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how to use neighbor's network

by k_chak / June 20, 2006 5:29 AM PDT

My next door neighbor says I can use his wireless network but he doesn't know the name of it or his network key. If his network key was randomly generated should I look under his modem for it? Is there anywhere on his computer I should look to determine if it was randomly generated and, if so, what it is? Thanks,

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There is no such thing as random
by Gakada / June 21, 2006 8:29 PM PDT

password generated for wireless accesspoint...

and it is no where in the modem... it is created by the user...

so, it is No password or your neighbour is challenging you to find his password, if you want to use it...

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Is network key a synonym for password?
by k_chak / June 22, 2006 3:16 AM PDT

Thank you for your reply Gakada. Just verifying that the network key is the same as a password. I've read other places in this forum and on some sites I found on Google about randomly generated network keys. My neighbor keeps offering me to use his network but when I question him he doesn't know what his network key is. Can I tell him it's a password and hopefully jog his memory? Is this something he has to enter regularly or was it a one-time thing in the set-up that he will need to recall? Thank you very much,

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most likely you need
by Gakada / June 22, 2006 3:26 AM PDT

The SSID (the network name) and the password if available...

so ask your neighbor about it.. if it is open wireless network, then you don't need the password, when it say secured network, then you need the password...

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Not really a password ...
by barbiemr / June 24, 2006 1:37 AM PDT

Hi pamlo,

Key network key is not really a password, it is the encryption key for the WEP encryption (or some more recent more advanced forms of encryption) that your neighbour has in place. He would have to enter it only once when he set up his wireless connection so it is quite possible that he has forgotten it. If it is completely lost he would probably have to log onto his router and reconfigure the key and then give it to you.
Also remember that Wi-Fi has fairly limited range. It is therefore possible that your connection quality will be rather low unless you and your neighbour live really close together. It is possible that even if you are able to connect to his network that you wont always be able to get an IP assigned (via DHCP most probably) when you turn on your computer.

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by k_chak / June 26, 2006 6:14 AM PDT

Thank you kvj. He just bought a new laptop that he needs to configure so I think the timing is good! pamlo

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hey i got a question i hope u can answer
by lacrosseattack09 / August 9, 2007 1:29 AM PDT

im getting ps3 in a couple of days and i was wondering if i could use my neighbors wireless internet connection to go online with ps3. i have a laptop right now and i have been using there wireless connection with this laptop for a while now and ive never had to type in a wep key or password to use there internet with this lap top.i believe there internet is netgear. so i was wondering if i can use this laptop on there internet connection without passwords or a wep key will i be able to do the same with ps3? will i need to buy anything special for it to work with ps3 like a router or somethin?...please write back, this will really help me if u can answer this. thanks

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Two questions...
by John.Wilkinson / August 9, 2007 1:55 AM PDT

1.) Do you have their permission to use their internet connection?
2.) Does their internet service provider permit its customers to share the internet connection with others?

If either one of those is a "No" then no, you may not use it for your PS3 or your laptop.


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Re: Neighbor's Router
by basesloaded190 / June 22, 2006 10:10 AM PDT


If he guneinly hasn't ever touched his wireless router (except for pluging it in and hooking it up), the router won't have a network key. Ask him what manufactuor (sorry about the miss spellings) is for the router. The default name of any router is often the name of the manufactuor (ex. my Linksys router had the default name of Linksys).

Secondly, it's very possible that since he dosen't know his router's password, that he never even set up a password, and there for never even created a network key. So my guess is that the router dosen't even need a network key so that you can access it.

I hope that this was helpful.

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Network key is there
by k_chak / June 23, 2006 8:06 AM PDT
In reply to: Re: Neighbor's Router

Thanks for your reply Matthew. I tried to connect to the network with the strongest signal, assuming it was my neighbors. There was alreay a hidden network key present. [Note for other forum members: I learned from going through the wizard on my laptop to set up a simulated wireless network that network keys can be automatically assigned and that this is the method Microsoft recommends.] When I try to connect I get a "Limited or no connectivity" message followed by "You might not be able to access the Internet or some network resources. This problem occurred because the network did not assign a network address to the computer. Then it gives me a Repair option. I'm wondering if at set up my neighbor could have used a USB flash drive to save his network settings. I'm wondering if he did do that perhaps I can just transfer his network settings to my laptop and that will include the network key. Clearly I don't know much about wireless networks but it seems if my neighbor wants to share his with me he should be able to do so. Understandably there are security measures in place but he should be able to include me in his network if he wants to. He's quite the ludite so I have to figure it out myself. Thanks for any advice. If it's too hard to figure out I can ask him to call his provider for tech support. Thanks all! pamlo

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Re: Router (#2)
by basesloaded190 / June 23, 2006 2:40 PM PDT
In reply to: Network key is there

If he indeed use a USB Key (also called a "Jump drive") to set up his network, adding your laptop to the network should be pretty easy, just plug the memory key into the USB port, and Windows will ask you if you would like to install the network settings located on the jump drive. The hard part of course is getting the jump drive.

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network key is there
by jcozzi / June 25, 2006 2:42 AM PDT
In reply to: Network key is there

If your neighborg is allowing you to do this, what you need to do is go to his computer, right click on wireless network, and under preferred networks will show you the network he is under. With this information now you need his WAP password, if he has a wireless router, ususally is a 10 digit number on the bottom of his router or in some cases is the 10 digit phone number. Try this and see if it works.
When setting your computer try to see if it can search for it automatically if not try the manual version.

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Thanks Alazala
by k_chak / June 26, 2006 6:18 AM PDT
In reply to: network key is there

Thanks so much! I'll let you know how I make out. We know it's possible to do just not the particulars of how to do it.

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How to connect to your neighbor's network
by tonyron227 / June 28, 2006 10:51 PM PDT

In order to accomplish this, you must access your neighbor's router website by typing in the IP address of his router into his browser. From there you will be able to go into his wireless security settings and see the name of the network and the WEP key or the WPA key [whichever was used at set-up]. More than likely it was a WEP key and it will be 10 digits. If it is a WPA key it will be 26 digits. Good luck!

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Re - Using neighbors wireless network
by meanspb / June 28, 2006 11:22 PM PDT

What your neighbor is doing is basicly "improper"
#1 what he is doing is becoming an ISP, in a way and providing "improper" access to the internet.And in some cases if you got caught doing this without permission it would be called piracy of internet service.
#2 He should really secure his network,because there are cases in court now for "improper" use of services where they were using someone else's network to "improperly" download music, and in one case "Kiddie porn"
So have the neighbor secure his network, and get your own ISP. ........... Play it safe!

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Consolidated Answer?
by tpullano / June 29, 2006 1:54 AM PDT

I'll take a shot at it...

The first thing is to ask you neighbor if at anytime he has configured the router by login in via the instrcutions that came with it. There is usually an IP address provided to connect to the router via your browser, it will then ask for an ID and PW. It is sometimes defaulted to ADMIN & PASSWORD respectively, but the instructions should tell you what each are (unless he already went in and changed the router password!).

If he did go in and configure (doesn't sound like he did), then he could've changed the SSID (or the name of the network router) and set up WEP or WPA encryption (this is where the network keys comes in). If he did not change anything, then the SSID should be defaulted to the manufacturer name, like NETGEAR or LINKSYS. If WEP or WPA was set up, then within the router config program, it should show those network keys to access his network...they can be different lengths depending on WEP or WPA, and if 64 or 128-bit encryption was used (they are automatically generated by typing in a phrase). These you will use to log into his network the first time. After that, it should not be needed (I don't think...none of mine needed again after first attempt), but keep on hand in case the router is reconfigured or reset (though he may have to generate new keys).

If as suggested in another post, you right-click the small wireless network icon in your system tray, and select "view wireless networks", you should see his, and maybe other networks available. Look for the SSID he named it with, or the manufacturer name. If WEP or WPA is used, then the text below should say it is a secure network, otherwise it will say it is unsecured. If his network says unsecured you can go ahead and try to connect. If secured, you will need the network key to get access once connected.

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network/internet connection
by aefaria / June 29, 2006 2:12 AM PDT

if your neighbor was talking about sharing his wireless internet connection. All you should need is windows xp/2000 and a wireless network nic card to work off of it. Most people dont set up with a password on the router. After that all you need to do is set up your computer (if its not already done) to obtain a DHCP (IP address) automatically.

If you are still having problems beyond this you can contact me. I parttime for a cable/internet/telephony company. And internet is my department Happy so i know what i am talking about, i do this almost daily with people with routers.

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How can i get the pasword of my neighboors network.
by danikxas / July 27, 2007 1:51 PM PDT

my name is danik i had one internet connection it was really good,
but then the neighbors blocked the network address and now i can't use internet. So what do i have to do to get it back.

so please help me.

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Since the neighbor blocked your access
by PudgyOne / July 27, 2007 1:58 PM PDT

I guess they no longer want you to connect to their router.

You'll have to go out and purchase your own Internet and/or Router.


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network/internet connection
by aefaria / June 29, 2006 2:15 AM PDT

if your neighbor was talking about sharing his wireless internet connection. All you should need is windows xp/2000 and a wireless network nic card to work off of it. Most people dont set up with a password on the router. After that all you need to do is set up your computer (if its not already done) to obtain a DHCP (IP address) automatically.

If you are still having problems beyond this you can contact me. I parttime for a cable/internet/telephony company. And internet is my department Happy so i know what i am talking about, i do this almost daily with people with routers.

As far as some others posting to this question - i have to admit- i have not read all, however, some are a bunch of talk that no one would understand. i will repeat, MOST PEOPLE DO NOT SET UP ROUTERS, and if they do, they do it very basic, unless this neighbor is a computer pro of some sort, which i doubt.

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Sharing neighbor's connection
by wait3264 / June 30, 2006 9:21 PM PDT

I was haveing the same problem in my home network. I couldn't get my daughter's laptop to access the network. I knew the SSID and password but couldn't connect. I downloaded new drivers for her wireless card and after that could only connect if I did a repair of the connection. I have to do it each time I want to sign onto the internet. She has no problems connecting to other wireless networks. I have another laptop and my TIVO access the network just fine. It may be a hardware issue. If your neighbor has a removable wireless card ask if you can use it in your laptop. If you don't have a problem connecting using his then it is your wireless card. You may have to invest in one that is the same make as his router. Keeping to the same manufacturer always makes networking easier. For example, My daughter needs to use Netgear products to access her school network as they have had configuration issues with Linksys.

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Connected to neighbor's wireless network!
by k_chak / July 28, 2006 12:47 PM PDT

Thanks all for your knowledge and support. I learned a lot from you. I was able to connect to my neighbor's 2WIRE network and the signal is "good!" It was really simple. I took my laptop next door. Once I tried to connect I just entered as the network key the number on the bottom of his router that was in parenthesis under his serial number. I went to the 2WIRE website for these instructions. Great Forum - hope I can help others out.

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Using neighbors wireless connection
by kwkid / August 11, 2006 2:51 PM PDT

Quote "Great Forum - hope I can help others out." End Quote

Ahhh yes, great idea to teach others to be a thief. Makes one very proud I'm sure.

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by HIL32 / March 3, 2008 11:43 PM PST


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Start a new discussion please.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 4, 2008 2:31 AM PST

This one is over a year old.

I was going to not lock this but you also posted in all capital letters which makes for hard to read posts and is considered shouting.

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