Buzz Out Loud 1014: Goobuntu lives
On today's Buzz Out Loud, Natali and Molly form a new Amazonian society in advance of the development of artificial sperm. But in much more important news, Google is finally building the thin-client, Netbook-friendly operating system that Molly predicted back in 2005. And poor Yahoo is stuck in 2005: it just announced Search Pad. Aw. Poor Yahoo.
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EPISODE 1014 |
Introducing the Google Chrome OS
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10281744-2.html
Which Molly predicted in 2005!
http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-5759958-1.html
Yahoo Search Pad
http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=394383
Michael Jackson memorial pushes Internet traffic to its limits
http://gigaom.com/2009/07/07/michael-jacksons-memorial-online-traffic-pushes-internets-limits/
http://mashable.com/2009/07/07/cnn-live-stream-michael-jackson/
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-jackson-memorial-stats-roughly-6000-facebook-status-updates-per-minute-/
Federal sites hacked
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070703250.html
http://government.zdnet.com/?p=5093
RIAA/music streaming sites agreement
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/technology/internet/08radio.html
http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/08/1339224/Pandora-Stabilizes-No-Longer-Completely-Free
LG Chocolate Phone: what is this aspect ratio??
http://gizmodo.com/5309204/new-lg-chocolates-secret-feature-is-an-800x345-resolution-219-cinema-widescreen-display
West Virginia sues Comcast over cable box tying
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/reviews/2009/07/west-virginia-sues-comcast-over-cable-box-tying.ars
Gaze-tracking software protects computer privacy
http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/07/07/1946217/Gaze-Tracking-Software-Protects-Computer-Privacy
British scientists can make sperm
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/07/08/3007405-british-scientists-claim-to-create-human-sperm
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During your discussion of Google Chrome OS today, I am curious as to what impact, if any, GCOS might also have on older PCs. Since GCOS is already targeted at low-powered Netbooks, it stands to reason GCOS might also breathe some extra life into that 5-year-old laptop you were thinking of ditching. By moving a lot of the processing power from your lap to the cloud, could an unintended consequence be a reprieve on hardware's life cycle? Certainly Google wouldn't complain.
Mike in Dayton
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On August 7, 2009
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Khaled from Saudi Arabia.
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If your still unclear, it will work in a similar way to the Palm Pre.
From the blog;
Google Chrome OS will run on both x86 as well as ARM chips and we are working with multiple OEMs to bring a number of netbooks to market next year. The software architecture is simple ? Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel. For application developers, the web is the platform. All web-based applications will automatically work and new applications can be written using your favorite web technologies. And of course, these apps will run not only on Google Chrome OS, but on any standards-based browser on Windows, Mac and Linux thereby giving developers the largest user base of any platform.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
When Google releases it's [i]devs[/i] (as opposed to everything the aquisition), it RARELY works as they claim it will... that's if it even makes it past R&D!!
And who REALLY wants a cloud-based OS, when if your network goes down, bye-bye OS!!
ALSO - Google jumped on the EU attack on MS, which is witch-hunting for MS's intergrating MS for IE intergration - *** is GOOGLE doing??
STOP making assumptions - until Google releases a beta - or even an Alpha - release, STOP making assumptions!!
Simply put, the Internet is not even CLOSE to being ready for a mainsteaming of a cloud-based OS. Look at the way events such as 9 11, or even the recent death of Wacko Jacko froze up sections of the Web. Look back only a couple of months when Google's apps went down due to server probs. Would you want to be running a business and have critical applications suddenly become unavailable due to on-line problems, or an ISP outage?? It may sound like a wonderful idea, but the simple reality is that we are at least a decade of it becoming fully feasible.
Also, you are forgetting that Palms and phones have become so feature-rich, that they've pretty much BECOME the mobile-PC already. I can send an email, surf the web, catch up on the news, visit YouTube, sync my docs - all in a package that is far smaller than ANY netbook. And the new LG touchscreen contender even has inbuilt nVidia graphics acceleration.
As you also mention, the Web is becoming "content rich". There are some elements of the web which simply require system and hardware capabilities not suited to a macro-device. A lot of sites also require high-bandwith capabilities, best catered to by an N1 wireless-capable device. We are not yet seeing N1-capable netbooks yet.
Another factor is the fact that most netbook owners also have at leas one PC or notebook device, and being able to sync or network them together is crital to most of tho users. I'm not so sure it will be such a pleasant experience if Chrome OS just happens to be running on one of those devices and Windows (or worse for compatibility, OS X).
You raise the point of notebooks in schools (also common here in Australia). This raises two points. Firstly, schools tend to be rather protective of their local networks - do you REALLY think they are going to want such a security NIGHTMARE (cause that is how many are considering a entire OS which is plugged directly into Google Corp) running through their network?? I don't think so somehow!! Secondly, although many schools are making notebooks a requirement, many schools do not have wireless access point in ALL areas of the school. What are students s'posed to do if they suddenly can't access their cloud-document writer because they have no internet access in that particular classroom??
As to the iPod's supposed superiority.... HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Creative has LONG run the lead in technological superiority. The iPod is a perfect example of how an inferior product can be the market leader purely through smart marketing. So PLEASE don't try and sell FUD as FACT!!
Another point. Google is VERY well known to mine a hell of a lot of info from the user, via the likes of GMAIL (ever noticed how the ads in GMAIL are always just soooo well aimed at the account holder??), logging Google searches, YouTube habits (yes, Google is the proud owner of YouTube), as well as a raft of other sources. You'd have to be OUT OF YOUR MIND to plug into an OS which is basically an OPEN DOOR to their marketing machine!!
At the end of the day, a cloud-based OS will appeal to a PORTION of the market, if and when it can be implimented in a rock-solid fashion. But the majority will still want to be able to run and manage a locally installed software suite.
A couple of assumptions that ppl seem to keep making, with absolutely NO factual basis:
* Google has in no way guarunteed that after rollout, that Chrome OS will REMAIN open-source, instead of being locked down with the usual Google patents.
* Google has NOT ONCE said it will be a free OS.... stop making bl@@dy assumptions!
* Almost EVERYTHING Google actually develops itself (as opposed to all those aquisitions) falls in a heap. Look at Android, their Mobile phone OS, which fallen well short of the hype and recieve rather lacklustre approval... what makes you think Chrome OS will be any different??
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by Bill_Anderson
July 13, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
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(10 Comments)I was listening to episode 1014 while riding my bike, and just about fell off when you said my name and started talking about Chameleon and PrivateEye. I've been listening to your show since just before I started the company (Oculis Labs) and I've gotta say it's a rush to hear you guys talking about it now.
I wanted to address one misconception that came up about Chameleon. Somebody said "it can't protect the words on the screen if I read over your shoulder when you're reading, it must be just blocking from a certain angle". In fact, it does protect the words against eavesdropping, and it does it in a very different way from what you may think.
Chameleon uses a gazetracker to figure out exactly which words the user is looking at at any point in time. It replaces every other word on the screen, on the fly, with false words that have the same length and lexical type. (for example, 3 letter nouns are replaced with 3 letter nouns, 4 letter verbs with 4 letter verbs, etc.). The effect is that the true content is hidden within false content, and is hard to distinguish from the false. We have a number of other more sophisticated tricks in the implementation.
If this seems unlikely to you, you're in good company. Most people have to see it for themselves to believe it works, but it does. For a reliable reference, Gus Sentementes of the Baltimore Sun met with us and saw it for himself recently http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/technology/2009/06/protecting_your_computer_scree.html
Thanks much for the notice. Keep up the great work.
Bill Anderson
P.S. Love.The.Show.