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Recycle Bin NEVER has files in it (but icon shows it's full)

by throstur / February 28, 2006 8:14 PM PST

I probably need online support for this, but my recycle bin is always empty (with the 'full of files' icon), and when I use disk clean it says that it's taking about 10% of my hard drive space. I've changed the settings and made the system delete files without sending it to the can (since it's impossible to restore anyway) but it changes nothing. When I delete stuff, however, such as music from my iTunes folder, the disk space STILL goes up as normal, but the Recycle Bin, seems to be there for display purposes only.

Also, on my 37.2 GB HDD (mostly compressed), Anti-Virus often takes about 10 hours to complete, I cannot decompress the files (scenario: ~30GB -> 50GB > 37.2, not enough space). I tired changing process priority to high, realtime, and ultimately low to see if it changes anything, and I realise no changes. What could be contributing to this crap? (appart from spyware, please do not mention spyware as I am aware of how to exterminate these bugs)

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Drove my IT nuts. Why (here)?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 28, 2006 8:28 PM PST

The icon for empty and full on my machine is reversed. There are tweak tools to change the icon for full and empty so check how you've set it.

-> "about 10 hours"

If this was my machine I'd PERFORM the procedure at the next link I provide. Some will overanalyze and not perform the simple procedure. No reboot is needed and the effect is immediate. If you can't perform, then you may be missing out on a common and simple fix.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/IDE-DMA.mspx

Cheers,

Bob

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NOT so sure...
by throstur / February 28, 2006 8:34 PM PST

I could try this, but my computer was originally good and if i place a file in the bin it does not "empty", in other words, I dont have the right symptoms...

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Nothing to try. Something you must do.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 28, 2006 8:39 PM PST
In reply to: NOT so sure...

If you did not check the icon for full and empty, who's to say it's correct? Sorry to see you miss part of this simple fix.

I'll repeat. You can assign any icon to denote the full or empty status of the recycle bin. I can set my bin to show empty when it's not and vice versa.

Also, you can set the files to just delete rather than go to the recycle bin (right click properties on the bin).

Too bad I missed which OS since 95/98 and ME have some other issues as well. But I don't know if it applies.

Bob

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Already done
by throstur / March 1, 2006 12:56 AM PST

I've already done the things ur sugessting and it doesnt show symptoms

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icon
by Jerrysr / March 4, 2006 1:34 AM PST

I have the same problem and have tried resetting the icons and it did not work.

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Do this!
by throstur / March 4, 2006 2:04 AM PST
In reply to: icon

Open up notepad, and paste following into it:

--PASTE EVERYTHING BELOW THIS LINE--

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\BitBucket]
"NukeOnDelete"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]
@="Recycle Bin"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]
@="Recycle Bin"
"InfoTip"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,\
00,53,00,48,00,45,00,4c,00,4c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,\
2d,00,32,00,32,00,39,00,31,00,35,00,00,00
"SortOrderIndex"=dword:00000060
"IntroText"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,\
00,53,00,48,00,45,00,4c,00,4c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,\
2d,00,33,00,31,00,37,00,34,00,38,00,00,00
"LocalizedString"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,\
6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,\
00,5c,00,53,00,48,00,45,00,4c,00,4c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,\
2c,00,2d,00,38,00,39,00,36,00,34,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\DefaultIcon]
@=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,68,00,\
65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,33,00,31,00,00,\
00
"Empty"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\
00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,\
68,00,65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,33,00,31,\
00,00,00
"Full"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\
00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,\
68,00,65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,33,00,32,\
00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\InProcServer32]
@="shell32.dll"
"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,00,20
"CallForAttributes"=dword:00000040

--PASTE EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE--

save the file as an "*.reg" file to the desktop and "run" it.

if there's an error, remove the top line which says "Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00", but it should work like that.

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edit
by Jerrysr / March 4, 2006 2:07 AM PST
In reply to: Do this!

Thanks, but just fixed with the downloaded file.

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Will this work with vista?
by pyrapurcell / August 12, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
In reply to: Do this!

Does the following below work with windows vista as well?


Open up notepad, and paste following into it:

--PASTE EVERYTHING BELOW THIS LINE--

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\BitBucket]
"NukeOnDelete"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]
@="Recycle Bin"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]
@="Recycle Bin"
"InfoTip"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,\
00,53,00,48,00,45,00,4c,00,4c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,\
2d,00,32,00,32,00,39,00,31,00,35,00,00,00
"SortOrderIndex"=dword:00000060
"IntroText"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,\
6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,\
00,53,00,48,00,45,00,4c,00,4c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,\
2d,00,33,00,31,00,37,00,34,00,38,00,00,00
"LocalizedString"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,\
6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,\
00,5c,00,53,00,48,00,45,00,4c,00,4c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,\
2c,00,2d,00,38,00,39,00,36,00,34,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\DefaultIcon]
@=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,68,00,\
65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,33,00,31,00,00,\
00
"Empty"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\
00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,\
68,00,65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,33,00,31,\
00,00,00
"Full"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\
00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,\
68,00,65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,33,00,32,\
00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\InProcServer32]
@="shell32.dll"
"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,00,20
"CallForAttributes"=dword:00000040

--PASTE EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE--

save the file as an "*.reg" file to the desktop and "run" it.

if there's an error, remove the top line which says "Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00", but it should work like that.

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please help
by SnoCk123 / January 19, 2013 8:42 AM PST
In reply to: Do this!

I have a problem when i run the ".reg" file i says
"some keys are open by the system or other processes"

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(NT) Tried Running The File While In Safe Mode?
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / January 20, 2013 9:58 AM PST
In reply to: please help
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Re: Recycle Bin NEVER has files in it (but icon shows it's f
by Tufenuf / February 28, 2006 9:10 PM PST

throstur, For the Recycle Bin problem go to the link below and under the letter "R" scroll down to "Recycle Bin - Deleting Problems" where you'll find many possible fixes including "Replace/Repair the Recycle Bin (Line 64)" which has worked for many others.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_abc.htm

Tufenuf

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Solved!
by throstur / March 1, 2006 1:44 AM PST

After only 45 minutes I finally solved the problem thanks to Tufenuf. Appearently I had to add some registry

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(NT) (NT) throstur , Good Job & Thanks for posting back
by Tufenuf / March 1, 2006 1:46 AM PST
In reply to: Solved!
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by Jerrysr / March 4, 2006 2:05 AM PST

Just fixed mine. Thanks

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Do you have Norton?
by tomron / February 28, 2006 10:02 PM PST
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This problem occured before I had Norton
by throstur / March 1, 2006 1:29 AM PST
In reply to: Do you have Norton?

I have it, but the problem occured about 2 years ago, and I only just got norton last month

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(NT) (NT) It was just a thought,thanx for posting back
by tomron / March 1, 2006 3:04 AM PST
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Recycle Bin
by kenr7485 / March 2, 2006 10:42 PM PST

Right click on the Desktop and Click Properties - Desktop Tab - Customize Desktop - and change the Recycle Bin Icon.

Compressing a Hard Drive will make your computer very very slow. Hard drives are very inexpensive now. Watch the adds and buy a bigger second hard drive.

Ken

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To this I am aware - BUT I NEED HELP!
by throstur / March 3, 2006 6:41 AM PST
In reply to: Recycle Bin

I am completely aware of the consequences, but honestly I am not a very rich person, this computer was bought over 4 years ago and I have been saving for all this time for a new computer. In about half a year I will have aquired enough money to fund a new, MONSTER! (I look greatly forward to it) And I will then have an extremely large HDD (Dual threaded if possible). Also I am planning on decompressing the hard disk, but I am in need of only one thing!:

How much free space (out of ~37.2GB) do I need to completely decompress the harddisk?

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Decompressing the Hard Disk
by tavy022 / March 3, 2006 9:58 AM PST

I can't tell you exactly how much space you will need because different files compress differently. I can however tell you how to figure that out.

First, there is possibly a quick way to see the size of the files on your disk. I do not have any compressed disks, so I don't know if this works. You can try opening My Computer and right clicking on the hard drive's icon, then clicking ''Properties''. This will list the space taken up on your hard drive, but I am unsure if it will tell you about how much space you will need to uncompress your files.

If that does not work I'm sure this will.

You will need to open My Computer. Then double click on the hard drive's icon in the My Computer window (or single click if your computer is set up that way).

In the menu at the top click ''Edit'', then click ''Select All'' (or you can use the key combination Ctrl+A). You will probably get a message warning about hidden files, but these files are usually not very large. Press ok on this dialog box. (If you need to see these files, and don't know how to view them, I can tell you how to view hidden files in a later post.)

After all files are selected, right click on any file or folder in the window and select ''Properties''.

In this dialog you should see several properties. You should see:

Type: Multiple Types
Location: All in C:\ (if your hard drive is C:\)
Size: (this should be the total uncompressed size of the files and about how much space you will need to uncompress your entire drive)
Size on Disk: (this is how much space the files are taking up currently)


If this didn't explain in enough detail or if you have any more questions let me know.

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Thanks for this
by throstur / March 3, 2006 9:34 PM PST

Thank you, I have done as you requested (although I probably could have thought of it myself if I hadn't planned on decompressing folders such as windows, during the night, and so work my way down the folders), and even though the sizes are still loading, and I seem to have some files that take up literally no space (XXXXXXX files , XXXXX folders - increases rapidly without space increments) I see that with:

Size: 30.8 GB
Size on disk: 24.6 GB

I should probably need circa 10 GB free (for less performance loss)

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just delete the recycle bin's INFO file.

start the computer up in safe mode with command prompt.
type "cd c:\" without the (")s.
then, type "del recycler"
if it says it can't find recycler, type this:
"del recycle"
if you still can't delete it, then, telephone Microsoft about "deleting the INFO file in the recycle bin. The info file has all the data about everything in the recycle bin. If the INFO file is deleted, everything in the recycle bin cannot be seen, and in cleanup utilites it will say the recycle bin is empty. If you have a bad INFO file, you can't empty the recycle bin.
If you Delete the whole recycle bin and windows will make a new INFO file, plus fixing the recycle bin. after you have deleted the recycle bin, restart you computer at once.

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Already Solved, but thanks
by throstur / March 4, 2006 10:33 PM PST

Thats a pretty nice quick half-hour fix, but this problem has already been solved.

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I have the same problem
by drewnoakes / September 9, 2010 6:47 AM PDT

I have the same problem as you, and if I understand you correctly then none of the replies here were appropriate. I do *not* have inverted recycle bin icons. There are files in there (I can see them in C:\$Recycle.Bin) and in fact the icon shows paper in the basket.

However opening the recycle bin in Explorer shows nothing in the right-hand panel, where you would normally see files. I am able to empty the recycle bin, only I can't see what I'm emptying. Thankfully I haven't needed to get any files back for a while.

Did you ever sort this problem out?

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Oops
by drewnoakes / September 9, 2010 6:48 AM PDT

Sorry I posted this to the wrong thread after confusing tabs while signing up. Never mind Happy

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