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by Eskiegirl302 / November 19, 2007 9:38 AM PST

If we didn't have the government running everything in the united states we wouldn't have this problem. The FCC controls all the signals and the airwaves. Howcome? Because people let them do it. Your constitution protects your life, your liberties, and your private property. Scale down government, get your country back and no one would have to worry about the high prices due to the fact that there would be more competition and the market would set the price. NOT the FCC. WE in the united states are the true government. That's the way it works. You didn't have to do anything to get this freedom, you inherited it from your forefathers. Get rid of big government, you get better communication and at lower prices too. The ten planks of the communist manifesto are already operating in the united states. Better keep your eyes open.

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Have what problem?
by Coryphaeus / November 19, 2007 11:28 AM PST

If the FCC didn't regulate the frequency dispersion nothing would work. No radio, TV, nothing. Everyone would try to use the same frequencies. Could you do a better job?

I don't understand your rant.

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Dumbed down americans
by Eskiegirl302 / November 19, 2007 11:53 AM PST
In reply to: Have what problem?

Exactly the point airhead. Do you think for one minute if they didn't want to also CUT the transmissions off like right this minute that they couldn't do that ? What if we were to be attacked or Bush did something really stupid like going to canada to have a secret meeting with the prime minister of canada, and the president of mexico and they decided to just black it out from the media? Erasing our borders behind our backs? That is exactly what he did too. And what they (the FCC) did upon the order of good ole GWB. It was broadcast all over the world and everyone but the American people knew it. That is what you call soviet injustice. Oh and btw, do you honestly think that people cannot or do not know how transmission works? It is not govt. who comprises the radio stations and the frequencies. It is good old american people. US. The FCC just hold the authority to tell people what they can or cannot broadcast. This gives them the power to show you just what they want you to see and hear. Not the untruth exactly, just the part they "decide" you allowed to know. Commie? you betcha

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Wound up quite tight, girl ?
by NM_Bill / November 19, 2007 12:06 PM PST
In reply to: Dumbed down americans

Ever hear of discression being the better part of valor. Principle is important, but we should pick our fights carefully. Ever notice that lawyers only do it for money. (not fun or mindless venting)

Slow down & establish some focus. Consider effectiveness. Older folks recognized many things not liked long ago. A protest, whether left or right, is only a Faux (Opinion) & News Network. Talking heads of government or talk radio are just noise.

Have a good life.

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Like your freedom?
by Eskiegirl302 / November 19, 2007 11:15 PM PST

Look not to government to make your life better. Look to yourselves to take advantage of the opportunities this great country provides. That is the message that needs to be sent to the American people and especially to the Congress of the United States and those members who think government should be doing everything for us.

The federal government did not create the states. The Federal government was created by the states to represent them in a common forum. That is why this country was named "The United States of America." But somehow, the federal government has been able to seize control over the states by imposing unconstitutional laws along with income and other taxes, which are used to offer additional funding to states that comply with their mandates. The states in turn have become addicted to federal government subsidies and now Congress wants us, the people, also to become dependent on them. This simply must stop.

Our economy is on the verge of bankruptcy because of excessive federal spending and if liberals have their way, they will take as much of our money as possible through high taxes and use it for government services to ensnare us in government dependency before the collapse. If we allow this to happen, we will become victims of the government and left out in the cold when government can no longer take care of us.

That day may be coming soon. All it will take is one good terrorist attack on a major city or two, or for China to call in our debt. The last attack on our World Trade Center started a chain of events rolling that caused our national debt to skyrocket. We simply cannot afford another attack and expect our economy to survive with the current level of federal spending. We need a reserve but have none.

Government cannot continue with this excessive spending without eventually collapsing the economy or becoming a communist state by taking control of business and industry to maintain their radical spending practices. Foreigners now own Forty-four percent of our national debt, and about half of that is owned by the governments of China and Japan. This gives them a strong influence in our foreign policy. When you owe someone a lot of money, you don't want to anger them. Why do you suppose we are still importing poison and toxic food and toys from China?

Sure, the economic figures are looking good. Low unemployment, high productivity, high home ownership figures, and a strong stock market, but it?s all being done on borrowed money. The current national debt at the time of this writing stands at $9.116 trillion and as the debt goes up the value of the dollar goes down.

Because of this, the dollar has been devaluated to just 60% of what it was worth on the international market only a few years ago before 9/11. Foreign traders are now choosing to trade in Euros instead of dollars as they lose confidence in our ability to make good on our debts.

According to a news conference aired on CSPAN on Nov. 18, Sen. Harry Reid would have you believe this debt is due to the $800 billion spent to fight the war in Iraq and Afghanistan although Reid didn't mention Afghanistan; only Iraq. He said this money would better be spent on healthcare, housing for the poor, and paying utility bills for people who can't afford them, instead of fighting "a civil war in Iraq." If Harry is so concerned about government spending then why would he want to take that same money being spent to fight a war and spend it elsewhere instead of cutting it from the budget?

Obviously, it's not the spending that Harry objects to. It's the war. This is just the latest misguided attempt by liberals to mislead the public and try to convince the American people that defeat and surrender to Islamofascism would be good for the country.

It's hard to believe that a person in a top leadership position of this country could stand up in front of the press and the television cameras complaining about defense spending, deny the great progress being made in Iraq, and again demand a change of course, while promoting Socialist spending programs as Reid did this week.

Fighting wars is one of the expenditures that the Constitution authorizes Congress to employ. It does not authorize Congress to spend our tax dollars on healthcare, low cost housing, earmarks to campaign supporters, or private utility bills as Harry suggests

I have often made reference to the Enumeration of Powers in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution, which defines the powers of congress. Let's take a closer look at this section. It is prefaced with the following statement:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

This says that Congress is granted the power to tax and spend, but all taxes and spending must apply to everyone equally. It then goes on to define specifically what that power includes:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

That speaks for itself and our government has taken full advantage of it.

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

In other words, Congress is empowered to act as a regulating agent in interstate commerce and foreign trade.

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Immigration and bankruptcy policies should be uniform throughout the states.

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

This means establishing the U.S. Mint and a uniform standard of weights and measures.

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

That speaks for itself.

To establish post offices and post roads;

This paves the way for the Highway Dept. and the U.S. Post Office. It provides for roads needed for the movement and delivery of U.S. mail.

(Keep reading. There is a reason for all this.)

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

This provides for the U.S. patent office and establishes copyright laws to encourage individual creativity for profit.

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

This is where Henry Waxman gets his power to hold never-ending congressional investigations into the Bush Administration?s activities.

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

This empowers Congress to prosecute and punish international criminals involved in crimes against the United States outside the national borders.

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

This provision allows Congress, in addition to declaring war, to authorize private persons or companies to act as agents outside the U.S. borders in defense or retaliations for attacks or crimes against America. Also to establish rules for dealing with those captured in such actions.

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

The authorization to create and fund the Department of Defense and explains why the defense appropriations bill must be renewed every two years.

To provide and maintain a navy;

If we have an army, we?re going to need a navy to get them to the war and defend our interests on the high seas. This authorizes Congress to fund the navy.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

Here, Congress is authorized to establish operating rules for government agencies including the army, navy, and marines but it doesn?t say anything about the Air Force, so go for it boys before they change the Constitution.

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

This clause authorizes Congress to call up armed forces to suppress riots and drive back invasions of our sovereign soil from places such as Mexico. We can expect Congress to continue ignoring that one.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Establishes uniform rules, equipment and organization of the state?s National Guards, and authority over them when in the service of the United States.

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;

This basically establishes Washington D.C. and all other federal reserves under the authority and regulation of the U.S. Congress.

And To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

Notice above it states Congress is authorized to make all laws necessary to carry out the forgoing powers (listed here) and to make laws necessary for carrying out the other provisions of this Constitution. This is the limit of congressional powers. The 10th Amendment states that all other powers not assigned to Congress or the president are reserved to the states and to the people.

It is clear that the Constitution does authorize Congress to fund military operations on foreign soil and in fact, the primary duty of all elected officials is to defend the Constitution and the United States of America from all enemies foreign and domestic, according to their oath of office.

By now, it should also be clear that Congress and the federal government have absolutely no constitutional authorization to regulate or fund healthcare, low cost housing, private utility bills, farm aid, foreign aid, welfare, social services, education, private enterprise within state lines, civil rights beyond the right to vote (15th Amendment), regulation of firearms, or any of the thousands of other freedoms they have stolen from us in their abuse of power.

The answer to Harry Reid is - cut out the unconstitutional spending so that there is enough money to fund the things that the Constitution authorizes you to fund.

America was a free country until the 20th century when career politicians began making Congress a full time job. We now have 535 career politicians with nothing better to do than to spend their time finding ways to spend our money and making unnecessary laws for the rest of us to live by. They keep the wheels of their machine grinding away simply to justify their own existence, ambitions, and power but do little for the country that doesn?t have to be undone later on down the road with more laws and more spending.

This is not the America that our founders intended. I often think about how it was in the Wild West, when men were really free. Local law was the prime law and people survived by being self reliant and not dependent on any government. That was when America was really America. We have allowed our free America to become a nation of regulations under the elected elite and a nanny state that takes what we earn and gives it to those who don?t for the sake of their own reelection votes.

And now liberals want to take it to the next level with the election of Hillary Clinton, whose policies clearly lean toward Socialism, where most everything would be regulated and controlled by federal government to assure that everyone is ?equal? and life is ?fair? for everyone. Everyone, that is, except those who would exercise personal responsibility in their own lives.

Is that what Americans really want? It?s what we will get if we don?t take back our government and return it to what it was before its servants lost sight of our Constitution and declared themselves absolute rulers of the people. In 1903, Congressmen and Senators served a total of 73 days a year in Congress. Today it's more like 225 days a year but only about 10% of those days produce anything useful.

It?s time now for all of them to find new jobs, return the control of America to the people, and restore freedom and liberty to America.

See How it works? or not yet?

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FYI there is CNET forum called speakeasy!!!
by jcrobso / November 20, 2007 12:46 AM PST
In reply to: Like your freedom?

That forum would be a good place for this type of posting.
As the Chief Engineer of major FM radio station in Chicago I have to work under FCC rules. Yes the FCC can be a pain. John

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Too much!
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / November 20, 2007 1:52 AM PST
In reply to: Like your freedom?

I would pick up on much of this, especially the excerpt that states; "high home ownership figures, and a strong stock market, but it?s all being done on borrowed money. The current national debt at the time of this writing stands at $9.116 trillion and as the debt goes up the value of the dollar goes down".

Home ownership in the US has nothing to do with the US Government and taxes, and in fact I argue that the US Governments very lack of intervention has caused this mortgage debt.

It is this very "freedom" that is now fueling the current run against, and loss of confidence in, banks and other financial institutions in the US and elsewhere in the world. Look up "Northern Rock" here in the UK. Mortgage lenders, keen to keep their businesses growing for their shareholders, began to lend to the sub-prime market some years ago. The sub-prime market being those whose financial circumstances meant they could not obtain mortgages under normal conditions, but lenders have lent them mortgages at higher interest rates and longer terms. To spread their risks, the lenders cut these mortgage debts up into small parcels and sold them to banks and other financial institutes around the world.

This has allowed house ownership in the US to rocket in the last few years, but the practice is unregulated by the US authorities and now many of these sub-primers are defaulting on their repayments. Naturally so because they could not afford an ordinary mortgage in the first place, let alone the higher repayments demanded by these mortgage contracts. So, homes are being repossessed, but the debts are not being repaid, or recovered.

Now, banks and financial institutions in the US and around the world are having difficulty managing their own bad debts because they, stupidly, 'brought in' to the merry go round. Also look up the chairman of CityBank who resigned a week ago.

As a result of this unregulated practice, depositors and savers in banks around the world now face the prospect of losing their savings. Me included.

Yep, that's the kind of freedom I like!

But that's not why I am making this post. You have not been reading, or have forgotten, the Forum Policies, link here;

In particular this;

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It seems you have cited a whole article, or a large excerpt from one, and that breaches forum policy.

Why should I allow your post to remain?

Even more, what is the point of this whole discussion? What has it got to do with Home Audio and Video?

It seems to me way off topic. Tell me why this whole discussion should stay.


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by MarkFlax Forum moderator / November 19, 2007 6:18 PM PST
In reply to: Dumbed down americans

This discussion is being watched.

Any more direct or indirect attacks and I close it down.


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(NT) you feel better???
by ahtoi / November 19, 2007 11:50 AM PST
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by Eskiegirl302 / November 19, 2007 1:28 PM PST
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digital broadcasting and regulations?
by just_jwin / November 21, 2007 12:25 PM PST
In reply to: CABLE

I agrees with one of the earlier posting that nothing will work w/o any regulations. We have different committees of engineers and scientists as well as law makers to help set standards for the United States. If we were to leave these tasks to the idiot that ramble on and on about the U.S government without a single thought on a global basis then we're definitely in trouble. Alot of the things he mention seem to contradict itself. What a freakin MORON. Instead of sitting on your lazy ***, go find yourself a job and don't complain about making less than $50 for a 10 hours day work and maybe you would be able to help our economy. Keep in mind, i am not implying that our government is perfect. There are flaws and it needs to be address at the right time and place when there are enough people with common interests (interest groups).

Now, if this discussion have anything to do with the transmission of digital tv signal by 2009 then that is only a matter of technological changes. Correct me if i wrong, as far as i know, we're barely catching to the technologies of some European countries. Eventhough it might not be cost effective in the immediate future for alot of people but it will help the United States to move in a forwardly direction.

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