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Camera for Live Streaming

by web1tech / December 13, 2012 2:35 AM PST

Currenlty need to replace my old JVC SD camcorder.
Looking at the Canon Vixia HV40
Reason: HD, Firewire IEEE394 output for streaming, price

I notice that the new cameras do not have Firewire anymore, even the newer computers (Macs) don't have Firewire. I understand USB3 suppose to take its place in the future.

In the mean time how would one be able to capture live video on the new camcorders, would you use the USB?

Is there a camcorder ($600-$700) that can stream video that anyone would recommend.

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I missed it.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / December 13, 2012 2:44 AM PST
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The Canon HV40 does have a IEEE1394 compliant DV port
by boya84 / December 13, 2012 4:16 AM PST
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(NT) Cool. Couldn't find it on the specs page.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / December 13, 2012 5:15 AM PST
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Reference Link
by web1tech / December 13, 2012 5:22 AM PST
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Define "professional camera"
by boya84 / December 13, 2012 9:00 AM PST
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My definition includes a
lens diameter of 70mm or larger;
a 3CCD or 3CMO imaging chip 1/3" or larger.
When you get these all the other stuff (manual zoom and separate manual focus ring on the lens barrel, manual audio control on the outside of the camcorder, etc)...

The HV40 is a great DV/HDV camcorder. I don't think you'll find any flash memory camcorders with a firewire connection until you get to the Panasonic AG-HVX200. As for miniDV tape based camcorders, the prosumer Sony HDR-FX7 or HDR-FX1000, and pro entries (Sony HVR-A1, HVR-HD1000, HVR-Z5), Canon XHA1 and a few others can all do what you want - and if you really want flash memory, just add an external recording device (Sony and FireStore).

I prefer low compression HDV (or DVCProHD or HDCAM) and an affordable long-term video archive method that flash memory does not provide.

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hmmmm.....
by boya84 / December 13, 2012 4:07 AM PST

The current MacBook Pro and iMacs do not have a firewire port but use Thunderbolt. Apple makes an adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapter?afid=p219%7CGOUS&cid=AOS-US-KWG-PLA

The current MacMini has both a Firewire port and a couple of Thunderbolt ports
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html

The current MacPro tower has 4 firewire ports
http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html

The MacBook Air never had a firewire port, but now has a Thunderbolt connector so it can now have Firewire.
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html

Apple's been clear that they are moving to Thunderbolt... Lots of other manufacturers, too..
http://www.apple.com/search/?q=thunderbolt&section=mac&geo=us
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)
so this is not a surprise.

Between the current Macs with a firewire port and the readily available Thunderbolt adapter, making a blanket statement of "even the newer computers (Macs) don't have Firewire" is not exactly accurate.

Since "newer" (flash memory) cameras and camcorders don't/can't send the high definition video stream over USB and don't have firewire, then the other audio/video outbound ports need investigation. Pretty much all of them have analog AV-out... Most have some sort of HDMI or RGB out. These would connect to an intermediate box, then to the Mac - it depends on the Mac...

Grass Valley/Canopus ADVC55 or ADVC110 for analog/composite camcorder video out to firewire to the Mac.
Elgato for analog/composite camcorder video out to USB to the Mac (expect reduced video quality).
Black Magic Designs makes various HDMI and RGB boxes... there are a few others, but these are the ones I've seen.

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Thanks for the info
by web1tech / December 13, 2012 5:23 AM PST
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Thanks for the feedback.
Lots of stuff to digest on.

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