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• There is a diesel bike being built for the military, Brit & US. It's on a Kawa frame with a diesel engine that can also burn AV gas. It's not bad, 140mpg, high torque, built for bad environments, road and off. Not commercially available yet, filling military orders and insufficient demand to warrant production expansion. Google "HDT Limited Edition KLR"
  
  Diesel bikes will come and it'll be a good mixed use bike with 400 mile range (which is ridiculous for a commercial non-touring bike). But the reason I like the electric, besides wanting to move away from fossils fuels (WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION AND SHOULD BE MADE ILLEGAL TO USE FOR CONSUMPTION). But I really like being able to tool around the farm without any noise other than the chain rattle and the snapping of sticks I fail to avoid. Imagine sneaking up on a white tail, now that is fabulous, eyeball to eyeball in frozen stares at ten feet and then a slight head feint right to send him on his way left.

  January 31, 2009

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• Actually you are both right and wrong. Yes the batteries will be recyclable although today it is not well done. But when the Prius series gets close to expiration you will see more/better. However, lithium when mined is a nightmare, just Google lithium Canada mines, what you will see is a moonscape.
  
  My opinion is that there are always trade offs and like coal mines the localized destruction can be reclaimed if the cost of this is made a mandatory set aside for later expense. In the end, the two biggest environmental issues today are warming, electric helps, and wasteful use of petroleum for consumption when it is a vital ingredient for industrial production, again electric helps. So, an electric bike is great, all I ask is take off the damn governor - full speed ahead.

  January 31, 2009

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