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Im going in circles

by Drummer102 / July 5, 2008 6:36 AM PDT

I have been looking forever adn can not find what I want.

here is what I would like.
No required software (i got real pissed off with my Zen 16GB)
wma lossless play back
good sound quality
min 80GB
no HD (like that is going to happen)
When listing to music have a 25 hour audio battery life (without the screen being turned off when on hold (like the Zen))
5-8 hour video
A screen big enough to watch full lenth movies
Fits in my pocket (Archos 605 a bit big)
Has to have buttons (it can be touch as long as it has buttons becuse when its dark on the bus it is just to bright to look at)
Microphone with a gain control on the device
FM radio good to have but I really do not need it
Less than $250 (or about)
Louder sond output the my Zen 16GB
Looks do not matter

I will think of more things to add later dont worry but I need ideas about a player.

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Exact requirements? Impossible
by electronista / July 5, 2008 7:34 AM PDT
In reply to: Im going in circles

The largest flash-based player that I've seen is Creative's ZEN 32GB (and the iPod touch 32GB). It has an SDHC slot, but that limits you to 40GB total given that there's nothing more than 8GB cards on the market at present.

The Zune 80 fits most of your description, but there's no mic, it uses a hard drive for storage, and (most importantly) it requires proprietary software. That said, the Zune jukebox app is definitely going to be more pleasant than what Creative offers.

Is the real concern software as a whole, or Creative's software specifically?

WMA Lossless is the biggest problem, I'd think: very few players support it. In fact, you'd have an easier time finding a player that handles Apple Lossless (i.e. every recent iPod with a screen) or FLAC (Cowon and similar). The only other player lineup I can remember off-hand that supports WMA Lossless is the Toshiba Gigabeat series, and you won't find an 80GB model even if you import from Japan.

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by Drummer102 / July 5, 2008 10:06 AM PDT

The Zune says wma lossless (Its a windows product for petes sake). But I can do a batch process and change it all to another lossless for (any ideas?)

The biggest problem for the Zune is the software which I hear can be a problem. Also the no mic (I am a drummer and need to record lessons).

I kind of like the Archos but it is rather big less battery life than I want and I really do not care for the interface.

But I might keep the Zen for music and get an Archos for the rest.

Any new about new mp3 players comming out this year?

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Converting to WMA Lossless and the mic
by electronista / July 5, 2008 10:28 AM PDT
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That's another issue with the Zune - transcoding isn't really an option in the software. When you import, it's only to MP3 or regular WMA.

As for the mic, check for reviews that describe them. Just having a mic isn't enough -- you don't want to find out that it's too weak to capture past one or two feet or that the quality is garbage with less than a perfect environment. An external mic might be more effective, and a lot of players don't have those.

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by Dochjm / August 8, 2008 4:27 AM PDT

For any serious recording, you should probably get a portable audio recorder like the Zoom H2 or the Edirol R-09. The microphones on MP3 players are just not good for music recording. If you just have to use your MP3 player for recordings, get one with a line-in recording option.

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