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Advice on a New TV for Gaming

by Wildblood82 / September 15, 2013 8:43 PM PDT

I'm currently on an ancient 720p 7 year old LCD Samsung, so yeah, definitely time to upgrade!! Since I rarely upgrade, I'm willing to spend cash, maybe 2000 euro tops (though the cheaper the better). Anyway, I was really hoping to get some input from you guys. Here are some facts:

-> I am heavily leaning towards LCD (my room is bright in the afternoon and gets really hot in the summer. I'm not willing to mess with my windows/lighting too much)
-> I sit about 2.5 metres (8 feet) from my TV, head on, no angled viewing and I can mount the TV at any height.
-> Input lag is a consideration, but what I REALLY hate is motion blur, more than anything in the world. My old TV feels great, but I played on a 1 year old newly released 3D Samsung 9 series that cost 2000-2500 euro - beautiful picture, so sharp and bright, but the motion blur disorientated me and made me lose track of things. Same with a 2 year old LG. For some reason, the motion blur of my ancient LCD Sammy is unbeatable. Yeah, I know plasma rules here, but like I said...heat and brightness make it unviable. Low motion blur or GOOD software to compensate (ie, minimal reverse ghosting), is my HIGHEST priority.
-> Waiting a year for OLED isn't an option - I want to wait 3-5 years to see how they resolve blue degredation and image retention first.
-> Good contrast would be nice, but not essential
-> I don't care about how saturated the image is or how accurately colours are represented.
-> I don't care about sound quality. If it's bad, I'll buy a dedicated sound system in the future.

I play a wide variety of games, from simple nintendo games to action, so I can't really specialise for one or the other. That said, I'll sacrifice some bright colours from fun games, to fix the motion blurring. It makes me uncomfortable having to readjust my perception after running through an environment in Last of Us or Final Fantasy XIII. I want to appreciate the environment, and keep track of an enemy when strafing in a shooter. I'll even sacrifice some input lag to achieve that. I have no idea why my ancient LCD does this way better! Going out to shops to see TVs doesn't give me a good sense of motion blur, because they show their own videos or movies...that's not as fast or unpredictable as a game...so I'd love some input here and I'll go to shops to check the TV after.

Thanks for any feedback guys!

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That newer Samsung likely had the wrong settings
by Pepe7 / September 16, 2013 12:45 AM PDT

IME anyway, anything relatively new in that price range needs to be put in game mode (or similar) to help reduce lag.
If not, something was definitely wrong. Give us more about the make/model, and how it was connected so we can figure out what was going on.

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Model and Settings
by Wildblood82 / September 16, 2013 6:27 PM PDT

Thank you for your reply! The model is Samsung UN46C9000 and was connected by some no-name brand HDMI cable (1 metre). It wasn't put into game mode, that's true, but I heard that game mode is only for reducing input lag and doesn't affect motion blur. Perhaps I heard incorrectly. In any case, it's not my TV, just one I tested on Happy

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Here it is.
by Oldartq / September 16, 2013 2:24 PM PDT
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IPS
by Wildblood82 / September 16, 2013 6:29 PM PDT
In reply to: Here it is.

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! I heard IPS wasn't very good with the motion blur stuff - amazing viewing angles, but bad refresh rates and high input lag. Did I hear wrong?

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AFAIK
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 17, 2013 3:42 AM PDT
In reply to: IPS

IPS is one thing.
Input lag is caused by something else.

That's why I always look for "game mode" as well as naming the input "PC".
Bob

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by Wildblood82 / September 17, 2013 1:04 AM PDT

I don't think I'll need 2k for another 5 years or so. Sure, movies will come out next year or the year after at the latest, but TV shows, apart from a select few, won't come out for a while. Also 2k games won't be til next gen. Even now, TV shows I watch are only available at 720p. 2k is nice and all, but I have no use for it. Even if it were cheap, I'd rather pay for an epic 1080p screen than an ok 2k one.

What about:
Samsung UE40F8000
or
Sony KDL-55HX853 (or the Sony KDL-46HX853)

I like the look of the Samsung, but I'm thinking 40" is too small. Right now I have a Samsung LE40R51BX just so you get an idea of how ancient it is. Still, not a single dead pixel after 7-8 years - I'm damn impressed with it!

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