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Partition a harddrive WITHOUT data loss

by SXR / June 25, 2007 1:09 AM PDT

Hello,

I was wondering , I have a lot of stuff on my 100 GB hard drive. And I want to make a dual boot system with Windows XP ( now installed ) and Linux Ubuntu. But can I make 1 or 2 partitions on my harddrive WITHOUT losing the data dat I have now? And without damagaing Windows XP? And then just install Linux on a partition. Is there a safe way to do this?

SXR

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Think of it this way:
by Papa Echo / June 25, 2007 2:13 AM PDT

If you have a good backup(read copies) of all your data, and can verify that you can access them, then what you want to do is safe. If you do not have a good backup, then it is not safe - whatever.

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No
by SXR / June 25, 2007 2:59 AM PDT
In reply to: Think of it this way:

I do not have a program to properly backup stuff. Or you mean create a restore point? Anyway , how do I create partitions without losing data??

SXR

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The only sure way is to have a copy of what you can't lose.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 25, 2007 5:03 AM PDT
In reply to: No

While many are successful in doing this, the ones that don't post here asking "How do I get my files back?"

Bob

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So
by SXR / June 25, 2007 5:36 AM PDT

So how do I actually create the Partition?

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Creating a partition in XP is drop dead easy.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 25, 2007 7:09 AM PDT
In reply to: So

If you have unpartitioned space then you run the Disk Management tool as noted at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309000

If you don't have unpartitioned space then a tool like PARTITION MAGIC is needed.

-> Let's ask one more question. Why do this?

There are some reasons floating about that it saves files during an OS reload which we can easily shoot down as "bad advice" but let's find out why you are doing this.

Bob

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Program....
by Papa Echo / June 25, 2007 8:10 AM PDT
In reply to: No

You already have the "program"-Windows Rxplorer. You make copies - to a pen drive, to an external drive, but these are only good copies. Invest in a DVD burner, burn them into CD-Rs, or DVD-Rs (not RWs), then they become much better than "good". If you think you have too much data to make these copies, do it anyway - use lots of DVDs. A good and free DVD burning program can be found at the www. Backup ! Things happen ! Then, and only then, find ways to partition.

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PM
by SXR / June 25, 2007 5:02 PM PDT
In reply to: Program....

So with partition magic I can parition already partitioned space without data loss? I want to create a dual boot system between Windows and Linux.

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Now we're talking.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 25, 2007 11:29 PM PDT
In reply to: PM

That LINUX CD. Most come with the capability to resize the partitions and save the Windows, files and all.

It's taken many posts for you to reveal this but you didn't tell which Distro. The top ten all do this fine but even PM and these can occasionally lose it all. Your choice to not lose it all.

Bob

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Ajh
by SXR / June 25, 2007 11:43 PM PDT
In reply to: Now we're talking.

So if I get it right: I can just install Linux ubuntu from running the Linux CD. And it automaticly resizes my partition ( or I can do it ) without any dataloss??

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Just a search showing how.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 25, 2007 11:50 PM PDT
In reply to: Ajh
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=UBUNTU+dual+boot+Windows

All this is thoroughly documented. May I ask why you don't do it their way?

And I see all pages note "Backing up your important data before beginning any install is especially important." We note that here since too many posts ask how to get their files back after use of Partition Magic and other such softwares. Not that it fails everytime, just for those that didn't backup.

Bob
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Confirm
by SXR / June 25, 2007 11:59 PM PDT

So just confirm this for me , Linux Ubuntu installer can resize a partition and create free space. Then install Ubuntu on it. So no other apps are needed. I know about the backup stuff, a restore point will do ?

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No, a restore point won't do.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 26, 2007 12:05 AM PDT
In reply to: Confirm

As to Ubuntu they have a few variants but the one I used from the top ten distro list does NOT require me to own partition resizing or creation software. It does it all by answering "yes" to most install questions.

Bob

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Restore point will do ?
by Papa Echo / June 26, 2007 12:06 AM PDT
In reply to: Confirm

No, Oh! No, Sir ! Definitely not ! If it happens, you will have no restore points !

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Not guaranteed. If...
by Papa Echo / June 25, 2007 11:46 PM PDT
In reply to: PM

Again, if you have backed up your files, or made copies of them, you won't lose your data, what ever you use. If there are no backups, you may lose your files and more. Things can happen. Let's say- if partitioning your HD screws it up and removes all the files or their access, you still have your files or data, whatever you like to call them - if, and only if, you have copies.

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(NT) ok
by SXR / June 26, 2007 2:07 AM PDT
In reply to: Not guaranteed. If...
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The Command to backup...
by Papa Echo / June 26, 2007 7:42 AM PDT
In reply to: ok

If you use a backup program(I have never used one.), find instructions which comes with it. For me, I make copies. The "commands" ? Ctrl+C then Ctrl+V, or, if you like, File>Copy, then File> Paste. That's for good copies. For burning unto CDs, you usually drag the files unto the program's "burning project" window - there should be instructions -and there is usually a "wizard" which simplily things.

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by SXR / June 26, 2007 5:12 PM PDT

Im sorry. I don't think that your talking about the right things here..
I dont mean my doc's. But the programs and everything. And NTBACKUP doesnt work for me. Cuase I dont have a windows CD but I do have a legal windows copy. The windows "CD" is on a partition on my harddrive.

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Well...
by Papa Echo / June 26, 2007 6:09 PM PDT
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...that's because you did not tell the right things. You do not backup programs - you keep their disks in a safe place and use them to reinstall your programs when you have to. If the recovery copy of Windows is in a hidden partition, then you create a CD for it - instructions should have come with the computer, but look through the start menu or the Control Panel for items which may enable you to create that important CD. You should also have the CD key to the legal copy. This may help in getting a copy of Windows at norminal cost. May I also suggest that you google for "Belarc Advisor", download and run it. keep a copy of the results-which contains lots of information about your computer- programs, licence keys, etc.

Wait for more advice from other CNet forum members.

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Partition a harddrive WITHOUT data loss
by Noizxland / June 26, 2007 9:46 PM PDT
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The problem here (with Disk Director) is...
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 26, 2007 10:53 PM PDT

That once in awhile you lose it all. This is not absolutely safe no matter what software is used. Those that don't backup are the most likely to learn why people talk and write so much about it.

Bob

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Cant
by ferrari12508 / June 29, 2007 9:44 AM PDT

You need to reformat the drive to partition, and when reformatting you will lose all of your data

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?
by christy / July 8, 2007 9:40 PM PDT
In reply to: Cant

I thought you partition first, then formart the partitions ? Now I am confused !

christy

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