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To ayeep89. Post deleted.
No advertising in these forums.
I don't think he is advertising.
I might be mistaken but aren't OEM licensed copies of software simply the software without the boxing and consumer packaging? As such, wouldn't changing the policy in this regard make no sense at all. That is unless Microsoft is trying to stiff its customers. Again.
Try this in the forum.
1.) The "no advertising" post was concerning a post made by another member, since deleted. You are correct that the announcement/notification is not advertising.
2.) OEM software usually has additional licensing restrictions. In the case of Windows, it used to mean that you had to purchase the license with a qualifying piece of hardware, did not receive free Microsoft support, could never transfer the license to another computer once installed the first time, and could only replace the motherboard with one of the same make/model. Microsoft modified those terms to exclude those purchasing OEM licenses for their own use, something they did not originally intended for customers to do, but also permitted.
if you build a pc for a friend and charge them a six-pack of beer, technically you've satisfied the license terms. and when that friend inevitably turns to you for "tech support", again you've satisfied the license terms.
the moral is always demand a six-pack before doing a friend a favor. it'll keep microsoft off your back and make that saturday afternoon of pc building a lot more enjoyable.
Friend and 6-pack
Probably need to make sure you don't like each other or M$ will get you. Sad and frustrating state of affairs.
Free Tech Support For Microsoft
If Microsoft had to pay every person on forums across the internet who gave currently "free" support on their product, they'd go broke. When Microsoft pulls this sort of increasing snootiness, I'm more of the opinion that all forums providing help for windows users should post a notice to seek all support direct from Microsoft only and let them deal with the actual cost of their product. If Microsoft had to give tech support all by themselves to every windows user who had a problem using their product, I suspect they'd eventually go bankrupt. Such a move would also increase the number of employees Microsoft would need and thereby increase the number of jobs available, hopefully in this country. Isn't it odd part of their increasingly stranglehold licensing requirements never REQUIRE all support for Microsoft products to be available ONLY from Microsoft? If they did, then you'd not only pay for the operating system or other software, you'd have to pay for the support separate.
what about the windows 7 upgrade for 3 pc''s??
I bought the win7 upgrade home version for up to 3 pc's. All my pc's. I ordered it straight from microsoft. And gave alot more money for that. Does this mean that since all my pc's have the same OEM number that I can't get upgrades or in trouble now?
The new interpretation of the licensing only applies to systems created after that date. Existing systems are not affected.
Just a point though on a different matter. You have 3 PC's, all running XP, and you want to upgrade all 3 to Windows 7. I am unsure if a single W7 upgrade disk is sufficient to upgrade all 3. If you only purchased a single W7 upgrade disk then you may want to carry out further research on how many times it can be used.
purchased a single W7 upgrade disk
REPLY TO MARKFLEX
I bought the upgrade from microsoft online. it wasn't available in stores yet. they gave you option's. i got the upgrade that could be used for win xp and vista. Since I had one xp pc and 2 vista pc's. It could be used for up to 3 pc's. they charged double the price for it, but saved a little overall in the 3 pc upgrade. They shipped it to me. Told me how to install on the xp and vista pc's and I even had tech support to help me on some problems with one of the new vista laptop's. But I think if you go to microsoft.com or use the program on your pc to see if you can upgrade to win 7. It still gives you the option of the upgrade for 3 pc's. Or it did a few weeks ago. I got just the home premium.
hopes this helps you understand more.
Thanks for that Deb.
I had to ask because we so often see posters in these forums who assume the can just install or upgrade Windows on multiple computers with just one disk, then complain when activation problems kick in.
But you seem to have done all the homework and that all looks good.
No, if the same OEM software is installed on each computer, just register the operating system by telephone to get three different licenses to upgrade the computer system. This can be accomplished in Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 Vista. Choose another way to register and click by telephone. Non remote eula operating system or full installation not upgrades require a separate license for each installation.
was addressed to a "ayeep89". Not to John.
I was a victim of my OEM WINXP liscense
A friend sold me a CD that was also valid and I don't have to go thru all the BS from MS. They wanted a legit key and I provided them with one, since my other one was legit and MS said it was legit. I'm using a recovery CD from a nonexistent computer with my legit COA from the side of my computer. No more hassles. Darrell
I now own a WIN 7 Home Premium (Compaq) it is an OEM
The WINXP was sent to a schoolteacher and the DELL had contained 4GB and a 160 GB HDD.
The Compaq, I have burned HP_Recovery(D) in the event something goes awry. There are two numbers for it. I have both on Belarc advisor. It says that if I update from Home Premium That can be changed. Darrell
Victim of OEM
Yes, the OEM sold you malware.
One difference between OEM and retail copies
of Windows is that Microsoft will support the retail version but the company that sold the OEM version has to support it. Also the OEM version is legally tied to the motherboard where as retail can be moved legally to another computer as long as it's not being used on the old computer.
i don't use window 7 good ,
why you hate advertising?
recently ,i considered whether make my second profession to be advertising .
Here at CNET (part of CBS) we love advertising. But only paid advertising! Posting ads in these forums for free isn't allowed. That's why such posts are deleted.
It is what you signed up to when you joined these forums.
Good luck with your second profession.
To OEM or not to OEM
So would you all recommend getting OEM or not?
1.) You are a system builder.
2.) You are selling it to an unrelated third party, not building it for yourself, friends, family.
3.) You intend to provide full technical support to the user you sell it to.
If all of those conditions are true, yes, I would recommend it as the cheaper option. Otherwise, a violation of the EULA would exist.
is there anywhere to get info if you've already made the mistake of buying OEM
Can you be more specific?
Existing OEM installs will not have their licensing terms changed, so if you already have a system with an OEM Windows installed you will see no difference and the new rules won't affect you.
So can you explain more about making a mistake of buying OEM?
I guess my problem was listening to the wrong people.I was convinced Microsoft was going to give me a hard time.this is the first time I bought everything and did it myself the retailer knew what I wanted it for but didn't say anything on the phone.After that allot of people figured I'd get trouble from Microsoft.I should have checked here earlier and saved some worry.Thank You
Still Dont Understand
I still don't understand what is OEM license. Is it true if you buy OEM the license would not work when you replaced your hardware configuration such as RAM and processor?
You can replace all of the hardware, including RAM and processor, with the exception of the motherboard. Should you replace the motherboard with another model out of need (due to failure) or desire (due to upgrade), the license is voided and you'll have to purchase a new Windows license.
In addition, keep in mind that the OEM license now prohibits you from buying the license for your own use; it's only valid if you buy the license, install Windows on the computer you built, and then sell the computer to a third-party.
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