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can an iphone 5 bought from verizon work with voice and data

by raghul1993 / October 17, 2012 10:19 PM PDT

can an iphone 5 bought from verizon work with voice and data simultaneously on a 3G GSM network internationally ?

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No.
by Kees_B Forum moderator / October 17, 2012 10:39 PM PDT

Verizon phones aren't GSM. They won't work at all.

Kees

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Not exactly true....
by birdmantd Forum moderator / October 17, 2012 11:15 PM PDT
In reply to: No.

The Verizon iPhones (4S and 5) have GSM radios but are only officially allowed to roam internationally. Without hacking, they will not work domestically with either T-mobile or At&t. If properly hacked, they will operate on At&t's 3G network but not simultaneous voice/data.

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I am confused
by Pepe7 / October 18, 2012 3:54 AM PDT
In reply to: Not exactly true....

This is what the OP asked:

"can an iphone 5 bought from verizon work with voice and data simultaneously on a 3G GSM network internationally ?"

Shouldn't the answer be yes, provided the following specs are present on the A1429 version of the iPhone 5, and it's the unlocked model as currently touted in the marketplace:
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CDMA model A1429*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)

If the user hopped on O2's UMTS network (for example) in Europe, wouldn't they also be using voice on the same network, not only data? And I presume, if you were a verizon customer, that handset would have to be provisioned correctly? Otherwise, since it *is* technically sold unlocked by the big V, would it still work to roam per se in this fashion on a UMTS network (using voice & data)?

cheers,
Pedro

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so u mean to say that it will work ?
by raghul1993 / October 18, 2012 9:10 PM PDT
In reply to: I am confused

so u mean to say that it will work ?

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That's what they say indeed.
by Kees_B Forum moderator / October 18, 2012 9:51 PM PDT

So it seems my "no" was wrong.

Still, I'd go and ask the verizon shop where you bought it. My guess is that you will need to buy either a Verizon-offered sim-card or a local one to be able to use GSM. And, of course, pre-paid data is rather expensive.
If it has WiFi looking for a public WiFi occasionally might be cheaper.

Kees

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Pedro is correct. BTW Interesting fact about ATT iPhones
by grimgraphix / October 20, 2012 7:42 AM PDT

Interesting to know (and ATT does not advertise this) but any iPhone that has had it's 2 year contract fulfilled can be taken to ATT where they will happily unlock it for you. I don't know if you can buy an iPhone 5 full price and have them do it, but it would be interesting to find out. I don't know but I will ask my ATT rep about this next time I see them.

Anyway, then you can use it anywhere you go just as long as the cell network uses the frequencies the antenna in the iPhone model you have uses.

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You don't always need to wait 2 yrs
by Pepe7 / October 20, 2012 12:54 PM PDT

ATT is actually (in some cases) willing to unlock iPhones still under contract. <said while pointing at the wife's unlocked 4S on the table>. Although the 'you need to complete the term commitment' language is still visible online at their site, it's something they are overlooking in some cases, mostly having to do with your account standing/history. See here for the language that is overlooked:

https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB414532&cv=820&_requestid=650438#fbid=7sEeZHpxJ-d

I find Business customer care to be a lot more responsive to such requests than the normal CS channels. In the past I have had unlock code requests taken care of in a few hours or overnight via email.
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Since the OP asked about the Verizon version, it's a moot point anyway. GSM side is already unlocked Wink
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