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Got rid of that piece of crap that was WIN8 Pro

by DChrisL / December 11, 2012 6:25 AM PST
Wen t get my $ back from the bank. broke up WIN8 Pro and Win8 repair disk. Win * does not have messenger and I had to delete everything 2 times in my computer. In deleted email address for Add that to the sixteen they blocked, three on WIN8. I will never use Windows 8!
It is garbage. Broke into pieces right in from of the bank's manager and tore up the registration number also. I am really pissed at the outside firm that sold me this: arvato digital services, llc, 29011 Commerce Course Drive, Valencia, CA 91355 USA.
If anyone has the notion to update, make absolutely certain your provider has recovery disks. I also dropped
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Re: Arvato
by Kees_B Forum moderator / December 11, 2012 9:52 PM PST

Microsoft uses Arvato to handle the payment and delivery of Windows 8, just like they did when introducing earlier versions of Windows. There's really no reason to blame Arvato, because they did what were supposed to do: deliver what you ordered and what you paid for.

If you're unhappy with Windows 8, you can only blame Mixrosoft for making it and yourself for buying it without proper research. But certainly not Arvato.


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So, the real cuprit is
by DChrisL / December 12, 2012 7:04 AM PST
In reply to: Re: Arvato
But to call it a Pro was Arvato's doing, since it was only a preview. I will writing about that, especially since I could not install facebook messenger and since 3 emails were destroyed in 3 days, Plus 13 more that are no longer usable in a year+. Darrell

Note: This post was edited by a forum moderator to remove email addresses to prevent abuse by spammers. on 12/13/2012 at 8:13 AM PT
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Re: preview
by Kees_B Forum moderator / December 12, 2012 4:06 PM PST

The previews were free, so you didn't pay for them. And with previews, it's not adviced to install them on your main machine, because they can contain all sorts of errors and bugs. So if it was a preview, you don't have any issue, neither with your money nor with any claim of damage.

With Windows 8 coming in three variants (Windows 8, Windows 8 Pro, Windows 8 Ultimate), it's imaginable there are previews for all three. And those names come from Microsoft also (just like the names for 5 variants of Windows 7). Again, no reason at all to blame Arvato for anything.

I've asked the forum administrator to remove the email addresses from your post.


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Kees, thank you on the removal of all my posts except
by DChrisL / December 12, 2012 5:35 PM PST
In reply to: Re: preview
This one. Now have the addresses of both, Arvato and Microsoft, in FL, There is a lemon law, also since I am 67 years old I get lawyers for free. Darrell
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Re: Microsoft
by Kees_B Forum moderator / December 12, 2012 6:06 PM PST

The head office of Microsoft is located in Redmond. That isn't in Florida, but on the totally opposite site of the USA (North west, near Canada).

For Arvato you gave a CA address in your first post, so it's a little bit strange you now mention FL. It's an international company, with the head office in Germany, as shown by

Why do you think a lemon law would apply? On a preview, they aren't applicable by definition. That's meant to have errors. And for the final version there are millions of happy Windows 8 users, and all copies are the same, so hardly anything can be wrong with yours.
I think no lawyer will make a case out of this unhappy incident.


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by firsteditions / January 3, 2013 6:38 AM PST
In reply to: Re: Arvato

Before we let Arvato off the hook, I bought Win 8 Update from them in early December, and paid them for both the download AND a Win 8 DVD. Win 8's okay, and they emailed me that they'd shipped the DVD, but that I couldn't reach them by replying to the email. Now I haven't received the DVD and don't have any way to reach them to inquire about it. What do I do?

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