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Recovery (d:) Drive Showing Full - Can't see files

by Tilapia2006 / February 26, 2011 1:12 AM PST

Running XP on an HP Pavillion 500.

For several months now, I've received a low disk space warning for my recovery drive (d). When I select the disk cleanup, it "cleans up" nothing really ... an already empty recycle bin, etc. It continues to show 4.87gb used and 32mb free. I've opened the folder (with show hidden files option) and I cannot find anything taking up that space. The files in the folder aren't a fraction of the 4.87gb.

However, I ran chkdsk d: and here's what it found:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is FAT32.
Volume HP_RECOVERY created 1/5/2003 2:51 PM
Volume Serial Number is 7EFA-09BD
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
5,108,092 KB total disk space.
984,768 KB in 36 hidden files.
624 KB in 125 folders.
4,089,924 KB in 8,954 files.
32,772 KB are available.

4,096 bytes in each allocation unit.
1,277,023 total allocation units on disk.
8,193 allocation units available on disk.

I don't see those 8,954 files anywhere in the folder. How do I find them and delete them?

I also ran the following from command prompt, dir d:\ /a and here is the result.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>dir d:\ /a
Volume in drive D is HP_RECOVERY
Volume Serial Number is 7EFA-09BD

Directory of d:\

07/28/2001 07:07 AM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT
01/09/2002 08:52 PM 244 BOOT.INI
04/06/2002 12:13 AM <DIR> cmdcons
08/17/2001 10:26 AM 237,728 CMLDR
07/28/2001 07:07 AM 0 CONFIG.SYS
12/14/2001 07:51 PM 266 Desktop.ini
02/21/2002 03:34 AM 8,102 Folder.htt
04/30/2001 09:16 PM 14 GRAPH
04/06/2002 12:14 AM <DIR> hp
07/28/2001 07:07 AM 0 IO.SYS
04/06/2002 12:08 AM <DIR> MiniNT
07/28/2001 07:07 AM 0 MSDOS.SYS
07/25/2001 11:00 PM 45,124 NTDETECT.COM
08/17/2001 04:32 PM 0 NTFS
07/25/2001 11:00 PM 222,880 NTLDR
04/25/2002 10:46 PM <DIR> PRELOAD
04/30/2001 09:16 PM 14 SVGA
02/09/2002 01:44 AM 88,038 Warning.bmp
01/20/2008 11:38 AM 8,192 ffastun0.ffx
04/25/2002 03:46 PM 6 BLOCK.RIN
01/05/2003 02:51 PM <DIR> I386
04/25/2002 03:47 PM 348 MASTER.LOG
08/18/2001 04:00 PM 10 WIN51
01/22/2001 04:00 PM 11 WIN51.B2
07/25/2001 04:00 PM 11 WIN51.RC1
07/25/2001 09:47 PM 11 WIN51.RC2
08/18/2001 04:00 PM 10 WIN51IC
03/20/2001 04:00 PM 11 WIN51IC.B2
07/25/2001 04:00 PM 11 WIN51IC.RC1
07/25/2001 04:00 PM 11 WIN51IC.RC2
08/17/2001 04:00 PM 10 WIN51IP
01/22/2001 04:00 PM 11 WIN51IP.B2
07/25/2001 09:47 PM 11 WIN51IP.RC2
08/17/2001 02:17 PM 184 WINBOM.INI
01/05/2003 03:24 PM 18 USER
01/20/2008 11:38 AM 24,576 ffastun.ffl
01/20/2008 11:38 AM 16,384 ffastun.ffo
01/20/2008 11:38 AM 4,127 ffastun.ffa
02/25/2011 03:53 PM 1,007,349,760 pagefile.sys
08/19/2002 01:57 PM <DIR> Recycled
08/19/2002 01:57 PM <DIR> System Volume Information
34 File(s) 1,008,006,123 bytes
7 Dir(s) 33,558,528 bytes free

What do you make of this? If anyone can help me resolve this issue, I will be thoroughly grateful. I feel like I'm so close to clearing it up, but these stupid files are in some sort of Bermuda Triangle on my recovery drive.

Thanks in advance (sorry for long post).
Jason

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Usually after registry cleaning folk report this.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 26, 2011 2:08 AM PST

This error message on google finds it's been discussed to death. My recurring fix is to disable low space reporting on drive d since it's not for our use but for the recovery system.
Bob

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but the files
by Tilapia2006 / February 26, 2011 2:32 AM PST

I know that I can disable the low space message, but that doesn't address the files on the recovery partition that shouldn't be there. For instance, there are 8,954 files taking up nearly 4gb that should NOT be on that partition. However, I cannot see these files anywhere in the folder (even with hidden files shown). I can't find them to delete them. I was only aware of them thanks to the chkdsk scan. So rather than bandaid the issue by turning off the low disk space message, I'd like to find and access those files in order to remove them from the recovery partition, thus solving the issue completely. Is there a way to access and remove those files to clean up the recovery partition?

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Can you tell us more about this D Recovery partition?
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 26, 2011 3:12 AM PST
In reply to: but the files

What is this D recovery partition and where did it come from?

Generally Recovery partitions are hidden from the OS. They don't display in Explorer, (eg My Computer), although they will display in Disk Management. But these partitions are hidden until they are required to perform a Factory Install, in effect wiping the C Drive and starting again.

The Volume on this drive is HP_RECOVERY according to that directory listing you gave, so I am guessing that it is an original recovery partition that came with your system when you got it.

If so, then I am not sure why you want to touch it.

So can you tell us more about this, and what you are wishing to achieve?

Mark

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pagefile
by Tilapia2006 / February 26, 2011 5:18 AM PST

The main issue seems to be from the huge pagefile being stored on the d: partition. The d: partition is, as you stated, the HP_RECOVERY, and has always been visible since I've owned the computer (bought it brand new). I've never messed with the d: partition, but for some reason a pagefile is being stored there, despite the fact I have "no paging" selected for the d: drive.

I even went in and disabled all paging, rebooted, found the pagefile in my d: drive and deleted it. I then reset the paging for the c: partition, making sure to keep paging disabled for the d: partition. But after reboot, a new pagefile was created and again placed in the d: partition ... which once again took up huge space and triggered the low space message. If I can stop that pagefile from showing up in the d: partition, I think that would solve the problem.

I still think there are other files on the d: partition which either don't belong there, or could be deleted, but the pagefile issue seems to be the main problem.

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Why would we say these are not supposed to be there?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 26, 2011 3:32 AM PST
In reply to: but the files

For a recovery system to work those files may be needed as we need an OS to boot. Those files are consistent with a well known OS.
Bob

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okay so then
by Tilapia2006 / February 26, 2011 2:25 PM PST

that really just leaves the pagefile issue. I can't figure out why that huge pagefile is being put into the d: partition. I have it set for no paging file on the d: volume, but even after deleting the pagefile, another one was created in the d: partition again. I can't figure out why that's happening, but if I could stop that, the low disk space warning would cease.

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As supplied I find the low space warning
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 27, 2011 9:19 AM PST
In reply to: okay so then

I find the low space warning disabled on recovery drives. What turned it on?

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I think it's fixed
by Tilapia2006 / February 27, 2011 3:44 PM PST

Here's what I found: I found an old pagefile on my c: partition. It was 656mb and when I tried to delete it, I'm told it cannot be deleted because the file or directory is corrupted and unreadable.

I figured that could be causing the system to be unable to write the pagefile to the c: partition as it's set up to do, and instead to write it to the only other available volume, the d: (recovery) partition. If so, how do I fix that?

Here's what I did: I turned off paging on all drives, rebooted. Then I was able to delete the old corrupted pagefile off of c: partition. I rebooted again, then I decided to run a defrag, which was needed.

I turned paging back on for c: partition, no paging for d: partition, and did a final reboot. The system created a new pagefile in c: as it was set to do, and no pagefile in the d: recovery drive, and I have not received a single low space message. Free space on d: is still only 992mb in a total size of 4.87gb, but the ratio is enough to stop the low space messages. So all seems to be well now ... unless anyone thinks something else should be done?

Many thanks to all of you here for guiding me along.
Cheers,
Jason

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That seems good
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 27, 2011 7:39 PM PST
In reply to: I think it's fixed

Great work in solving this yourself.

It looks like Windows got itself confused, and you have resolved it.

Thanks for reporting back.

Mark

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hidden files
by lakels / May 16, 2011 9:18 AM PDT
In reply to: but the files

I'm having a similar issue. After using Windows Easy Transfer my PC started showing D: partition is almost full, and has been gradually getting filled more. When I show hidden files I can't seem to find anything 'deletable'. As far as I can see, the files that remain seem to be all of the ones HP says not to delete. I ran chkdsk and got the following:

D:\chkdsk d:
The type of this file system is NTFS.
The volume is in use by another process.
Chkdsk might report errors when no corruption is present.
Volume label is HP_RECOVERY.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running chkdsk in read-only mode

CHKDSK is verifying files ...
9344 file records processed.
File verification completed.
1 large file records processed.
0 bad file records processed.
0 EA records processed.
0 reparse records processed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes ...
9392 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files processed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors ...
9344 security descriptors processed.
Security descriptor verification completed.
24 data files processed.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
6932046 KB total disk space.
6901344 KB in 109 files.
112 KB in 26 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
22534 KB in use by the system.
12272 KB occupied by the log file.
8056 KB available on disk.
4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
1733011 total allocation units on disk.
2014 allocation units available on disk.

Any suggestions? I would like to free up the space rather than just prevent the 'Disk Full' balloon from appearing.

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