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In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to...

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / February 1, 2007 9:02 AM PST

In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to do this to my PC:

- Upgrade to a faster CPU
- Upgrade to a better graphics card
- Upgrade to a larger hard drive
- Add more RAM (how much more?)
- Add a DVD-ROM or better
- Two or more of the above
- Dump it and get a whole new computer
- Nothing at all. I'm Vista ready!
- No Vista for me! (why not?)
- Others (what is it?)

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No Vista for me!
by irdac / February 1, 2007 6:37 PM PST

1 There are no perceived benefits.
2 The security benefits above my current level could only be got in the Ultimate Edition.
3 I use some old programs which work in XP but not in Vista.
4 As an honest user I don't want to be treated as a potential criminal by the DRM system.
5 Pretty visual effects are not worth

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Too much Microsoft for me!
by rfriendship / February 1, 2007 9:52 PM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

I have had a quick look at the current Poll situation and can see there are many folk who feel as I do about Microsoft having the Worlds' users by the short and curlys. True, its given modern computing to many many people, but I believe its time for a change, and Linux would be my choice also, for the reasons others here have stated.
I wouldn't be able to use some of my peripheral hardware with Vista, particularly my Canon SCSI document scanner which is now 11 years old, and which functions fine under XP but would not operate with Vista. Thats just one small reason.
Regards to all,
Bob F.

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Linux Anyone?
by blue51557 / February 1, 2007 11:32 PM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

DRM and the whole 'do it our way, or no way at all' mind set of MS reminds me of Apple in the 1980's. They too wanted total control of the computer world, and that caused the development of the PC as we know it. why do I think Linux is going to eventually eclipse MS.

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No Vista for me
by mark / February 2, 2007 3:00 AM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

I'm running Ubuntu. It does everything I want and don't need big brother looking over my shoulder.

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Re: No Vista for me!
by Trish Shields / February 2, 2007 5:43 AM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

Once upon a time my life was controlled by Microsoft. I have Win98, second edition. It was my line to the internet and thus to writing courses, other writers and writing lists. I was jacked around by McAfee and Norton in that each said they'd make my OS safe. Any time I had a real problem and ran to them for customer support I discovered just how adrift I really was. Same with Microsoft. I never could a straight answer from them on any given topic at any given time. Then of course it became prohibitive to keep throwing money for each call I made. Pretty soon I was spending a small fortune on virus removal.

I talked to a number of people about upgrading to XP. They wanted to sell me everything from a new computer to simply the basic XP OS, telling me my system would work just fine. It might be a little slow every now and again, they told me, but hey...One tech actually asked me why I'd bother to to upgrade from a system I knew? I told him that I wasn't happy with the problems that had begun to surface shortly after getting the first bevy of patches for 98 SE. He said that wouldn't change. I had a long think about that but felt I was locked into a PC.

Then I got married to a Mac Head. My eyes were opened! I saw the light! And while I still have my PC - I use it to play music and play solitaire on, I do NOT use it to send mail or surf the net. I am very pleased with Tiger and love everything about it. For me, it's simply a more superior system. For me, I'd rather have some bells and whistles, and a system that doesn't break down rather than an OS I have little confidence in because it needs to be rebooted on a constant basis, regardless of all the bells and whistles it comes with. For me, having confidence in my OS/machine leaves me more time to write, the sole reason for getting a computer in the first place. Upgrade to Vista? Why the hell for? Steve Jobs/Apple have never done me wrong and I'm confident they never will.

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I Agree
by In_case_of_error_get_gun / February 2, 2007 7:52 AM PST
In reply to: Re: No Vista for me!

I think Vista seems to be too much hype. I don't remeber anyone getting so excited over XP. Linux sounds like a good switch right now because of all the dangers of Windows.

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You are the (Mac) apple of my eye
by Larry Launstein Jr / February 5, 2007 4:14 AM PST
In reply to: Re: No Vista for me!

I switched to a Mac Mini last summer. Huge difference. XP runs just fine on my Mac.

You see, it is more than just the operating system. The Mac is just a better computer.

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No Vista for Me Should Everyone's Mantra!
by iainkayphd / February 2, 2007 12:08 PM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

In one sentence:

Microsoft Vista should have been at MOST Service Pack THREE for Windows XP (all versions).

Is the clear enough?

iain kay
iainkayphd@bellsouth.net

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No Vista for me!
by lebonmarchant / February 2, 2007 4:56 PM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

Let me echo and concur with all of irdac's points.

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Not worth it
by phoenix380 / February 2, 2007 11:28 PM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

I was not looking for Vista but was curious if my machine was worthy ,no was the answere as to upgrade my video card which on the whole not bad even recommended a video card for me ---so kind basic card cost $35 to sooper dooper one of $100 which is handy to know huh ,but have heard stories of the 'Vista 'not picking up some hardware you may have because might not have got Microsoft Certificate ,so tough luck on Microsoft I won't buy it and I am running on Windows XP home edition which is fine for my needs and probably haven't used to it full capacity any way ?
as you can see from my e-mail address from the UK
rickbarr@mynow.co.uk

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No Family Pricing/Pack
by Tony D'Amico / February 5, 2007 12:52 AM PST
In reply to: No Vista for me!

If I upgrade my computer, I have to do my wife's and daughter's computer and a laptop. It is not worth it at these prices. Give us same deal a Apple, 5 pack for $199. It is a done deal.

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Vista - why bother
by marpincan / February 5, 2007 7:13 AM PST
In reply to: No Family Pricing/Pack

Like a lot of people say, it should have been nothing more than a service pack for XP.

And as one poster put it:"If I upgrade my computer, I have to do my wife's and daughter's computer and a laptop. It is not worth it at these prices. Give us same deal a Apple, 5 pack for $199. It is a done deal."

Ok - that did it for me, next time I take a serious look at a MAC.

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no vista for me either
by rpen / February 1, 2007 6:59 PM PST

I don't want to spend extra dlrs for an OS! For what i do and considering i work as a s/w engineer, i can manage quite well with linux, thank you!

Besides, in spite of buying a core dueT2050 laptop, i will have to add more memory and the intel GMA 950 graphics card that came with it is only direct X 9 compliant.

And who wants an OS that will gobble cpu time to display elaborate graphics? Also, i am concerned about hidden restrictions on playing music files/videos/any other content in vista. I want to see how that stuff plays out.

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No Vista for me - switching to Linux
by JLP / February 1, 2007 7:16 PM PST

I'm also very disappointed with Windows Vista. I see nothing new in it, nothing innovative, and to think that it was in development for 5 years and so much money was wasted on it. Well there is Aero user interface but it is not working very well, quite slow on my computer. The combination of XGL and Beryl in Linux works much faster and looks much better. Than we have this bad technology DRM which is integrated into Vista and this is a big negative point for me. It takes away control of my computer and puts it into the hands of greedy people like RIAA and MPAA. And they even dare to set such a high price for this restriction of users and much too high system requirements for what it offers. No thanks. I've seen through the hype of corporate propaganda and there will be no Wista for me. Windows XP is the last Windows that will se my hard drive. I'm just switching to Linux, it is free, it doesn't take away my freedom and it already is more stable, more secure and has more advanced features. I also recommend everyone who is deciding about the purchase to check out this web site: http://badvista.org/

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would like to switch to linux
by shaz53 / February 1, 2007 8:23 PM PST

I know someone who was running vista and was told it is useless

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Nope, No Vista for Me
by sfvortex / February 1, 2007 7:27 PM PST

Rather than drop a wad on a bad rip-off of Mac OS X, I'm going to save up and get the real thing. My 20-year romance with the Microsoft OS started going bad 10 years ago, and I'm just now going from denial to acceptance.

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Better question, why upgrade rather than why not
by axekick / February 1, 2007 7:40 PM PST

I am from the old school of thinking... that you upgrade your machine to meet your new software needs and not upgrade your machine to meet the new operating system requirements. I am much happier with XP than any prior version of Windows and trying to push another OS on me at this point is like trying to sell me a new car one month after having purchased one. From what I have read on Vista I wouldn't install if it were free (unless I had a spare computer). In fact I got the beta version and never even installed it and believe it is set to expire. Purchasing a new operating system before patching the previous one we sold you is getting really old.

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Monopoly?
by snak3y / February 1, 2007 8:42 PM PST

I fully agree with axekick no use upgrading it ,but one thing is for sure,microsoft is going to stop making softwares and all for XP soon,thus making us upgrade....its a monoply u see,most of the games etc would stop being supported by XP ,just like the previous windows versions...afterall they do want Vista to sell Happy

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I concur, Why Upgrade??
by bhillnm / February 3, 2007 4:32 AM PST

Two of our computers are Vista ready but we have no plans on upgrading until forced to by software requirements. A flashier interface, "improved" security, reduced control over my system (each release has made user control more difficult) and more money to MS increase the odds of keeping the current OS.

The final upgrade vs new install was the deciding factor. Not having the option of a clean install when doing an upgrade unless I spend and additional $80 - $140 per computer ($400 min, not including hardware upgrades, if all of our personal computers were to receive Vista) Using a student discount, bulk purchase, a savings of $30 might be realized.

I vote No Vista

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No Vista for me
by tompbl / February 1, 2007 8:17 PM PST

Vista invalidates your old XP CD Key. This makes it impossible if I want to sell my old computer at a later date to put the original O/S back on and take my Vista with me.

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No Vista
by kahalstead / February 1, 2007 8:36 PM PST

No Vista in my future. Too expensive and no real perceived benefit over XP. Linux is getting very close to replacing M$ altogether in my boxes. If the price comes down to $19.95 then, maybe.

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Soon but not yet for Vista
by giorgoc / February 2, 2007 1:58 AM PST
In reply to: No Vista

I'm not ready to jump on the linux bandwagon and honestly OS X is just the same as ms to me. All os's have their upgrades and new versions. I'm comfortable with windows but I want to wait for patches and other software providers to become compatible. Hey Vista is just a upgrade. Not that big of a deal. I'm not so quick to be a Microsoft basher like so many others when other OS's do the same thing all the time. When the price comes down and fixes are in I'll upgrade.

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...start worrying about things I don't have to worry about..
by mszeliga / February 1, 2007 8:40 PM PST

My private laptop is an Apple PowerBook running OS X... and just as Apple says it just works. I'm currently waiting for Leopard.
My office laptop is an IBM ThinkPad A31p, it used to run Windows 2000 but 2? years ago I replaced it with SuSE Linux 9.3 (I am in a position where I am allowed to do so)... and nobody has noticed... and since we do not use Exchange the switch was seamless.
What can we learn from the above:
A.) you do not need to upgrade unless you want to.
B.) the only real reason for this upgrade is because Microsoft tells you to do so.
C.) you can live without Microsoft products without anybody noticing any difference, unless something you either want to use or have to use only exist for Windows.
btw.I am a System Administrator in a larger financial institution, everyone else here uses Windows.

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No Vista for me!
by paxboy22 / February 1, 2007 8:46 PM PST

On the advice of some friends who work for Micorsoft, wait until the bugs (and there apparently are many) get worked out before "upgrading" to Vista.

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In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to...
by katevz / February 1, 2007 8:47 PM PST

Not going to upgrade.

1. I want to wait until Vista is patched. I will wait for at least 6 months before I reevaluate it again.
2. Also why pay hundreds of dollars is my current OS works for me.
3. Lastly why upgrade just because its "prettier". Most experts agree its not going to make a computer faster, and might possibly make the computer slower.

My current computer is less then 6 months old so i can upgrade to vista, but i won't.

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No Vista for me
by Dreslinski59 / February 1, 2007 11:25 PM PST

I agree!! In order for me to "upgrade" to Vista, I would have to spend way too much $$ in PC upgrades that I'd just have to buy a new PC. I am very, very satisfied with XP. A while ago my husband and I upgraded from Windows 98 Pro with a new Gateway PC and unfortunatly, got ME. The salesperson was NOT very helpful! I was so disappointed that when XP was offered, I dumped that computer and bought the system that I currently am using. I have since upgraded by video card ( I have no idea what I have, I only know we can play the ubisoft games) and I have considered additional memory. Since I am satisfied with XP, I think I'll just keep it. Hopefully, I can keep my current set up until XP support is no longer available and all of the bugs have been worked out. As a matter of fact, I gave my old PC with Win 98, and my daughter has been using it for years and she just recently upgraded with a Vista ready machine, but is running XP!

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Linux or Mac but thru with Windows when my XP gives out
by shyguy1 / February 1, 2007 9:02 PM PST

I am so sick of MS trying to run my life and doing a good job of it as a matter of fact!!
I'm hoping XP will be around for a long time, but as one poster said, I can only guess Gates will pull support from XP. I am so sick of his holier than thou attitude, while giving the impression he is such a philanthropist and good person.
Hey, it's our money he's giving away!!
Right now I think Mac will take over, especially if they get a little less stubborn of having to be the priciest thing on the market.
On a related subject, I have the feeling "Big Brother" and MS and Google are all tied together to get a data base and inform. on everyone without our persmission.
Just try to sign up for GMail. You need an invite or give them your cell phone #. UH UH, not this guy. More spam, more control and inform. to who knows who and what for.
I almost yearn for the days when we didn't have computers. My children would be much safer, I'm convinced of it.
That is another thing that really gets my ire up!! They want all this personal inform. yet allow all the sex and porn sites on the internet without regulation. Computers, politics, Gates, Google! TGIF

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I have no intention of upgrading to Vista
by Romas27 / February 1, 2007 9:07 PM PST

The big question is what for? XP works just fine. If anything I would like to see a more basic XP, not an OS with more frills and doo-dads. I don't want my OS doing everything.
Eventually I'll probably end up switching to Linux (or even delving into the Unix world with Solaris).
Software issues you say? No way. There really is a limited assortment of software that anyone needs and the software I use the most also comes in a Linux version - open source and name brand.
Security you say? The best anti-virus software comes out of Europe, a good firewall beats anything any OS will have built into it.
So why should I blow the money on Vista when I can use that towards a better monitor, graphics car, more memory, a new CPU or even a non-computer related item.
The exponential curve of computer development has leveled off. The improvements in software and hardware are no longer so dynamic that being behind a few generations of improvements will not impact most people.

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I voted more ram
by matt 5112 / February 1, 2007 9:11 PM PST

This is because XP needs 1GB to run optimally so im assuming that Vista would need 2 GB. Also at www.gamespot.com (owned by CNET) they have a feature showing 2 GB provides the best results. and Vista slows down all of the games unleses you have 2 Gb of ram

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Simple Upgrade...Really!
by ShutEyeThinkin / February 1, 2007 9:14 PM PST

Do nothing! I have a Dell XPS (gen 1) that was purchased 2/2004...Vista upgraded without a hitch. Thank you, Dell, and thank you Microsoft. Come on, 90% of us will be running it in a year or so. Absolutely the smoothest upgrade ever.

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