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Buzz Out Loud 926: Save the opera-singing stripper, save the world

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We get a call from a person in Chicago directly affected by the idea of Craigslist shutting down the erotic section of its service. We also have a rousing discussion about the quality of digital music and Rafe comes close to telling a Bris joke. But he doesn't.


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EPISODE 926

Compact Disc turns 30
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/09/compact-disc-turns-30-mp3-doesnt-bother-to-send-a-gift/

Survey shows increasing preference for MP3 by youngsters, audiophiles weep
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/09/survey-shows-increasing-preference-for-mp3-by-youngsters-audiop/

Wolfram promises computing that answers questions
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/08/2155216
http://www.twine.com/item/122mz8lz9-4c/wolfram-alpha-is-coming-and-it-could-be-as-important-as-google
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13953_3-10191304-80.html

Audio watermarks could pinpoint film pirates by seat
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/07/2114208

Big music will surrender, but not until at least 2011
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/08/big-music-will-surrender-but-not-until-at-least-2011/

More free on-demand audio with Muziic
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10191262-27.html

Chess match: Hulu blocks Boxee once again
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10191007-93.html

Wintek to supply touch panels for Apple Netbook, says paper
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090309PB204.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10191526-1.html

Kepler starts mission to detect other Earths
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10191272-76.html

Olympus: 12 megapixels is enough
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html

Intel envisions shape-shifting smartphones
http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/09/1312200

Craigslist to sheriff: Federal law protects site
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10191150-93.html

VOICEMAIL
Anonymous Stripper
About Craigslist erotic services

Lorenzo
Goodbye Circuit City

E-MAIL
Regarding your Eircom discussion on show 925.

Tom your suggestion for people to boycott Eircom is pretty good in theory. It would probably work well in the US where actual consumer choice exists. In Ireland, however, Eircom have a monopoly on landline installations. You have the option to switch over to another provider once you’ve paid Eircom to have your phone line installed but most people are too lazy to shop around for another provider or simply just don’t care.

Additionally, internet by cable is unavailable to most of the country. I live in downtown Dublin and I don’t even have access to the one internet cable provider NTL. By default, therefore, most people stick with Eircom. Eircom already has a bad reputation in Ireland, so most principled consumers (like myself) have already been boycotting them for years. Considering the EU is usually so good at breaking monopolies and abusive behaviour by companies it’s incredible Eircom is still in business. Where are you EU?

Thanks

Tim from Montreal in Dublin.

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Buzz Crew,

After downloading the Kindle app, I tried to download my first book using just my iPhone. Can’t do it from the Kindle app. Can’t do it from Amazon app. Can’t do from the mobile version of the Amazon website. Only by using the URL amazon.com/kindlestore can you order and it is as difficult as using the onscreen keyboard to type this e-mail. I think something got rushed out the door.

My FIRST team is 247 “DaBears” of Berkley High, winners of the Traverse City tourney.

Todd the teacher from Detroit

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In episode #925 you mentioned that brick-and-mortar DVD rental stores
were becoming scarce. Here you can still find Hollywood Video and
Blockbuster as well as mom-and-pop places. What’s becoming
increasingly popular are the dollar-a-day rental kiosks. They’re
everywhere — Kroger, Walgreens, McDonald’s, etc. — and often have
lines. It appears that DVD rentals will be around for a while longer.

–Charlene
Houston, TX

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Hey Buzz Crew,

I don’t know if you read about the brazilian subtitles website called legendas.tv that was taken down by our RIAA (called APCM) in accusation of copyright infrigement. The site only had portuguese subtitles (made by fans) for TV shows and movies that either will take too long to get here or won’t never show up on our screens. There wasn’t one single video file up there, but it was taken down anyway by the power of your beloved DMCA takedown notice. A supposed revenge was to take down APCM’s website, which was lame, but it never got proved that any legendas.tv admin was involved with that attack. You can read more about it here: http://torrentfreak.com/hackers-hit-anti-pirates-to-avenge-sub-site-takedown-090205/.

Anyway, long story short, another fansub site called InSubs started a campaign to show to the APCM (and hopefully some of those bone-heads at RIAA) that people who download subtitles and watch the TV shows and movies are actually avid consumers, buying their DVD’s and blu-ray discs. It’s called We Want Culture (Queremos Cultura in portuguese) and the group basically asks for people to send them photos of their original DVD collections so they can post it to their page on flickr. By the time I’m writing this email, there’s more than 500 photos so far: http://www.flickr.com/photos/insubs/ and I didn’t even sent mine yet (25 Movies and the box of the 1st season of heroes).

So although APCM says the fansubbing hurts their business, there’s at least half a thousand proofs that it doesn’t. And hopefully that number will just increase.

Love the show, keep it up!

Rafa

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G’day Buzz Crew,

David from Sydney Australia here. Just thought I’d let know some interesting local news about how our local commuter rail operator in Sydney (known as CityRail - http://www.cityrail.info/ which is operated by the state-government owned RailCorp - http://www.railcorp.info/ ) has requested at least four developers pull their iPhone apps of the market, citing copyright ownership of the timetable information and inaccuracies.

This is despite having given one developer previous written permission.

The NSW Premier, Mr Nathan Rees, has now been drawn into the debate on Twitter.

The story appears in the Sydney Morning Herald here:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/digital-life/mobiles–handhelds/articles/cityrail-puts-brakes-on-iphone-app/2009/03/05/1235842537210.html

and a followup story here, including the Premier’s debate on Twitter:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2009/03/06/1235842625754.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

It appears once again the commuters of Sydney are left in the dark ages thanks to empire-building by irrelevant bureaucrats at a time when government money is better directed in other directions (e.g. like running the actual trains - which they can’t seem to get right here).

Thanks - love the show.

David

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by philcrane March 9, 2009 2:51 PM PDT
I was very disappointed to hear Natali's comments regarding spending money on the Kepler space mission during these "troubled economic times". This mission was approved back in 2001 and the money spent on the mission occurred over the last 8 years - not just during the current economic slowdown (that works out at about 24 cents per person per year!). And where did that money go? Exactly where it needs to go in the current environment - into jobs, it paid for the scientists to create the mission and into raw materials to build it - the money went into the economy! What has space done for me? take a look at http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html So Natali, please don't join the Cooley anti-space camp!
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by pjdonovan March 10, 2009 9:12 AM PDT
Don't listen to space-boy above Natalie, while I vehemently disagree with universal health care (look at how Britain has denied access to cancer-preventing drugs because someone else decided the drugs were "too expensive" <and would you want yourself to choose that or someone else?>) But this idea that we will gain all these FANTASTIC BENEFITS from finding planets we could never go to in any lifetime near to our own beyond what we can gain now is hard to understand. Its called the law of diminishing marginal utility. IF the money MUST be spent, lets spend it on things we would get more benefit out of, such as subsidizing green power. Love the show

-PS, Natalie, you should really read up on inflation and the taxing effect it has on the poor, I think you would be interested
by bdegrande March 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT
There was an offhand comment that OS X couldn't run well on netbooks, which struck me as quite strange. I run it on my MSI Wind - standard netbook specs except 2MB RAM - and it runs fine. At bootup I start up Spaces, Mail, Firefox, Tweetdeck, iTunes. Dropbox, and Evernote, and have no problem running additional apps. I suppose if you want to do video editing, the Atom and slow graphics chip won't be up to it, but most normal applications will run fine. As Snow Leopard is supposed to be both smaller and faster, things should only improve in the future even on existing hardware. LIkewise Windows 7 will be a significant improvement on Vista for netbook users.
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by WDFleming March 9, 2009 5:07 PM PDT
Hey Buzz Crew,

Love the show!

Regarding BOL 926 and the discussion of LPs versus CD and MP3 audio quality, it's not so much that MP3s are worse quality but that when music is encoded at a low bit rate and played over cheaply made small speakers or headphones, it's no wonder many regard MP3s as inferior sounding. Additionally, most popular music of the last 10 years has been produced to maximize perceived loudness for radio play so as to catch the listener's attention. Unfortunately, this production style results in a overly compressed sound that negates any dynamic range and makes it fatiguing to the ear (like staring at a really low quality monitor strains your eyes ). The reason LPs sound "better" is because many like the saturation ("warm" sound) of analog audio. I grew up with it too but I'll never give up my CDs...

Anyway, pardon my nerdy and long-winded rant but please consult this link...it's a definitve article as to why modern production techniques have compromised the quality and enjoyableness of current music

http://www.prorec.com/Articles/tabid/109/EntryId/247/Over-the-Limit.aspx

Btw, Rafe be nice to Natali! :)

Best regards,
Bill Fleming
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by Petrifiedwood March 9, 2009 5:26 PM PDT
Um, Where's Molly? Today was Monday, right?
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by March 9, 2009 9:34 PM PDT
It's hard for me to find the feasibility in audio watermarking. Aside from the theaters having to keep detailed accounts of their patrons, the watermark would have to be specific to each theater and viewing room (if there's multiple viewings per theater). Plus, wouldn't the speaker layout of each viewing room be needed for an effective triangulation?

Furthermore, as I understand, most movies pirated through this mean, use an inside man for a direct line dub of the audio feed; essentially by-passing the watermark anyway.
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by half_n_half17 March 9, 2009 11:13 PM PDT
Hi Buzz crew!

After listening to the discussion of CD's and LP's in episode 926 I now feel the need to speak up and represent the 20-somethings-who-care-about-sound-quality-in-the-music-they-listen-to-crowd! It's incredibly unfortunate to see a study done which basically confirms my worst fears - that the people who are often on the cutting edge of music (by age group at least) LIKE the sound of MP3's. I've often made comparisons of audiophiles to wine-lovers and to hear that my cohort prefers 2-buck-chuck to something with even a little more complexity is just plan depressing, especially given that it doesn't have to be this way. High quality audio play back doesn't have to be expensive, it just takes going to a store other than Bestbuy for advice. See Steve Gutenberg's blog right here on Cnet to see great sounding equipment that is often designed and manufactured right here in the US. Also, the next-gen formats that combine quality with portability eluded to in the show ALREADY EXIST! You can buy and download FLAC 96/24 files from stores like HDtracks, but the problem lies with the music catalog.
How much would it really cost Apple or Napster to do away with lossy files and/or up the file bitrate? *sigh*

-Matt
East Bay, CA
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by bartvanriel March 10, 2009 2:36 AM PDT
Hi Buzz Crew,

Quick history update from The Netherlands.
Wanna know where the CD codename "Pinkeltje" comes from? As you are probably aware, the CD tech was developed by Philips Electronics, a Dutch company. "Pinkeltje" is the name of a children's book character, a dwarf (all complete with pointy hat and beard, check out a picture at http://jeugdsentimenten.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2003/12/pinkeltje.jpg).

Trivia info: the size of the hole in a cd was modeled after the old Dutch dime coin (ancient history since it's all Euros now).

Love the show!

Grtz,
Bart,
The Netherlands.
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by Sincere_23 March 10, 2009 7:54 AM PDT
Hi Tom and Jason,

I'm writing this as a final sign-off from BOL. After about 500 episodes, I'm unsubscribing to your daily show. The new group dynamic just isn't working out in my opinion. Where once we could enjoy educated debates and the always hilarious Molly rants, now I'm left cringing at the very sound of Natali's voice. Her contributions to the show are extremely weak and literally shut down topics for no reason (ex: in this show, the telescope discussion).

The guest hosts haven't helped either. Brian Tong shows up and you can expect nothing interesting except his adolescent brain working in overdrive to try and make a pass at Natali. Even Brian Cooley shows up and gets up in Tom's face about every topic.

Topics are no longer discussed. Uninformed opinions have replaced educated debates. Natali's integration to the team is a failure.

I'm out.
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by garce1 March 10, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
although i also agree, i'll still listen because sometimes the guest hosts are good. inside cnet labs is a much better podcast also. not sure shy molly left this one, natalie is better in the videos i suppose, although i usually skip hers.
by alligator768 March 10, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
If the Sydney rail system is government owned/operated, then aren't all published materials public domain anyway? Wouldn't that be like the U.S. government claiming copyright on the inauguration schedule?
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by splicedbyitalians March 10, 2009 7:46 PM PDT
The question of the day is where was Molly? It felt to me as though something happened, and it affected everyone's energy on the show negatively. Hopefully, that wasn't what happened, but if it didn't, what was it?
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by LPL1700 March 11, 2009 3:58 PM PDT
Hey BOL - as for copyrighted maps and digital map data it is not unusual for this data to be copyrighted. Most countries restrict access to data through copyrighting and other measures. The USA is one of very few countries that has not followed this trend and through the efforts of the Department of the Interior data continues to freely flow out to the public. This trend continues in the USA due to the efforts of geospatial data visionaries in Federal, State, and Local organizations that agree data should be made available to the public. Thanks - love the show!
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