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LOL, Obama kicks Atlantic City Mayor Off Christie Plane

by James Denison / November 1, 2012 / 11:20 PM UTC
Sometimes not even party nor race affiliation can let you run with the big dogs. Wink

As the two leaders took off in Marine
One for four-hour aerial tour of the Shore, Langford was left sulking
alone in the airplane hangar where Air Force One sat empty waiting for
the President's return.

I'm loving it!

This is what I was talking about, for Romney to leave this to Obama and keep pounding on the economic theme. There's more here for Obama to damage himself with than he will gain from.
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And he's right
by TONI H / November 2, 2012 / 4:11 AM UTC

BO went with Christie and promised FEMA funding......that's all Christie was interested in, and rightly so.....As for Romney, he couldn't promise FEMA funding so he would have just been in the way so he didn't go and wasn't invited, again rightly so. Bloomberg is the one who blew off the prez though because Bloomberg felt BO would be in the way. Now THAT'S priceless. (Of course, B had to do a little sucking up by endorsing BO right after that blow off, so all is good again lol)

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How could Romney promise FEMA funding....
by Josh K / November 2, 2012 / 6:04 AM UTC
In reply to: And he's right

.....with a straight face even after taking office (if he gets elected), being that he's on record saying he wants to dismantle and privatize FEMA?

And the president promised more than just FEMA funding. Christie has lavished him with praise for the way he's responded to this disaster and I bet you can't stand it.

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I guess you haven't noticed
by TONI H / November 2, 2012 / 6:52 AM UTC
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That wasn't "BO"
by Josh K / November 2, 2012 / 8:11 AM UTC

That was the Republicans in Congress, Toni, forcing FEMA to make spending cuts:

Hurricane Irene and the tropical storm Lee drained the Federal Emergency Management Agency of disaster relief funds. But House Republicans wanted to boost their funding only if Congress made equivalent spending cuts elsewhere, leading to a political stalemate that FEMA headed off only by rearranging its finances to get the agency through the end of the fiscal year.

So you can stop trying to claim that "BO wants to cut FEMA" because he doesn't, and didn't.

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It was BO
by TONI H / November 2, 2012 / 10:24 AM UTC
In reply to: That wasn't "BO"

HE was the one who created the sequestration ALL agreed to what HE decided was going to happen.

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(NT) no matter who led if all agree, all are responsible
by Roger NC / November 2, 2012 / 3:07 PM UTC
In reply to: It was BO
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I agree with you
by TONI H / November 3, 2012 / 12:04 AM UTC

It was Josh who tried to pin this all on the Reps in Congress and now Romney....I was only pointing out to him that BO created the bill and ALL agreed to it.

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There have been many contradictory claims this election turn
by grimgraphix / November 3, 2012 / 11:39 AM UTC
In reply to: That wasn't "BO"

Claims of fiscal and budgetary victory by conservatives who forced budget cuts down the Presidents throat less than 2 years ago have now turned into claims that Obama wants to cut defense, medicare, and now FEMA.

Everyone seems to have forgot the "fabulous" performance (read failure) of the budgetary super committee that have forced broad mandatory cuts in funding because they failed to decide a more finessed conclusion to the budget showdown the conservatives forced to begin with.

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If I was Romney
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 9:10 AM UTC

I'd contact the Mayor of Atlantic City who had to cool his heels while seething in the airport and tell him I was renting a chopper to visit the devastated area and ask if he'd like to come along. I'd tout that as showing he was the sort of person who could reach across the aisle and work together with Democrats. Make some promises of what he'd do as president to help the area next year when he's elected, etc.

That will give him as much exposure as Obama, also cause the new media to make note of the earlier slight by Obama of the Mayor, and burn in Governor Christie's craw like bad acid reflux.

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And if I was the mayor of Atlantic City.....
by Josh K / November 2, 2012 / 11:32 AM UTC
In reply to: If I was Romney

.....I'd tell Romney to go ahead but that he was on his own in terms of security and access to areas that are off limits to anyone other than rescue/recovery workers. The Atlantic City police and the NJ State Troopers have other things to do.

Romney is a private citizen right now. He has no official business in those areas, unlike the president.

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The Mayor does, and he
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 12:03 PM UTC

can have along Romney if he likes. Romney supplies the ride, the Mayor supplies the invite and tour. Both of them get to gripe the appropriate ones, especially the Mayor even more than Romney.

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(NT) Christie is focused on his job in N.J. and not the POTUS
by Steven Haninger / November 2, 2012 / 4:59 AM UTC
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Clearly you've never ridden in a helicopter.
by Ziks511 / November 2, 2012 / 7:03 AM UTC

There are 4 seats in many models, 1 pilot, 1 President 1 Governor, 1 Secret Service Agent. Helicopter filled. And no Standees, otherwise known as Flying Debris in a crisis. Given the Sikorsky Boeing model used for Marine 1 the odds were 2 pilots, I President, I Governor 2 Secret Service Agents and lots of Communication Equipment and a Communications Officer..

Do you not have the will to use your brain, or is it that you just don't care. Oh, and the Daily Mail? I know people who won't let their budgerigars (parakeets to you Colonials) take a dump on one.

"The Daily Mail was Britain's first daily newspaper aimed at the newly literate "lower-middle class market resulting from mass education, combining a low retail price with plenty of competitions, prizes and promotional gimmicks",[4] and the first British paper to sell a million copies a day.[5]" Wikipedia

It's a Newspaper that thrives on unattributed quotes and deliberately mangled stories. To read it is like eating cold vomit.


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And that one governor.....
by Josh K / November 2, 2012 / 7:10 AM UTC a rather chunky fellow too. Wink

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They flew in a helicopter,yes...but...
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 8:14 AM UTC

they could have taken a plane instead. Seems they didn't want him in the second chopper either, LOL.

Reporters did not accompany the president or governor in their helicopter, but they flew in a second chopper along the same route. Journalists reported that they saw varying conditions from the air.

It wasn't THIS helicopter he flew in as "Marine One".

In February 2009, President Barack Obama asked Secretary of Defense Robert Gates
about placing the project on hold or canceling it because of its high
cost; over $13 billion for the planned 28 helicopters. In June 2009, the
U.S. Navy terminated the contract and said remaining funds would be spent to upgrade to the existing Presidential fleet of VH-3D and VH-60N helicopters. The VH-71 helicopters were then sold to Canada to use as spare parts for its fleet of AgustaWestland CH-149 Cormorant search and rescue helicopter.

It was either this one.
carries 4+3

or this one.
crew of 4 and 14 passengers.

Here's a picture of it over Atlantic City.

More pictures from the Whitehouse site.

Looks like they were flying the Sikorsky version of Marine One. It has 3 passenger seats. I guess whoever took the pictures got the third seat instead of the Mayor. He couldn't even get a seat on the second helicopter either.

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"They could have taken a plane instead"
by Josh K / November 2, 2012 / 8:26 AM UTC

Really? And used what's left of the beach as a runway?

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do a fly over
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 9:06 AM UTC

no real need to land. Just gets in the way.

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(NT) Great idea! We know how well that worked for Bush, LOL
by Josh K / November 3, 2012 / 6:20 AM UTC
In reply to: do a fly over
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(NT) why do you eat cold vomit?
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 7:51 AM UTC
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(NT) Because that all you serve?
by JP Bill / November 2, 2012 / 8:13 AM UTC
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(NT) I don't serve him
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 8:15 AM UTC
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Do to........Serve=post links
by JP Bill / November 2, 2012 / 8:20 AM UTC
In reply to: I don't serve him

just as eat=read


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You've got it
by Willy / November 2, 2012 / 8:13 AM UTC

I'm still not sure of the real circumstances of that helicopter ride. But, space is limited and I'm sure Marine 1 isn't any different. As for what space is available, I'm sure some details are already known. On top of that, they're not going to risk the Prez on capacity issue alone or even come near it, so someone had to remain behind. You always ask the pilot or crew chief is you can come aboard on regular helo rides. -----Willy Happy

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two helicopters
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 8:16 AM UTC
In reply to: You've got it

And sometimes they use the Blackhawk which has room for 14 passengers.

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I think...
by J. Vega / November 2, 2012 / 1:27 PM UTC
In reply to: two helicopters

I think that Marine One is either a VH-3D which can transport 14 passengers or a VH-60N which can transport 11.

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Check wiki facts
by Willy / November 2, 2012 / 4:35 PM UTC
In reply to: I think...

Marine 1 maybe a certain type of helo, but it also does far more than carry passengers. It's mission justifies that it also be in immediate contact if need be and also those passengers are limited to the security detail of the Prez and family or guests, etc.. AND whatever is carried to provide that. -----Willy Happy

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Never been inside one...
by J. Vega / November 2, 2012 / 7:35 PM UTC
In reply to: Check wiki facts

I've never been inside one, but I'd think that if POTUS said they wanted persons A, B, and/or C along with them, POTUS would get what they wanted. I have seen it in fight several times, a flight pattern they used a lot went very near my farm. It's a nifty thing, and of quite a reasonable size.

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Git 'r done
by Willy / November 2, 2012 / 4:31 PM UTC
In reply to: two helicopters

That wasn't the case, plain and simple. It was quick in/out visit to assure state and local govt. the fed. govt. was on the job. To quibble on this isn't making anything happen here but stir whatever muck you want. These things happen and its already over and done with and it certainly wasn't done intently to make some political point or other. -----Willy Happy

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(NT) even you aren't that naive
by James Denison / November 2, 2012 / 5:02 PM UTC
In reply to: Git 'r done
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