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Apple iPhone to be Cingular-exclusive at launch

by awinn233 / September 25, 2006 2:33 PM PDT
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I'm a little wary
by Stan0807 / September 25, 2006 11:01 PM PDT

because Apple has said blatantly the phone market is not one they want to get into.

It would be great and I would be one of the first people in line to buy one, but I'm just a little cautious because this kind of rumor has been around for approximately forever.

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Good - I'm glad it isn't Sprint
by cardsbb9 / September 25, 2006 11:33 PM PDT

I am waiting for the Zune.... waiting for a device that is phone, MP3-player, and podcatcher/player. I'm hopin' the Zune will be the item I want.

I'm holding off upgrading iTunes (still at ver. 6), I won't buy another iPod. If Zune turns out to be what I hope it will be I'll sell the Nano I have on eBay.

Since it sounds like Apple is arranging a strategic aliance with Cingular then that leaves me with the hope that when the Zune (with phone) comes out that it will be CDMA compatable... which means either Verizon or Sprint.

I'm currently with Sprint, but have been thinking of switching to Verizon.

Whatever happens, I want a Zune-phone-player-podcatcher which is CDMA compatable.

(Hold the camera, please)

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by MacHugger / September 26, 2006 2:54 PM PDT

Really anxious to see how long before WiFi broadcast trojan horses bring Zune players screeching to a halt. Should be fun. Your music player will only be down for a month until Microsoft releases a patch.


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(NT) (NT) definition of FUD and flamebait in one post!
by SantiagoCrespo / September 27, 2006 1:29 AM PDT
In reply to: Awesome
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Just sayin' - where there's a door, there's a way
by MacHugger / September 27, 2006 3:24 AM PDT

And hey, can we have a pro Apple moderator too?


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There are lots of devices with Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi
by SantiagoCrespo / September 27, 2006 5:20 AM PDT

And very few (if any) vulnerabilities have arised in the wild, but the Microsoft bias in here is absolutely relentless.
BTW, an Apple-knowledgeable moderator might be coming this way. But if you want an Apple-biased moderator, that won't happen.

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by MacHugger / September 27, 2006 5:41 AM PDT

Very few of those wireless devices have been built to encourage users to pracitcally spam their friends with files from their device. What has it been to date? Mostly PDA type devices where one might share a file created by the user sending it (such as an address card) to another user.

Now with the Zune, files will be downloaded (will it ALWAYS be some kind of Microsoft certified "safe" file??) and they will throw them around from one user to another.

Your knee jerk reaction that my comment about it is flamebait and FUD without considering there might actually be something to it shows YOUR bias. I see it all the time from you, much as you like to think you're an eve-keeled moderator.


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I moderate solely based on the CNET TOS.
by SantiagoCrespo / September 27, 2006 8:50 AM PDT
In reply to: Merit

which can be found here.
I do not let my technology choices hamper my ability to lock or delete threads when necessary (which fortunately isn't too often).
And let me get something very straight, Iam not biased towards Microsoft, Iam very annoyed at fanboyishms of any kind (oh, because it's micro$loth, it's gonna suck) I despise MS, Apple and Linux trolls alike. Each system serves best a particular type of user, and that's it, we all have our reasons for our choice of Operating System, MP3 player or computer form-factor, and we all have to learn to respect that.

Back on topic,
If Windows mobile and Palm OS devices, which enable you to share any kind of file you want through Wi-Fi, bluetooth or IRda, despite being almost general-purpose computers do not have a history of dangerous holes, why should the Zune, a single-purpose device suffer from one of them?
I firmly believe there is no perfect media player. The iPod is the most popular, but it doesn't fit my particular needs, the Sansas are very cool, but to some people they feel a bit flimsy, nevermind Sony. I would not, and will not, buy a Zune, because it is HDD based, so it cannot be used during heavy physical activities.

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2 topics
by MacHugger / September 27, 2006 9:08 AM PDT

I will never claim that I do not have a bias. Anybody that does so is being a hypocrite in the purest form. Nearly every decision we make down to the minute includes some internal bias for making that decision. Therefore, I cannot accept that you have none. I've seen far too many examples of postings from everybody on this board (including you) and I know in which camps people fall.

Our goal is to try to keep an open mind. I fail all the time. It's quite easy to throw around words like troll and FUD and fanboy (I do it and you certainly do it too) which demeans the comment of the other. Just don't expect that behavior to go unchallenged. Your reply earlier today was clearly a reaction based upon your bias, whether you are capable of admitting you have one or not.

Now on to the second topic. The way in which the Zune will be pushing files around is what may very well make it vulnerable to viral attacks. We've seen mobile phone based viruses but they've had limited impact. Microsoft somehow seems to invite viral attacks and I'm saying that I expect to see some show up in this product, especially because of the way Microsoft expects people to use it: download files and throw them to everyone you know.

We'll see. Somebody might have to eat a tasty plate of crow when the first Zune virus makes the rounds Wink


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And what I was expressing was my personal tastes
by cardsbb9 / September 27, 2006 1:27 PM PDT

The main point I was making was that since Apple is "backing" GSM, that I hope that Microsoft will then back CDMA.

What I got for expressing my personal tastes was (as you stated) flaimbait as well as FUD.

But to address the FUD - it is my hope that Microsoft will have (finally) learned the root-cause of all their security holes and taken steps to make sure they don't build systems that way anymore. I hope that the reason for the delay in Vista is to allow them to rework that aspect. Didn't we hear that there was some test of Vista that showed it was still being built with security holes, and that Microsoft was taking steps to rectify their whole approach?

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by gsmiller88 / September 26, 2006 7:31 PM PDT

What about ppl living outside the US?

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(NT) (NT) Cingular's the best anyways...
by mdstout58 / September 27, 2006 11:24 AM PDT
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