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After browsing I delete cookies etc but they stay?

by stormtrooper / January 30, 2013 5:39 AM PST

I have to use a Virus scan every time I close a browsing session to get rid of the cookies. Has the browser got no control of its own mechanisms or cache's.
I use IE9 and Norton, now either one or the other is pulling a fast one on me. I have been told that it comes down to preferences, but inevitably it comes down to either taking part in an internet experience or not.

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Cookies are almost a necessity
by wpgwpg / January 30, 2013 6:01 AM PST

As soon as you get rid of your cookies, you'll get more when you get on the Internet with just about any sites you go to. You can set IE9 not to allow cookies, but then you won't be able to get much done. I use Norton Security Center which periodically goes through my cookies and removes them. That's about the best you can do. The vast majority of cookies are harmless anyway, so I don't worry about them. Just be sure you keep your antivirus software up to date (Norton and most other antivirus programs do this automatically).

Good luck.

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Did you try in private browsing?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 30, 2013 6:04 AM PST

And there are reasons for cookies to stay but as cookies must occur to make sites work, you have to decide on what you want.

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why? my browsing should always be private and my browsing.
by stormtrooper / January 30, 2013 5:21 PM PST

As a long time computer user and specialist I don't see the logic in having to choose the type of browsing I have to do to get rid of Cookies. I can well understand your casual aproach to the internet, but where every move you make is being tracked by advertisers like preying mantises I don't see why when I go into the tools at the end of every session and select delete cookies and it doesn't. This is not some simple error in coding but a systematic battle of wills. These people like to give you the false impression thay are giving you the best software for the job but People like Google are the worst offenders because they use every move you make as a formula to track not only your buying traits but your overall preferential traits. Then comes the Security experts like Symantec that say they are out to give you maximum protection but they don't and by the time they figure out there is a virus on your system you are the one left to pick up the pieces and ask for help on forums like this. It is bad enough having to watch a TV programme interrupted by adverts but now all the social sites like to have them and when you are in my line they flock like bats to a cave to feast on your friends. I get tired sometimes when I come up against a site which I am continually prompted to accept cookies. The worst one so far has to be Adobe. You go to their site and your can be prompted to download at least 30 cookies. No wonder people complain their computer is getting overweight. Just imagine 500 sites with an average of 30 cookies over a year and nothing to clear the stubborn ones. This what the internet has come to.
I am not knocking your point of view, I just see internet browsing as private anyway, whilst people may share a similar point of view as you or I, everyone differs. This is how the software giants divide us. All I say is if a piece of browsing software doesn't do what it says then there is something wrong in the management of the software application.

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As you write.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 31, 2013 2:09 AM PST

You are an expert, specialist and more.

I offered a way to use a few browsers and reach your goal. I'm unsure why that would elicit such a long response but here's my thought about the way things are today.

-> The OS, browsers and products are made by folk that have some other agenda than what you have. That is, folk that develop such want to find ways to create revenue even if it is by collection of information that you want to opt out of.

To counter this, you would use some other browser, a browser feature such as noted or even an OS on a read only media such as CD so nothing is saved at all.

Again, nothing is really wrong here. That is, your goal is not Microsoft/Google/Apple's goal.

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why? my browsing should always be private..
by stormtrooper / January 31, 2013 5:54 AM PST
In reply to: As you write.

My goal is as clear as daylight if you can see through the cookie jar, I would like a browser that does what it says on the tin, so to speak. No qualms and not any BS about freedom of trade as such. It is not that I don't accept cookies, its the plain fact that even here in the UK under an EU directive people like Microsoft, Goole etc. are braking EU law. The software that is provided should be able to remove what it has accepted on principal. The software has the facility to remove Browsing history and clear caches as well as various other possible enteries into the registry. But what I am making a point out of is that the browser shoud be able to clear up its own mess by the use of its integral tools. The Formulae is built into IE9 but is only partially executed on demand. I cannot answer for Google and Firefox, but from the Google Plus browser I have taken to pieces concentrates on the advertisers enrolled list and certification during execution. When you purchase something do you complain if something is wrong with it, or do you let it slide. Like SSL certifcation not working properly in your browser is like running an engine without lubricant. Or giving your bank details to a stranger because these type of things are happening right now. When you are logged onto what is supposed to be a secure location do you check the certification of the site or do you just assume it is safe because it is a bank or a checkout at a shop you are buying from online. All these detail are easily checked but do we just assume they work in your favour. I am just posing these questions because I am not getting anything back from the software engineers because they have to legally protect themselves.

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That last post is one monolithic paragraph.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 31, 2013 6:03 AM PST

I could not find the question.

As this is a discussion forum, I'm more than open to discuss almost any topic. But if you want to bring me into a legal discussion I have a few forms you must sign. Cool

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by Dafydd Forum moderator / January 31, 2013 6:33 AM PST

The poster could try Do NotTrack it's free use Google.

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And that's ignored by Yahoo?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 31, 2013 9:42 AM PST
In reply to: Cookies.
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Cleaning cookies easily and for free!!!
by Kafshiel / January 31, 2013 11:12 PM PST

Just use CCleaner FREE... (You can download it here on CNET or google it) Once you have closed your IE session just use CCleaner to clean all cookies, or it has an option that allows you to keep those really necessary cookies if you want, i use this everyday! It's an excellent piece of software has many cleaning options and you'll use it everyday! Ask anybody about CCleaner and if they don't know it well then they should... Wink

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by stormtrooper / February 1, 2013 6:42 AM PST

Thank you for your advice but perhaps you have missed the point I am making. I know it is all very well having these free utilities which are designed to do what your browser should do without having to resort to them. I am sorry I know all your intentions are good and are helpful to the layman, but what I am saying is that they should be designed into the browser software correctly. A lot of people would be safer afterwards. It is not that I begrudge using cookies but I do believe that if you don't keep your Identity cache clear of most cookies your pc slows down in its search criteria it slows down and crawls to execute your programs and display data efficiently.
Thank you for your time and responses and that goes for everyone whom has responded to my initial question about cookies.

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Simple answer...nothing is perfect...
by michhala / February 3, 2013 12:48 PM PST
In reply to: CCleaner

ie The lights at the Super Bowl.......

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How I handle cookies with IE9....
by michhala / February 3, 2013 11:21 AM PST

I do not keep cookies........ I eliminate them after each browsing session. Even if you have set IE9 to automatically delete cookies at closing, it does not get them all. Because I like to view the stubborn cookies that have remained, I use the free CCleaner to get rid of what is left. CCleaner "Analyzes" and shows the list of cookies remaining and cleans them out toally in seconds when you "Run" the software. If CCleaner shows any tracking cookies when I close the browser, I get rid of them....if not, I have the option to wait until my next session.

My IE9 browser is very, very fast, and I have never seen any disadvatages to eliminating cookies.


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