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February 29, 2008 11:28 AM PST

Buzz Out Loud 671: Vista Price Patch 1

by Molly Wood
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Windows Vista may be maligned, enterprise-unfriendly, and seemingly without compatible drivers, but hey, at least it's cheaper! In other not-at-all-surprising news, it looks like Apple's iPhone SDK might be a little locked down, they might micromanage the apps that end up on the phone, and don't even get us started on the accessories situation. In sum, your basic Apple stuff.

--Molly


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Episode 671

Episode 671

Microsoft cuts Vista price
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/29/vista_price_cut/
http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9882510-56.html

iPhone/iPod SDK: Apple to approve, distribute apps, limit add-ons
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ iphone-ipod-sdk-apple-to-approve-distribute-apps-limit-add-ons/13537
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/29/ iphone-software-development-to-be-locked-down-by-apple/

Bluetooth not working after iPhone 1.1.4?
Simple fix: http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/02/28/ bluetooth-not-working-after-iphone-114-simple-fix/

Mac OS X secretly cripples non-Apple software
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/28/2339246

Wii outsells the PS3 4-to-1 in Japan, Sony execs “not psyched”
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/29/ wii-outsells-the-ps3-4-to-1-in-japan-sony-execs-not-psyched/

Artists to music labels: Where’s our Napster money?
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9882624-7.html

Google expands free phone number and voice mail project
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9882460-7.html

Steve Chen: YouTube to add live video
http://newteevee.com/2008/02/28/steve-chen-youtube-to-add-live-video/

BBC broadcasting Rugby Six Nations match in 3D
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/28/ bbc-broadcasting-rugby-six-nations-match-in-3d/

U.S. Air Force shoots down blogs, airmen frustrated
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/ 20080229-us-air-force-shoots-down-blogs-airmen-frustrated.html

Robin Williams saves the day at TED when tech fails
http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/02/robin-williams.html

Final goodbye for early Web icon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7270583.stm

Voice mail

MC Fisticuffs
I’m studying for my doctorate.

Tracy from Atlanta
So wait, I have an iPhone question.

Jeremy from Delaware
Save Palm!

E-mail

Copyright tax thoughts

Hi Gang,

Sorry I’m late to the game on this but I’ve been a bit busy lately. I did have some thoughts on the Copyright tax which I like the idea of, but I think it might prove to be a bit untenable.

First-You could tax this property if you wanted to. (Just thinking (Buzz) out loud now-no real research done on any of this.) The Government’s right to grant Copyright protection comes directly from the Constitution, and presumably this question of taxation would only come up as an issue of Interstate Commerce-which The Federal Government can collect on. So we wouldn’t have to worry about which state the work is in, or if it crosses state lines because it would be a Federal, not State, issue (for those two reasons). States pretty much don’t protect copyright because the ‘76 Act grants protection at the moment of fixation. You just get it from the Federal Government straight away-so state protection is (pretty much) moot.

With regards to IP existing in someone’s head a la the Coke Formula-that’s not a problem here. Again, protection is extended (as the Magician pointed out) when it is fixed (again for Copyright only now). The protection is for the content of things, but only after it has been fixed. So there would have to be tangible thing somewhere-even if the thoughts and expressions can be retained intangibly.

The real problem I think is deciding who to tax: We all have copyrights on things we have written, but should we all be taxed based on that? Should my blog (which I do have protection for) be taxed simply because its protected? If everyone starts going to http://www.thesoftlounge.com/blog because of the insightful reviews of Lost, or the stellar coverage of the Buffalo Bills in the off-season, or just for the charming wit of the author and I can start selling ad space is that enough for the tax to kick in? If that happened, I presumably would be paying taxes already on the revenue I generate-should I be doubly taxed then? Or I if I’m not making any money, but I just don’t want people to pass of my work as their own should I have to pay for that right? Remember-even a Creative Commons License only works because the copyright is already in place, so even giving permissions and limitations to people with such a license doesn’t get around the notion that you are using the copyright protection.

Further, if you file at the Copyright Office to retain a record of the ownership of your work (which grants you a few extra perks such as the right to sue in Federal Court) you have to pay a fee-should there be a tax on top of that as well?

I’m with you guys, I want there to be some way that major copyright holders who exploit the long protection period for financial gain at the cost of the public domain to either be paying a bit more for that privilege, or to be forced into letting the work go-but I think the collateral damage to smaller publishers could be huge and, at first glance anyway, there doesn’t seem to be an easy workaround.

Frank L.

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Magicians’ intellectual property

Dear Buzz crew,

Here’s a good Economist article on how IP is regulated in the magicians’ world:

http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9825182

Just a soundbite:

The traditional view is that IP can be protected only by the long arm of the law. But magicians rarely rely on the law, as the very act of describing what they want protected would reveal their secrets.

{}s,
Fabio
Sao Paulo, Brazil

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Comcast

Hi guys, thanks for the podcast. I thought you might be interested in my experience with Comcast.

I called Comcast’s 1-888 number to ask about a rumor that TV guide channel was being removed from the analog cable, I never got an answer to that. I had two different people tell me that _by law_ they will need to be discontinuing analog service as of next February. Even after I talked about that only being for over the air and mentioning dtv.gov, they stuck by their guns. The second lady even argued that they had training and this is what they were taught… she knows better than little old silly me.

I called the state, who told me to call the county who told me that they did not have control over what Comcast said (and thought they were right) but would send my concerns to Comcast. A lady from Comcast called me and said that of course I was correct in what I was saying. She seemed quite concerned that Comcast employees were saying differently and wanted information about who I had spoken.

While I had her on the line, I told her that if Comcast forced me to get a box on every TV, I would be leaving Comcast. Honestly, the lack of a set-top box is the only thing keeping me from Dish or FIOS.

Amy from Maryland

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Peter Jackson can’t save New Line

Hey Buzz crew,

It’s Sperling, the digital cinema product manager from Los Angeles. A few weeks back I wrote in after you reported the story about the Tolkien estate suing New Line Cinema for not receiving any of the profits from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. At the time, I mentioned the eyebrow raising which occurred throughout the industry when just a month before New Line released their turkey, The Golden Compass, they miraculously came to an agreement with Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson on The Hobbit.

It turns out that all those industry insiders that had speculated the studio might be in financial trouble when they conceded to the Jackson deal weren’t far from wrong. No doubt you know by now, not even pinning their financial hopes to the famed director and his Rings prequel could save the studio, as Time Warner is shuttering the New Line so that it can be absorbed by Warner Bros. Pictures. I guess sometimes Hollywood rumors really are true.

However, given your report on the Tolkien estate law suit, the whole affair really brings out the conspiracy theorist in me. Could Time Warner be folding New Line simply to avoid paying the Tolkien’s their piece of the $1 billion gross Rings raked in? Probably not, as Time Warner would still be liable, but even so . . . [in Molly’s voice] I’m just saying!

Of course, love the show.

Regards,
Sperling

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Buzz town mottos for Wiki

Hey Tom, Molly, and Jason

Myself and a few other buzzers (Trojanbee and Tales) have been working on some mottos in the watchbol.com chat (live chat) for the Buzz Town wiki and we need your help. So far we have these 12:

1: "The content may be inspired by them, but the work was us." (Trojanbee)
2:”When the robots, zombies, Mac Users, and RIAA come knocking on your door, you know where to find us.” (Trojanbee)
3:”You know, we were just kidding about making this for you? Its all about us- us, us, us!” (Trojanbee)
4:”Watch BOL, Now with extra buttons” (Tales)
5:”‘Plain and simple’!?!- Your in the wrong place” (Trojanbee)
6:”Well, actually, we don’t care for this whole ‘Web 2.0′ experience.”(Trojanbee)
7:I’m to editorializing for this sort of “emotional” stuff(Trojanbee)
8:”We want to be helpful. Just keep Molly away from the code.”(Trojanbee)
9:”If we build this for them, do you think they’ll release on time?”(Trojanbee)
10:”Soon, all are plans will be complete(d) (and Buzz Town will fill the world with nerditude)!!!”(Trojanbee)
11:”Might I recommend the Linux Chaser with your Cake?”(Trojanbee)
12: “If I listen to all of the podcasts, do I get a cookie?”(Trojanbee)

Do you have any ideas for the Buzz Town wiki motto? Can you create lucky No.13?

Love the podcast,

Jacob the student from Australia - Wiki (Thanks to Trojanbee for helping me edit it)

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Cultureofownership.com?

Molly, I just went to http://cultureofownership.com and it just forwarded to .org, and it sure looks like your blog.

Miles

As host of the Buzz Report video series, Molly provides a fresh and funny perspective on the latest consumer electronic products to hit the market, as well as commentary on the stories and development that she thinks are truly buzz-worthy. She is also co-host of Buzz Out Loud, CNET's "podcast of indeterminate length," which entertains listeners with a funny and skeptical take on the day's technology news. Her other podcast, Gadgettes, is proof that girls can be geeks too.
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by oce.net February 29, 2008 1:04 PM PST
Where did all the listener contributions go? They're missing from the show notes. They were the only reason why I read the show notes.
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by izmirtheastarach February 29, 2008 1:14 PM PST
For reference, the consumer versions of Vista are:

Home Basic
Home Premium
Business
Ultimate

And never have I heard so many complaints about a company lowering the price on a product we all agree is overpriced. Isn't this a GOOD thing? I for one am happy that I will be able to offer my customers more affordable options for upgrading to Vista. What could possibly be wrong with that? The OEM versions I sell have been decreasing in price steadily since the OS debuted. This is completely normal. It's only the retail versions that have a static price point.

We should be celebrating this.
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by alex_smurf February 29, 2008 2:14 PM PST
My name got mentioned (Tales) Yeah :)
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by Mojomichael February 29, 2008 3:24 PM PST
I am not a power Mac user, I already thought that Steve Jobs ruled all third party apps for OS X with an iron fist. I thought his whole deal was that he didn't want to allow just anyone to put out software for his beautiful interface with ugly or poorly designed applications. Isn't this how they keep their system so robust? They make sure everything always works with almost no bugs before it is allowed to be released to the public. He isn't going to let some punk hacker kid to go uglying up his little gem.

BTW, Jobs does eventually come around on things. Didn't he once maintain that no one would ever want to watch video on an iPod screen?
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by Mojomichael February 29, 2008 3:52 PM PST
It seems to me that you should take into consideration the relative prices of the Wii and the PS3 or XBox 360 when comparing unit sales. The Wii is so cheap that they most certainly will sell more. That said, they are not 1/4 the price of a next gen console.
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by kowyzg0moo March 1, 2008 4:32 PM PST
Just a quick note about the iPhone itself - I know there was talk between Verizon and Apple regarding the iPhone, since Verizon does have a far superior deal - but what I think took the deal down was the fact that Verizon DOES NOT USE SIM CARDS.

By allowing the use of Sim Cards, you ultimately allow people to use the phone anywhere they choose, and thus we see this phenomenon in which people are buying iPhones and importing them to other countries outside the US (such as the 400,000 iPhones on China Mobile). If the iPhone were to have been CDMA, it would have really limited its potential to spread into the global market. It seems like a logical approach by Apple to secretly be able to sell its iPhone.
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by hollyhock March 5, 2008 7:58 AM PST
I just uninstalled Netscape from my work PC. It was kept around only as an alternate browser when testing things for work. Mostly a way to prove/disprove things being cached or not. *sigh* That felt good.
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