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Windows July 2013 Update KB890830
Re Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool -- I installed all necessary updates yesterday, including Malicious Software Removal Tool.....it is showing in History as a successful install. This morning it is on Windows Update as needing to be installed.
Shall I install it again, and leave the first installed version as it is or uninstall it?
Miki, All Machines Here Did EXACTLY As You Have Seen
Although the initial round of updates showed the Malicious Software Removal Tool had been installed, upon running a second round of updates, the Removal Tool came up again as being needed.. Interesting enough, after running the second install of the Removal Tool, everything was fine and it no longer showed as an update.. The problem showed on Windows 7 AND on Windows XP and it occurred when checking the Windows Update site manually. I don't use Automatic Updates.
My advise; Run the Removal Tool installation a second time, leaving the first installation alone, and it should be good.
Hope this helps.
Looks like an update.
On July 10 I see an install of msrt and then a run of v4.22.
On July 11 I see an install of msrt and then a run of v5.2.
Why is that?.......I dunno.
So far nothing odd has happened.
Yep, You're Right... Bad Version Installed First
A minute ago, I mis-posted about the versions being the same. (I removed it so as not to cause confusion.) After checking the log at "C:\Windows\Debug\mrt.log" you can see the first version installed is 4.22 and the second is 5.2..
Clearly, Microsoft incorrectly released the wrong version during the first release.. June's version was 5.1 so something happened wrong at MS.
Hope this helps.
As always, Grif....my thanks.
Will remove the first version installed and replace it with the corrected version.......miki
Grif -- not listed
I checked the list on WU where there is the option to uninstall, but there was no version of KB890830,,,,checked by name and KB number. Is it listed by a name other than Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool July 2013 or somewhere else?
Nothing to uninstall
Grif and Bob
Please disregard my last post.....I misunderstood one of Grif's posts. I installed the second version, ignored the first version, and stopped looking for them on the uninstall list. Thank you, Grif and Bob.
Glad WE Could Help !
Thanks for the info, Bob...
FYI: Why does the MSRT install and run twice this month?
Microsoft Security Response Center:
July 2013 Security Bulletin Webcast Q&A
Hosts: Jonathan Ness, Security Development Manager
Dustin Childs, Group Manager, Response Communications
Chat Topic: July 2013 Security Bulletin Release
Date: Wednesday, July 10, 2013
Q: Why does the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) install and run twice this month? It runs once during the first pass through Windows Update, then if you run Windows Update again it shows that MSRT is needed again. Once it downloads and runs the second time, Windows Update no longer thinks it needs to run again.
A: We are in the process of rolling out a new version of MSRT and to manage the risk, we are releasing the new version in stages over a few months. In this month, if you let Windows Update automatically download, you will get the old version. But if you manually check for it, you will get the new version. This is possibly the reason for the two offerings.
Additional topics: http://blogs.technet.com/b/msrc/p/july-2013-security-bulletin-q-a.aspx
( Sorry I was late to the party. )
Better to be late for the party than to not come at all :)
Carol, Technet's Statement Isn't Quite Correct Here
The statement made: "In this month, if you let Windows Update automatically download, you will get the old version. But if you manually check for it, you will get the new version. " This isn't quite what I experience on ANY of the computers here.
I no longer use automatic updates.. Instead, I always use manual scans at the Windows Update site to download Windows updates.. In this case, with the MSRT, my first manual scan at the Windows Update site showed the first MSRT being needed.. After downloading and installing it, plus all the other updates, I restarted the computer and immediately ran another scan at the Windows Update site.. The second version of MSRT then appeared and was downloaded and installed. BOTH versions were needed, downloaded, and installed, even though I "manually checked" for it each time. It shows this to be the case in the mrt.log file I mentioned earlier in this thread.
Hope this helps.
Different experience here..
I always use manual scans to download the updates. Depending on the nature of the updates, how many and file size, I may "break up" the install. In other words, I download and install the first batch (restart) and then do the same with the remainder. I did it this month and the MSRT was part of the first batch. It's how and why I knew (after a restart) it wasn't offered a second time.
I didn't realize it was an issue, until I read this thread. I've since read the same elsewhere. (It doesn't appear to be OS related) The mrt.log indicates v5.2 (build 5.2.9201.0) ran. For the most part, I'm finding I'm in the minority. Unless, there's something I over-looked.
One of the hosts of the Webcast stated "This is possibly the reason for the two offerings." Could "possibly" mean .. they don't know any more (as to why) than
we I do?