, you need to take the time to learn HOW to use it. Don't let some hardware dweeb that barely knows a UTP from an STD tell you to get rid of your firewall. Firewalls, both hardware and software, take some learning - and using both types in series is a recommended practice. As mentioned above in another post, the typical home-use hardware firewall which is typically part of a router/modem/firewall box and doesn't provide adequate protection from newer application threats. I have a home network with a hardware firewall on the IAP router and three computers - each with a different software firewall running on it. Of the three different firewalls I use, ZA Pro is the least obtrusive and easiest to configure initially. But all firewalls take work to get some applications to connect outbound. My recommendation is to find another tech service that has a QUALIFIED technician with an Info Assurance background to help you if you feel the firewall configuration issue is beyond your abilities. BUT NEVER EVER run your system without at least two firewalls between you and the internet!

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Zone alarm
by hatedell / October 14, 2005 1:07 PM PDT

I like Zone alarm a lot, but the problem that I have is that it blocks me from accesing a share drive on a second computer thats on the same home network and in order for me to be able to acces this drive is by shutting down Zone Alarm. Any ideas on why this is happening??

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Zone alarm blocks.
by trwkid / October 16, 2005 5:42 PM PDT
In reply to: Zone alarm

I habe found anything zone alarm blocks I can tell it to allow access and it will. Has always worked great for me and I can always unblock anything it blocks. It keeps a list and allows you to change the settings.<Jerry>

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Zone Alarm and local networks
by harryoosterveen / October 16, 2005 6:36 PM PDT
In reply to: Zone alarm

I had a similar problem a while ago, using the free version of Zone Alarm. However, if you want to use it with a local network, you have to use Zone Alarm Pro, that can distinguish between computers on your local network and computers on the Internet. That solved the problem for me.

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Check out trusted versus untrusted networks
by rthrelkeld / October 16, 2005 10:19 PM PDT
In reply to: Zone alarm

ZA prevents shares connecting on untrusted networks. If you mark your network as trusted, you should be able to get to any share you want on that network and they should be able to get to your shares.

I have been using ZA for several years - currently the ZA security suite. Though it is occasionally a pain in the ***, it has protected me very well and I would not compute without it. I have it on 7 of 8 of my machines. I have a hardware firewall, but it does not allow me to configure my fixed IP machines very well.


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Zone Alarm works fine
by gabby528 / October 19, 2005 10:17 AM PDT
In reply to: Zone alarm

You need to TEACH or tell Zone Alarm that the other computer is no threat. From the Main ZA menu select the 'Firewall' tab on the left side of the screen.
Then select the 'Zones' tab near the top of the screen. Then ADD an IP address or Site name. Use the name you gave the other computer when you set up your network (or IP if they are static) You might be required to use the NAME if you have a router using DHCP.

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Zone Alarm Pro
by ltring / October 17, 2005 8:12 PM PDT

I too have used zone alarm pro for a while, and when I changed over to broadband I was told I no longer needed zone alarm pro. True or false?


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Zone Alarm Pro / broadband
by harryoosterveen / October 17, 2005 9:52 PM PDT
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I can't think of any good reason why you would not need ZA Pro anymore after changing to broadband access. I'd say, the wider your access to Internet, the more need you have for a good firewall!

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Do you need ZA for broadband? More than ever!
by PHRELOAD / October 21, 2005 2:45 PM PDT
In reply to: Zone Alarm Pro

Yes, broadband is the primary environment for privacy invasion and trojans, worms, etc. You will definately need protection.

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ZoneAlarm Nightmare!
by pancake_dave / October 18, 2005 10:15 AM PDT

I have had so many system problems which come down to ZA processes hogging my processor for ages. I have used ZA for a while and it does a good job with anti virus and indeed the firewall works well, but the trade off for system problems is just not worth it. It even blocks Outlook for retrieving email, even though it's an allowed app.

I tried a program called F-secure (because my ISP supplies it for free!) and it was a revelation! It actually works and doesn't cause other problems with background activity slowing down my whole system like ZA. It's SPAM filter is also really good.

If you are thinking of a firewall, avoid the Zone Alarm nightmare!

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ZA Processes
by mike4469 / October 19, 2005 10:09 AM PDT
In reply to: ZoneAlarm Nightmare!

I have never seen a Zone Alarm process (i.e. true vector process) take more than 1% of system resources. What was the name of the resource hogging process and what was is CPU time?

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ZoneAlarm Nightmare?
by gabby528 / October 19, 2005 10:27 AM PDT
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I have only noticed ZA causing slowness on older machines like PII or machines with too little RAM.
TRY running ANY modern MEMORY HOG software without adequate RAM and of course it will slow things down.
My machine is a 2.8 Ghz with 512mb ram and I cant see a difference with ZA on or off.

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firewall vs virus protection
by kmbard / October 14, 2005 7:11 AM PDT

The firewall is not designed to block viruses, but hackers from tapping into your computer

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you use both?
by sharee100 / October 14, 2005 6:47 AM PDT
In reply to: (NT) i use both

wireless or wired router? I started with wireless until I discovered that the ice cream truck that goes by daily can pick up on my network. I switched to wired router, zone alarm, and norton systemworks.

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Re: wireless vs wired router
by dclevett / October 20, 2005 9:53 AM PDT
In reply to: you use both?

You didn't need to move to a wired router to keep your local ice cream salesman from picking up your network. Configure your wireless to inhibit SSID broadcast, enable 128 bit WEP to begin with and then review the contents of wireless network security forums. With regards to the original topic of this discussion, I have 1 software (Zone Alarm free version) and 2 hardware (router and motherboard)firewalls, in addition to virus and malware protection software.

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by kbennett50 / October 15, 2005 6:25 AM PDT
In reply to: (NT) i use both

A router does not act in anyway as an antivirus system. It is a hardware firewall protecting you from incoming attack, however it does not monitor outgoing data from your computer.

For a simple router like a Dlink, do yourself a favor and get a software firewall and don't think just because you've got a firewall in your router, think that gives protection against a virus, trojan or worm.

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if that's enough protection from things like virus
by dawillie / January 24, 2005 11:53 AM PST

a firewall will not protect you from virus infection, but no one in the form of Trojans can get through.

you / your mother shld also run AV protection.

several free ones availabe and a lot of ppl here use AVG.

you can either go to


and down load the one of your choice, or you can go to


and d/l AVG free version.

or you can purchase whatever AV you want.

but that is the most important of all three, firewall, Spyware Protection and AV.

hope this helps.

please post back if further clarification is required.

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ZONE ALARM PRO and Anti-Virus
by lbmurray / October 14, 2005 5:22 AM PDT

My Zone Alarm Pro also has Anti-Virus and also the SK Spyware Killer; for a while I also ran the free AVG anti-virus but there seemed to be a conflict with Zone Alarm. So, since I had paid for the package, I decided to keep the whole Zone Alarm. As extra protection, I open my POP3 mail through Yahoo which has a different anti-virus and it seems to work well.

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re: Router firewall or ZoneAlarm???
by sp_100 / January 24, 2005 1:22 PM PST

You must have an antivirus application ? firewall is NOT a substitute.

Since you already have a routed (with rudimental firewall options), you may get away with Windows Firewall. However, if doing a lot of "bad" stuff (porn, p2p, etc.), install ZoneAlarm or Sygate Personal Firewall (both are free), and disable Windows Firewall.

Spyware information is here:
(Local Tools, Online Scans ...)

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One more thing
by holtnr / January 25, 2005 10:51 PM PST

Just don't neglect an occasional check of your router manufacturer's web site for firmware updates. Nothing out there is invulnerable.

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Hardware Firewall not rudimental
by tbcass / January 27, 2005 7:33 PM PST

Consensus is that the firewealls built into routers is better than the software ones. That said I would use both. If you have more than one computer connected to the router you should definitly have software firewalls installed on all your computers.

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Zone Alarm v.s. Sygate Personal Firewall
by fisheou / January 29, 2005 1:08 AM PST

I used to use Zone Alarm a few years ago and switched to Sygate which I am very happy with. Zone Alarm seemed to use more resources and hogged up memory.

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