October 23, 2009 9:24 AM PDT

Motorola Droid specs get posted then pulled

by Bonnie Cha
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(Credit: Engadget Mobile)

Oops! It looks like a mistake on Motorola's part is giving Google Android and smartphone fans plenty to talk about on this fine Friday morning.

On Thursday night, Boy Genius Report was sent a tip that Motorola had posted an official product page for the upcoming Droid smartphone for Verizon Wireless. The site has since been pulled but not before screen grabs were taken of the feature list and spec sheet.

Some things we already knew about, such as the Android 2.0, 5-megapixel camera, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS. According to the page, however, the Droid will offer a Webkit HTML 5 browser with Flash 10 coming in 2010 and Microsoft Exchange Outlook and Calendar synchronization. The smartphone will be powered by a 550MHz processor and a 1,400mAh lithium ion battery offering 6.4 hours of continuous talk time and up to 11 days of standby time.

Physically, the phone measures 4.6 inches tall by 2.4 inches wide by 0.5 inch thick and weighs 6 ounces, while the Droid's 3.7-inch, 16:9 touch screen will have a 480x854-pixel resolution. Other notables include a 3.5mm headphone jack, a Micro-USB port, and a 16GB microSD card installed on the phone.

Motorola and Verizon will be co-hosting a media event October 28 where we presume they'll officially introduce the Motorola Droid. We'll be there to cover it but in the meantime, what do you think? Is this the iPhone killer that Verizon is making it out to be in its ads?

(Via Engadget Mobile)

Bonnie Cha is a senior editor for CNET, covering smartphones and GPS. When she's not testing the latest gadgets, you can find her chasing after her crazy lab or surfing in the chilly waters of Northern California. E-mail Bonnie.
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by androidspy October 23, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
I doubt this will be the iphone killer with similar specs and a gold D pad and a gold button on the side. That is absolutely horrendous. I hope the HTC Desire for Verizon has a faster cpu and 2.0 so I can make an easy decision and get that instead.
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by RonPaulRules October 23, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
Why would you want a phone with half the display resolution?
by celticbrewer October 23, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
hahaha. Yeah- "Whoops". I'm sure it was an accident and not an attempt to feed the press.

As for the phone- sounds pretty sweet to me. This IS the droid that I'VE been looking for. It's about time, Verizon!
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by Chirag1049 October 23, 2009 9:44 AM PDT
I don't believe in an iPhone 'killer'. Apple set the bar quite high for touchscreen interface and layout with the iPhone. In addition to, the Apple App store cannot be beat, it can only be matched. So far, no company has be been able to match the App store. The design and layout of the iPhone combined with the App store makes for an unbeatable combination.
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by celticbrewer October 23, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
I'll agree that currently there's no match to the App store. But how many of those apps did did apple program? That's right...

Developers will code for whoever has a large mass of customers willing to buy their programs. And I'm sure there'll be a "convert your iphone code to xyz platform" converters. MS already posted similar instructions for WinMo. It won't be long before other app stores have just as many programs as apple. And I doubt those stores will be as an@l and hostile towards the developers as Apple has been.

As for the interface you so love, I've seen it before the iPhone and I've seen it since. So that's hardly an "unbeatable combination". Throw in the disaster that is AT&T and I think it'd be very easy to kill the iPhone.
by Ratnok October 23, 2009 10:10 AM PDT
The design and layout for the iPhone can be beat- namely a larger screen with a REAL keyboard and an equally thin profile. Droid is almost there, but screwed up with the Gold d-pad and slightly longer and thicker profile. Android comes equipped with over both horizontal and vertical which can be customized with over 30 options if you choose to not use the keyboard. The App store can and will be beat once developers realize that the app store is only available to At&t customers and now Android Market is available to multiples of that number through Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile. Already, the Android Market is the 2nd largest app store- beating Blackberry, Nokia, Windows, and the pitiful Pre.
by Renegade Knight October 23, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
The iPhone's good, but it's not unbeatable. Klunky WinMo devices already did more a few generations back. Get rid of the klunk and there's a contenter. Palms got potential and so do android devices.

I doubt any will "Kill" the iPhone becasue what it does, it does well. The App store is both nice and a PITA. Devices that offer an app store (a good one) and native installs will have potential.
by kaizenblitz October 23, 2009 10:15 AM PDT
Apple's app store will only hold up their dated iPhone for so long. The design and layout was innovative when it was first introduced, but it needs to evolve in order to keep up with the competition.
by anotherprogrammer October 23, 2009 10:26 AM PDT
Although predicting the future is risky at best I think there's a very good chance that the number of Android apps will explode this year and surpass the number of apps in Apple's store. The reasons for this have to do with the huge number of Java/Linux programmers especially compared to Objective-C programmers. The learning curve for developing on Android is small.

Any developer can put their app in Google's store as opposed to Apple's where you have to get Apple's permission first before they'll allow an app on their store.

There will probably be at least about 10-20 Android phones by the first quarter of next year from various manufacturer (Motorola, HTC, Samsung, LG, Kyocera, etc). And there are other devices that will run Android (ex Barnes&Noble's newly announced Nook runs on Android. Raytheon is even developing a battlefield device that will run on Android).

So for a developer (especially a small independent developer) would you rather write for a single company's phone that has one model or would you rather write for a platform that you're already familiar with, can be targeted to many different phones from many different manufactures, and even target non-phone devices? And, after all your development effort you don't have to worry about the risk of Apple rejecting your app for any reason it feels like.

I think this will be similar to why there are more applications written for non-Apple computers than for Apple. Apple's proprietary, closed system limits how many people write to their OS. And yes, admittedly that number is quite high and Apple certainly isn't suffering financially. But proprietary systems many times lose to open systems, even if it takes quite a while.
by howithink October 23, 2009 2:48 PM PDT
@ Kaizenblitz... "but it needs to evolve in order to keep up with the competition" what competition? Apple has no competition. Apple is far ahead of any competition you speak of.
by tedyost1970 October 23, 2009 6:03 PM PDT
The apple app store is apple's achille's heel. An open source software platform, free of Apples big-brother hand will LOVE to develop using the 'droid SDK and for an audience that will soon dwarf what AT&T can bring to the table.
by quebert951 October 24, 2009 11:56 PM PDT
to anotherprogrammer - I would program for the phone that has more users. Who cares if there are 500 Android phones on the market this time next year? Apple still still have MILLIONS more. You go ahead and write apps for Android because they have more handsets on more carriers. Smart developers will focus on what's proven, which would be the app store. Has anyone made a $100,000 off the Android store? NOPE, but people have off the Apple store. And the fact Apple stress tests every app and has to approve it before it gets posted is a GOOD THING. I like secure apps that don't crash. That's just me
by renGek October 26, 2009 4:31 PM PDT
> by quebert951 October 24, 2009 11:56 PM PDT
> to anotherprogrammer - I would program for the phone that has more users. Who cares if there are 500 Android
> phones on the market this time next year? Apple still still have MILLIONS more.
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By your same logic then it justifies programmers ignoring building things for mac OS and stick with windows.

Fanboys seem to think that the iphone was launch with apps full blown and ready. How many apps were available for download 18 months ago? Open source development will ensure there will be more android apps than iphones closed system because there will be a much larger army of developers.

And while we're at it why the heck are there apps anyway. Any app that requires it to be connected online should just be a web app and not some dumb platform proprietary app.
by rollzroyce October 23, 2009 10:01 AM PDT
It's and iPhone killer spec wise, not so much in looks. Android rocks either way!
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by robertorosco October 23, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
I agree.. The specs sound great, but the phone looks a bit clunky. This is 2009, isnt it?
by TechnoMan475392 October 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
Yeah, true.

As much as I hate to admit it, the iPhone (3G and 3GS, NOT the first one) are really great looking, but I can't stand how they run.

Kind of like the computers, eh?
by andrey8411 October 23, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
"I hope the HTC Desire for Verizon has a faster cpu and 2.0 so I can make an easy decision and get that instead." by that time might as well wait for next iphone: http://www.goldschmidt.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/picture-323.png
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by Ratnok October 23, 2009 10:12 AM PDT
Why? So they can take advantage of the crappy AT&T service?
by hoss789 October 23, 2009 2:24 PM PDT
For the record the iPhone 3GS and android are using THE SAME EXACT PROCESSOR!!!!
by Tracker77 October 23, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
the only way this is an iPhone killer is if it combines Exchange corporate capability (read security), simple user interface with the power features of RIM.
iPhone's weakness is Apple's weakness--enterprise corporate features. Snow Leopard did significantly advance Apple in that arena.
The device encryption iPhone upgrade fiasco killed accessibility on our corp network because we're not going to let handheld devices out in the world without encryption.
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by RonPaulRules October 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT
That's not only iphones weakness. The other major glaring weakness is the network.
by TechnoMan475392 October 26, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
My mother works for a small business and was so incredibly excited to upgrade to SL (and ditch parallels), until she found out that SL only supports exchange 2007, and the business only supports 2003.

:'(
by TechnoMan475392 October 26, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
@ RonPaulRules

The network weakness is only in the USA, for the most part.
by Renegade Knight October 23, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
Motorola needs a hit. They haven't done much since the StarTac's were "the phone". It would not suprise me if this is their shot at it. Motorola can do good things, lets hope they found their way.
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by Matno October 27, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
Don't forget the Razr. That was THE phone to have for a long time and much more recently than the StarTac (but I was just lamenting that I miss my StarTac this afternoon!)
by solitare_pax October 23, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
Is it just me, but don't the little Droid figures look an awful lot like the critters in the "Zero Punctuation" game review strip?

I wonder if he will review it?
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by randygrenier October 23, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
There are already many great smartphones and more to come. Palm has had quite sophisticated smartphones since the 90's. iPhone just got more press, and some people are easily brainwashed.
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by NycSol October 23, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
Everyone is looking for the iPhone killer, but the truth is that there will never be one as long as "it" doesn't find it's own grove. Stop trying to go after the iPhone. For me, the iPhone is not just the sum of it's parts, but how it fits in to my choices with what I buy for my home. I know that I can get a windows PC for much less than I paid for my iMac, a better phone than the iPhone and AT&T, and there are plenty of apps coming out for Android where I can get my games and my runkeeper and my productivity apps. I can use Netflix to rent my movies online, and I can get a Zune to play the MP3's i can buy off of Amazon. And yes, again I will admit that I would probably save money that way. But I just love the way everything fits together - 1 PC (my iMac) and 1 device (My iPhone) and 1 on-line store (iTunes) - and it just works the exact way I expect it to. (and if any of you try to compare the iTunes movie library to Netflix, just remember that you have the same argument in reverse with the iTunes App store and Android)
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by craigshippCOM October 23, 2009 10:30 AM PDT
Smaller screen than an iPhone #fail
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by anotherprogrammer October 23, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
um, actually no, the droid 's screen is bigger. The droid's screen is 3.7" while the iphone's screen is 3.5".
by AppleSuxLeo October 23, 2009 3:54 PM PDT
The screen is BIGGER...and a higher resolution. iPhone specs are already dated , and stuck on an inferior network.
by espitia1 October 23, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
The phone is 1.2 ounces heavier, 0.1 inches taller, and 0.02 inches of more depth for your pocket. Unless it has something the iPhone doesn't, I seriously doubt this is the "iPhone killer".
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by myles taylor October 23, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
It has a lot of things the iPhone doesn't. The question is, are those things important enough to consumers.
by anotherprogrammer October 23, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
Basically the phones are the same size. I think other factors besides 1.2 more ounces and .02 inches are going to decide whether people buy this phone (1.2 ounces is about the net weight of a small bag of potato chips. The difference in thickness, 1.4 mm, is roughly about the thickness of 7-10 human hairs).
by RonPaulRules October 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
Lot's of things it has the iphone doesn't. Open development for starters. The best cell phone network for second.
by sohateme October 23, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
My gosh, a lot of shills for Nokia on line today. They're either that or Kool-Aid drinking MS Shills. Or *Trolls!* LOL.

Or just plain Apple Haters. And closet users of *multiple* iPods, no doubt.

Or else just suffering from Apple envy. It's sooooo obvious! ;-)

Aloha . . .
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by Ray180 October 23, 2009 12:36 PM PDT
Hey, hypocrite, you're the one trolling! This is a post about the Motorola Droid and you come along talking about Nokia shills for some unknown reason and Apple envy. News flash: throwing around off-topic, inflammatory comments is what makes a troll a troll. But, as a troll, I'm sure you already knew that.
by myles taylor October 23, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
It seems either wider or shorter than the iPhone. I can't really tell from the pictures. If it's wider, that doesn't seem very pocket friendly. For features, it looks pretty amazing. I don't like the look at all though.
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by cerebral_but_dull October 23, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
The problem isn't the iPhone, it's AT&T. I hate it and can't even use my iPhone in my own home in NJ. If Apple offers it to Verizon soon, the iPhone will be hard to beat. If they don't, I'll take an "almost" iPhone and go back to Verizon.
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by rendle25 October 23, 2009 11:00 AM PDT
I think this will be a wake up call to apple and force there hand to open up at least the 3g model to the other networks but for me the droid gets it just for the abillte to use flashplayer
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by jonimated October 23, 2009 11:43 AM PDT
Apple has already opened up in Canada. As of Novemeber the iPhone will be sold by every major carrier in Canada which include GSM (Rogers) CDMA (Telus & Bell) and soon HSPA (Tellus & Bell as well) networks.
by mizzikee October 23, 2009 11:37 AM PDT
iPhone Killer? How about they prove to be a competitor first. Remember, it didn't take "Version 2.0" for the iPhone to be successful. Not saying it's the best, but it didn't fumble out of the gates like android 1.0 and BB storm at least one a supposed iPhone killer. Not to mention a whole host of other not so successful murderous handheld devices. The truth is, every year, there WILL be a new iPhone and every year Apple WILL up the competition. If you need any proof of that, simply take a look at what they did to the MP3 player market. Apple are not afraid to refresh they're line up regularly. They are not afraid of competition. They also have nothing to worry about when the competition is busy trying to match & beat the iPhone's mere features instead of focusing on how to revolutionize our way of mobile computing as Apple did to begin with. That's why iPhone was a landmark success out of the gate, without GPS, without Video rec., without MMS, without Copy paste, without turn by turn, without a GOOD network, without an app store, without good battery life, without removable batteries, without encryption. Everything it wasn't, Most other phones were and yet it was a landmark success. Get my point? Stop trying to match and start trying to revolutionize or it's going to be an iPhone world forever.
-Mizzikee
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by October 23, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
Excellent point. I'm glad Apple kicked everyone's butt into gear, actually. It's forcing the manufacturers, software folks + carriers to up their collective games. Rock on, Mikki.
by October 23, 2009 11:43 AM PDT
I think it's safe to assume that there is no such thing as an iPhone killer anymore. I'm just happy Verizon will finally have a compelling handset on their robust network. I get to renew my contract at the end of November so the timing couldn't be more perfect! Anxious for the CNET review.
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by JonD23 October 23, 2009 11:55 AM PDT
I can't wait until the new line is available::



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by briand11 October 23, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
I think if Apple wants to maintain it's dominance it needs to shed that deal with AT&T. Verizon's network and line up of phones stands to make a sizable impact on Apple's lead in the smartphone market. Verizon's network is just too good.
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