June 8, 2009 11:55 AM PDT

Buzz Out Loud 991: The Pre iPhone show

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We wrap up coverage of the Palm Pre but are too early for the WWDC. Don't worry. We'll cover those announcements in a separate episode of Buzz Out Loud later in your feed. we also disrespect the Bing and congratulate the Pirate Party on their win.


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EPISODE 991

EPISODE 991

Palm Pre’s big day
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10258825-94.html

After dismantling, Palm Pre is estimated to cost $170
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10258774-1.html

Palm sells 50,000 Pres
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19374

WWDC 2009 live blog
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10257637-37.html

Apple prepares to reset the bar in the mobile app market
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10258103-37.html

Twitter to roll out ‘Verified Accounts’ this summer
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10258816-93.html
http://blog.twitter.com/2009/06/not-playing-ball.html

Bing off to solid start, but not that good
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10258576-2.html

Swedish Pirate Party headed to European Parliament
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/06/swedish-pirate-party-headed-to-european-parliament.ars

China to preload PCs with filtering software
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/08/2907487-china-requires-pcs-to-come-with-anti-porn-software

Acer 3D laptop
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/acer-launching-3d-laptop-in-october-nerd-specs-required/

New Zealand gets first dibs on Windows 7
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10258946-75.html

Hacker named to Homeland Security Advisory Council
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10258634-83.html

PSP Go lacks mini USB, compatibility with existing accessories, common sense
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/psp-go-lacks-mini-usb-compatbility-with-existing-accessories-c/

Sony considering UMD game trade-in program for PSP Go digital versions
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/05/sony-considering-umd-game-trade-in-program-for-psp-go-digital-ve/

*****
VOICEMAIL

Brandon in Philly calling from his Palm Pre

Richard in LA about Bing and the Microsoft logo

Firechief Kevin on how Emergency Services work

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EMAIL
Hey Buzz Crew,

I’m a relatively new listener, so I apologize if you’ve already covered this. I’ve recently learned of a machine called the EBM or “Espresso Machine” (http://www.ondemandbooks.com/hardware.htm). It’s a “book ATM” that is about the size of an office copy machine and can print and bind books to order. Their site claims that this machine will print a 300-page book in less than four minutes at a production cost of a penny per page. An NPR story reports that the machines retail cost about $175,000. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104644575).

I was wondering about the crew’s opinion on this as it relates to the kindle. This seemingly cheap and more environmentally friendly way to produce books would be enough to convince me to try this contraption. Do you think this technology could catch on? If so, how do you think it would affect the publishing industry and reading community?

Keep up the good work!

Christine, the music teacher

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Hi guys,

I wanted to put my two cents in about the omelette in plastic. This
form of cooking if called sous-vide, under vacuum in french
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sous_vide).

Basically, you put whatever you want to eat in a vacuum sealed bag and
then cook it in hot water for some period of time. This is a very
popular way of cooking meat because you can cook the meat at 140
degrees Fahrenheit and you get the meat rare from edge to edge, it
might not look very good, pink throughout, but you could grill it for
a few seconds to get a charred exterior. The omelette in the zip lock
bag is pretty much the exact same thing just instead of meat you put
eggs and veggies and bacon. Sous-vide is a great way to make pulled
pork because by definition you cannot overheat the meat and thus you
can leave the meat in there for hours and even days.

As for the plastic, most zip lock bags do have on the manufacturer’s
site or the box it came in a max temp for the bag to be used under so
you do not want to over heat it. When heating up plastic, though, only
some kinds, the plastic releases a form of estrogen that can affect
mammary glands and in general is not good for you
(http://www.bio-medicine.org/biology-news/Compounds-in-plastic-packaging-act-as-environmental-estrogens-altering-breast-genes-585-1/).
However, there are special food grade plastics that do not have the
same compounds and withstand heat to a better degree and these food
grade plastics are the ones that should be used for the sous-vide,
though, one of those extra-tough zip lock bags used in water under the
max temp should be ok for making the omelettes.

————————
Gary Katsevman
Computer Science Undergraduate
Northeastern University

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by geff1--2008 June 8, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
Apple selling the OS X upgrade at $29.00 is obviously a stab at Microsoft. According to Paul Thurotte on Windows weekly, Microsoft planned on selling the Windows 7 upgrade between $79, for the basic edition, to over $200, for the ultimate edition. Now Microsoft has 2 choices.

Choice 1: Sell Windows 7 at a similarly low price. This means that Microsoft would have to sell many more copies than they originally planned in order to get a good return on their investment.

Choice 2: Sell Windows 7 at their original target price. As soon as they would announce these prices, Apple would put new commercials of PC vs MAC where they would compare their prices and show that Windows is more expensive than Mac. This would be a stab directly at Microsoft's current "I'm a PC" ads showing that Macs are too expensive.

Either way, Apple has put Microsoft in a position that they did not want to be in.
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by LenSp June 8, 2009 2:57 PM PDT
For people buying a new computer, the OS cost is rolled into the price. So Apple won't score any points since people will only care about the overall price, not the price of subcomponents like the OS. And the overall Apple price will still be higher. No one's going to spend a $1,000 instead of $800 because part of the $800 involves a more expensive OS than the OS in the $1,000 machine.

And for people with machines already, there's no comparison since the systems are different. That's comparing apples and oranges.
by geff1--2008 June 9, 2009 9:02 AM PDT
@LenSp : You are correct that the cost of a new computer will not be affected too much by the difference in the OS. As I said in the bottom of my comment, the upgrade to Windows 7 is the most anticipated Windows upgrade since going from 3.1 to 95.

There are a lot of disappointed Vista users who are anxiously waiting to upgrade to Windows 7. It is true that they can not upgrade to Mac. My point is that it is a matter of perception. The perception of if they had a mac the upgrade would be cheaper is the type of negative image that Microsoft can do without.

This is obviously an, by Apple, attempt to widen the rift of bad blood between disappointed Windows customers and Microsoft.
by Macskeeball June 8, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
Episode 991 doesn't seem to be appearing in the audio podcast feed.
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by joebuck June 8, 2009 4:22 PM PDT
Macskeeball same problem here. past two shows have not shown up in My meida player software Media monkey.
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by firehawk12 June 8, 2009 5:30 PM PDT
Yeah, hopefully the feed gets updated... or I'll just have to download it manually I suppose.
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by mnogrady June 8, 2009 9:09 PM PDT
Would someone please add 991 to the Itunes feed. It goes 990 then 992, no 991.


Thanks
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by tangie672000 June 8, 2009 11:44 PM PDT
No post in iTunes yet. How do you manually download it?
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by Khaled A. June 9, 2009 3:46 AM PDT
I could look into the RSS but apparently iTunes is thinking the 2 episodes are identical for some reason. Please tell me the rss isn't manually updated ?
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by Willbost June 9, 2009 3:52 AM PDT
Still no ep 991 in iTunes.
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by acedtect June 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT
The episode *was* in the RSS feed (and uh, you can manually download it by clicking the link up there). What was wrong is that there was a space in the blog post after the .mp3 which causes iTunes to freak out and reject the episode. I've fixed that, so hopefully it will show up soon.
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by aristotle_dude June 11, 2009 9:42 PM PDT
Don't any of you guys on BOL fact check? When the micro-transactions feature was announced, Apple stated that "free" apps would be locked out of being able to use in app purchase. Way to spread the FUD guys. The micro-transactions feature is supposed to be used for buying additional content such as new levels for a paid game, not upgrades/bug fixes.
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