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Poor home wireless signal in out building

by rescuerat / July 12, 2010 9:13 AM PDT

I have dsl with a wireless router in my home. I have an out building 400-500 feet away. The outbuilding is wood construction but the foam board insulation has a foil backing and the roof is metal. I can get one bar on the laptop if I set it in the window. I want stronger reception in the building. I can buy a range extender but I am worried that due to the building construction, I may recieve signal better but I wont be able to transmit back to the house from the laptop while inside the building.
Is there an antenna I can put on the house connected to my current router by cable and another on the outbuilding with another wireless modem inside the shop connected to the antenna. Cost effective ideas would be much appreciated.

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by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 12, 2010 10:08 AM PDT

This is not to write in any deep detail but share the setup. Ready?

Use a BRIDGE and wire the bridge to the WAN port of the wifi router. Setup is not going to be written up by me. You have a second option of using the bridge and wifi router combo in another mode if you read about post 18 in this forum's sticky.

The BRIDGE unit would be in the window or outside. The wifi router would be inside the building.

For me this would be under 1/2 an hour to setup.

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by rescuerat / July 12, 2010 12:15 PM PDT
In reply to: Yes.

To start I need to find out if the Westel Router Model 327w I have now is wirless G or N?

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I have the 327w.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 13, 2010 12:11 AM PDT
In reply to: gotcha,

It's 802.11g

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Thanks, with that being a G thinking of change in plan
by rescuerat / July 13, 2010 3:25 AM PDT
In reply to: I have the 327w.

I have dsl. Thinking about a Netgear N300 Dual Band Router WNDR3300 in my house (replacing the Westell 327w- G,) and then put a Netgear Wireless N Access point WN802T in the window of the outbuilding. Ideas or opinions or forwarnings?

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Just one.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 13, 2010 9:41 PM PDT

To get my netgear to connect to everything I configured it to 802.11g only. At least you can try N and decide later.

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same issue
by rescuerat / July 17, 2010 1:00 AM PDT
In reply to: Just one.

I was able to get half the system on the G side to be visable but even after activating the N side or different SSID I only see the G side over the avaliable wireless networks.
I have a netgear N access point I need to figure out how to put in repeater mode so I can rebroadcast another wireless signal if it will work that way. I see a G SSID and a G Guest1 SSID. Dont see the N and my new laptop is N compatable.

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Repeater mode?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 17, 2010 2:14 AM PDT
In reply to: same issue

The setup I described above used no repeaters or repeater mode. As you are trying something else you know more about that than I do.

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Sorry, just confused.
by rescuerat / July 17, 2010 8:48 AM PDT
In reply to: Repeater mode?

I have looked up and I think I understand the bridge and directional antenna method somewhat and that seems like that would be a better quality signal solution but I think it will get over my head and budget for what I need.
I dont know if I should or shouldnt try to put the Netgear N access point in repeater mode or not if it even supports that function.

So far I have changed to the "Netgear dual band 2.5/5 N router/dsl modem" all in one hoping to get a little more range and it stayed about the same. I have a new Netgear N access point in the box that I was hoping to set in the window of the out building that only has 1 or 2 bars of signal strength(in the window) so it would in theory, receive and send back to the main router while boosting the wifi inside the out building if it works that way or maybe I am on the wrong path.
I do not want to run a wired connection between the existing router/modem and the access point(too far and too much rock)so I am hoping it will receive and rebrodcast the signal wirelessly.
Do you think this method will have a chance or forget it and seek out the bridges and antennas method? I do thank you for your time and opinions.

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I reread the posts after my last
by rescuerat / July 17, 2010 9:23 AM PDT
In reply to: Sorry, just confused.

I reread your original replies and you didnt say I needed antennas, sorry. Is the bridge unit the actual antenna that gets mounted outside on my home end that gets pluged into a lan port on my existing dsl modem/router?
Then do I set just the access point at the outbuilding and plug into it with my laptop using a cable or wireless.

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I've used the usual setup
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT

I used the usual setup I noted more than a few times. Since the client device sits in the window or just outside (a better setup) then the stock antenna is usually all I need. I might fit a wavesurfer on it (watch and at about 2:30 minutes.)

I rarely find the repeaters or range extenders to work when I need to extend into a metal building.

As to cost I use 25 buck routers. If that's a budget buster I apologize that I don't know of any cheaper solution.

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omg, it works
by rescuerat / July 26, 2010 11:37 AM PDT

I was able to replace my modem/router with a new netgear dual band combo unit and put a netgear wireless access point in the window and enable the bridge/repeater function and now i have 5 bars inside the building. the set up for me had to be done with tech support on the phone to get the mac addresses talking to each other. now i can move the access point around the property as needed and it boosts the wifi as long as it gets some form of signal in from the orig. wifi router. thanks so much for the pointers. thanks for ur time helping people. jerry

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