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3rd i5 + GPU VS i7 w/out GPU for HD, games, music making

by slow235comp / November 22, 2012 4:44 PM PST

getting a $650ish laptop with 3rd generation intel i5/i7.

People told me a GPU's needed for Counter Strike Gloabal and HD video playing + editing. However, Intel lists Counter Strike Global as a game any 3rd generation Intel can play without a GPU if it's an HD 4000/2500 gfx model with Windows 7 64-bit (and assumingly windows 8 64-bit). I'd be getting an HD4000, so an HD2500's lesser quality doesn't matter. Intel link: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intelhdgraphics4000_25 00/sb/CS-033387.htm
Someone playing CS Global no problem with Intel 3rd generation CPU, HD4000 gfx without a GPU and a decent amount of other players http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UOle1uU_B8

This Intel video says all 3rd generation CPUs with intel HD GFX can PLAY HD smoothly. And, I assume blue ray because there are 3rd generation Intel laptops with blue ray players and no GPU. I don't want blue ray, just saying. Also, some forums say full HD can play on a 3rd generation Intel HD4000 gfx without a GPU but sometimes tweaks like bitstream or codex are needed.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-tech nology/hd-graphics/hd-graphics-video.html

About 5 sentences in, Intel says all 3rd generation CPUs with HD GFX can EDIT HD video: http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2012 /04/23/3rd-generation-intel-core-processors-bring-exciting-n ew-experiences-and-fun-to-the-pc

For about $650, an 8GB RAM laptop with either a low-end 3rd gen i7 without a GPU or a mid-to-high-end 3rd gen i5 with a GPU can be had.
I'm assuming the i5's at least a mid-grade i5, and the i7 would be low-grade i7. I'm trying to figure that all out, but this PC's so slow you have no idea, and I'm in a rush for Black Friday sales.

I want an i7 for a music making program with virtual instruments. I'm asking a music forum now if an i7's even needed considering what I'm trying to do. Also to make internet and Windows Explorer faster, but I assume I'll never even max-out an i5 with just internet and Windows Explorer, and everything will be instantaneous.

IOW, the only reasons I should get an i5 + GPU instead of an i7 without GPU would be to play video games that are more advanced than Counter strike Global and to play/edit full HD video without having to configure things like codex and bitstream?

Much Thanks.

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So far, no onboard GMA for gamers.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 23, 2012 12:24 AM PST

If the sheer numbers of folk that wanted to play games on GMA video is not enough to dissuade you from such a decision then it's very good news for computer sales in the next year.

From your post it appears you have talked yourself into the GMA will be fine.

I wouldn't buy that if I wanted to play the newer games.
Bob

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thanks
by slow235comp / November 23, 2012 2:21 PM PST

thread solved with help from other forums too.

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by slow235comp / November 29, 2012 10:06 AM PST
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edit: This solves most everything
games playable with with built-in Intel HD4000/25000 graphics:
http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/in...033387.htm

HD video play/editing depends on CPU more than GPU.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html
DAW music production software benchmarks:
http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm

"Those are PassMark benchmark scores. PassMark is a benchmarking software which runs the CPU through many stress tests like
read/write operations, math calculations, and graphics processing. People who run PassMark can submit the score they got with
their processor so those charts are showing the average submitted scores for each processor. I wouldn't read into the overclocked processor charts much because they include mild overclocks as well as extreme overclocks, and there's no way to know how overclocked the processor was when it got the given score. If you really want to see specific scores, you can click a processor from the list and it will show the last 5 submitted scores along with information like RAM, measured speed, hard drive, graphics card, etc."

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