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Belgian State Sanctioned Murder?

by James Denison / January 15, 2013 3:14 AM PST

Murder, or state assisted suicide?

This is appalling.

"Identical twins have been killed by Belgian doctors in a unique case under the country's euthanasia laws.
The 45-year-old brothers from the Antwerp region were born deaf and
sought euthanasia after finding out that they would soon go blind. They
told doctors that they were unable to bear the thought of not being able
to see each other again.
The twins, who have not been named but have been pictured on Belgian
television, had spent their entire lives together, sharing a flat and
working as cobblers.
Belgium's Het Laatste Nieuws newspaper reported on the
weekend that doctors at Brussels University Hospital in Jette
"euthanized" the two men by lethal injection on Dec. 14.

Belgium's ruling
Socialists tabled a legal amendment that will allow the euthanasia of
children and Alzheimer's sufferers. The controversial change will allow
minors and people suffering from dementia to seek permission to die."

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(NT) state assisted suicide.
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 3:34 AM PST
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And when they have Alzheimer's?
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 3:50 AM PST

And will children be allowed to "opt out" of "assisted suicide"? No, this is murder.

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Are "children" responsible for their own actions?
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 4:01 AM PST

Like can they be charged with a crime?

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no, that's not what I meant
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 4:59 AM PST

but then you probably knew that already.

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Is this what you meant?
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 5:05 AM PST

IF you're THE parents/guardian of the child AND of sound mind....AND can get a Medical panel willing to perform/assist.

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what of the orphans?
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 5:12 AM PST

I don't know how many are in Belgium, but recently read there's near a million of them in Russia.

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(NT) BTW...it's state "assisted" NOT state "FORCED"
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 4:03 AM PST
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Yes
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 5:12 AM PST

Death

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Permission to die?
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2013 4:57 AM PST

Is self performed suicide illegal or does it require a permit?

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should I bring flowers?
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 5:17 AM PST
In reply to: Come up to Quebec

Or make a donation?

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Just show up and start talking
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 5:35 AM PST

They'll take care of you.

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(NT) LOL. You're very bad, JP. Rob
by Ziks511 / January 15, 2013 6:14 AM PST
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If I did
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 6:18 AM PST

I would be carrying. I suspect they wouldn't. So, no problem.

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(NT) So now you're advocating murder?
by Roger NC / January 15, 2013 7:03 AM PST
In reply to: If I did
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(NT) self defense is murder?
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 7:17 AM PST
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(NT) Assisted suicide is murder?
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 6:32 PM PST
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Yes
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 9:08 PM PST
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So now "suicide" is "murder".....................
by JP Bill / January 16, 2013 2:22 AM PST
In reply to: Yes

Keep talking.

Kevorkian was arrested and tried for his direct role in a case of voluntary euthanasia.


Kevorkian was tried four times for assisting suicides between May 1994 to June 1997. With the assistance of Fieger, Kevorkian was acquitted three times. The fourth trial ended in a mistrial

AND he wasn't found Guilty. 3TIMES!

Kevorkian himself administered Thomas Youk a lethal injection. On March 26, 1999, Kevorkian was charged with second-degree murder and the delivery of a controlled substance (administering the lethal injection to Thomas Youk).[9] Because Kevorkian's license to practice medicine had been revoked eight years previously, he was not legally allowed to possess the controlled substance.

THEN he was found Guilty.

Kevorkian convicted of second degree murder for physician assisted suicide.

NO!!!! He was found Guilty of Second Degree Murder for Second Degree Murder.

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He had no authority to do it at any time
by James Denison / January 16, 2013 2:34 AM PST

Some people get away with murder, but if they keep it up, eventually they are convicted. That's the case with Kevorkian. Very simple to understand.

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Very simple to understand.
by JP Bill / January 16, 2013 2:48 AM PST

It should be....

You're having a problem though

He couldn't commit physician assisted suicide any more than I could.

He wasn't a physician.

What do you think of DNR? Do Not Resuscitate....Would you call that Physician assisted suicide?

Do you think people should be able to put that in a will or advise through Power of Attorney to DNR?

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No Problem? ..........Then you'd be in the country illegally
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 11:14 AM PST
In reply to: If I did

The border guard asks "Are you in possession of any firearms?" Perjury is NOT the correct answer. AND you would be placed in a jail with unsanitary conditions like the Jails in Greece, and there would be NO sympathy...Just as you feel for those poor people that escaped from the Greek Jail.

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Sounds like a place without tolerance
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2013 6:55 AM PST

for diverse opinions.

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brain freeze
by James Denison / January 15, 2013 7:17 AM PST

Happens to a lot of Canadians I understand. Wink

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RE: Sounds like a place without tolerance
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 11:28 AM PST

Or concealed carry laws.

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So you're safe as long as
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2013 7:10 PM PST

you watch what you say? How wonderful is that!

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No one has been killed or jailed yet
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 7:36 PM PST

for speaking out in favour of assisted suicide.

Sounds like free speech to me.

IF you want to talk about denying the Holocaust...then you might have a problem (jail time) COME ON UP!!!!


a place without tolerance?....A man without tolerance goes to a province without tolerance and he's packing heat? Devil

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I'll correct myself.
by JP Bill / January 15, 2013 7:42 PM PST

no jail time, and you can spread "false news", all the more reason to "come on up".

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You said that if James came up to Quebec
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2013 10:43 PM PST
In reply to: I'll correct myself.

and just started talking, that "They'll" take care of him. The comment from Rob is that you were bad. So what do we make of your post? Who is "they" and how will James be taken care of? Do you mean he'll be treated to a nice meal or maybe get something else in his mouth...like a big flesh and bone human fist?...or are you just leaving that up to people's imaginations? I'd hate to think coming north could have bad consequences just for speaking other than what was popular.

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RE: The comment from Rob is that you were bad.
by JP Bill / January 16, 2013 3:14 AM PST

I know...I'm terrible aren't I?

A double entendre is a figure of speech in which a spoken phrase is devised to be understood in either of two ways. Typically one of the interpretations is rather obvious whereas the other is more subtle. The more subtle of the interpretations may have a humorous, ironic, or risque purpose. It may also convey a message that would be socially awkward, or even offensive, to state directly

James mentions "brain freeze" I guess that's when your brain can't think and you don't speak.

That's better than a "brain fart" like I would be carrying. I suspect they wouldn't. So, no problem.

brain fart
The term is typically employed in the United States[5] to indicate a regrettable and poorly thought out choice of action. According to Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Denis Gauthier a brain fart occurs when one "momentarily loses his sense of logic...and does something 'dumb'."

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