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by biondanonima / January 28, 2010 3:38 AM PST

Hi there,



Just got a new dv4 with Windows 7 Home Premium and so far I like it a lot! It's a HUGE upgrade for me, and runs lightening fast in comparison to my old dv1000 (with only 512MB of RAM). Anyway, I'd like to get it up to optimal speed, and to do that I have a feeling I need to remove a few pre-installed programs. Here is the list of what's currently installed:



Acrobat.com Adobe Systems Incorporated 11/5/2009 1.61MB
Adobe AIR Adobe Systems Inc. 11/5/2009
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX Adobe Systems Incorporated 12/27/2009
Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin Adobe Systems Incorporated 1/25/2010
Adobe Reader 9.1 MUI Adobe Systems Incorporated 11/5/2009 650.3MB
Alps Touch Pad Driver ALPS ELECTRIC CO., LTD. 11/5/2009
AnswerWorks 5.0 English Runtime Vantage Software Technologies 1/27/2010
Atheros Driver Installation Program Atheros 12/27/2009
ATI Catalyst Install Manager 11/5/2009
avast! Free Antivirus Alwil Software 1/25/2010
ccc-utility64 11/5/2009
COMODO Internet Security COMODO 11/5/2009
Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Office system Microsoft Corporation 12/27/2009 62.7MB
CyberLink DVD Suite CyberLink Corp. 11/5/2009 37.2MB
DVD Menu Pack for HP MediaSmart Video Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 100.5MB
ENE CIR Receiver Driver ENE 11/5/2009
FileZilla Client 3.3.1 1/27/2010
HP 3D DriveGuard 11/5/2009
HP Advisor Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009 50.1MB
HP Games WildTangent 12/27/2009
HP MediaSmart DVD Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 96.8MB
HP MediaSmart Internet TV Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 40.6MB
HP MediaSmart Live TV Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 68.8MB
HP MediaSmart Music/Photo/Video Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 314.4MB
HP MediaSmart SmartMenu 11/5/2009
HP MediaSmart Software Notebook Demo Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 47.8MB
HP MediaSmart Webcam Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 120.6MB
HP MediaSmart/TouchSmart Netflix Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 9.61MB
HP Quick Launch Buttons Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009
HP QuickWeb DeviceVM, Inc. 12/27/2009 390.8MB
HP Setup Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009
HP Smart Web Printing Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009
HP Support Assistant Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 33.1MB
HP Update Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009 2.97MB
HP User Guides 0146 Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009 187.7MB
HP Wireless Assistant Hewlett-Packard 11/5/2009 3.87MB
Hulu Desktop Hulu LLC 1/25/2010
IDT Audio IDT 12/27/2009
Java(TM) 6 Update 15 (64-bit) 11/5/2009
Java(TM) 6 Update 17 Sun Microsystems, Inc. 11/5/2009 97.7MB
Java(TM) SE Development Kit 6 Update 15 (64-bit) 11/5/2009
JMicron Flash Media Controller Driver JMicron Technology Corp. 12/27/2009
LabelPrint CyberLink Corp. 11/5/2009 280.9MB
LightScribe System Software LightScribe 12/27/2009 24.0MB
MediaMonkey 3.2 Ventis Media Inc. 1/27/2010
Microsoft Application Error Reporting 11/5/2009
Microsoft Live Search Toolbar Microsoft Live Search Toolbar 12/27/2009
Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003 Microsoft Corporation 1/27/2010 167.7MB
Microsoft Silverlight Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 14.9MB
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition [ENU] Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 1.72MB
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 0.42MB
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64) 11/5/2009
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.4148 11/5/2009
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.17 Microsoft Corporation 12/27/2009 0.58MB
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.4148 Microsoft Corporation 12/27/2009 0.58MB
Microsoft Works Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 396.7MB
Movie Theme Pack for HP MediaSmart Video Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 332.2MB
Mozilla Firefox (3.6) Mozilla 1/25/2010
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB954430) Microsoft Corporation 1/26/2010 1.28MB
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB973688) Microsoft Corporation 1/26/2010 1.33MB
Power2Go CyberLink Corp. 11/5/2009 199.3MB
PowerDirector CyberLink Corp. 11/5/2009 547.0MB
Quicken 2009 Intuit 1/27/2010 79.6MB
Realtek 8136 8168 8169 Ethernet Driver Realtek 12/27/2009
Skype web features Skype Technologies S.A. 1/27/2010 4.32MB
Skype? 4.1 Skype Technologies S.A. 1/27/2010 31.1MB
Windows Live Essentials Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009
Windows Live Sign-in Assistant Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 1.94MB
Windows Live Sync Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 2.79MB
Windows Live Upload Tool Microsoft Corporation 11/5/2009 0.22MB

I installed a few things myself, but I'm most concerned about ALL the HP software - I know I don't need all of it, and I don't know what half of it does. Here is a screen shot of the processes that run regularly:



I'll be honest, I have no idea what most of that stuff is or if it's necessary. Can anyone advise? Thanks!

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What bloatware?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 28, 2010 7:30 AM PST

I see PDF readers, the usual MICROSOFT RUNTIMES and more. The only item we might call bloat is Hulu Desktop Hulu LLC 1/25/2010 but many want that.

Almost none of these when removed will speed up the machine.

But you may want to pick out your own security software.
Bob

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HP Bloat
by dokley / February 9, 2010 3:39 AM PST
In reply to: What bloatware?

Suggest you download Revo Uninstaller (free) and start to remove some of the HP programs. Revo uninstalls and then removes any registery issues associated with the program. Helps keep the registery clean after uninstalls. Do you need HP TV or Netflick programs??

There is also a program called decrapifier (free)for removing junk from new computers but I think Revo does a better job. Make sure you establish a restore point before removing any programs. That way you can go back if program was necessary.

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Not taking your suggestion.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 9, 2010 4:25 AM PST
In reply to: HP Bloat

Sorry but I didn't need any of those titles to uninstall what little there was.

Why would I need more software when I can get by with less?
Bob

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RE: R. Proffitt
by pixionus / January 11, 2012 12:37 AM PST

because those softwares do a more complete job than windows uninstallers or do it all faster with less time on your part respectively. Revo clears your registry which isnt usually done. It also removes left over empty folders and such. These things if left to build up on your computer (if you dont reformat often) will eventually slow it down. Decrapifier will remove programs you dont need without you having to research each individual one and remove them all one by one yourself (if I remember it correctly.)
These are very light programs made by good programmers not the menial coders hired by microsoft, hp, toshiba, etc. to do their smaller jobs (part of the reason bloat slows your computer so much without doing much of anything for you. Decrapifier is a use and delete thing and though you will only be able to get revo as a trial, it works better than most. These are the tools most of us programmers, IT's, "Geeks", and other tech "gurus" use, and why when we fix things they really get fixed. Most of the software repairs and such that I do boil down to just using the right small utility program for the job. Thats what dokley is suggesting. If you don't use it, that's fine I don't always either depending on the user level of the client (will they notice and utilize the extra benefits, will they be saved from having to reformat sooner because they don't do it often and I left less junk on their computer at the end of my work, or are they just checking emails and typing. If the last, it wont matter what you do).

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While I like Revo
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 11, 2012 1:00 AM PST
In reply to: RE: R. Proffitt

It's never been true since about XP that cleaning the registry helps. In fact it creates troubles.

I think you should make your choices and live with the results but after trying it both ways on the HP in question I can't find any change in performance one way or another.

There are some users that can't stand any extra file, folder or registry entry on the system. And for fun I may introduce them to the Windows Protected Storage to see how they respond to that!
Bob

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Registry is still an issue with uninstalling.
by pixionus / January 19, 2012 4:04 PM PST
In reply to: While I like Revo

Yeah, with the things you are dealing with, there wont be much slowdown or such from left over registry entries. I have seen some computers with problems that cleared up with a registry cleaning so I dont feel the same as you about it. (win 7) Usually happens when people use and uninstall cheap apps or programs that were badly programmed in the first place. Adobe and the like aren't in that category.

That said, I should note that I dont like any extra entries on my comp and I don't suffer from strange issues and almost any slow down for the year or so I usually go between reformats.

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You've been mislead.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 20, 2012 1:08 AM PST

There are snake oil sales folk aplenty telling you this. Don't pay them anything for the snake oil.
Bob

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I dont
by pixionus / January 24, 2012 5:32 PM PST
In reply to: You've been mislead.

Never paid a dime to do what I need. Reformatting is obvious. As for the registry, if you routinely uninstall and install tons of programs, you will see reg bloat. I didnt get this from some add, but from experience and experimentation. Again in this particular case, its not likely to be an issue, but I prevent it on my personal computer by simply completely removing anything I install (reg keys and all) and on clients computers by running a reg cleaner app. I could fix most of the odd bugs by going in manually but that would take to long. In xp I used to do that. Now days I just run the app. If it doesnt work, I just restore the comp and programs.

In short, Ive seen it with my own eyes and experienced it myself. I'm not talking about snake oil, though theres tons of that out there. This doesn't apply to all users, just a portion of them that for some reason or another, install and uninstall many programs from minor developers. Open source users and the like for example. Things like Revo prevent these issues.
That said, if you dont pay attention and check the changes you are going to make, you could make more trouble for yourself. Never had a problem with Revo though.

If your experiences have been different, then they have been different. I just tell it how I see it.

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Got a little off topic. Heres the bloat.
by pixionus / January 24, 2012 5:42 PM PST

The following are bloat unless you actually use them. If you have the onscreen HP buttons, they are the largest bloat. Disable them.

HP Games WildTangent 12/27/2009
HP MediaSmart DVD Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 96.8MB
HP MediaSmart Internet TV Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 40.6MB
HP MediaSmart Live TV Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 68.8MB
HP MediaSmart Music/Photo/Video Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 314.4MB
HP MediaSmart SmartMenu 11/5/2009
HP MediaSmart Software Notebook Demo Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 47.8MB
HP Support Assistant Hewlett-Packard 12/27/2009 33.1MB

Infact, you can remove all the Media Smart stuff. You will loose some of the popups when you change things like system volume, but the volume will still change etc. you just wont have the popup telling you as much.

You dont need most of the updaters running at start up so you should change that and periodically update if you want a faster machine, especially on start up.

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RE: Got a little off topic. Heres the bloat.
by sindpifer1 / September 25, 2012 2:11 AM PDT

I agree with pixionus in regards to the preinstalled games and media software especially if they are are by the computer's manufacturer. I have a Dell and I have uninstalled all preloaded media, support, registation, or demo programs because I do not use them or need them and have replaced the media software with software I like better. I carefully go over my add/remove programs list periodically as well to insure nothing has been installed on my computer without my knowledge (although I have a very secure authorization setup as well as virus and internet protection, sometimes unwanted programs will be installed with other software or updates). I also suggest a thorough look through the startup programs and anything that you do not NEED to run from startup to shutdown (ie: my virus software is one of my few non hardware related software programs that I allowto boot with my computer). Anything that says "update" is safe to remove from startup (I keep my Windows auto update in my startup but that is a personal choice). It will dramatically drag your computer down if you have too many programs running in the background and using up RAM. (For any one who was wondering: Removing a program or utility from startup does not mean you are getting rid of it completely, it is just giving you a chance to open it only when you need it. A reg cleaner is a good tool, but I agree that it is not needed unless it is a computer that has had various programs installed and removed, not a new computer. If in doubt if, a registry cleaner like the ones suggested above will definately do the trick (especially as your harddrive gets more use).Thanks pixionus, in my opinion, your answer was accurate!!

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