December 4, 2007 11:13 AM PST

Episode 616: Losing faith in Facebook

by Molly Wood
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Wow, it turns out this Beacon advertising thing is really messed up, y'all! Now Facebook has admitted that the ad service would track your purchases on third-party sites even when you're logged off. That's evil power, right there. Speaking of evil power, it turns out that a small, power-mad cadre of paranoid editors has been secretly controlling Wikipedia via mailing list. Thought so.

--Molly


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EPISODE 616

TODAY'S LINKS:


TODAY'S VOICE MAIL:
Michael from New York
Poltergeist in my iPod

Matt from St. Louis
Where can a guy change into his tights these days?

Ashwin
So what would Coke be selling anyway?



FORUMS:
How about anti-disinformation digital switch-over flyers?!?
Is anyone like EFF or the FCC working on that? I'm just sayin'--educated tech-heads of the world--be empowered to inform those who don't know better, ya know? I'd be happy to put flyers at my apartment complex and hand them out.

Yeah, that isn't much of a battle cry--feel free to create one...maybe something like "consumer empowerment now!"...er something.

Best,
Shalin

TODAY'S E-MAIL:
Digital television answers for everyone
Hey Buzz crew,

A quick note to all of your subscribers, the Web site http://dtvanswers.com has a lot of FAQs about digital televisions and digital broadcast signals. Most of your subscribers can probably find this information themselves, but this may be a good site for them to recommend their not-so-techy friends and family to take a look at and learn the facts of the DTV broadcast switch. Note, it does mention that consumers that subscribe to cable, satellite, and phone company services will not be affected by the switch. This will help the not-so-techy get an upper hand on the sales reps telling them differently.

Love the show,
Engineer Joe from Indiana

Gerstmann hoopla
Hey buzzers,

OK, so I was mighty tempted to pull the plug on all my CNET subscriptions in the wake of the Gerstmann-gate hoopla, but have accepted your position that CNET.com and Gamespot.com are two seperate entities, and agree with Molly that not everyone should be tarred with the same big brush. However, I think there are still some issues here that have not been satisfactorily addressed. On Friday's podcast, you promised to deal with the Gamespot issue on Monday's show--you did but, I have to be honest, it didn't feel particularly whole-hearted. As the self-described reporters on Buzz, it seems to me that you missed all sorts of buzz--the intertubes are packed with stories on this, all of which makes for very interesting reading, even if the medium is, in fact, the real message.

But, here's my real issue with this. I'll take, at face value, your assertion that the folks at CNET.com aren't pressured by editors or advertisers with regard to content. But I can't shake the deep suspicion that the opposite is true at Gamespot.com. I'll also accept the assertion that those two sites are independent (more or less). The only conclusion to be drawn is that CNET.com and Gamespot.com are being held to different editorial standards. This certainly goes toward the (very skeptical) buzz about 'gaming journalism' that has been zooming around the tubes. At the end of the day, this is a huge sticking point for me, and I still think that 'CNET Networks' has some 'splaining to do.

Todd ("Todd-the-theatre-professor") Hennessey

Comcast offering 100Mbps?
BOL #614--you talked about Comcast DOCSIS 3 and FiOS.

Don't bet on it!

The spec calls for 160Mpbs, right? Well, DOCSIS2 calls for 40Mbps and when was the last time you actually got that "up to" 8Mbps?

You cannot compare a shared cable "up to" xMbps with a true fiber xMbps.

Fiber is considerably faster, and easily upgradeable.

I'm not sure if you are aware, but several communities already offer fast fiber connections to their citizens without relying on incumbent providers. I published a case study Burlington, Vermont, and its publicly owned fiber network at http://www.newrules.org/info/bt.html that was later featured on Future Tense.

Christopher M.

As host of the Buzz Report video series, Molly provides a fresh and funny perspective on the latest consumer electronic products to hit the market, as well as commentary on the stories and development that she thinks are truly buzz-worthy. She is also co-host of Buzz Out Loud, CNET's "podcast of indeterminate length," which entertains listeners with a funny and skeptical take on the day's technology news. Her other podcast, Gadgettes, is proof that girls can be geeks too.
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by barthosch December 4, 2007 12:55 PM PST
Love the show. And of course you can drive directly to France on the Autobahn! :-)
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by Papa Chango December 4, 2007 6:50 PM PST
That Wikipedia story couldnt get any geekier if it was wearing tape on its glasses while humping Steve Jobs' leg: "...Revealed after an uber-admin called "Durova" used it in an attempt to enforce the quixotic ban of a longtime contributor, this secret mailing list seems to undermine the site's famously egalitarian ethos."

Of course, you had me at "power-mad cadre of paranoid editors has been secretly controlling Wikipedia".
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by backfrog December 5, 2007 6:29 AM PST
about phonebooths for cell phones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CddG-tN8TkM
it's made by an artist from Boston (i think)
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by wyth December 5, 2007 7:41 AM PST
JaMaTom:

On the empty phone booth for cell phones -- that's already in place at the University of Virginia's main library. There was a row of pay phone booths in the library, and rather than take out the booths, they just ripped out the phones. Too bad Alderman library is louder outside the booths than inside. I know a lot of grad students who'd happily rent a phone booth for a quiet place to study.
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by chiragmehta December 5, 2007 10:31 AM PST
BIG fan, love the show, I wait for Tom and Molly eagerly everyday....but how about naming the episode as "Losing faith in Gaming Journalism" instead of facebook.
Facebook corrected their error. But what about Cnet?
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