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506 homicides Chicago 2012

by TONI H / January 3, 2013 6:32 AM PST
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-01/news/chi-cops-city-ends-2012-with-506-homicides-a-16-percent-increase-over-2011-20130101_1_homicide-surge-homicide-toll-chicago-homicide-victims

So much for gun control......today is the third day of 2013 and they already had 9 killings.

Rahm Emanuel is scared of actually being perceived as racist because nearly all blacks with a small percentage of them being Hispanic. He has absolutely no control over the armed armies of gangs and hasn't done anything to even make it look like he's trying.
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Here's their plan but is it really a plan?
by Steven Haninger / January 3, 2013 7:51 AM PST
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(NT) equates guns with tobacco?
by Roger NC / January 3, 2013 7:57 AM PST
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In other words "We give up!"
by Steven Haninger / January 3, 2013 8:55 AM PST

I'm sure there are many that, if it's a gang member with the bullet wound, would rather let the guy die on the sidewalk.

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(NT) operant conditioning on people Clockwork Orange Style?
by Roger NC / January 3, 2013 9:46 AM PST
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Come to think of it, maybe the government should subsidize
by Steven Haninger / January 3, 2013 5:45 PM PST

the gun industry the way it does tobacco. Look at the number of jobs that tobacco creates in the healthcare industry. Doesn't it, in a small way, help with growing population problems. Well...so does the gun industry. Devil

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Chris Rock did a bit on that, as did George Carlin
by Josh K / January 3, 2013 11:30 PM PST

Carlin said we should simply outlaw bullets. "The second amendment says nothing about ammunition. You want guns? Have your guns. Just no more bullets! Wanna kill a deer? Whack him on the head with your rifle butt!"

Chris Rock suggested raising the price of bullets to $5,000 each, which would lead to confrontations like this one: "Man, I would blow your motherf******" brains out......if I could afford it."

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How guns get into Chicago
by Josh K / January 3, 2013 10:55 PM PST
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/July-2012/Where-Do-Chicagos-Guns-Come-From/

A few excerpts:

Altogether, there are 441 federally licensed dealers in suburban Cook County and the five collar counties, according to the latest ATF data. Most of these suburban shops, officials say, are law-abiding businesses that operate responsibly. But a small percentage—fewer than 1 percent, the city says—are responsible for nearly half of all the firearms used in crimes in Chicago.

In 1992, Don Terry looked into the city's illegal gun market and found that obtaining a gun on the street was also easy:

The gangs and other criminals also get weapons through barter, or "trade-ins." The gangs trade narcotics for the guns of drug-addicted burglars, who will sell a $500 pistol for less than $100.

"We get half our guns through trade-ins with dope fiends," said a gang member on the South Side. "If you wanted a gun right now, we could put in an order and you'd have it. It's like going through the drive-through window. 'Give me some fries, a Coke and a 9-millimeter.' "

Terry spoke to one gang leader who got his first gun from a drug addict, had just bought 27 guns an addict stole from a retired police officer's house, and regularly went to gun shows to buy and then resell at a substantial profit on the black market—a combination of the many ways guns are exchanged in the city.


The article goes on to say that an unusually high percentage of gun homicides in Chicago are gang-related, which means a smaller number of guns are committing a larger number of murders.
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The point being that the great majority of murders
by Steven Haninger / January 3, 2013 10:58 PM PST

are committed by people who don't legally possess the gun they used.

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True.....
by Josh K / January 3, 2013 11:28 PM PST

.....though many of those guns were apparently legal originally, and then subsequently stolen. Unscrupulous gun stores also seem to contribute a lot to the problem.

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I keep waiting
by TONI H / January 4, 2013 12:10 AM PST
In reply to: True.....

eventually F&F guns will turn up far north of the border (do you really believe that they have stayed in Mexico?)......then perhaps you'll finally get around to calling the ATF unscrupulous??

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Try as you might....
by Josh K / January 4, 2013 12:12 AM PST
In reply to: I keep waiting

......you can't blame the gun violence in this country on F&F. Well, you CAN, I suppose, but you'd be wrong.

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sounds like Detroit
by James Denison / January 4, 2013 12:54 AM PST

We know what happened there eventually. Maybe the same will happen to Chicago?

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