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Really need advise with this brochure layout! Help,please?

by EmiliaEmiliaEmilia / March 19, 2009 5:11 PM PDT

Hi everyone,

The project I really need advise with is a brochure with following specifications:
Page dimensions - 30 x 30 cm , 24 pages body plus a cover.
The body is to be printed on lighter , 60 gsm uncoated stock.
The cover is to be printed on a different , heavy stock, 200 gsm, and printed only on the face side - the inside of the cover must be blank.
The print is to be done in offset.
The cover and the body are to be put together with saddle stitch.

My approach was to create the cover as a separate document size 30 x 60 cm as a single page, layout program set to non-facing pages.
When printed, the folded body pages created as separated facing-pages document will be inserted into folded cover and everything saddle stitched together.

However was told that this sort of brochure can be created on one go as a single, facing pages file.

Now I don't know how to solve some problems:

1. How the pre-press operators will know that the cover must be outputted on a different stock? All pages of the brochure layout which includes the cover now look the same.
2. How to build the layout in a way that the inside of cover will be left blank?

So far the only way to make this brochure is to make the cover as a separate document but I may be wrong -I'm just a student with very limited competency!

(By the way the layout programs I can use for this task are Quark and less confidently - InDesign on Mac platform)

Can some professional, please, tell me how to build this brochure step-by step in a way professionals do?


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by vikestackle / March 22, 2009 4:39 PM PDT

if you are getting this printed at a print shop- just simply state in your directions that the cover and back will be cardstock and inside cover pages blank, no?

I was a supervisor of a print center for a few years, simple instructions and basic, they get those requests daily.

But you stated something about press.

Laying it out, just make your quark/indesign pages the correct size (which would be double length after fold and staple) leaving space for a full bleed (quarter inch all the way around so they can cut them to full bleed if needed) A lot of print shops color printers dont do full bleed printing so i would find that out right away so you can properly set it up. The only tricky part is setting up the pages setup in the correct order to come straight out the printer correct.

Then just have them trim the pages down to proper size.

I guess to better answer your questions:

Where are you getting this printed?

Are you able to submit directions to the printer?

Its late so hopefully i didnt scramble gibberish.

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by bbuck822 / April 3, 2009 3:01 PM PDT

First thing to do is make a dummy or mock-up. This can be achieved by taking small pieces of paper to represent actual 30 x 60 sheet sizes. You will need six pieces of paper. Each one is called a signature. Now you will take each one and put them together into a book form and fold it in half. You will now have 24 pages. You can now go through each page and number it 1-24. Next you take the first page (with the numbers 1, 2, 23, & 24 on it) and layout you document with those pages as they appear on your dummy. Make sure to leave enough of a border all the way around with a gutter that is twice the width of your border (ex: .5" border = 1" gutter). If you are going to press with this booklet then you will need to have at least 3/8" for gripper on your leading edge. If any of this sounds completely foreign to you then it would be in yours and the printers best interest to go in and sit down with a representative to go over basic layout procedures as well as what their file requirements are. You will also want to tell them exactly what kind of paper you need it printed on as well as the finished size and that it needs to be saddle stiched. They will probably trim 1/8" off of the folded edge after saddle stitching is completed to make an even edge. I hope this helps you get started which sometimes is the hardest part.

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