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I'm going with no. It can't be secured today.
Given that there are forensic devices that dump an iPhone's contents without having to know any password or such then it's clear you can't secure data in the iPhone.
On top of that any idea that you could have an app encrypt the data is also busted as you look for the file system on the iPhone as well as how apps make their way onto the iPhone.
-> The only way to secure your data from such tools is to not put the data onto the iPhone or the Android phone.
Shocking, isn't it?
How about a software named Folder Lock for iPhone? I searched for iPhone security and I found this software. I am hesitant in buying it.
We know the issues and can read the current discussions but at no time has Apple exposed their file system so with that nugget, tell us why you could ever trust the security of these phones?
I do not trust their security that is why I am asking for some software bro.
What date do you want to secure and against what?
For example, to secure against data loss you backup your iPhone to your PC. To secure against access from strangers you put a passcode on your iPhone.
Yes I want to make mi iPhone data secure from breach as well as from the access of strangers.
Then my answer is no app can help. Why?
Because look at Apple not exposing what file system is in use or access to it. And those forensic machines that can suck the data out of a locked phone.
Certainly the person with the usual forensic tool is a stranger and since they get access to the what Apple won't reveal then it's game over.
And let's not get comfy with Android as you have CIQ to research on that platform.
PS. In case you have or not seen this.
I'm a little more knowledgeable about the Cellbrite as I go to trade shows and they gave an excellent demonstration of unlocking and more.
Good to know that
So why don'y you help me?
I shared that even with an app, these forensic tools reach around and dump the phone's contents. I also offered some link so you can catch up on the issue.
We also know about other security or privacy issues on the Android and iPhones so if you want to discuss that, we can.
However, given the current designs and OSes, you won't be able to secure your data on said phones.
-> I see your last reply and I think you're coming up to speed.
You made a valid point. So, is the best way to secure my data in iPhone is not to save data in there?
Just don't save any critical data there, yes (n/t)
That is disappointing, keeping data in iPhone is quite handy
Then be sure you don't lose it ...
and don't give it to anybody else.
But the risk always alive
I will not give my iPhone anyone, but, there is always a threat of losing my phone or getting it theft.
I understand your concern.....
.....but I think you might try addressing your concerns directly with Apple. I don't think you will be able to download an application that will solve your dilemma.
I have done that.
At a few places. The problem with iOS as it stands is that the file system is not exposed. You can't be sure what's in there today.
Any app that encypted data must decrypt said data so without seeing the full file system you can't be sure that there is not an unencrypted version in the phone's storage ready for forensic tools to get at.
Android is not much better unless you go get some other rom that has been cleaned of CIQ.
Bird and Profitt
I agree with you both, I assume that this insecurity has cut off the potential of IOS. Am I right?
Understand, 99.9999 % of folks do not store such 'mission critical' information in their phones, nor do they intend to. It's a non-issue, basically. iOS is very popular for other, obvious reasons. Very user friendly and easy to get started with.
I have to go with no.
iOS is fine for most folk. But to put your company information on any such device is your choice. Now that you know the deep issues.
In parting and if you want to reply, do so to the top post.
Did Eric Schmidt (google) take any data on a phone with him on his recent trip to China?
(I guess the old do bears do something in the woods question now has an alternative form!)